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A special..it's a fake ad..My fees are on my website and in my ads here Since this morning I have received a lot of texts and emails for " my special at 80/hh 160/h for newfies" I have requested the admin to remove that fake ad without any success at this time Again this is a fake ad posted by a lady..My fees on my ads here and website is what is accurate plus I would never use the word newfies Again my apologies for anyone that got mislead by that fake ad VJ

1. You don't 2. Like you want to pay for the (free) test available to everyone? how's that going to work. You understand it takes a week for results, during which time sps are seeing other clients? Or are you saying you are willing to take her out of the work place, paying for her entire week's income while you both wait for the results. And when you do get them/see them, what is the kind of services you expect now that you 'know'. Oh and, what are you doing during all this wait time?? Got your results in hand, and a guarantee of not doing or seeing anyone? 3. NO, no amount of advice on how to 'get it done' will replace my answer #2 lol 4. I hope not. It is a very manipulative thing for any client to require, and a very useless thing for an sp to present anyway (see #2) When was your last test, and what is your sexual history since then btw, and going back to #2 what kind of services are you expecting from this sp with the clean test results?

Absolutely inappropriate and insulting if you asked a lady for her test results, or if she is D&D free. Just as it would be equally inappropriate and insulting for her to ask you for your test results and if you are D&D free YOUR SEXUAL HEALTH IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY Up to you to get yourself tested But asking a lady about her test results and health status will likely end up in you being declined a date RG

I may have missed the point of this thread but I kinda thought that no one was saying there should be a forced set price that everyone had to follow just sort of suggesting that it was probably in the interest of all SP'S that rates remain high and that people don't just start under cutting each other. I don't think any set rate would ever work and there is way to many reasons why people set the rates they do to expect uniformity... i fully agree that each SP has to set their own rate but reminding oneself that the rate you set may affect others is not necessarily a bad thing either. Just my opinion.

That would be a very, very good idea. Not to set or enforce prices; but to provide support to every single provider, so that they can be informed and market-savvy and each set the highest price that works for them.

Hmmm. A visit to the doctor for blood tests every 3-6 months could potentially result in a 3-6 month backlog of people that the Health Department has to call on your behalf. This will not look good on a resume. In Vegas. England, etc. the trip to the doctor is made once a month, if not more often (I have heard of once a week). My MD is very supportive, and once a month - or less - is no problem. I personally would be very cautious about a new client demanding BBBJ's during the first few visits. It's not the only fun with your gun. I want to have a limited number of clients and let things evolve. Besides, there are some very creative and salacious activities one can enjoy with a covered cap......but that's another thread! Cheers, Ann

Lots of great advice on this thread. If you have a good, sex positive doctor then absolutely, talk to them about STI risks. Just be aware that not all doctors are sex positive and many of them are woefully misinformed about sexual health (70 years old, hasn't read a damned thing about sexual health since med school), and so your doctor might actually not be the best source of info when it comes to sexual health. I would suggest going down to Nine Circles for testing and having a chat with an STI nurse about your concerns. You an also call the Sexual Health Info Line, which is staffed by Health Educators. It's confidential and they'll answer any sexual health questions you might have. (I can't get their site to load right now, but the number can be found at ninecircles.ca) I really think there's a lot of value in talking to a sex positive health professional, in addition to doing your own reading on the internet. Because written information is usually presented in isolation, and risk are talked about in percentages or even worse, vague terms ("high"... "low"... what do those actually mean?) it can be really hard to put things in perspective and figure out how to view risks around sexual health in a reality centred way. I very often see people either dismissing risks or getting far more stressed out and fearful about them than they need to be.

