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I?m new here and want to say hello and introduce myself properly and share a few good ones with you. I have done many things including Massages, Fetishes, Role-play, Fantasy, Submission and Domination.. As of now I am currently not working. After years of working in the adult field with you and having had the pleasure of meeting all kinds of different faces from all sorts of places near and far, I?ve concluded that it is a small world after all... For example I?m sure every Client and SP (massage girl, escort..) have had their own stories to tell, but, I have a few that I?d like to share that top the Bizarre list BUT? If you have some to add to the Bizarre list, I?d love to hear them. I?m positive the majority of Sp?s have had similar experiences? Such as When you are out shopping in the grocery store and in the same aisle is a ?Regular?, Wife and Kids in toe BUT..Not realizing this until you make eye contact from five feet away.. Of course I smile and continue shopping while I notice the terrorized look in the Clients eyes, the color from his face is drained and his white knuckles clenching the cart in a death grip seconds away from what seems like a total nervous system overload. In a normal head-on head on collision the Client and his ?on the side release? would just walk on and you can hear the sigh of relief from the next ailse over BUT?Not me it?s days like this that I learn more than I want to and my side career has just been life interrupting. My seemingly normal collision went sour when.; I probably wouldn?t have even noticed ?Bob? if his 2 kids didn?t notice me first running down the aisle shouting at the top of their precious lungs my ?Real? name clinging to me with their oh-so-familiar bi-weekly hugs. I recognized his wife first and me having bad eyes, only recognized her by her jacket and the kids. so I kept in the same aisle..Of course since for the last year and a half she has been my Play group Mommy buddy and while the kids play on we gab on about everything. Once I walked over and got within five feet, I knew then what I had just stepped into. That?s when I was introduced to ?Shawn? , the hubby I?ve heard so much about. His terror filled eyes were slightly different from the normal ?Client passing?s? Could it have been because as I wrapped my arms around his babies knowing that I had just wrapped my hands around him just a few hours ago or that I spend 5 hours a week with his wife or was it the icing on the cake when I was introduced as the ?One I?ve been telling you about? and then I was invited for a BBQ??? You?d figure that I would have lost a client. Nope! I started doing happy ending massages as a way to pay for my higher education (little did I know that this world is an education in itself). I thought that it would be a much smaller audience than my first thoughts of stripping BUT..at the end of the day I think I would have been accepted more as a stripper than a miss-understood massage girl. It didn?t take long before I realized that the majority of men know what goes on and where (Like a Sexdar).. Is it just me or do other girls find that when you end up grabbing a cab to work that within a few hours that cab driver shows up at your work and wants everything for sixty bucks? The only major problem I?ve had were 95% cab drivers, and since most places don t let you reject a Client?I?ve learned a heck of a lot more than massages that?s for sure.. Like how to handle these guys, how to run the business without the owner around, Self-restraint and not strangling my co-workers or ?bosses? BUT..Mostly Customer Service and how to deal with a variety of different people and all sorts of situations Such As.. Knowing how to act at the reception for my then Fiancee Father?s funeral at his Uncle and Aunts house. It was a lovely reception at his Uncle and Aunts beautiful home. I kept to myself or gagged with the ?Aunties?. It wasn?t until I was introduced to my future Uncle-In-Law that the reception was promptly ended. My future Uncle-In-Law was also a client, the cheap old cotton-top kind that wants to get their eighty bucks worth any way they can. I really hoped he didn?t recognize me so I lured the dog over and began petting it BUT..That?s when I heard his gasp and noticed the common look of terror in his eyes..He thanked us for coming and showed us to the door ASAP, and even walked us to the end of the driveway to show us where we parked. BUT..Not before his wife invited us to a dinner date and an open invite to drop in anytime..I raised my rates for my future Uncle-In-Law after that. YUP He came back! Like I said, I?m sure everyone has had their own run-ins..Any like mine? Or how about the time I temporarily married a Client for a whole hour? BUT..That?s one for another time. It?s a small world after all..It?s a small world after all It?s a small small world Thanks JuliasUndies

How would many of you know, unless you were discussing it in private. There are many MAs out there, so it was just a general comment, perhaps the problem was the response not the original post.

I was going to delete this as it's a lot of "laundy" being aired out but on second thought I think it should stay for TWO reasons. 1) People have taken the time to reply 2) This Carlos guy is showing everyone some true colors and even though no one is blacklisting him... he is doing a great job at that himself. The comment "we all say bad thing sometime chould I be black listed for loosing my patience one time." the answer is YES you should. If you are disrespectful (EVEN ONE TIME) to any of the ladies YOU should be BLACKLISTED!!! That should NOT BE TOLERATED... EVER... PERIOD!

