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I think that I'm not alone in thinking that I was really surprised when first signing up to CERB at how much goes on here. While CERB was originally established as a forum to facilitate both SPs and Hobbyiests' experiences of finding a good match, those of us who are on here regularly know that CERB has far outgrown this single purpose. We regularly have respectful discussions about all sorts of things: politics, sexual health, relationship advice, to name a few. I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread where everyone can share some of the things we've learned as a result of CERB. I'll start: When I first started working, I had already done some work to break down the stereo-type of who clients were, but it was CERB who taught me that people who seek companionship from SPs are often wonderful, respectful and kind-hearted people. I also learned how powerful all of the SPs on here are! XO Sky

CERB is a community to allow Providers and Hobbyists to interact with one another. It is a business model that works for each party. Providers get clients, clients get providers. I am kind of dismayed that people get there feathers ruffled if they receive a PM and it's a friendly solicitation or a post on their profile page that is viewed by themselves or others. Why complain? I do not mind getting either forms of Solicitation. Personally, I have received such and appreciate the fact that a provider will see me, sometimes it's from a lady that has not been around in awhile, that I would like to see again. This board has a component of soliciting. Providers advertise their service. Is this what we are not all here for?

Well I was kinda happy that I asked the question about the profile visitor issue and started this thread. I like to think there has been some good debate about the pro's and con's of the messages left on ones profile. There was a wise comment made earlier where the individual could shut off that guest book feature or simply delete the message on their own profile. I also fully endorse the reasoning behind the shut down of the option, but also do really admit I miss it. I'm sure either way it will all work out for everyone's benefit. Over the time, I often enjoyed the flirting between a lady and myself,but it has never came across to me as bold, solicitation or in fact desperate on my part or ever from the ladies that have visited my profile and left a message, even if she said" Missing you" The actual set up of a date was/ is always done behind closed doors through pm's or emails. The ladies here always have shown professionalism through great flirting,no different than us gents making a nice comment about welcoming the lady,or her photo's or in fact telling her to have a great day. It is/was a communication tool used by the vast majority of us here, with keeping within the guidelines and rules. So kudo's to you ladies, for doing that (gentle flirting I love it) over the time, and as Mr.Green said.... "minority" in this case can ruin things for the the majority. (Well said Mr.Green!)

What is Cerb? Folks have wares for sale and buyers have interest in said wares. How these said wares are advertised and promoted is irrelevant for me. Solicit away I say :) Peace MG

A few things. To address the original question: Yes, it is rude, and it shows that you are not taking responsibility for your own actions. You weren't worried about STD's until after the condom slipped off, so why is it now okay to ask the SP to prove she's clean? You are responsible for your own sexual health. That means getting tested regularly and having safe sex. When condoms slip or break, go and get tested again. It's as simple as that. By asking an escort if she'll show you her tests to prove she's healthy, you are placing the onus on her to provide a safe experience. And as I said, it is up to you to ensure your own sexual health. Sex workers are safer sex experts and use safer sex supplies at rates much higher than the general public. To address the assumption that sex workers are obviously sleeping with more partners than the average woman--it all depends. But to assume that because we're sex workers we have more partners--well that's just silly. You cannot know the number of partners we may or may not have. So don't assume that we're all high volume, sleeping with as many partners as we can. We'd all burn out pretty quick if that were the case. And I have to agree with Elizabeth Saunders--involving alcohol increases the chances of doing something stupid, such as having unsafe sex. You're more likely to catch something from a random chick at a bar than an escort. With regard to HIV only, I'd just like to point out that sex workers are not even considered a high risk by Public Health Canada.

In the end we all have to be responsible for our own sexual health. Asking an SP to reassure you is not taking full responsibility of your own health....its asking her to reassure you that you're safe, and no SP can do that because we're SPs...not doctors. Best to go get tested regularly if you are having multiple partners (this includes SPs and especially non SPs)..... asking someone if they are sure they are clean and asking for proof is kinda like asking someone if they're lying....or at least it feels like it on our end.

