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I am sure this has been discussed before but indulge me. The number one reason I ask for a number is mutual trust. If I am going to disclose my location to you, I need to feel safe. The only recourse I have is you giving me your number. If you trust me enough with your number, then I know I can trust you with my address. I have never and would never abuse this piece of information in any way, shape or form. We have a need for discretion as much as you. Second reason is for cancellation purposes. Just like you wonderful gents, life can sometimes throw a wrench into our plans. Yesterday, I was forced into being a no show. I have met this person before and he booked well in advanced via email. I had an incident that kept me away from my incall location as well as away from the internet and therefore I had absolutely no way to contact him to cancel or postpone. He called me several times from a payphone but at the time I was unable to answer the phone. If I had his number, I could have saved him the trouble of driving all the way over! Later in the day, I emailed him to apologize, explain, and mention why it would have been a good idea for him to give me his number. No response so I am going to assume that he is pissed off that shit happens to us too. The last couple of days I have been bogged down with a few repairs and of course scheduling goes out the window in these cases. A very nice gent that I see on occasion booked some time with me. I had his number and was able to call and reschedule. There is the trust! He knows that I would never call or text him out of the blue. The number is there for an emergency not to use to solicit. Ladies...I would love to hear more reasons (if any) for why a number is so important.

Maybe I'm a bit cranky at the end of a long week, but I have to say that I am weary of hearing the assumption that paid companions are likely to stalk, harass or blackmail clients if we have any of their personal information, even if it's just a cell number. I think this is a way that some men project and deflect guilt connected with their decision to seek out paid companionship. It's not simply unreasonable, it's narcissistic. As I always say: no matter who you are or who you think you are, no matter what you do or who you know or love, the person who is taking the most risks is always the paid companion. Always. I think I spend too much time reassuring potential clients that I'm balanced, safe, sane, warm, genuinely human and real--in other words, that they can trust me. Just yesterday someone wrote to me saying that he didn't want to give me his number in case it was part of some kind of elaborate set-up. He told me outright that he wanted me to calm his mind because he was worried I might rob him or give him some terrible disease. I am stymied by such men's lack of insight and empathy. He's worried I might rob him? Well, gosh. He's making arrangements to be in my home, in my bed, in my body. I will lavish time, care and attention on him. I will do my best to make him feel so wonderful that he'll want to come back and see me again. I have to try not to worry that he'll tell my landlord or the neighbours what I'm doing. I have to try not to worry that he'll show up sometime without an invitation. I have to try not to worry that he might hurt me or refuse to leave when it's time. I also have to try not to worry that he might rob me. And I have to forget that, if something unexpected happens or there's an emergency--a fire breaks out or maybe he has a heart attack--he will be portrayed as a decent man in an unfortunate situation while I will just be a hooker. Every man will say that he's not like the kinds of men I've just described. Just about all the time, that's true. Nearly every one of them are just doing their best to get through their lives. They don't want to hurt anyone or cause trouble. They're a lot like us companions. We're all just doing what we do, trying to keep on keeping on. Relax. Stop the fear-mongering and suspicion. Stop assuming that the whore with the heart of gold is a rarity. We're here by the dozen. Calm down. Take a deep breath. We're all on the same side, and we're in this together. Give your companion your cell number.

I agree with you Meg. There needs to be some trust both ways for sure so having each others cell numbers is a necessity. Shit happens and cancellations are inevitable sometimes. Very easy to shoot a quick text or call and nobody is sitting waiting or pissed off. My two cents...

Well, not all ladies are treated badly. There are some very good spas in Ottawa that offer a high level of service and treat the ladies well. Why wouldn't they go independent? Well, lots of reasons: -It actually takes skills and hard work to open up your own business. Not everyone has the skills to be able to manage a business. -Some are living paycheck-to-paycheck and can't afford to invest in a business. My initial start-up was about $3000 for first/last rent + signing a year lease ($12,000) about $500 for towels, $500 for other supplies like candles, music player, a couple tables, etc. -Some may find themselves in a shitty financial situation and do massage/stripping short-term to get back on their feet. It makes no sense to invest in a business when you're in it for the short-term. -Some are students and single mothers and simply don't have the time to run a business. Running a massage business is a huge time commitment. I personally love being independent because I love managing a business, but there are a lot of women who enjoy doing massage but don't like the business aspect. Spas are perfect for them!

I completely agree, a valid cell number is part of a normal request by almost every lady. If you have an issue with giving out your number, then don't book. A well respected companion will always hold any information in the highest regard of discretion.

I have been dealing with a situation for quite a while and now i am having the 2 same situation in a different regions.. I am curious of your opinions...thoughs... If i feel that someone is not compatible to me...someone that has done something that i considere a no no...I tell them that i do not wish to see them...Why is it so hard for some to understand that and respect my decision?The first situation has been in manitoba....It is getting ridiculous to the point of changing email,name,phone number and not having static IP and having mutiple handles.. The other situation has been calling every week mutiple time a week at any time to solicitate that i visit his city...Now changing emails and name... a third situation the person nearly harass me on 5 different names and emails to get banned from here not wanting to fit my requirements but insist on meeting I have notice in past tread that some of you(gents) have comment that if a girl refuse to see you..*** this you would still try to see her and sneak in by changing name...etc... Does it mean to some of you that we aren't allow to choose who we see..That if we feel that someone have a stalkish personality or disrespectful,that is simply not compatible and the app will be miserable that we have no choice to not see you?Yes i can understand that maybe i said maybe i could have a wrong impression of the person but why insisting in a sneaky way? I am so confuse as for me if someone clearly stated to me not wanting to be in my compagny i cannot even imagine how a session could be great...Maybe i am not soly bussiness...But seeing the behavior described before really discusted me and make me despite those people..hate them without even knowing them.... It does not want me to give you the time of you life ..Far from it to be polite I am currently in a dilemma...Getting my booking requirements more stick for those 2 regions and penalize many nice gents... Or.......... You inputs would be appreciate VJ

