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I don't really know if it's my place to give my two cents, but I'll drop my two cents anyways.... First off, I respect both sides of the coin. This post isn't meant to state that either side is wrong or right, I'm just giving my opinion. I'm not going to lie and say guys only care solely about things like personality, because that's probably not true. Most men are visual creatures and are attracted to certain physical characteristics. Now, I'm not saying each guy is attracted to the same thing, because that's just not true. Just because one guy likes apples and another guy likes oranges, doesn't mean either is wrong, in fact each guy is right. At first to be honest, I didn't think there wasn't a problem with a "Best of Threads". This thread though gave me insight on the other side of the coin. And after seeing it from another persons perspective, I agree that these types of threads aren't the best thing for this community as a whole. Let's say you are infatuated with an escort, we shall call her J-Lo. If you want to let the CERB world know why you think she is great, write a reco for her. That does two things 1) It lets you express to the CERB world what attracts you to J-Lo. 2) Writing a reco doesn't compare her to the other SP's. Now think about if instead of writing a reco, you write a "Best of What an SP Should Look Like" Thread. Yes it does let you express to CERB what attracts you to an SP. But then at the same time you are... 1) By saying it's the BEST, any girl who isn't athletic, tanned, or has a butt like J-Lo might feel insecure now. It likely won't faze all girls (most of the girls on CERB are tough like chocolate chip cookies from Starbucks, not weak like Tim Horton's tea biscuits), but indirectly some MIGHT feel less confident, less appreciated, less attractive, or just not up to par. 2) Setting a standard that is almost impossible to attain. Think about a lady who is thinking about maybe becoming an escort and lurks thru the forums. Reading these types of thread might have a negative impact on her decision. She might think she is not good enough and decide escorting isn't for her. So you might even have a negative impact on the market. Now, to combat the rebuttal, "If you don't like it, don't read it". Yes, theoretically that makes sense. But let's be realistic people. These threads are like watching an eclipse. You know you aren't suppose to look at the sun when it's going on, but don't you take a peak anyways? (maybe that's why I enjoy colouring so much). Why do you think Christopher Columbus searched for new land, why did we send Neil Armstrong to the moon, and why did Lebron James take his talents to South Beach? Humans are just curious people, we're always poking our nose where we know we shouldn't look. Think about it guys, how would we like it if the SP's created a thread like... "Who has the best abs?" "Which client has the biggest, thickest, most bad-ass mother f*cking d*ck?" "Which client is like Super Mario and has the best pipes?" "Which client sings like Justin Bieber?" I think we can all agree if these threads existed, yes we would hate, but it's likely we probably would lurk in them. We would have this false hope that we might be mentioned, and then when we lurk & find out we aren't.... let's be honest, at least to me, I would feel like poo. Yes, dirty, stanky poo. That's not a good feeling gents. I might even feel less willing to now visit an SP, because I'm now not fitting her standards, because she's receiving so much better from other clients. Guys you are free to post what you want, and say what you like in a lady, I just think there's a time & a place for it, and I don't think these "Best of Threads" are the place for it. I know you guys are all good, honest, caring people and it isn't your intention to hurt these ladies, but these threads can indirectly be demeaning to the lovely ladies of CERB. An example of this is like the numerous magazines you might see in the grocery store. These magazine editors might think they are doing great things letting the world know how hot Aylssa Milano, Angelina Jolie, or the list goes on is. But at the same time, I can only imagine the poor thoughts running thru the little teenage girl who walks past the magazine stand and negative thoughts that might scatter into her head thinking things like she isn't thin enough, or not big enough boobs, or stupid superficial shit like that. Now, I'm sure the magazine editor doesn't have the intention of harming these poor teenage girls, but he/she is indirectly doing that. But at least the magazine editor has an excuse (not a good excuse, but an excuse, lol), it is their job, and they make money of it. Now think about that guys next time you post these types of threads. You are indirectly doing a lot of harm, and to be honest, if you aren't a magazine editor, what are you really standing to gain by doing these types of threads? Lastly, this post wasn't meant to attack anybody. I just wanted to give my two cents. The ladies of CERB are strong, wonderful, great ladies, I just think we should stop trying to break them down like car parts. Any lady will have flaws if you break them down a million times. But if you just stop in the moment, take a full step back, I think you will be left speechless, because each lady in her own right is absolutely beautiful when all the puzzle pieces are put together as one...