That's exactly it. I'm meeting a stranger in my apartment by myself, and I need to feel 100% comfortable. If something just doesn't feel right to me or rubs me the wrong way, I don't go ahead with the appointment. My comfort and safety is the most important thing to me and sometimes, unfortunately, that involves turning people down for appointments.

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In the next couple of days I will ask Mod to terminated my mebership. It all started a couple weeks ago, when I PM a well known MP here in Ottawa to try to arrange a appointment. She email me with a questionnary to find out more about the person that I was. One of the question was what was my expectation from her. My answer was that I had no specific expectation and that I know that it was not a full sevice. Another question was what is my previous experience with a MP. So I told her that I had seen that MP are in Gatineau and I detail the sevices that was offered to me. I told her that I like dfk and if she was comfortable with that that woulb be good. But it was just to let her know that it was a turn on for me. So one day went by and no response from her. So I send her another email saying that maybe I have provided to mutch information about my previous encounter. I then told her that I was a good men and that it was her lost and also that there was other MPs out there. Her response was and I quote" I was actually very much looking forward to meeting you. I try to respond to all emails within 24-48 hours, but I am a very busy person as I also have a "" Sorry you came to this conclusion". I send her another email and I apologize for jumping to the gun that fast. I ask her if I could see her, she said that she decided not to see me because I was not a patient person. That was the end of that storey. Last week I made another appointment with a beautifull MP I talk to her on the phone. The appointment was for today 90 minutes of massage with that wonderful and beautiful lady. Yesterday she send me a PM that she was sorry and she had to cancell because she was sick. Humm funny she did not ask if I would like to pick another day. I said to myself that I would reschedule next week. You always have to have a plan B. Yesterday I call another MP I had the time and the cash was there so why not. I call that lady with my cell book for this mornig. I call her at 9:am to confirm for 10:00 she ask me if 10:30 was ok. 10:30 it is, on my way to her incall I get a text saying that she just got into a small accident and that she would be running late. She said that it would not be long . That was at 10:15 this morning . Is that all bad luck or I was I put on some sort of black list. All of these 3 ladys have my name and my cell phone. This all my friends is the reason that I will be leaving CERB before my phone number is on the net. It was a pleasure to exchange with a lot of you. 3 years not to many post but hey if you have no good to say dont say it . Carlos

His original post states "a well known MP here in Ottawa to try to arrange a appointment. She email me with a questionnary to find out more about the person that I was" most people here in Ottawa know who what is without even saying a name. Really very little difference between him posting her name and this. You may have not known but it was a very easy guess (even for me and I live in Barrie 500km from Ottawa but just by reading the site and comments people make it's very easy to see who he is referring too. He choose to air his frustrations out on cerb and let everyone know who he was talking about Trying to save face by not actually saying her name but saying enough that almost everyone knows exactly who he is talking about... Read his comment carefully... Read the post title "After 3 years I am leaving" this was a F.U. letter calling a lady out on cerb (Very much against the rules). The lady choose to reply so the post stays (If she had have flagged it and asked me to remove it I would have). I am going to now close it so I don't have to deal with anymore B.S. over this but I will leave the post so the other ladies can see what Carlos felt the need to do... I think this guy should be blacklisted but that is not up to me.

Thank u Angela. She has lost one possible regular client, I believe. I have been out of the blue and am contacting a better (best, IMHO) lady here. :boobeyes::grin: I feel very warm here in this community with a lot of mental support, encouragement and good advices. Thank u all! May all u happy and well! Jay

Just to play devil's advocate, don't you think it's a bit hypocritical to give a murderer the death penalty (thus murdering yourself)? Using death penalty makes us no better than the criminals we want to get rid of. Don't get me wrong, he deserves to be punished to the fullest extent. And after reading this article yesterday about a woman who was raped at knifepoint and her rapist acquitted (despite the fact that she had taped evidence of him admitting he raped her and that it was completely random), there are times when I think vigilante justice might just be the way. But then again, to steal a phrase from one of my favourite graphic novels: who watches the watchmen?

I just want to make it perfectly clear that I never blacklisted you and never discussed you personally with any SP at any time. I have not shared your personal information with anyone and don't intend to. I value discretion as much as you do and only share personal information when I think an SP could be in danger.