This post is just about my thoughts on a subject, it's just my opinion, I'm not saying it is right, I'm not saying it is wrong, it just my views. First a little bit about myself, I'm in my mid-twenties. I've been in short relationships, long relationships (longest 3 years), but for pretty much this past year, I've been single. Dated a few girls, but nothing really that I would consider a serious "relationship". Something I have noticed though is especially in August aka "Wedding Season" is that a lot of what used to be my core friends are all getting married or are in pretty serious relationships. I've noticed that myself and my other "single" friends have slowly been indirectly pushed out of our social circles. Now, it's not that our "couple friends" are assholes or anything like that, they are great awesome people, it's just that "couples" hang out with "couples". While single people are slowly pushed to the curb. Mind you, this is just my opinion, it may not be the case all the time. So what is a single person to do? They are suppose to get back into a relationship. Society programs us to find someone else whether it be the bar, dating websites, the grocery store, or whatever else. And too, even if you find someone, you will always have that dreaded shadow behind you of past relationships. The public seems to think that just because a past relationship ENDS it equals FAILURE. How is that even fair? How is that even correct? Singleness is treated like a disease, like it needs to be fixed. It's treated like a state that one surely needs to change as quickly as possible, and a change we should all strive for. If you are single, friends view you as miserable, something is wrong you, and that they need to make sure you are going to make it. Western society drives the thought into children at a young age thru the media & even sometimes in real life, that a person should always be striving for romance or sexual desire. Being single does not represent success and happiness. The stigma of singleness needs to be removed. The devaluation of it needs to come to a halt. For example, what if in Ottawa, happiness didn't equal getting married, moving away from downtown, and moving into a house in Kanata or Orleans, then starting a family. Another example would be what if little girls weren't driven by society to organize their life around a heterosexual relationship as the focal point, then put other things like friends, a career, living arrangements etc. around that relationship wherever it may fit. What really is wrong with living with roommates? What really is wrong with living members of the opposite sex without dating? What really is wrong with living alone? This not only allows us to experience different social living structures but also allows us to escape the linear line that Western culture tries to cultivate upon us. Life doesn't need to be centered around sex or a relationship. Happiness can be found in numerous other bits & bytes in your life. Just because single people don't centralize their life around sex or a relationship, does not mean they are deficient. There's nothing deficient about being single, and pursuing the kind of life you want. If we as a society just expand our idea on what lives are acceptable, whether you are a middle aged male, divorced, single young lady with career aspirations, gay, lesbian, poly, or even straight married people living in Kanata/Orleans, basically ALL kinds of people, I just think we would be a lot better served.

You're shitting me....I JUST saved this exact same photo to my photobucket album with the intention of posting it in the boobies thread! So much for that idea, great minds think alike :p Additional Comments: Screw it I'm posting it anyway :p

There is a difference between sending pms/signing a guestbook with messages and maybe flirtation and sending solicitations The ladies should feel free to do the former, if it is with a member they feel comfortable enough to send messages to. But soliciting business, that can make a member feel uncomfortable, and maybe pressured to do business. If a lady notices a member has seen her profile, a thank you (at the most) is in my opinion ok. If he wants to see her, he will initiate contact with her. My 2 cents RG

I have learned: 1. That the friendships I have fostered here are genuine. Those that have been to my home, and the yet to visit all have a place in my heart. You know who you are... now you know how I truly feel. 2. That although we may not always see eye to eye, we can enjoy each other's company despite our differences on certain issues. 3. That the most beautiful, desirable women on the planet are also the most intelligent, witty and soulful people I have ever encountered. 4. That if the naysayers and abolitionists actually paid attention to what was written here, they would have a completely different opinion about the industry they ignorantly rally against. 5. That this is a place that can easily occupy many hours of my time and still not be considered time wasted. 6. That sooooo many people set me up for one liners.... In actuality, I think I would be a lesser person had I not found this site... you all make me so much better!

I want to thank MOD for looking after the stalker situation so diligently. Good job!!! It is nice to know we got MOD to help with such a scary situation...so again thanks MOD!!