:boobeyes:So yeah...naughty sites so my own fault. Got a popup that looked exactly like a legit Microsoft box. It said a program wanted to change Windows file run dot dll. Strangely it said the author was certified to be Microsoft. Good thing I did not click "Yes"!!! The window would not go away even though I clicked "No" and tried closing the box. suddenly up pops a new page...the notorious spoof police page that says your computer is now locked and you need to pay a fine of $100 to unlock it. It looks fairly official and might scare some into sending the money. Lots of police logos and Criminal Code quotes about forbidden content etc. There is no way to close the page. Your comp IS locked. I unplugged my internet connection PHYSICALLY and turned of the computer with the on/off switch. Turned on and ran every antivirus onboard, no sign of any threat. Machine is running fine now, or so it seems. Takeaway from this is: 1: if you get a popup about making changes to run dot dll immediately disconnect your machine from the net. 2: never use wifi for any dodgy sites. NEVER. If I had been using wifi I would not have been able to disconnect because the computer was locked. 3: have another comp you can use to change all your passwords to accounts. If mine is still hacked I can at least reformat. I am a bit worried that the virus might catch my passwords so will reformat. When I started up I got a box saying that the crd dot dll file could not be found, another box that the crd program could not start. These are the programs the hackers use to collect your money. So hopefully their program was not fully installed. Effin hackers. :spank:

Just to chime in here for a quick second. I normally will exchange numbers to text and book an appointment, my latest arrangements were through email only, and I can honestly say, it has been a first in the longest time. It worked out perfectly, even right to the 5 minute mark before the appointment to get proper instructions for room number etc etc. In today's world everyone has a smart phone, probably with email, so it works just as efficient as texting. I have never had an issue, furthermore, I won't get uptight if there is no response after my first sent email, as some or most ladies have other jobs/school OR that they are busy with their own life. The key is to be polite, word your words properly, and things always work out if you act like a gentleman by your first impressions.

Call me naive if you want but I would think that if there was any health issues that could be passed along to the gentleman, I would hope the lady would bring it up. The same for the gentleman visiting... If he had any issues I would hope that he let the lady know about it. STD, hepatitis etc.... I believe that we trust each other enough without having to see any health certificate or other health form.... Just saying!

I personally, as a cbj provider, a cbj advertiser, and giving a cbj on first visits, resent being asked this before, during or after a session, or even as a prelude to booking a 2nd appt, like when someone calls to see if i'm available, sets up an appt, and while on the phone might ask this. It is a clear case, to me, of carrot dangling, a lure that this guy is not going to show up or book another appt unless they get that bbbj. if you see someone who advertises cbj, and provided it in session, without the pressure of someone asking for more and possibly doing it out of concern for losing the appt, don't ever ask for more. An sp who makes exceptions will let you know. If you expect or need more than what is freely provided, just do not book the appt in the first place if you expect that her advertised restrictions are not restrictions at all.

Another tech tip for you... ALT+F4 will close the current window. Most of those pop up viruses/malware will run whether you click yes, no or the X. So don't do any of the above. Press Alt-F4 and voila. Window gone. You're welcome. Happy porn-ing!!!!

Absolutely ask! It is indeed down to scheduling: she may have other bookings or she may be able to spend more time with you. Don't know if you don't ask! :)

I Don't Want Your Pity: Sex Work and Labor Politics By Belle Knox http://www.huffingtonpost.com/belle-knox/sex-work-politics_b_5148528.html

Hmm, in a way I could say it also doesn't matter, but I don't think I'd mean it in the same way others have said. For me I don't have a preference between tall or short because I find each very attractive in different ways. I'm on the lean side but quite tall myself, and having a lady that actually comes close to my height is a thrill. There's something nice about not having to hunch over to enjoy a kiss, to wrap your arms around someone and feel them pressing along your whole body, and who wouldn't want a little extra leg to explore? But there's also something I find alluring about shorter ladies as well that I can't quite put my finger on. It's just a different sort of appeal but just as strong. In any event, I wouldn't say height is the prime factor in my attraction. I've found, for me, that whatever a person's body type there is invariably something (or somethings!) appealing and desirable, and each can be so much fun. And at the end of the day there's no one thing that makes a person more attractive and sexy than the right attitude (though I'm shallow enough to admit that I don't mind if that good personality happens to be matched by nice breasts... :redface:).

