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There have beena few threads lately about words; the controversey over lyrics in a Dire Straits song and a recent conversation about the "C" word. But there's one other word I would like to see erased from our modern vocabulary. The word Whore. It's an ugly word that describes only the most base and vile of people and has no place in the same sentence as the ladies, on CERB or anywhere else. We can't eliminate it from use by the masses, ignorant and uneducated about the quality of the women found in communities like this one, but we can express disapproval when someone uses it, no differently then if they had used the "C" or "N" words. And unless they're using it to describe someone in politics or shoveling nonsense for sensationalist media (looking at you US and Fox), people should realize how dirty the word is. Most of the ladies here on CERB are smart and charming and have huge hearts. CERB raised plenty of money for Haitian relief after the devastating Earthquake last year while Rush Limbaugh, with his 400 million dollar deal, refused to donate a single dollar. Some of the ladies assist charities all year long, have gone out of their way to help people in tough situations and the list could go on all day. Suffice to say, it's one word I'd like to see disappear forever.

I disagree. The more you censor a word, the more powerful it becomes. You will never succeed at eliminating the word. We can only diffuse it. Why do you think black people, eg. rappers, call themselves niggers? Why do sex workers call themselves whores? To take the power away from the word. Why would you care if someone called you that name when you've already owned it? A proud whore, Megan Posted via Mobile Device

Whore (n) Origin: before 1100; Middle English, Old English hōre; cognate with German Hure, Old Norse hōra; akin to Gothic hors harlot, Latin cārus dear Ladies and gents I love history. Some of the most fascinating things can be found there. Do you actually see what the etymology of the word means... dear! Rather fitting I think; if we look at the origins of the word we can see that it`s not demeaning, it`s actually an endearing term. I found if a few others if you care to indulge: The dreaded `c`word.... '''' is believed to derive from a Germanic root *kunton "female genitalia", which also gave rise to Old Norse kunta (ancestor of Norwegian and Swedish dialectical kunta and Danish dialectical kunte), Old Frisian, Middle Low German and Middle Dutchkunte, and the English doublet quaint. And, by the way, the word wasn't always considered derogatory, even though it is today. Be careful about assuming that a word's modern connotations must have governed its formation. By the way, no connection has been made between the Germanic words and Latin cunnus. The proto-Germanic root of '''' is ku- "hollow place", while the Indo-European root of Latin cunnus is (s)keu- "to cover, to conceal", the etymological meaning of cunnus being "sheath". It has nothing to do with cunning (which is related to the verbs ken and can) and everything to do with what it means today: "female genitalia". It first shows up in a list of London street names of about 1230. That street name was, interestingly, Gropecuntelane, one of a warren of streets and alleyways all given over to the lowest forms of prostitution and bawdry. It lay between Aldermanbury and Coleman Street (where the Swiss Bank stands today) and it belonged to one "William de Edmonton". Curiously, medieval Paris had a street name with an identical meaning - Rue Grattecon. Oxford and York apparently also had similar versions of that street name. The `p` word.... Pussy as a slang term for the female pudenda is thought to derive ultimately from Low German puse "vulva" or Old Norse puss "pocket, pouch". It didn't arise in English with a sexual meaning until the 19th century, but prior to that it had been used to refer to women in general (16th century). Just a little education for the day... and actually quite interesting and amusing!