Thanks for the explanation, Scribbles :) In an SP/client type of "relationship" I don't believe trust has anything to do with it. The risk factors involved play a major role in this particular situation. Trusting "you" won't lower my risks but if I play safe, I'm automatically lowering them ;)

"I also learned how powerful all of the SPs on here are!" Bingo! Peace MG

With this in mind, I think we must give kudos to the mod for acting in such a manner to protect one of our own. I am grateful that he has not named names which could exacerbate the situation our provider finds herself in... and I am thankful that we can show the understanding in the perhaps temporary loss of a feature that we have enjoyed. That my friends, is why CERB is a great community.

if it's for the safety of the ladies, i can live without this feature. the ladies safety is and always is the number one priority here on cerb.

I respectfully disagree, Emily. When I see "Come and see me soon" to me it comes across as soliciting. So if I think that way, so will others and that is what the guys don't like. It also makes the Poster seem a little pushy or desperate. Just my two cents.

Well Once again I find myself easily identifying with Mr Daniel 17, I am also in the same situation. late 20's, ottawa area, and single. After reading your comments Danile my friend can I ever identify with your statements. In the last 3 summers I have participated in 7 weddings including my "younger" siblings. Never does it become more evident that you are alone then at weddings when all you see around are couples. Of course, when your there all people ask is what you do and who your with. Myself, I have always been single for a few reasons. In high school, working/sports was more important to me than dating. Then, as others chose to party and date I chose to continue working. People often misread this as avoidance or procrastination. Don't get me wrong, I believe in marriage, love, monogamy but all in due time and with the right woman. Call it old fashion, crazy or what have you but whne I feel it's the right person and right situation for me I will do it because I'm not one of those guys who wants to be 5 and divorced 3 times. At no time is it more difficult being single and not regarded upon as a failure then when your younger sibling gets married and in my culture(french canadian) when your younger sibling gets married before you its tradition to dance on your socks. It can become quite embarassing, in my case both the bride/groom were the youngest sblings so we were two guys to dance with 250 people watching, so basically they know your getting older and "STILL" not married! Of course for the benefit of my younger sibling I took it all in stride and we had great fun, but of course it still does have it's impact. It is veyr difficult to date these days even with several different avenues, and with alot of frinds being in couples as Daniel17 mentioned they do tend to stick to their "go to" couples. It's fun seing weddings and houses and kids but at some point things get harder. It's a greta compliment when friends want to always "set you up" or your aunts always say "I have the perfect girl for you!" but what exactly tells these people that you require input or efforts or that their is a problem with MY WAY of choosing who I see and what I do. So, when Danile asks: "why do people assume I am unhappy?" I can definetely understand his point of view as I have been comptemplating the exact same thoughts. Just my 2 cents

Wow, i think it is no different then the hobbiest looking repeatedly at our profiles, clearly they are interested in some way.....as it is a site for service providers and men looking for those services.....so why are we hiding? we all know why everyone is on here. we all share that much in common, thats how we have contact with each other, which eventually turns into friendship (cerbship). I dont think its distasteful to reply with a flirty message. I think its fun, light hearted, and exciting. pushing someone and soliciting is begging them to come see you and giving your location and rates and so on on their guestbook-which is not allowed. however saying a playful message like "come play soon" or "hope to meet you soon" etc should be considered just as light as saying see ya later or talk soon etc. ohhhh cerb what is going on?! SMILE! ;) Xoxoxo

To be Honest I thought it was the polite thing to do- to acknowledge and thank the people that have viewed your profile and to be flirtatious enough that they feel invited to visit again and again ;) I am disappointed it is gone. Same with the counter, as that added to the excitement of this site! It also helps determine if the thousands of dollars spent in advertising on here actually works...... I really enjoyed the last 10 visitors option and the counter was a bonus...... my fingers are crossed that it will all return as I miss being able to notice a potential new friend, and to thank them for their interest and their time -etc. xoxoxo

For security reasons i have disabled this feature and i am working on a way to let each user hoose to turn this on or off....problem is this feature is being abused. Urgency to remove this is because one of the ladies has a real bad stalker we cant get rid of. he is watchng her profile and contacts everyone who visits her profile and says bad things about her so no one sees her. i have banned him about 10 times and he keeps coming back with new ip and sneaking in. its adding to his obsession and hurting her business too so for now i disabled it. also... some of the sp's post on every persons wall who visits them and this is also getting complaints. I am looking for a solution that would enable each person to turn on or off this feature.

