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At first, I wasn't going to comment on this but I feel like I have to. Where to start? First, let's be open and honest here: the gentlemen who have encountered these situations in the past most likely didn't deal with reputable ladies; a reputable lady would not do false advertising or post fake pictures and have a guy hidden in the closet to take your money in case you wanted to break the engagement for a legitimate reason(s). Ask yourself this: why the need for a guy in a closet in the first place? Because it was a scam from the start! If everyone did their homework and took the time to research the lady they wanted to spend time with before scheduling a rendez-vous these things would not be happening to them. Furthermore, if those gentlemen enjoy taking chances with someone from CL (or the likes) and absolutely have zero information on the said lady, well... (fill in the blank). TOFT can be great at times but it can also be risky! Up to you to decide which risks and situations you are willing to deal with. Note: I'm not saying that everyone who used to advertise on CL was a B&S or did false advertising and used fake pictures. My point is that those sites earned their reputation for a reason. I have no idea why you would assume that a lady who offers incalls as an option to their gentlemen would automatically be considered a high volume provider (Who says that the young lady who just visitied you at your home didn't just see 9 other gentlemen in the same day before you?) Some of us only indulged in quality over quantity and much prefer longer engagements over the short ones. Again, up to you to do your research to see who you are going to be meeting with. As far as cleanliness is concerned: I find it quite 'insulting' (for a lack of a better word) to see that our cleanliness standards might not be equal or as high (if not higher) as yours. For example, I entertain at my hotel suite when I travel and would never consider reusing the same bed linens if I were to see another gentleman on the same day. Do I change the whole bed? NO! I put a clean and fresh flat sheet on top of the duvet. Once my rendez-vous is over I take it off and put another clean one on top. I will also change the pillow cases, empty the garbage cans, clean the shower and toilet... Clean and fresh and unused bath towels will also be available... Sometime it is very difficult to not take something personal when so many misconceptions transpire within certain posts.

If you only do outcalls.. How do you know all SP/MP's incall locations are dark, run down, dirty linens and filthy with bed bugs? I respect the fact you like your own space and to set your own environment if you feel non-alcoholic beverages, chocolates and music make you feel it is a date rather then paid encounter. But please don't portray incall locations as messy and unkept filthy dumps. Above all possibly dangerous...

Are you serious? This is not the way for an SP to run her business as she may face the possibility of other guys finding out. The only way would be to put him in the bad date list. If someone has done something that justifies being in there, then they have screwed themselves over in the future to see other reputable ladies as many of us know each other. It is one thing to suggest this but if you put yourself in that situation, I'm sure you'd be freaking out. Unless he has done something REALLY bad ( and I'm not justifying this guy's actions) but discretion is key and there are many other ways to screw over a guy who has jerked you around. It's called confronting him on the spot demanding to be paid for her time, karma will get him in time and being posted on the bad date list. Many of us ladies are not rats and we do not use blackmail tactics and leave personal lives out of a business transaction in the SP-client relationship. Rest assured, I would never out a guy to his wife. There are other ways to deal with it.

Hello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)

I prefer hosting. As it gives me the chance to set the mood and the tone of the date. Also I feel more comfortable in my own environment. You never know what you could be walking into. As well as if I host I do not have to worry if I am over staying my welcome. As I do not like to feel as I am rushing out. Therefore if at my place, the ball is in my companies hand.

I agree with Mmad. There's ladies here that do tantric and are reputable. I've heard from a few clients about this one. You'll find everything you need here. Good luck and welcome!

I read all the threads carefully that SA recommended and can honestly say I'm a better person and more educated than I was 2 hours ago. The depth of knowledge, understanding of the issues and experience surrounding the topic evidenced by all the contributors is to be commended. Thank you one and all!

I can recommend, that you turn in by 8pm on your first evening, don't nap on the plane, avoid alcohol and walk on a treadmill for at least 30mins after you arrive. As well pick up spme melatonin. Take it 2 days prior to leaving at night before you go to bed and for the first 2-3 days of your trip.

Getting free tickets to Jeff Beck who played the NAC this evening and attending it with a very appreciative girlfriend of mine. It was awesome! Thanks again to the CERB member who couldn't use them.

Are two ties better than one??