I had the pleasure visiting Delilah, again. The passion, lust, the erotic pleasure, that we had the first time, quickly grew into a very hot, raw session this second time around. I had a dream, a fantasy of sorts about us, I told Delilah through email, that dream,fantasy. It was played out, I kinda caught her off guard when I told her to go ahead and open some small gifts and a Easter card. My fantasy,dream had so much sexual desire, there is nothing like playing out a scene that you have in your head, and it becomes reality especially with a beautiful looking woman. Small hint, as I pushed her up against the wall, and ripped down her panties... :) I will leave the rest to your imagination, all I know is this, I will and have a smile on my face, and Im sure that it will remain for the long week-end. I look forward to our next time together as apparently Delilah has something planned for myself. ;) Thanks again Delilah, it was pure pleasure.

I was going to write something about compassion and this industry, above and beyond free market theory, and then MigthyPen said it more eloquently than I could ever do. I, too, believe compassion should be a part of this industry and our topics of discussion.

We are independent contractors. Unless you are with an agency or a pimp. Other independent contractors have similar issues with undercutting prices.. Ask anyone who works in a trade. Be it painting houses, paving driveways, building a deck... Even holistic practitioners, massage therapists, hair dressers... I'm quite sure there's no union or industry minimum for those and several other independent contractor jobs. The proposition of an industry standard is the pipe dream.. very unrealistic in my opinion. One of the best parts of my job is that I'm completely my own boss.... I do not want anyone dictating to me that I can't work for my own set price that I decide I am choosing. While I have chosen a minimum time that I will book for a client of 30 min.. I have in the past done 15 min appts. I even have had one regular who after booking his initial time for my min came back to see me several times.. but since he was a minimum wage worker and literally was in and out in one song I didn't have the heart to charge him more than $50.. In a set price model would I have to charge him more now? or do this behind the back of whomever is telling me the price I can charge? THAT right there takes away my freedom to be my own boss. No thanks!

For me, there are a couple different angles to this question. First, there are circumstances that can impact erections and ejaculation. This is more of a norm now than an anomaly. Unfortunately, it depends on the gentleman in question. For me, a session can be about far more than whether you get off or not. Again, this can depend on the gentleman. Some are here to have a great time and get off, some are in it for the connection, snuggles, kisses and the whole gamut of pleasures. If the gentleman is not comfortable with whatever issue might be happening whether medical, age, lack of sleep, stress etc. and make it about cumming, then if it is not achieved, it does make me feel less than stellar. Especially when I know they are disappointed whether it is stated or not. If the gentleman goes with the flow and is comfortable with it and it becomes about more than an orgasm, then as long as he leaves with a smile, I feel good. There are also those who know and/or push their own limits. IE: just one more. If this happens, great but again, if it becomes a case of trying too hard and not achieving then I do feel badly because they are not leaving with a smile. The bottom line is leaving and feeling good. If someone allows an orgasm to impact this then there is a chance they are not leaving happy. I am not going to delude myself that many times, the lady is blamed for that. I know there are ladies who feel they are instruments of pleasure and there to facilitate but not to be responsible for, yet in the situation, it is difficult not to be impacted by normal human emotions. Personally, if someone is comfortable in their own body and the good and bad that comes with that, whether you can or can't has no impact on my view of them. People and sex are about more than an orgasm.

One thing that really shocks me is that when I get tested every 3 months if not more if I feel there might have been a risk, I put the results of my test on the bed for a while and the gentlemen cumming at my place don't even take a look at it and put the paper aside!!!!!!!!!! Now that strucked me!!!! Anyway as some ladies R saying one day U can be cleaned and the other U catch something that will take time to show up. But SPs R definitely the cleanest ladies U can find darling! We care about our bodies very much since our profession depends on being clean to be able to work again and keep our clientèle wether it be regulars or new cummers chéri. Wishing U lots of safe fun babe!