Speaking from experience in regards to being married, it is very easy to get comfortable in a rleationship/marriage and things become mundance and routine. That spark is gone. Where do you turn? What do you do? marriage counselling may help but if you have no intention of leaving your spouse and/or it's too difficult because you're in too deep or have too much to lose financially, hobbying seems like the perfect escape where you can have the best of both worlds. It's a new, exciting experience in your life where there is a spark in your life again. Who wouldn't want some attention from a sexy female willing to cater to your sexual needs all within certain boundaries of course. I also think imo that a physical affair for an hour two is much less painful than an emotional affair. Having been in that position in the past, an emotional affair is much more hurtful to a woman than a physical one. Like others here, I do not equate sex with love. Look at the business that I'm in. LOL. I really don't think we as human beings are conditioned to be monogamous. However, as someone who doesn't associate the physical with the emotional, I would rather an SO of mine to see an escort than see him go and have a love affair. And I think that's why many men hobby. There is no emotional attachment. To me it is a physical release and while the client may fancy the SP and enjoy her company, 90% of the time it does not reach a more intimate level, just a business interaction. With regards to my opinions about clients being married, I am certainly not one to judge. I sell companionship for a living so that would make me a hypocrite. But I will say this and I find this hard to fathom and that is that many clients have asked me if I've had a boyfriend or husband and the million dollar question they ask is "Does he know and is he okay with it?" First of all, it's no one's business and second of all, I find it very hpocritical that a client would think that considering that their significant other doesn't know their activities but if an service provider's spouse or boyfriend knows what is going on and is okay with her doing her job, suddenly it's a big no no. Sadly clients do judge but do not bother to think of their own activities which have been kept from their spouse. Admittedly, that is when the wheels in my head start to turn and that's when I begin to think about a client's relationship. Then I realize I have to let those thoughts go because I do not know them. I'm sure they are curious about the lives of SPs as well. Personally I do not care to know about whether or not a client is married as I do not wish to discuss my own personal situation because it's no one's business. Period. I sell a fantasy and I think judging a client or vice versa about their relationship status would inevitably destroy that fantasy. This isn't to say the topic of spouses hasn't been brought us. Part of my job is to listen and I have listened many times and if this is part of the process of the client being able to let go, so be it. That is what I am there for - Companionship whether it is a half hour, an hour or five hours. I personally think people should do what they feel is right for them. We don't know everyone here or know them enough to judge them on a personal level. Each and every situation and why a man hobby's is different on a case by case basis. We are here for a good time, not a long time. Let's enjoy it while it lasts.

I really believe men (and women) are not monogamous. The subject of "Variety" is always well received by practicing males. If a female declares that she wants variety, she will be considered a nymphomaniac, More or less we agree that times from Christopher Columbus have changed....but the reality is different. In our developed societies the stigma of variety is a double sword and love does not have to do anything with it. Love is care, and many more other qualities, but probably hobbying is the escape from routine, boredom and the physiological need of man to "procreate", Women are maternal and most of my clients certify that when they say to me that their wives do not want sex...and if they are convinced to engage in it, they are boring and unappealing...in other words the male sex drive is not interested.... The question of "infidelity" has to be raised in a different way: What is fidelity? is it castrating the male? castrating the female? Is fidelity one of the vows couples swear to each other? Is accepted that males as well as females are both providers in financial needs...it is also well accepted that men have a natural tendency to promiscuity and females should belong only to their men and raise their children at home.... I am very glad I have met many females who are different and many males who stand apart from the crowds, but in general and going back to "infidelity" the question should be What is fidelity?? My little opinion! Loralee:bowdown:

In a perfect world, the analogy is just that, perfect. It's like eating at a restaurant instead of eating at home. The problem is that we as a society are conditioned to equate sex with a loving relationship. That is especially true if one or both parties are otherwise encumbered with a significant other. Jim.... it's not just women, it's men as well. Think of it. Your view is based on a perception that your wife does not wish the same things that you want sexually. Now consider something else. Would you not feel betrayed, hurt, angry or smitten if your wife was seeing another man, just for sex? If the answer is yes, then you too, link sex with love. I have been on the other side, my ex cheated on me. The relationship and ultimately the sex she had with another man cut me like a thousand knives. I was the good husband. I made the efforts, held a good job, did my share around the house... virtually everything I did, I did for the sake of our relationship, our family. What hurt the most was that the relationships she had outside of the marriage denied me the intimate contact that I craved. She was giving her "physical love" to someone else... and although I had opportunity to engage in extramarital activity, I could not bring myself to do it. It is a tough road to tread. I don't engage in the hobby when I am in a relationship because I can't justify it to myself. It certainly is not a condemnation of anyone who can; I just can't do unto someone else what has been done to me, and I know that if I was in a relationship it would be a guilt that would ultimately be fatal to that same relationship. I understand that the SP/client relationship is altogether different than a boyfriend/girlfriend, husband/wife, lover/lover thing... but the penis and the heart are two separate things with two separate agendas. All that being said, the place that I find myself now in life allows me to indulge in the hobby with only the pause for financial justification and allowance. I am not currently looking for an SO; the need for that companionship can be met by friends, family and my service provider. Just my two cents...