If ever there were any doubts, our very own Carley Chase puts those doubts to rest with this sexy pic...with her blessing...and my thanks :p

You ignore these requests. They are simply wasting your time. Or you simply say there will be no more pics, and leave it at that. And you provide discretion and therefor require it, so you are not going to provide a face pic for any reason. To see you, they need to commit and show up so that both of you have better reasons for privacy and discretion. (I tell enquirers asking for more pics that if pics are their sole reason for booking appts, I am not the one for them. I require someone who puts a little more thought into their sessions). You don't have to do anything, in some cases these requests are testing you to see how far you will go. In this biz, being too accomodating, past your own comfort level is a bad thing. For a newer sp, it is dangerous. I know this is an old post, but what you really need to do is spend some time reading many topics in the lounge, the new section, the ads, etc, and learn all the things in a short time that it took some clients and sps years to figure out. It will benefit you in the long run, and keep you safe, and keep you happier doing the work when you learn how to advertise and screen to attract the sort of clients that are going to be the best match for what you provide.

Don't forget to pick up more Zombie survival techniques with the return of The Walking Dead tomorrow night!

I know we all enjoy the beauty of discrecion and pricavy in this community, but this client has crossed the line. If this client is married, and you now know where he works....the threat of sharing with his SO may be enough for him to correct his error in judgement. Sometimes, leverage can be a powerful motivator...just sayin'. Sorry to hear about your troubles, stay safe. E.

More underboob:

Was into Barbs last week after at least a year of absence. Still some smoking hot babes. Caught the end of the day shift and there was a nice blonde there as well as a nice looking chocolate babe. Barbs is running at a lower mileage rate these days but its all good.

Spanking can be fun! If it's light and playful, a little tickling and teasing, or hard, and you hear that *Thwap* when the hand(or whatever) connects. It can be very exciting. I've even been known to give my guests a love tap or two on their way to the shower post main event.:icon_twisted:....... But I'm always gentle, hehehe

I give the guy credit for trying something new and taking a risk, even if he failed. He may not know it, but he learned something. Practice makes perfect. Samantha I don't really know you or what you're like, but if you like the guy and care, maybe invite him back to try again....if he invested money in his equipment I'm sure he'll want to use it. I know I've felt like a failure many times trying new things, and it's not just bdsm things I'm referring to...all aspects of life. You just have to keep trying until you get it right. If you know what you want, you have to keep that goal in sight. Help him out, give him a nudge, I know it always helps me. I remember a girl laughing at me as I tried to tie her up and she slipped out of my ropes too easily. I was so embarrassed but you know what? My knots got better.

I absolutely love Claire with her uber-red hair these days - it really suits her

As my hips are raising, brushing against my pussy lips, licking my clitoris. The feeling of your tongue licking in the upwards motion all around. My body is in ecstasy, in awe of the pleasurable feeling, recieving. Touching and feeling myself, my breasts. Licking me softly and shifting to various levels of your licks against my clit. Soft, deep, and hard. Feeling the penetration of your longue tongue as it elongates itself deep within the tight walls of my vagina, my juices. Tasting me, my taste is of strawberry cream. Indulging in this delectable sundae as we find true gratification in this experience of ours. Moving in a circular spirally motion as my hips move to the movement between your tongue and my labia. Our music. Gentle bites and kisses. Holding me up, sliding down, finding my ass with a quick probe and lick. The insatiable spasm of the sensations encountering the subterranean. Sucking, blood rushing, touching while feeling the broadened chest pressing against me with my legs wrapped around his face. Older and mature he is, who knows what to do to me in my bedroom. As we go, one, two and three times. Sealing till there is no end, the pleasure abounds in this frenziedly euphoria. Converging on my clit, coming to the brink. The adrenaline rushing deep within my viens in the excitement, the orgasmic thrill erupting my cum juice all over, splashing onto his face. Squirting into infiniteness to my homecoming with my butterfly as we have entered our sunrise that has just began. Face flushed, silence is broken, and now I wait as my wish becomes granted.