I had a guy complain about my oral skills once in a review - said I used my teeth too much. I guess he was too stupid to realize I was intentionally digging my teeth in everytime he pushed my head down into his groin. My neck was sore for two days after that but at least I had the satisfaction of knowing that his dick was likely feeling the same way.

Ok here I go. I know some will not agree with this but it has been in my mind for a while now and I just have to get it out! I know in cerb as long as nothing negative is said there is freedom of speech so by no means this is an attempt from me to stop this but just me showing another side of the coin, a woman's perspective and boy that can be complicated so get ready guys. For months I have been reading or sometimes just seeing in the main index all the 'best whatever' threads and I often think 'The best according to who?' obviously according to whoever posted it but my point is in order to know what or who the best is you would have to try them all right? In my dictionary the best is very relative as we all have different tastes which means definition of best varies from one person to another and what is best for me may very likely not be for someone else. I have a point I promise. I know us ladies on cerb are confident enough not to let this 'best' threads bother us as we are aware of the fact that each of us is a different individual with characteristics and skills that make us all unique but I still find naming someone the best kind of shallow. Yes, of course us ladies feel flattered with the compliments we receive but I think this can be left in the picture comments and recommendations area. I know this may and very likely will not change anything or stop you guys from posting on those threads but that's not my goal anyway but you understanding a litle more the way we or at least I feel. In the end as much as as I said these 'best' threads have been in my mind for a while it was actually a comment in a recommendation I read yesterday that made me write this and I know the guy who wrote it meant nothing else but complementing the lady he was talking about but I found it a little too extreme so I'll quote him ' she is the way all women should be' seriously?? I may be overreacting but find this comment kind of extreme. The fact that to him this lady is what he was looking for in an escort or/and a great experience for him does not mean us other women should be like her. Am I taking this too literally? Possibly but still needed to get it out. Thanks to those who read this!! xoxo

I personally actually prefer communicating with a SP via PM on here, or if they're not too active on here (or aren't on here at all) I'll mention my handle and cerb in an e-mail. I really don't see how giving out my handle to a SP can threaten my privacy at all. With my handle, if she so chooses to, the SP can see my post history, get a good idea of my personality by reading some of my posts, get an idea of my preferences by reading past recommendations, and checking me out in the SP Only area and not seeing any complaints or red flags from other SP's (I hope :p ). Doing all these things in no way threatens my privacy, and would most assuredly make her more comfortable seeing me, which all but guarantees a more pleasurable encounter for both of us. I'm also not worried about being pressured to give an unwarranted recommendation. If she's the type who expects a dishonest recommendation from me, then she's probably not someone I want to keep talking to, even online. If she tries to spread BS about me because I didn't give her a recommendation, well, my history on here should count for something. And upon request I'm sure at least a few of the SP's I've seen who are still active wouldn't mind vouching for me as a dependable, respectful and trustworthy client. Long story short, if you're a decent person, and intend to treat the ladies you see with respect and kindness, then I don't see why anyone would be worried about giving out their handles.

Pimping -- as in other relationship crimes like spousal and child abuse -- can be incredibly difficult to prosecute because the victim often sides with the perpetrator for any number of complex reasons. I believe the "living off the avails" law was as broad as it was precisely to remove the need for the victim's assistance for prosecution. But I know of no instance in which the law was used to break up legitimate families. Technically my husband has been in violation of this law for nearly 30 years, yet we knew he'd never never be prosecuted. I didn't have any problem with the laws as they were (are). It seems to me that this whole challenge is about streetwalker safety, although all sides seem to agree that dropping the laws will neither inhibit streetwalking or make streetwalking any safer. All my life, I've had cops, politicians, and self righteous assholes use streetwalking as grounds for treating me unfairly, trying to deny me my rights, and exploiting me It breaks my heart now to see misguided women in my own profession doing the same thing. These women DO NOT speak for all of us, and are doing as good a job of exploiting us as the best of them. I salute the lawyer -- what a feather in his cap. I'm sure he's smart enough to know the implications this will have for his short-sighted Pollyanna clients, but it's not his job to do what's best for them. It's his job to advance his career.