(originally posted 31 Jan 2009) We finally meet, my pretty one. You met me at your door, clad in your best and most diaphanous. Your eyes opened wide, it was finally, finally your turn to meet me. I can see at a glance that your hair is just so, your makeup is perfect as you grin at me. You chirp cheerfully as you take my coat and offer me a drink. You gush on, how glad you are that I am finally here. Your rich chestnut eyes glitter up at me, your smile gleams. My goodness, you really are pretty. We sip our drinks as we settle on the sofa. You chat. In a few minutes, a trace of puzzlement crosses your eyes. I'm a little shyer and quieter than you had expected. Well, you've seen shy before. Your hand strokes my chest as you ask how my day was. I look down at my feet. I'm not shy, pretty one. Quite the contrary, in fact. But I've come here because I've saved you as a special treat for a day like today. I'm in a funk. This is one of those days where a shadow is over my soul, a dark cloud above me. The dark cloud isn't just the leaden winter sky, but life itself casting its shadow over me as it is deals me a losing hand. But I can't tell you that. I can't burden just any stranger with the way I really feel, least of all you. I can see concern starting to flicker across your pretty face. You want so badly to impress me. You don't know that you already have, my pretty, or I wouldn't be here right now. You want so much to please me. You want to make me feel good. Maybe you even hope that I'll smile on you with my words later. I can see that you are trying harder now. I can see that you're just about ready to try anything, to say anything to bring me to the world of sunshine and blue skies. You can't, my pretty. I already know that you're going to be wonderful, but I also know that you can't perform miracles. You can't clear up the mess that is my life, you can't straighten this twisted and rutted road that I'm on. And more than anything else, you can't become her. All you can do is help me forget for a little while. To take my mind off of. And perhaps I can even close my eyes and imagine for just a moment that I'm with her. You open your mouth, and I know you'll say something foolish in a moment. I kiss you then, before you can say more. I rise, and take your hand. Let's go, pretty one.

Those of you who are getting so upset at the word aren't looking at the big picture. It's in how you use it. If you like beer you are going to enjoy drinking it. But if someone uses it to pour over your head you might not like it so much.. It's all in context my friends. As so many have pointed out it's the intention.. not the word that's important. It's all a matter of perspective.

I absolutely agree with using the term whore.. in fact we joke about it often at my house.. I'm a whore.. not a slut. I'm proud to be a working woman aka whore. I understand where you're coming from in a way.. but being 'gallant' as many men try to be.. this is how it works. You shouldn't call us one. You haven't earned the privilege. It's a term of endearment amounst those of us who are proud to minimize the power of the word. In the same way we teasingly call each other ''be-atch'' sometimes. But I have to admit I'm still not there with the word '''C*nt'''. A rose by any other name is still a rose.. and the same is true eventually for all negatively charged words that become less so over the years. Plus it's fun to tease my fellow working girls when one declares I need to take a shower.. ''you dirty whore''.

I think the word whore is a term that has been used excessively in this generation and will probably phase out. Such terms like media whore and attention whore have all been used in recent years. We never heard of this 15 years ago. Think back over 30+ years ago when guys used the word c**t to describe a woman's genitalia. Now everyone calls it pussy. And on another note, if someone wants to call a sex worker a whore then that's like calling a bus driver a bus driver. It's a word that's out there and is not going to go away anytime soon. I know of a lot of SPs who have embraced this word and admittedly I've used the term myself. Now would I want a client calling me this? No, just like he wouldn't want me to call him a trick or a john. It's just a matter of respect as these are all slang words. Go ahead and call someone a prostitute but it just doesn't have the same jive as saying "You're such a f**king whore."

I'm glad to see this topic popping up now and then, and thanks to SA for starting it as it can be a delicate and painful topic. Two thoughts: In a way, I think its good for us (both for the guys and the ladies) to have to deal with this issue now and then as it brings home the point that, for the most part, these are "artificial" relationships. I dont mean that in a negative way, but these relationships dont start the way normal relationships do and we need to be reminded of that now and then. I suspect many of the ladies may have some feelings for some of their clients but its just easier, emotionally, to "drop off the grid" and move on. I suspect that most of the guys respect that, and its great when the lady sends out a "goodbye" message here. To Angela's point ... heck ... there's no reason why the ladies shouldn't be able to keep in touch if they are interested. If there's enough interest in that, maybe there could be a forum open only to the ladies for the retired SPs to keep a conversation going. That being said, its an undeniable truth that friendships develop in the middle of these artificial relationships and that can be a pretty confusing. And I bet in those situations, the people involved manage to keep in touch. If they dont, we shouldn't take it personally, and we should always assume their "better angels" are leading them away.