First off, IslandIndependant, apologies for my earlier response. Seriously I don't function well without a morning pot of coffee, and should have waited till I got home from work before replying I read the lines starting with "If a man is paying..." and honestly, it sounds, even now more like some guys who have made posts that are disrespectful towards SP's For me, and I'm sure for a lot of the gentlemen here, seeing a escort is more than just about sex. Yes, most definitely, sex is part of the encounter, but not the whole encounter. I like the entireity of the encounter, the initial meeting, conversation, sex, kissing/cuddling Another way to put it, I like encounters of two to three hours. I'm fifty years old...do you really believe I have two to three hours sexual stamina at my age?...no, I like the company of women for more than just sex. I don't know whether you have such a narrow shallow view of escorting because it was your mindset before entering the profession, or you have only met guys as clients who view you solely as a means for their sexual gratification. But it should be mutually beneficial. And that, for me doesn't mean money for sex. It means money to compensate for the lady's time, with the benefit of no relationship complications. What happens during the time can be mutually enjoyable and pleasurable. Seeing ladies shouldn't be a zero sum game...that whatever the gentleman gains is at the lady's loss Some coffee laden thoughts RG

Well it has been a while since I did a training duo at CMJ, but I decided that I needed to change that. I saw the ad for Amelia, saw her pics and read her bio, and decided I had to go see this new girl, and am I glad I did. She was doing a training duo with Samantha who I have seen before, and have reviewed before. When I got there I met Samantha and said hi, and then Amelia came into the room. Someone had said she was a sexy librarian type, and that was the first thing that came to mind. Glasses, a big smile and a pretty face. That was until the lights go down, the clothing comes off and you discover she is a Suicide Girl in disguise. I love ladies like that. We are also exactly the same height, so I can look right into her eyes; and beautiful eyes they are. Her smile, her infectious laugh, and her easy going manner just put you right at ease. We adjourned to the room where we chatted, and shared some wine. Then it was time for my shower, so the clothes hit the floor. Me and two lovely naked ladies, curvy Sam, with large natural breasts and the lovely Amelia with her lovely bum and beautifully perky breasts. I love breasts and with these two ladies I had an incredible variety, I was in heaven. For the massage skills I must say Amelia has them. She gives a good firm massage alternated with a light touch, in the right places. Both these ladies had me actually moaning in delight on the table. I got to look in the mirror and see the incredible view of these two ladies alternating working on my back. After the flip I am not sure if I can remember it all, because my senses were overloaded. I do know that my final release was as a result of Amelia's very skilled handiwork, while Samantha distracted me in other ways. It was mind-blowing to say the least, and I know both the ladies remarked on the low growl I was making at this point. I got to finish the appointment in the shower with Amelia as we washed the oil off each other. It was an intimate moment I would definitely want to repeat. I am not sure how CMJ does it, finding all these gems. I cannot recommend Amelia enough. She looks like the girl next door, but damn, she is someone I would leave home for. I am sure it will be tough to get an appointment with her soon enough.

There has been lots of talk again recently about sp using stolen photo"s I would like to discuss stolen texts. Awhile back I reported two separate ladies who used stolen text (word for word copy paste) in there cerb advertisement. I was surprised to learn that this is NOT necessarily against cerb rules. Personally I spend little to no time on a ladies photo albums and most of my time on what they have to say in there advertising,cerb post, and web sites. I read any Reco's that they may have and how they interact with other cerb members. I use this information to see if this is someone I would like to meet and if we are compatible. So personally I feel any lady that uses a stolen text describing there personality or services offered is just as offencive and deceiving as a stolen photo just wondering how everyone else feel about this. Just a side not the two ladies that I reported for using stolen text were eventually banned for breaking other cerb rules so you can read into that what you want

I love the fact that I have no one to answer to anymore. I can come and go as I please. Hang out with the girlfriends without scheduling having to worry about someones schedule and my own. Don't get me wrong being in a relationship can be nice, if it's the right one and person for you and they can except you for who you are and you can do the same.