Congratulations to Megan (Megan's Touch) on her 2000th post !! I thought I'd honour this amazing accomplishment with a word game. I've tried to construct as many words and phrases as I can from the letters M E G A N without using the same letter more than once. It's remarkable how fitting these words and phrases are. See for yourself... GAME: Forget games like golf, hockey, scrabble, etc. The games she will play with you are much more fun. NAME: During a session with her you may not remember your wife's name. Or your own name for that matter. NAG ME: Something she does not do to me. NAG 'EM: Something she does not do to other men. MEAN: Something she is not. MAN: Something she definitely is not. (I checked) MEN: These people like her alot. AGE: Well above legal. Yet not too high. MANE: She has nice long hair. AMEN: Oh, and one more thing God: Thank you for Megan. Amen. MANGE: An infectious disorder mainly affecting domestic animals, characterized by itching, formation of papules and vesicles, and loss of hair: caused by parasitic mites. (Hmmm...I probably should have skipped that one) And last but not least... A GEM -Anonymous

Thank you for sharing Cato! Taylor is gorgeous and has an amazing behind!

In the spirit of Megan and Malika - I thought I would post my bum shot.

Well said Scott. I never saw this thread until now but you said it for all of us. Well done (can't give you anymore rep points). This way no ones freedom to write his/her mind and freedom to choose to view or ignore is violated. Best features (as in my recommendations) don't have to be only physical but they could be best of personalities, best of hygiene,friendliness, best of services, best GFE, best encounters as well as physical like best eyes, hair, legs .....and everybody knows they are very subjective. Additional Comments: Shortcake, I have NEVER posted a single picture in the best of threads so I never needed anyone's permission (my very first post was today where I quoted a lovely picture of Carmen already posted) so I can't understand the negative rep!!!!!!!!!! but that's okay (I agreed with Scott's post where he also said permission is needed and I agreed). Just wished to make sure I am not misunderstood. It is my uderstanding that pictures were taken from the albums put by the lady herself. And it was (re) posted within the very same board was it not? So,the question is whether permission is needed to post in the thread something that IS ALREADY posted by the lady herself in the board within the same board?. I am with Scott on this. I think if I wish to post a picture I would send a brief note asking lady's approval though I would be very surprised if permission is denied lol!!!. Additional info: Your comment is incorrect. New information reveals that Permission was granted by the person in the picture ever since last year when we all agreed upon that.