It's like this... When women are naked, they are all alike: sexy, hot, beautiful. When women are dressed up, they show their uniqueness in their own way. I like to see a girl dressing up.

I absolutely love every side of this argument. The whole idea - what is a word with/without it's meaning. The initial and original meaning of a word has NOTHING to do with it's literal meaning. If I call my girlfriend a "Bitch" it's usually a term I use with my closest of friends. One that I've been through things with. Lol I've been known to call my Besty my "Top Bitch". The word Whore was always just a statement of what I am, and what I do. And yet, if I don't know you, or you have a negative tone in your voice, the word Whore is NOT gonna fly. What is a word without the feeling or intent behind it? Nothing.

Honestly, what is a word except for a vehicle that we use to describe something. On paper it is just a series of letters. Vocally, it's a structured sound designed to illicit a response or an understanding. Sometimes that response comes in the form of an emotional feeling. If you're the type who is offended by a particular word then what you're really objecting to is the feeling that the word provokes. By censoring, banning, restricting the use of any particular word or phrase you're actually trying to protect yourself from having your feelings hurt, if even in a small or minor way. Well, the human condition is such that we're subject to a myriad of complex feelings throughout our lives. In fact, our feelings are often what shape and define our characters. Trying to ban a particular feeling is like trying to deny who we are. I'm uncomfortable with the whole idea of banning, censoring, blocking words or thoughts of any kind. We all know where censorship leads.

The "c" word, best way to eliminate it's use is to not use it. But you can't stop others from using it, and people that do show their true colours Likewise, I find the word whore distasteful. Irrespective of any definition, it is, in fact most of the time used as a hateful derogatory and demeaning word used to describe ladies, whether escorts or prostitutes on a street corner...when you use hateful, derogatory and demeaning words, you dehumanize people. That leads to people thinking they can conduct themselves against ladies any way they like, and is not acceptable My 2 cents RG

Definition as Urban Dictionary Shows! Whore: A woman that sleeps with everyone but YOU!!!!! SEE: SLUT - A woman that sleeps with everyone. That whore wouldn't sleep with me. If this is a true definition, then I am proud to be a whore! Haha Problem with today's society is that they are using all kinds of terms out of context. Like Ass, it's true definition is a donkey, but we use it to describe people as well as our backsides. Another example of miss use is a Bitch, it's definition is an angry female dog, but people use it in slang all the time. If everyone takes offense to what others say all the time, we would be living horrible lives. I take this prospective: Look where it is coming from, and what way it was meant to be taken. People have called me a "bitch" in the past, but I do not take offense. Dogs are cute! :bigclap:

Lets be a little careful here guys ... although I agree that "PM me for details" is not a hugely positive sign, there may be something particular about the SP that the "PM me" poster wants to explain. I only say this because if someone reads this thread, especially a newer member, they may automatically assume that "PM me for details" means a negative review, and that's not necessarily true.

It can be thrilling to think that you know people here that you deal with in your everyday life or from the past but it's another thing when reality sets in and they actually do know you. A part of me doesn't like to think that I know people on Cerb because I like ot keep my business and personal life seperate. However, I'm sure there are people out there. Unfortunately Ottawa is not a big city where you could use anonymity to your advantage. And speaking of knowing someone on Cerb and then realizing that you know them has happened to me and while it was a surprise, there's really nothing you can do about it. I recently had someone PM me saying they think they know me yet they gave me no clues as to how I know them. I haven't heard back from them. Taking this discussion one step further, I think if you recognize an SP from the past or present, I think you should just leave it at that. It is one thing to book with someone and not realize it was someone you know but it's another thing to recognize someone from their pictures and intentionally meet with them for that purpose. That to me is wierd. I'm not keen on the idea of someone going out of their way to try and meet with me claiming they know me and putting me in awkward position while that person is still free to remain anonymous until if and when they decide to show up. This isn't high school and frankly I'd rather forget about some people from that era.lol. Trickery will get you nowhere. Discretion is a two way street and I would rather not be outted in such a manner. I am positive that many men here wouldn't appreciate an SP making their lives difficult by claiming that they know them from somewhere. I try to be as private as I can possibly be and realize there are risks in this business and attempt to minimize them as best as I can. While I commend other SPs who are 'out' there, I have chosen not to do that for various reasons. And even though we have put ourselves out in the public eye, it doesn't mean that we don't deserve privacy. If you see an SP's pictures and think you know her, it would be in my opinion to keep it to yourself. That's the thrill of this whole business is to keep those secrets, not expose them.