I trace a line down from your navel, careful to stop short of my next journey. My tongue once again follows that line, your hips rise. Reaching up your inner thigh, lightly drawing the tips of my fingers towards your groin, moving along the edge of your panties up to your hip, I follow across, slipping my finger under the band until I touch your other hip. This time as I draw my fingers down your groin I brush against your lips, just enough, but don't stop there. I lick along that same path, pulling at the lace with my teeth on one side, hooking my fingers on the other side, slowly pulling your panties down, careful not to touch you. Holding your panties I run them between your legs, drag them across your body, the cool shear fabric causing your nipples to strain more as they respond to the satin touch. And now I start, lowering myself into position, my tongue licks each side of your pussy lips. You spread your legs, allowing for more access, pleasure growing. Moans tell me my efforts are appreciated. Up one side down the other, tongue reaching, settling for a moment so close to your ass, a quick stab and then a repeat. Nibbling the soft tissue that protects your most sensitive parts. My fingers join in, lightly brushing over the top of your mound. Gently I part your lips, nudging ever so slightly my nose against your clit. I lap the juices lying between your outer and inner lips, both slides, slowly, ensuring every drop has been tasted. Once agian you raise your hips, arching your back pushing yourself at me, wanting me to finally attack your clit. I reach under you with my hands, hold you up, slide down and find your ass with my tongue as I spread you open and reach my target. A quick probe causes you to pull back slightly, then you relax, I come back for more. The nerves around your anus cause it to spasm with each probe and lick. You gyrate up and down on my tongue as I cover you with licks, gentle bites and kisses. You pull your knees to your chest affording me full opportunity to devour you, the energy building, both of our hearts pounding, our bodies flush and warm. Your pussy is dripping, I lick upward, I lick again, moving higher with each taste of your juices, moving past your entrance, but stopping first to reach inward wanting to feel inside your pussy with my tongue. My nose once again brushes your clit as I move up. Once, twice, three times my tongue laps at your clit. With my thumb on the top of the skin that covers your clit I pull back, the hood uncovering and exposing your blood filled and swollen button. Now I drag the flat of my tongue up across the entire area exposed. When I reach the fold of skin, I come back down with the bottom of my tongue. I repeat this, slow, then fast, soft then hard. Each time I come back down, my tongue settles deep into your pussy and the tempo heats up. Next my mouth seals the area around your clit, both of my hands have pulled back your lips firmly leaving your clit protruding and erect. With the area sealed I suck, just enough to help the blood rush to your clit, and while this seal is applied my tongue feverishly laps, sensing your clit enlarging, filling with blood, nerve endings totally exposed. You feel it, a rush through your body, converging on your clit, each lick bringing it closer, faster until the juices flow freely from your pussy and finally everything erupts, your orgasm causes you to hold your breath and convulse as the passion explodes from within. I kiss around your groin, in appreciation of your pleasure, softly, slowly as your passion subsides, but your sensitivity still at unbelievable level. Your face is flushed with sexual satisfaction, your heart is racing, you lay back, it is quiet, we savour the moment of bliss. Soft candle light flickers across your body. A warm glow is cast upon your beauty. Finally silence is broken, a demand is made, and once again I strive to meet your insatiable desire and lust.

Yep, on both counts, and very creeping in this case:

Awww.... I am a clown.

It's not just BDSM that can go wrong this way: every aspect of sex (and other things in life) can collapse and tumble into that yawning chasm between expectation and practical reality. For virgins, it's sex, period: it's supposed to go wonderfully and smoothly like in all the movies, but in reality knees and elbows and things start getting in the way. You lean on her long hair and she can't lift her head. You find out you can't actually bend that way, or you're not quite coordinated enough to do THIS and THAT at the same time. It can be frustrating, disappointing, and spoiled. Even for the experienced, it happens commonly with fetishes. Like simple sex is for the virgin, a fetish is an obsession nursed for a lifetime before that moment, with little scenarios lived and re-lived countless times in the fetishist's imagination. You can bring a partner somewhat up to speed with good communication, but some parts of what a fetishist is after can remain mystifying and really, even the most caring partner is unlikely to match the detailed script and knowing ease of fantasy partners. It's something that has to be learned over time, and adapted to fit REAL people instead of fantasies. BDSM falls into the same zone as fetishes of course: it's intimacy carried out in the context of dense symbols and deep, subconscious triggers and meanings. And the solution is the same here as it is for virgins, or fetishists: take it slow, build up an understanding (for you and your partner) of how things really work, and start to adapt your expectations to match what you're learning in real life. Eventually, you build a bridge from your side outward as you acquire practical experience. And you build a bridge from the other side towards you, as you adapt your idealized expectations and incorporate some of the new and exciting real-world stuff you've learned. I think you're bang on, Samantha, that your client was too heavily invested in the other side of the chasm: how things SHOULD be, in an elaborate scenario he had fixed in his mind but wasn't equipped to act out yet. There was no line connecting that, with his present self. Some things you need to LEARN, and can't just do at the drop of a hat. You've gotta take it in little steps until the gap closes from both sides of that gulf.* I've been lucky enough to have eased gently into many of my favourite little pet fantasies, and got all the way to the deep end after a few sessions, with some talented and insightful SPs. Not so much luck through the decades when I've tried things in my "real" relationships, though. * I'm reminded of a friend who, when she had her first child, was distraught that she didn't "get" how to breast-feed the instant she first held her infant son. She figured it out of course, but it didn't happen in that dreamy, effortless perfection that she imagined it would go. This is an issue with LOTS of things besides sex. It's a problem most especially in things that are heavily charged with meaning for us, whatever those things may be.

if u mind your P's and Q's it dosent really matter where u live.Some hoods are going to be more tolarant then others.Its not like Jane and Finch or East Vancouver