The river streamed past slowly, its grey-green water flowing with hardly a ripple. The odd bit of cottonwood tree fluff floated past. I smiled, amused, when a mother duck and her tiny ducklings appeared from out of the mist. They paddled past as the water steamed slightly in the cool July morning air. The river. I'm sitting right here on the bank watching it. This liquid ribbon defines my home, my river city. It twists and meanders through my home town, not a straight stretch in sight. I've grown up here, never ever very far from it. It moves slowly, implacably. I've known this river my whole life, and it will be here long after I'm gone from this earth. I take a little comfort from that, knowing that some things are forever. It's usually head clearing to be here, free from the rest of my crazy life, but today is different. Sitting under this tree today, my thoughts are doing some twisting and meandering of their own. It's a special day. I have a little time to kill. I'm going to meet Alicia, in a couple of hours. It seems like we met ages ago. I remember the day I first saw her. She was a thing of beauty. Elfin features and milky white skin, that tiny lightly freckled face, that long curly hair. She took my breath away, and I was speechless. At a loss for words, there was only one thing I could do. I reached forward and kissed her. Though her lips were as a butterfly alighting on my lips, her arms around me were the embrace of something wild. And when we got to her bedroom, oh, my.. I left her place that first time, in awe and a little in love. This young woman had well and truly rocked my world. No furies would be powerful enough to keep me away. I saw her again and again, and it would be the delight of my whole week when we could meet. Time streamed past, flowing slowly, inexorably. But she was a cipher to me. There are boundaries, there are limits in this game. No names. No personal details. And definitely no socializing outside of our times together. But sometimes, the river will change. Change ever so gradually, almost imperceptibly. You notice that a little of the shore is gone under the water, some of the gaps in my knowledge of her were filled. They were there, just a moment ago. Our budding friendship grew and grew until it eventually overflowed its banks. It made us realize that maybe, just maybe, we wanted to know each other just a little better. We met for the first time outside of her place, at this very spot beside the river. Under this very tree. I brought a picnic lunch for us in a wicker basket, spread a plaid blanket on the lush grass as I waited nervously for her to arrive. She appeared from behind the trees, smiling her enigmatic smile, a modern Mona Lisa made flesh. Our relationship was to round its first curve, settling naturally and gracefully into an easy friendship. I found we'd come from different worlds, she and I. I came from inauspicious beginnings. Many youthful hours at the public library brought me to a world where words were king, and I discovered they flowed from my pen with the ease of water flowing out a spout. Much hard work brought me success and a little fame, but I never forgot my humble roots. Not even now that my temples are graying, and crinkles appear at the corners of my eyes when I smile. And I, ever so serious, was as firmly rooted in life as the hard clay under my feet on this riverbank. I envied her childhood. She had lived her short life in comfort and ease, every whim waiting to be granted just for the asking. Her young heart was light and carefree in her world without strife. I marveled at her playfulness, her joy at life. I envied that, too, in my world of pressure, of deadlines, of words forced out in a rushed hurry. I admired her laughter, her smiles, sparkling bright as the midday sun on the river's waves. But we discovered something else, besides that we both thrilled to the touch of the other. We found that age can just be a number. That sometimes two minds can think as one. That completely different personalities, forged from experiences worlds apart, could find such common ground. And though we came together at first in silence, we found we could spend endless hours talking about everything under the sun as we sailed through our days together. My time with Alicia is coming to a close. She's moving on. She is about to drift out to sea, far away out of sight and off to parts unknown. But first, today, she's granting me the honor of being the last in this life. It's a nice little bit of symmetry. I was one of her first, you know. I know that we might never touch each other in that way again, after today. But I'm not sad. Because it is not goodbye today to Alicia, but so long. And a warm hello to my friend Jennifer.

On Sunday morning I heard a loud noise, like a gunshot, now all the birds have stopped tweeting...something is amiss, I can't get back to sleep LOL RG

Visited this afternoon, three dancers, a barmaid and three customers. Deader than a doornail. No familiar dancers and no spotting of Tina from Dominican Republic, unless she became a chunky blonde, CALIBER OF DANCERS: Fair to Poor.

so Miss Voyeur has retired....too bad...I imagine she will be missed. The couple of visits I had were positive, and I would have liked more.... Why do the clean, friendly, sexy ones have to retire !?!?

I'm not convinced laws are the way to go. People do stuff whether it's legal or not. I think social initiatives would be better.

I don't know if these "Best of Threads" are objectifying women and since they are posted in the general discussion area, I read what I want and ignore the rest. Do I find certain posts annoying? Of course but I can choose to read it or ignore it. I don't think these threads should be taken too seriously. I also don't think men here expect us to look like these women because most of these pictures are a) photoshopped b) damn good lighting & airbrushing. I've had so many other things consume me in my life that I don't get caught up in the trivial things in life anymore. Do I really do I give a flying fig about what one guy is looking for in a woman? Absolutely not. If we start being too politically correct about everything and start censoring our thoughts, there is no point in contributing on this board. Let the person who starts the "Best of Threads" fantasize and dream because maybe it's all he's got or it feeds his ego when he writes recos on how women should be. No offense to whoever this is. Beauty is subjective and people are going to have their different standards on what they want a woman to look like. At the end of the day, I'm not going to cry on my pillow because someone is objectifying women. I've accepted this as a part of reality and the business I'm in and know that I don't have to or need to conform to what one person wants me to be.