I use it for my notes.

The girls have done a lot of work on this, so it's time to show them the support they deserve by picking up your tickets now. Takes a lot of uncertainty for them to get the tickets out of the way. If you're sitting on the fence get them anyway, it's a good deal and pretty cheap for a well organized event

IMO it is only polite to say hello and to thank any visitors and I always do when able to. To complain that someone said hello and thank you, no solicitation type posts whatsoever. Is just plain sad. IMO. You do have the option to delete and/or not approve the message. Everyone is entitled to complain, it's human nature. I do hope that a solution that would enable each person to turn on or off this feature will be an option soon.

I am maybe impartial...but Angel's boobies :D

I have learned here that our profession is much more sophisticated and organized then what the general public realizes. That there is many more positive sides to this than the "horror" stories that the media puts out there. I also have learned that a community like this becomes more than just a job, or a place to advertise, but get real support from other's, and how important that support is to me and my well-being. I also have learned not to let other people's opinions of other people to cloud my own judgment on who they are as an individual. I love cerb:)

That's true. However, the Canadian Blood Services eliminate anyone who has had taken money for sex at any time since 1977. They also eliminate anyone who has paid money for sex. Anyone who has had sex with someone whose sexual background they didn't know is also not allowed to donate blood.

I've only been here a little while, and have so much to learn. I guess the top 2 things are: 1. This industry isn't as terrible and fundamentally exploitative as the media would lead you to believe. It's possible to reconcile a respect for women with this hobby. In fact, if you don't have a respect for women, you've got no business here. 2. Any joke I come up with, Old Dog has already made.

What freckles? lol I LOVE boobies too!!

I have a full time "other" job, I escort around my schedule so basically I have two full time jobs. I really enjoy relaxing with my clients and for me escorting is my escape from real life and the stress. Posted via Mobile Device

I appreciate your "two cents" Angela. But, If "come play soon" or "hope you come see me soon" etc, are considered soliciting then wouldn't even a simple hello be considered soliciting? From what I understand of cerb rules, to be considered soliciting you must say on their guestbook (which I have seen before...) "Hi I am available today, great rates, call me xxx-xxxx" Otherwise you are just considered to be friendly........ I have NOT and never would solicit on anybody's guestbook my availability location, services, rates or phone number. Anyway, i have never heard of any hobbiest being annoyed or feeling pressured by any lady they have recently viewed contacting them with a one liner-spread the love-type message......;) if i am wrong.....sorry gents.....its just in my nature to be super flirtatious. I have written these same message on SP's guestbooks.....I was never implying they pay me a visit........;) but....if they wanna come and play....... :) Again great job MOD on doing whatever you can with making things safer, but if someone is being stalked or harrassed to this degree the police should be involved and able to track him much faster......;) xoxoxoxoxo Come play soon to all the sexxxy cerbers!!!

Before everyone jumps to conclusions, sometimes ACRONYMS mean different things to different people. I was told it meant that when the guy is coming, he pushes down deep and holds it which some girls don't like. They prefer the guy to come and then back out before the penis becomes flacid thereby risking condom slippage. I have never been asked to do this so it is not common. So I think to most it probably means what folks are saying here. But that doesn't mean the SP's definition is the same. Some people think my COF (come on face) means CIM (come in mouth) which are same. Or that CIM (come in mouth) means swallow. I know girls who CIM, who then discretely spit it out.

