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Well, to be blunt, for 'pefect" safety, don't do it at all. At this point, your paranoia whether outcall, incall or hotel room rental is destroying any chance at all of relaxing enough to have a good time. This is not something you should be doing. If however, you can stop the scare tactics (on yourself) and actually listen to reality, (not your fanciful imaginations based on American television) then even a tiny bit of common sense will tell you that the chance that LE is sitting around, wiretapping or email inspecting your chosen sps interactions with potential clients enough to narrow down the exact day and time that you plan to show up, then while watching from outside her location (assuming that they have also been monitoring all of your conversations (whether by phone or online) to the point where she has provided her complete address, so they know where to go, after 10 minutes or so of you being welcomed by your chosen sp, they bust down the door of the lobby, and using that same door busting device, then break down her apartment door, and a half dozen officers armed to the teeth, plus one dog for effect, burst into that apartment while you are just starting to relax and start shouting and breaking things, while you scramble into your clothes, hit the ground arms over your head and......... OK, so the other thing that is wrong with that scenario is that not ever not once has such an event ever been mentioned, reported or even reported in the news....for a independent sp working privately from a discrete incall location, on her own. And to answer one question, choose someone in an apartment not a house.

I fail to understand why providing a cell number is such an issue. Granted no one would provide a number during their initial message but as the conversation progressed, and a date is agreed upon of course providing a phone number is a legitimate request. Providing a contact number is the same as providing your description, age, length of date, etc. It is all relevant to securing a date and time with the lady of choice. I have found it goes a long way in securing a trust with your lady if you volunteer that you are willing to divulge your contact info. PRIOR to her asking for it. Actually if it were not for one lady having my cell number I would have missed a date entirely. On my way to her location I received a call from her "associate" who advised me that the lady had some difficulty with the hotel as the room was not ready for her. If it were not for her having my number I might have arrived to either (A) an empty room or (B) the previous occupants still in the room! I wonder how many of us guys would contact a lady whose only means of contact was through the PM system here on Cerb? Would YOU meet with a lady who had no phone number, email address, description or photos on her profile? I think not! Gentlemen the best way to look at situations like this is to picture yourself as the lady and then ask yourself "would I meet with someone who isn't willing to tell me anythng about themselves?" I suspect the answer will be a resounding NO!

Perhaps my comment, may be a bit uncalled for, but here goes: In my opinion the ladies you should want to meet & spend time with are here on CERB....yes, the other list had plenty of updated ads but many were individuals who posted the SAME ad consistently and.or like 5 times a day!!! Those for sure you will have difficulty finding them as those postings did not cost them anything AND they were not moderated. The legit ladies, again IMO, are not afraid to be part of a MODERATED site....If they choose not to be, well to me that says ALOT..( I am not referring to the ladies on the DND/DNR list, that is something completely different, as a lady should have the choice to ensure that details about her & her services are not discussed, however, most of these ladies on the DND/DNR list are established & on other escort advertisment sites ,which they pay$ for) Sure there may be a few good ones out there, whom only advertise once in a while, who do it only on occasion...but as someone who advertised plenty on the the list....I openly admit I would read the other ladies ads & had a very good idea of who's who on there...and from what I see now, most (NOT ALL) but most of the ladies ad's who you do not seem to see around right now are the ladies who have been on the cowboys list for some reason or another OR who do not want to take part on a moderated site. There are a bunch of ladies who were never part of this site before, and have joined since the closing of the list, AND they have been obtaining some really nice recs too...there are many, many great ladies to choose from on here, why take the risk ( especially if you have never met them) Vanessa

Well gals and gents. I think it's time for me to take a break from this hobby...or possibly to quit it altogether. "The one who got away" has suddenly and recently resurfaced into my life....the one person I've always wanted to be with and who I've always wanted a second chance with. I owe it to myself and to her to give it my all. Which means I have to focus all my attentions on her, and unfortunately that means no SP's MPs or SCs. I just want to thank all the ladies I've seen for the wonderful times we've shared. I want to thank the gents for the great advice and reco's, and I want to thank all of cerb for the enthralling and always entertaining threads of many different topics. I'll be keeping my account open....if things go south, I'll be back....with bells on! ;) To those ladies I've seen and to those I haven't had a chance to see, you're all wonderful people in your own right, and I wish you all the luck and happiness in the world. To the ladies I've prebooked with, I'll be sending you PM's shortly with a personal apology and explanation. Take care all, remember to always play safe and above all, have fun!