While I agree with most of what's been said here, I would only like to add that here at home, we have been noticing a steady increase in our costs of living. Our hydro bills are outrageous, despite stringent efforts to cut back on electricity use and purchasing energy efficient devices. Our gasoline prices are inching back up there again. We normally set a budget of $1000/year for home heating, and this is the first year we ever went over. We only went over by $20-30, but when you consider that we paid an extra $80 in HST this year, it's not difficult to see what pushed us over. There may be no rhyme or reason to slow periods, but I think it's true that almost all of us these days are finding our costs of living higher. Too, jobs are scarcer. I know a number of people who lost their jobs two years ago, and today either haven't found employment or haven't found a job paying anywhere near what their old one paid. Many young people we know are finding full-time jobs hard to come by, and jobs with benefits even rarer. Those of us who were around in the late 90s/early 00s see an enormous difference. Back then, I had friends who were happy to take 6, 8, or 10 appointments a day who had no trouble getting them! And at pretty much the same rates we're seeing now. So what's changed over the past ten years or so? Large, national and multinational corporations are sitting on more cash than ever, and their top executives are raking in salaries and bonuses that, until only recently, would have seemed unimaginable. Meanwhile, for those of us not blessed to be in that rarefied set are finding the basic necessities of life more expensive, incomes more insecure and depressed, a sharp increase in our tax burden, and less money in our pockets to live... well, shall we say, in the manner to which we've become accustomed. Who's at fault? Some will insist to us that it's government workers (our clients, ladies) or union workers (again, our clients), pensioners (ditto), or beneficiaries of "entitlement" programs. But I say, follow the money. Most of us haven't been doing well by the way our provinces and country have been managed in recent years, but others are doing fabulously. Maybe if our governments gave us the same breaks they give them, we'd all be doing better too! Or maybe if our governments simply expected them to pay their fair shares, thereby distributing the load a bit more evenly, we wouldn't be in a state of endless economic crisis. How much more of this are we gonna take? Get involved. http://canadauncut.net/

Whenever I contact a lady on cerb I always provide my cerb handle and proudly so (and my first name and of course my full address too). I don't have any reason to remain anonymous though as I am single and I am outcalls only (legal). I believe that there is a relatively good chance that providing my cerb handle will make the lady feel safer and if it does, then why should I not provide it. Afterall we have the opportunity to read their recommendations and make a decision so why they should not have an equal opportunity to make an inform decision for a date with us. The ladies can make an informed decision whether to be my guest and date or not by reading my posts and recommendations and give them an opportunity to check out the SP private area (so they would know what to expect!!), and that they can contact other ladies who I have dated in the past for references. In summary I believe that providing my cerb handle would likely make my guests feel safer, more relaxed and they would feel more at home when they arrive.

Most of the ladies do not have MBA's so expecting them to do what mainstream business's do (In the way they operate the business) is not realistic (Wrong expectations!) Mainstream business men and women with either a business education or years of being in a professional business environment learn certain "rules" for successfully marketing a and operating a company. These are things you LEARN over time but can benefit greatly upfront if you learn them early. For Instance... Such things as.. downturns (How to anticipate and how to ensure security) never admitting your slow (sales are down) most business professionals know NEVER to do this (Always say your doing great) ROI (Return on investment - how to make 10.00 into 100.00) landing a deal (Market, Sales Pitch and HOW TO seal the deal!) Addressing your customers needs (It's not always about the sex or the looks - the personality is very important and the way you make your customer feel is very important) phone sales (Mannerisms... not to answer the cell phone while driving or with screaming kids or yelling friends... or loud music playing) Time Management scheduling Follow Ups Repeat sales (Return clients) etc... A lot of the ladies learn this over time and trial and error... (and that can hurt a ladies reputation before she even gets started full swing). Things many people who work in mainstream business assume are common knowledge or obvious choices allude many people who have no formal business experience - and it's easy to forget that at times. This business has no prerequisites, you do not need any business skills to make money as a provider but if you had those skills you could make a LOT MORE money. A few of the ladies over the years have had MBA's and they usually excel rapidly and really do well in the business... and really you do not need a MBA to learn these things. Most are common sense but often overlooked or viewed as not as important. The most successful ladies are the ones who have the ENTIRE PACKAGE (Sell the fantasy, polite on the phone, never miss appointments, treat the guy like he is a god, have lots of fun and enjoy people).... It may just be a big act or illusion ... or it may be the lady really likes her job (Either way the customer should NEVER be able to tell the difference). If you do this you will rarely have slow times as your "Regulars" will keep you busy during these off season times.