Some of you may or may not be familiar with Big Al. He is a 25 yr old young man, afflicted with severe cerebral palsy. He emailed me a couple of years ago, and I've been to see him twice so far, with a spring or summer trip planned. Although is he wheel-chair bound and dependent upon others for all the necessities, he remains positive and upbeat. As he has said, there is not much joy in his life. His days are spent strictly indoors, and he does not even have 24 hour care, like he so desperately needs. Having an aide there 24 hours would greatly improve the quality of Al's life. He and his Mom recently came to Winnipeg to plead his case to the Health Board. We've been waiting with bated breath for their decision, and in the interim, Big Al got himself his first job! He works for a Web Design firm in their marketing department. Isn't it wonderful that technology has come so far that people like AL, in remote locations, and with little or no mobility, can use their intelligence and education from the comfort of their chairs, online? In any case, please offer your support and congratulations to our fellow cerbite, the incomparable...Big Al! Way to go my sweetest friend! :grin:

I also saw it around that time mentioned on another site. The idea is to snag guys who are googling escort, massage, sexy, etc, onto the site as tho it is an legit escort site. Then they do an auto search replace to edit the ads. Pretty = ugly; sexy becomes something rude; incall becomes sh*thole; and more. The link that I saw originally was very specific and to the point. It basically said "why pay for escorts when you can hook up for free", and click the link takes you to a dating site. It tries to take all the escort ads and make the ladies look like trashy, skanky, std ridden scare tactic methods, of course.

I'm thinking of changing my number, it might be well out there now:icon_surprised:... lol I have no issues but only to call or in fact if the lady allows texting its all good, the ladies are all very professional,never have had a unsuspecting phone call inbound or a text message.:bigclap: Discretion level that the ladies delivery before and after the date is fantastic, keep up the great work ladies!:ThankYou:

Guys if you are worried that our wonderful ladies are going to call at the wrong moment " THEN LEAVE YOUR PHONE ON VIBRATE". I fully respect and encourage the ladies request, I fact I don't even mind giving my name, I know most of the ladies check with a friend about visitors just to be safe. I encourage it. We have wonderful ladies here and we would be hurt and feel a huge lost of a good friend if our favorite ladies were to be seriously hurt or worst because they allowed a crazy deranged person into their location. LADIES you are all wonderful. Please be careful and stand for your rights and rules.

So I asked one of the asian website owners (Who promotes the bait and switch agencies) as to why they did this and to my surprise I finally got a reply as he agrees it is bad but he has no control over it. (See his reply below as it is interesting). I ask these guys this ALL THE TIME and usually they just ignore me or tell me off ... "all the girls are "public", which means they dont work for any specific agency. they work for all the agencies." WTF?? No wonder I never get a reply... To me this sounds like one single "organization" imports all the women and move them around from place to place for a few months and trade them in for new ones?? Sure sounds like one very large operation!! Guess any of you who like asian women are just use to the bait and switch thing. Why even bother putting up photos, bio's and giving them names... what is the point? It makes EVERYONE look bad! I feel very bad for the asian women who use real photos, have ethics and integrity. It's interesting to get a reply like this but it looks like it's a bigger problem then I thought. Organizations like this will be used as references and made examples out of in the upcoming legal issues!! This could effect the whole industry as like streetwalkers they will group this (and it will be seen as sex slavery) all in one large category that includes everyone here!! Let it be stated publicly that this is a CULTURAL ASIAN THING and has NOTHING to do with the Independent CANADIAN ladies (and non-asian agencies). Most of the ladies (especially as seen here on cerb) have ETHICS and would NOT bait and switch. Places like CL and apparently 99% of all AsIAN ads are BS! They are giving our entire industry a BAD REP! This part of the SEX TRADE here in CANADA is imported from ASIAN culture and DOES NOT represent how things are done in this BUSINESS here in Canada. These agencies are obviously NOT operating like the rest of the the sex work trade here in Canada.

yogibear is spot on. Sure they can get your IP address, and from that your city, internet provider. But to get any personal information (name, address) they would need the cooperation of your ISP and there is no way someone could call up Rogers (or whatever) and say: "Hey, I'm really pissed off at this stupid whore from ISP 123.456.789, so can you please give me her real name and address?" There would be HUGE liability for that. So yeah they might email you and threaten "I know you live in Ottawa and you use Rogers as an ISP" but that's as far and it'll go. I seriously doubt this individual would bother reporting you, and if they did, I can't imagine the authorities taking it seriously. On another note, while it's extremely scary to be reported as a sex worker to CAS, there is nothing they can do. It's not illegal to be a sex worker, it's a moral judgment. They can't take away your kids for being an escort anymore than they can take away your kids "Because you don't go to church every Sunday like a good person." For CAS to intervene, there needs to be REAL child endangerment or abuse, and one person imposing their morals on you doesn't count.