A clean bbbj is an oxymoron. Mouths are notoriously full of all kinds of microscopic wigglies. There are many providers to choose from who offer the service; many of them will be std/sti free but you can't tell who is and who isn't. There is no "on the spot" test to see if at this moment something lurks in her throat. Christy is right, this is something you have to educate yourself on. Speak with your doctor, read the public health information and then think on the best choice for your situation. What I will suggest is that when you find the provider, don't ask "Are you clean?". It's not a good way to start off an experience. My second suggestion is that when the "Oh my God, what have I done?" wave hits you afterwards, don't contact your provider asking if you should go get tested... cat

Ladd, Cheryl From her days on Charlie's Angels and now RG

wish I knew how to do it but Melodie's pics are more than worthy of noting as a spectacular booty. yummy and oh so tempting. Spank-a-licious

I just heard back from admin and it got remove..while I would love to be optimistic I strongly believe that other ad may get post Anyone that see suspicious ads please pm me thanks again everyone VJ

There's an old farmer saying...."it ain't the size of it, it's how you use it." Old farmers are sage. In other words, it doesn't matter who you are- it's how you are.

Question for all you wonderful CERB ladies..... What do you think when you have a session with a client and he does not Cum. I am asking this because while I partake fairly often in this hobby and have met a number of wonderful CERB ladies who have provided me with excellent Service and I have enjoyed every minute of every session.... i don't always Cum. I have a few medical issues that I take medication for and I have always attributed the less than stellar finish to be a side effect. For me personally it has never really been an issue... like I said I have enjoyed every minute of my time with the ladies and always leave feeling happy. What I want to know is what do the ladies think.... Just looking for your opinion....

At the end of the day, if a client doesn't like a lady's preferred method of communication, or response times, they should simply move on. There are lots of providers, and lots of different business models. If a lady has a particular model, and it works for her, well that really is the end of it. I assume if it wasn't working for her, she would change it. Porthos

I was wondering the same thing ,looks almost TGTBT...

You can't look at this business as a by-the-hour salary. We don't work eight hours a day, five days a week. The time and money that goes into replying to message boards, replying to emails, posting ads, taking phone calls, self-care/hygiene, photo shoots, the cost of maintaining an incall or transportation to outcalls, website upkeep, travel costs for touring etc. eats into that "per hour" figure as well. This business also ebbs and flows, and there are downtimes that balance out busy periods. We don't have sick time or vacation pay. Yes, this can be a very touchy subject, especially when there are assumptions made. Additional Comments: 1. They're not "selling themselves". We sell a service, not our bodies. Let's not use the same language abolitionist groups use when creating moral panic and conflating human trafficking with sex work. 2. "Too cheap" -- according to whom? There are many reasons why someone chooses to set their rates at what they are, and quite honestly, it's not up to us to judge. There is no regulatory board that oversees our industry. To some people, my rates can be "too high" or "too low". To that, I say that is none of your business. It's MY business. My rates have increased since I started in this business, as I figured out what my expenses were and how often I wanted to work. They are at a price-point which allows me to see the clients I want to see while maintaining a modest lifestyle and going to school. It has afforded me some opportunities I wouldn't ordinarily have, like buying my first car, but at the same time, I don't feel I am living an extravagant lifestyle (it was a great deal on a used car). There is always going to be someone with lower rates or higher rates than you. That is how this business, and all businesses work. Stop looking at other providers and comparing yourself to them; concentrate on your own self. It's not a matter of "s/he's stealing clients from me", IMHO, but rather "what am *I* doing to attract and retain clients?" 3. Let's not make assumptions about what a "lower" price-point implies, especially when it's making potentially stigmatizing and dangerous statements about having a pimp or drug addiction. We don't know their situation. I'm honestly quite surprised that this thread is still going on, just as I was surprised to see in another thread a provider pose the question of someone she had never met being underage. Statements like the ones in this thread have the possibility of impacting someone else's business and well-being, and not in a good way.