boomer I was doing my half-retirement last June when everyone was saying the duos I have no one to do some with. That is so not fun:( and I LOVE boobies *pout*

I've got a Saturday morning chat rant again to add. : ) Please, if you request to have a private chat and you are not interested in the service being offered, please say thank you for your time and good bye without just leaving. To be honest, I'm not looking to book while on chat, so taking the time to have a private conversation is friendly and personable. We take the time to share something and this is not how anyone should conduct themselves. I find it so rude and very impolite. Anyone else?

Reading this thread brings many thoughts to mind and heart. Because of the negative perceptions of this business, many SPs leave with no option but to simply cut ties. It is a struggle for an SP to leave for many reasons. Never assume the decision was flippant in any way. There is an emotional commitment to her clients and walking away isn't done on a whim. Most feel that terminating all contact is the only way to go. The shame and social rejection that comes from publicly admitting our profession is overwhelming to all those that do not have the inner fortitude to withstand and come thru it. Other professions allow a forwarding address and relationships developed are allowed to continue and are considered valuable, but in this there are so many challenges it is almost impossible to maintain relationships if a woman has been an SP in secret. The one reason that is consistent with all of those that leave for romantic motivations (which in my experience is the #1 reason for retirement) is the insecurity that comes from their SO. The fallout is usually nuclear in proportion if it is found out that there is a continued relationship with a guest after she has "squared up". Even the most stable of men will have issues with her work, and it will undermine everything in the union, and SPs realize this. It takes an extraordinary man to accept that her work isn't a threat, and underneath the facade SPs want most to be loved and accepted. So they are faced with a choice...the man who wants to love them forever or the man that wants to love them for an hour a couple of times a month. It's a huge gamble in my opinion. If a man cannot accept me in my entirety including my work, then he is not the man for me. From my perspective, a complete cessation of contact with my guests would be akin to cutting off a limb. First and foremost they are my friends. I tried to refer many of them this summer to other SPs and it was an complete and utter failure. The reason I continue to travel back to Ottawa is because I have guests here that count on me and leaving them hanging simply isn't an option. Does that mean we are to close? What is too close? Is loving someone wrong if it isn't in the "traditional" sense? I think the posts above show that guests truly are more than a venue to generate money and I want hobbyists to know that most professional SPs invest themselves emotionally in very deep ways. Always remember this profession doesn't usually attract the woman that is strong and whole. We become SPs because we are trying to fix the financial crunch and do not understand the emotional side of things until we are in it. Some find wholeness, it gives us so much. Others are destroyed by it. I find my work rewards me back in direct proportion to what I invest in it. Each and every one of us are bent in our own unique way. The common perception is that we are money hungry and greedy, but for the good ones it isn't true. We have an unusual ability to love and let go when the time is right. In the grand scheme of the Universe, all relationships are simultaneously precious and insignificant. We must live in the moment, cherish what is now and accept that nothing in this world is stable. Not the concrete buildings we reside in, the earth below our feet or the experiences shared. Every relationship I have is treasured for what it is right now. Tomorrow, if circumstances have changed, I will remember fondly as every experience builds who we are as people and that is what we are here for... Catherine