I find these questions and people's responses to it fascinating. Any sexual interaction involves an element of risk and a concurrent amount of trust. The higher the risk, the more trust is required. Only the individual can decide how much risk or how little trust they can tolerate. I think it's misleading to say an SP is likely safer than someone you pick up in a bar. That depends on the SP and the bar chick. A very promiscuous woman you pick up in a bar still reasonably has far less sex and far fewer partners than an average SP. The SP is far more likely to always use protection, but that doesn't mean the bar chick doesn't. The SP quite likely gets tested regularly, but this is neither guaranteed nor does it completely discount the possibility that bar chick does too. So, do your own calculus, but based on degree of "promiscuity" the SP is the greater risk, though this is mitigated more than bar chick by the fact that self interest suggests greater responsibility with protection and testing. Figure out if you have enough trust and can accept this much risk, same as you would with bar chick. To the OP, I don't think it's any more rude than an SP or client insisting on a CBJ. In both cases, it implies that trust is lacking, which isn't entirely unreasonable. But, don't be surprised if proof cannot be provided, or if you are asked as well. What would you do if proof was not made available? If you would still go through with it, why bother asking in the first place? To the ladies, I can understand how questions like this can be perceived as insulting, but it's a result of a cultural over-awareness of sexual health issues and unfortunate stereotyping of sex workers. Putting a condom on one of us is a sign that you value your health, and asking questions simply signifies the same of us. It's ignorant, but not malicious, that a client would require greater assurances from you than from a one night stand. Until the industry is brought into more mainstream acceptance, ignorance is going to be very difficult to overcome.

sometimes being sexy hurts......

And now the winner of the Homer Simpson Lookalike Contest:

Thanks PistolPete for bringing this to our attention. Hopefully Mod can bring this feature back. It's so sad that there are the crazies out there. I'm sure there are technical reason's for not disabling the one specific profile.

I agree with what Elizabeth has said. I get tested every two months at a free clinic. The test results have no identifying information on them so, while they're meaningful to me, you would never know if they were my results or someone else's. Most independent, indoor sex workers are almost rabid about safe sex practices and won't compromise or perform bareback services for additional fees. Frankly, I'm more concerned about your experience of condom slippage. This is something your companion could not have known about in advance. Slippage usually happens when a man loses his erection, partially or fully. He may also have decreased sensation when he's softer. My very strong advice to you is to use a cock ring from now on. You can find them in adult toy stores. They come in several different configurations. Some are stretchy acrylic. Decide what you think you'll be most comfortable using. When the condom goes on, put the cock ring on next. It will hold the condom in place and it will also help you maintain your erection. However, even if you don't stay hard, the condom won't slip off. Don't be embarrassed about using a cock ring! Most of us are very familiar with them and find them to be a terrific accessory to help middle-aged and older men have a complete, fulfilling experience.

Yes, it is rude!

I find it unfortunate that the "minority" in this case can ruin things for the the majority. Peace MG

I'm a guy and I don't mind it. But, context is important. I don't have a problem with a lady acknowledging my visit to her profile and inviting me to come see her. I do have a problem if she appears out-of-the-blue on my page with an invitation to see her. This is a form of advertising and there is a special forum available for that purpose. As for the original topic. The ideal solution is to always have the visitor panel turned on and give the profile owner the ability to keep it private (only visible when viewing your own profile) or public (visible to anyone viewing your profile). A third "semi-private" option could be considered where only friends of the profile owner can see the visitor panel. It seems most (if not all) users enjoyed the private benefits of this feature (i.e. seeing who's visiting their profile and seeing how many visitors they have). The stalker issue resulted from making this information public. Perhaps then, an even simpler solution would be to provide no optionality and just enable the visitor panel as a private feature (i.e. only visible to the profile owner).

Back in 2009, there was a particular sp, from another site, she was never a cerb member..used to make it a point to cut & paste from MY AD every single day for like a month straight.... The frustration I endured from this was rather stressful, because I would always take the time to create text that would REPRESENT ME AND TO INDICATE all the positive's of spending time WITH a lady such as myself...then some lazy chick wakes up, scrolls through the ads and just cuts & pastes it into hers, BTW I find that to be a very strong indication of the type of service you will be in for , IMO. For example, first thing I always indicate is just how busty I am :boobies:...so when she would copy and paste from my ads, ( she was a B-cup ) nothing wrong with a beautiful :boobies: b-cup, but sorta silly to introduce yourself as super busty, IMO> Anyways, finally made it a point to make a little note in one of my ads, addressed to my follower, saying this: "Hey so & so ( WON'T NAME HER on here, but did so in my ad ;)) from the (her area of town), did you get all that??? Now hurry up and cut & paste my text like your illiterate & simple minded self has been doing for the past month!!!!!! "" And it worked!!!! I guess I embarrassed her.... Harsh perhaps...But the shaming worked :biggrin: I then noticed she moved on to other ladies from other cities,,,,,she was so off on her game that she would copy & paste from ads that were in an area in CALIFORNIA!!!!!! AND she would leave the dam area in her ad, in OTTAWA, AND SHE WOULD LEAVE THE ORIGINAL LADY'S NAME IN IT TOO :bigclap:

Keep in mind that a touring lady bears the expense of touring, not the gentlemen. She has to pay for airline tickets, hotels, meals (and sometimes lost luggage)...actually considering the cost of touring, gentlemen should appreciate that ladies don't raise their rates when touring. And the cost of touring I can appreciate, as I drive depending on city, anywhere from two and half to three and half/four hours, in my truck, which is a pig on gas...my travel costs, about $80-$100. If the expectation is reduced donation when touring a less affluent area of the country, then my question back, why should a lady tour when her income will be substantially reduced...and this is her livelihood. As for blowing a weeks pay, if you can't afford to participate in this lifestyle, maybe you shouldn't. This should be done with disposable income. And the lady, this is her livelihood. She shouldn't be expected to subsidize a gentleman's lifestyle, nor travel at her expense for reduced income Some thoughts RG

If marriage was the great end all that the majority of society makes it out to be, why is there a roughly 50% divorce rate...hardly what one would call a success story And I know a lot more people in unhappy marriages (part of the other 50%)...there has got to be nothing more lonely than being married to someone you don't love, nor want to be around Some ramblings from a single guy RG

interesting. I always thought that was a cute gesture :confused0024:

In my opinion stolen words are just as bad as stolen photos. It's deception and it's wrong, the words used to describe one provider cannot possibly be used to describe another. One of the more poorly run "agencies" in town here in Ottawa that I've nailed for using fake photos in the past recently started to use real pictures but has begun to use stolen text. In the last two months I've documented this along with 3 other indies in Ottawa that have done the same. http://www.cowboysdiary.info/wordpress/?p=2806 http://www.cowboysdiary.info/wordpress/?p=2834 In this posting in the comments section you'll see the failed agency's defence for using stolen words, unfreakinig believable : http://www.cowboysdiary.info/wordpress/?p=2930 In a lot of cases the descriptions aren't even close and in the agency's case the girls aren't even aware of what's been posted. I've heard all the excuses about language, i'm not a good writer etc... the fact is some one else took the time to create the original ad and did so to describe themselves. Often these descriptions are quite personal in nature and make mention of likes and dislikes but aren't revised or edited. The description gives the reader a sense of who they might meet and who they are as a person but then when they meet they are nothing like the wrote or described.

I am open to this change up! Although, I do work with some boundaries. I can provide a massage with a hand job release at the beginning and after the massage session or just one in the beginning or ending. http://laramassage.webs.com/ [email protected] - Lara

Too hard to pick one favorite! Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd The Ballad Of Dwight Fry - Alice Cooper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVxr63WaRrs Iron Man - Black Sabbath http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MII3ns2KTBc For Those About To Rock (We Salute You) - AC/DC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shcI6vE-PlE Three Angels - The Headstones Not a big fan of country music, growing up as a little "Fort" before I grew into the "Castle" that I am today, that's all I was exposed to. In my household everything else was "the devil's music"....and it bored. The. SHIT...of me! So when I heard the dark nature of the lyrics in this Johnny Cash song...it literally blew my mind. Opened up a whole new world of music for me...until then I didn't know songs were even allowed to have dark lyrics about ghosts in the skies chasing demonic red eyed cows on horses snorting fire. This song actually gave me nightmares. I shit you not. And I wanted MORE! :D So even though I'm not a country fan per se....this still remains one of my favorite songs: Ghost Riders In The Sky