Boy, tough one to answer, but here goes..... Hobbying is one of the most selfish things I have ever done......period... However, I have come to rationalize it, by convincing myself that I HAVE EARNED the right to spoil myself from time to time...... Why you ask ? To me it's simple, I have provided a stable home over the years, provided all the emotional support that was needed, the material wealth that was desired all this and worked MY ASS off without complaining or asking for a rest or demanding more than my fair share. I have ALWAYS been there when needed, my support has always been unflinching for my family.... The time I spend with an SP is 'ME TIME', it is my time to spoil myself, to relax and be with someone who DOES NOT JUDGE ME, nor expect anything in return other than for me to be myself, and of course the donation that is required...... No drama, no demands, no expectations, just a good time to be had by both people, and a chance to steal away with some 'us time'......an oasis away from the day to day norm.... So, when I hobby, it is ME TIME..... Is it selfish, damn straight ! Have I earned it.....I believe I have ...well, in my mind anyway...... That is how I rationalize my hobby.......I don't seek assurance that I am right, because I have convinced my self that it is just fine.....and I am enjoying myself.....:pimp: SNK

I have noticed a recent comment or two referring to hobbying as paying for sex. I beg to differ and this is my personal view. To me hobbying is NOT paying for sex and I do not get upset by it at all and these are my reasons: I invite a lady to my home as a guest(or she invites us to hers for those who do incalls) and I pay for lady's time and companionship only. By all means she is a guest in my house (or we are a guests in hers, if incalls) and is treated like one (and many like myself do their best to ensure they feel like guests). What happens after is between two consenting adults. They do not have to do what they wish not to. And they can leave if they wish too. In many cases when I invite nude dancers there is no FS. In most cases the visiting lady has equally good time (I can tell by her wet ......and hot body and flushed face lol) and thank us for the great time she has had. It is a date (RendezVous) not pay for sex. The only difference is that I use cerb (or internet) to find my date instead of going to a dance bar or night club and I donate for her time and kindness with material value in an envelop rather than dinner or jewelry or ring, etc. The reason for hobbying in my case is the "Variety" factor. I love variety. It is possible to do this in certain cities like Montreal (where I lived for 6 years before moving to Ottawa) by going to a night club or dance bar or at the university social events and every Saturday night (with a good chance) to come out with a different lady. I used to do this myself for 6 years (besides as student I didn"t have money to hobby). This is not possible in a relatively small city like Ottawa. Therefore if I want to do what I enjoy most (playing the "variety" game), then I have to hobby (or go back to Montreal where likely I won't have a job). I consider visiting ladies as guests and I hope that they are equally feel like being a guest and having a real good time. How many of you would agree that we should enjoy our time and be happy and how many would disagree that in fact hobbying is indeed paying for sex or we should be upset about it? Am I too optimistic living in a fictitious imaginary world of my own, or at least some of you would share my view?. Views from lady providers are specially welcomed. I do hope that this post does not offend anyone, otherwise I would have to request the mod for its removal. PS - This post is not in any way with reference to any individual or individuals and only expresses my personal views on hobbying.

For me I look for more than just the sex, and i go to great lengths to ensure that is my experience.... This hobby is DEFINITELY one that rewards you in spades AS LONG AS YOU AERE WILLING TO GIVE AS MUCH AS YOU EXPECT TO RECEIVE........ I have only seen 2 ladies, for a combined total of just under 10 visits. Each and every time it has been a long appointment, one that always includes a nice dinner date, which gives us both ample time to relax, and enjoy each other's company. This way by the time we finally retreat to the room, we are both comfortable with one another, are completely relaxed......makes for a wonderful evening. By no means am I an expert, but for me that's my magic formula and what makes it a memorable experience each and every time...........going well beyond just the sex... While in the end it is a business transaction, what makes this more than simply a transaction for sex, is how we spend the time together, the respect we show for each other, and the GENUINE CARING that develops over time, for each other..... Don't believe me ? Read the reviews, and see how many people repeat, and just how much better each session seems to get...... When you ensure that BOTH of your needs have been met.....it is a lot more than just sex......it's a friendship with some delicious benefits....