I'm curious, why are you taking things this personally. If it is, as you say, business is business, why do you then turn around and talk about thoughts and feelings. If you send an email, get no response, well move on. I could somewhat understand if you develop a connection with a lady that you have seen, and continue to see, and then she wishes to no longer see you, talking about thoughts and feelings. But to contact a SP for an encounter and she doesn't reply, just move on. Honestly, bringing feelings for someone you haven't met strikes me as somewhat strange. Unless there is something more to your post you haven't shared. And if you are getting a steady pattern of no responses to your emails, maybe look at the emails you send. Is there something in the way you write that might concern the lady enough that she might just prefer not to see you, and not reply to your email RG

I spent some very, very sexy time with Sofia last night. Sensuous touch, fantastic massage combined with smooth & soft skin made for an amazing hour. The time went by so fast, I definitely did not want it to end. Sofia is a beautiful, tall and smart Spanish beauty.

With respect, I really don't understand what the first part of your post has to do with this thread. Yes, sadly, there exists exploitation and harms within the industry; however, there exists the same within any other industry. I don't see why this was brought into the conversation.

Not sure "cheap" is the issue here. In my mind, asking for a few dollars change fails the "consideration and respect" test by refocusing the encounter in an uncomplimentary light. Yes, of course money is part of the equation, but not the part that makes it memorable - and worth doing. I would personally never put myself (or the SP) in such a position. IMHO, asking for change demonstrates a disturbing lack of forethought and consideration.

Of course they do. It is definitely a case-by-case basis. I also have clients with disabilities (both visible and invisible) and their disposable income is limited. Some of my clients save for upwards of a year to be able to afford to come and see me. Never has one of these clients asked for change, or come unprepared for our meeting. In fact, there is quite a lot of preparation that goes into these encounters (both on my part, and on the part of my client). I'm sorry you feel a lot of the generalizations in this thread are judgmental and unkind. I can definitely see how that could come across but I don't agree that the judgments are necessarily negative. Feeling uncomfortable in these situations is a very real feeling, and we all have knee-jerk reactions to the intersections of intimacy and money which may or may not be rational. Of course, if I knew one of my clients was in dire financial situations I would not judge him or her for asking for their $10. I would, however, take offense to someone who was not in dire financial need who did the same. These are all case-by-case situations, of course, and the OPs initial question was, after all, asking for a general idea of what peoples reactions would be (not specifics). I think Porthos' post gets at the core of the issue quite well, and so I won't repeat it.

I will just clarify my rep comment for PP's post: get yourself tested before you see any sps. You could be a carrier, and if you go to see one of these mythical unicorn's called the 'std free guarantee card holding sp" don't be the guy who transmits something to her because you spent so much time searching for her you couldn't be bothered to check yourself out first. The first guy with an untreated std who walks in to see one of these sps (who provides those bbbjs) is putting her at risk. You can decide if he came to see her an hour before you did, a week, or an hour or a week after you did. You can decide if you were the one leaving her with an std, and gave it to him because you didn't get yourself checked out first. :D

Cleaner than the rest? No one is going to show anyone health records and realistically after having a clean test the next one might not be and in that time a man might have been with 4-6-10 girls, so how would he know which one was guilty? As Lee Richards said maintain your own health, learn all you need to know and play as safe as you see fit, or don't play at all. Life is full of risks, you'll never be 100% assured of anything other than you're going to die at some point and your taxes are due by end of April yearly;), lol.