So we finally found the problem as to why the site was loading so slow. The stats on the main page (Top poster, newest posts, etc...) was the culprit. Apparently some bad php code was done and a friend of mine found it tonight. We were able to fix it and the site seams to be FLYING now!! Cross your fingers and hope it keeps up the speed during peek times (Monday between 3pm and 8pm is a good test!!) Enjoy the new found speed (Man it is fast on this end)

True enough, Seymour. But let's be honest. Those who are dedicated and creative enough to have a secret that that their employer, family and friends don't know about are also quite able to find a way to resolve the cell phone matter. Moreover, if a man can afford to spend $300-500 for a date with me, he can afford a $40 cell phone and a $15 pay-as-you-go time card for the thing--the price of a modest lunch for two. He can throw the phone away after the date. A few of my favourite clients gave me their real names and contact information in the second or third e-mail. It was their way of letting me know that they were not wasting my time, that they really did want to see me, and that I would be safe with them. It was also an expression of trust in me and my discretion--a very fine way to begin a relationship. Gentlemen visiting from out of town sometimes give me their hotel room number (and their real name goes along with it) in lieu of a cell number. Not only can I call the hotel to verify that they are registered, but they have voice mail for the room, so I can leave a message if I need to.

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No one here can tell you what to do - only you can decide what you are going to do. With everything there is risk and you are the best authority on your risk tolerance. Incall or outcall aside, if the above fear is on your mind, you likely will not enjoy your experience if/when you decide to proceed with it. When you have conquered your fear, you will benefit from a much better experience. Good luck.

I agree with Pete, you asked a question and the response was pretty much unanimous, stick with Escorts Canada and CERB. CL and other venues like it are really more trouble than they are worth... the same variety and range of prices and services exist here and on EC and the opportunity to interact with the providers is a huge bonus. On the surface the unmoderated free sites may appear to have more quantity but as Vanessa so aptly put it , mostly due to over posting. Those sites are more quantity over quality. Spend a little more time here and you'll soon discover the variety and options you are seeking.

I think any suggestion that everything can be found on cerb can be answered with the same type of retort when asking a SP why they advertise on those other sites or, formerly, craigslist. There are many girls on cerb that have used CL in the past and are starting to frequent the alternatives as well. Also, to assume that every person that is not on cerb advertising elsewhere is a reason to fear for level of service or personal safety, is as short sighted as someone dismissing all SP's as being drug addicts, mentally ill, etc. There is no be-all encompassing solution to what everybody is looking for

hey all :) i talked with the police a few times since i got them 5 month ago. and the police see me walk my dog all the time. They told me the law is in court again so they cant give any fine and cant take any dog. (just if they bite somebody like any kind of dog) and it can take an other couple of years before they keep the law or remove it. and they think its gonna be remove. :) so no worry about it. 20 people pm me about the law that i know for sure but i walk my dog like 4 times a day and see at least police 3 time a day on bank street. and they pet my dog lol. anyway... thx :)

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Hi Karine I am the owner of two large German Shepherds. older mature dogs, but still needing a lot of attention, so I can understand your problem. As a suggestion, Kijiji Ottawa has a good section for those that want to sell/place dogs. You can post pictures and have interested parties respond to an email address so you will not be bothered with nuisance phone calls. Its very easy to post and no charge at all unless you want to place a "headline ad". I have had good results with Kijiji, hope this suggestion might help. Rodehard

Big Al you serve as inspiration to us all. You have shown that through determination and a positive attitude anything is possible. Thanks for reminding us all about such a powerful lesson. Keep up the great work my friend. Posted via Mobile Device

errr - wtf?? It sounds like a foreign wanna-be pimp has somehow taken an interest in exploiting your ads. Stringing together a bunch of words (all spelled correctly) does not a sentence make (talk with my pal Yoda you must). Hacked this site has been. Remember the Chinese poster trying to sell shoes....or something?