Actually we do :) A group of cryptographers announced over a year ago that they had "owned" at least 20% of all the private keys from major sites and many others by using various techniques and speculated that if they had the resources of the NSA they could easily achieve close to 100%. They even set up a web site where you could go and upload your public key to see if they had the corresponding private key in their "collection" :) Do you really think the NSA invests all those resources, time, energy and money so they can monitor encrypted gobbledygook? Even though SSL won't stop the NSA from listening in if they want to, it is pathetic that CERB can't invest $30/year (I just bought one for $30) for a "trusted" SSL cert and do and automatic http -> https redirect to protect the naive CERB ladies using hotel Wifi from casual eavesdroppers. And if the MOD should read this and be insulted he need only drop me a note and I'll send along the $30 his way if he'll agree to do this (even though they once posted an annual budget in the hundred thousand dollar range).

Probably been stated before but.... Endless emails with questions easily answered by viewing a lady's website. There is nothing that kills the mood more quickly than someone who cannot take the time to take a simple trip to a given website. Sure, I would love to get to know you but really, only after you have taken the time to know wether you really want to know me!

Yup, your profile is perfectly clear. I love the dominate tone to the message and almost called while reading. By-the-way, how much for a HH anal... Sorry had to do it, you can spank me when we meet.

I don't think there is anything more you need to do because it's not about what you're not doing it's what they're( the perspective clients) not doing correctly. There are some guys that just don't bother to read anything, they just look at pictures then call and when they call they'll ask you every question that is answered on your site or profile page. There are also guys that no matter how much you put in print they'll read it then do as they please. Then there are those guys:) we all love who just do everything right. They follow our booking protocols and requests to a T. Just ignore most of the time wasters and tire kickers and eventually you'll gain your following, it just takes time and some days a lot of patience. Best of luck:) If I may-I would suggest you add the www. to your web address at the bottom as the link to your site doesn't work for me, unless I'm doing something wrong, if so my apologies.

Good Morning everyone and welcome to CERB. It is what you make out of it which means there are a lot of great people here to chat with and be friendly and learn plus a lot of sexy ladies to communicate with and explore. Any questions, feel free to ask in a new post, a thread already going or even a PM to another member. Most are happy to help. You can post and advertise in shout box however you have to have 5 posts before doing so. Wonderful to have new voices on board. Enjoy your experience!! :boobies:

It's the first day of kindergarten and the teacher decides to do taste association. I'll blindfold you and give you a lifesaver and you tell me what flavor it is, she tells the children. So she gives them all a cherry flavour and says What flavor is that? The whole class answers Mmmm that's cherry. Very good the teacher replies. So she gives them all a grape and they reply Mmm that's grape. Very good she says again. Then she gives them all a honey flavor. The whole class sits perplexed by the strange taste, so the teacher says OK I'll give you a hint it's something your mom might call your dad. Billy spits his out on the floor and yells Spit 'em out everyone they're ASSHOLES!'

It happened to me this past summer. I booked a provider (not on CERB) who had a pretty good reputation. When the door opened she wasn't unattractive, but really wasn't what I was looking for at all. Pictures were fairly deceptive, but more than that the whole attitude towards the session didn't feel right to me. I showered, came out of the bathroom, apologized and simply said I didn't think she was what I was looking for and left. I did insist she keep the full donation. Most expensive shower I've ever had. Porthos

Had an occasion a few years back where I arrived at the lady's location, went in and there was a child sitting on the couch watching television. I asked "what gives" and she said, "it's okay, he won't disturb us, he'll sit and watch cartoons". The whole situation creeped me out and I handed the lady a twenty for her troubles said "sorry" and walked out. Perhaps I was wrong but it felt right at the time, and I'd probably do exactly the same thing if the situation ever repeated itself.

I had booked a meeting with a new lady (in Montreal), I found her listing on bp and when I knocked on her door it was not the girl that was announced in the ad, we had a small talk about the mix up, she said that her and another girl share the same phone number and she was out for a few hours. She had no problem with me leaving even though she offered me the service I refused.