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This is a touchy subject - it seems very simple to just waltz in and say oh well no thanks but it can be quite complicated on the providers end. 1. You booking an appointment for a certain time frame is taking up the escorts time. Someone else could of wanted that time and she declined because already booked. Loss of money 2. Lets say you call last minute or one hour in advance and the escort is out running errands, visiting a friend, eating or whatever (yes escorts actually go out and don't sit in bed by the phone all day *gasp*) She drops everything to go to the incall to accommodate and get ready for you. Loss of timehurtful 3. You showing up then saying I'm not interested can be and a blow to the ego. Emotional/negative feelings can arise 4. Lets say the escort only sees X amount of gentlemen per day because she doesn't want high volume going in and out of her incall to not be outed. You now have her location address which can be uncomfortable and raise questions. If you absolutely can't go through with it for whatever reason leave a small cancellation fee. There are lots of reco and review boards.

The overnight encounter does indeed present a set of dynamics different from a short one hour encounter or even from that of a longer multi-hour liaison. I appreciate and truly understand everything that Castle has written here as I have had the identical questions and musings. I absolutely understand the sadness and loneliness that at night sometimes comes with the realization that there is not a special someone to curl up to, or just touch and hold. That is a feeling that cannot be replicated without having a special someone to share it with. The lines can easily be blurred, and it is important to keep in mind the context of CERB, how and why initial meetings happened, and that there are boundaries. That is not to say that in special circumstances those boundaries cannot be mutually crossed, but I would think that that would be the exceptionally rare circumstance. An overnight is potentially a very intimate sharing experience between two people. I have had overnight dates, and they were very special, not only to me, but I believe as well for the women who shared the experience with me. They were more than simply business transactions. Did they cause 'feelings' to develop? For me the answer is no, because those 'feelings' were already there prior to the overnight, otherwise the overnight would never have happened in the first place. So what are those `feelings.` For me it is not love as I have defined it for so many years. It is caring. It is connection. It is respect. It is having that extra comfort level with another person. It is mutual pleasure. It is a meeting of minds. It is the ability to relax and share things about oneself and with each other. It is learning new things and perspectives. It is in whatever context, a special friendship. Without those things already being present I would not seek out an overnight. The overnight can enhance these things beyond my ability to express, but with care, communication, truth, honesty and sincerity, it can be something that both parties can enjoy as special without assuming anything more. If you can do that, and yes, it is an emotional rollercoaster, then an overnight is a truly special thing.

I think being clear with yourself about who you are and your boundaries is a great start. Why not take little baby steps and have a longer (2-4 hours) engagement with an SP you like? If that goes well, you can try an overnight. Also, there are many SP's who cater to the sort of relationship you may be interested in cultivating with an SP. The intimacy and closeness you need are still there and still very genuine and it's still understood that it is a business relationship. Like any relationship, business or otherwise, when emotions become involved things can get tough. It might end badly,or you might discover you have an incredibly rewarding relationship that goes on for years. A better question to ask yourself is this: Is the risk of becoming emotionally involved and having to (potentially) stop seeing your provider worth the intimacy and closeness that you desire? Or, a better way to put it might be: life is too short to worry about potential future issues that may or may not happen. If you want to try an overnight, do it! You have to follow your feelings. You have a need that is not being met. You might become emotionally involved and you might have to end it and that would suck. But you'd probably still say that it was worth it anyway. You can't live your life always trying to prevent bad things from happening. Alternately, you might also find that your feelings, should you develop any, are not unrequited at all, but in fact, returned by your SP. I'm not saying you should hope for this or think this would happen--but it HAS happened now and again (though it is generally rare). Get out there and have some sleepover fun!

Why ? Many of us are more than happy to see, that at least for the time being the looser who published that blog has come to his senses and pulled the content off line. Fact was, he could dish it out but couldn't take it. For the past few years many current and former members of CERB and other sps were harmed emotionally and in some cases even physically by this misogynistic two faced son of a bitch. You don't have to join us in our celebration but it's a little rude to tell us to take it elsewhere. A lot of people put a lot on the line, time, money, sweat and even tears to at the very least let this predator know that we wont tolerate his platform to out sex trade workers and spread his message of hate. I'm sorry you don't share in our achievement, but please don't rain on our parade.

Um... if you don't really want to know, why bother posting to this thread? Or asking? These are not rhetorical questions. I'm afraid I don't quite follow your reasoning here. This is absolutely an appropriate venue to mention something like this. I'm not well up on the details, but it sounds like someone has made a concerted effort to make life miserable - if not positively dangerous - for some of the ladies in Ottawa, and that repeated exposure of that person's lying and fraudulence has finally convinced them to quit. This should be a cause for celebration for all of us in this forum, and I'd have thought many people here, whether they be SPs/MAs or those who visit them, would be interested in knowing about it. Congratulations on the good work, guys, and thanks for letting us know about it. Ottawa's a better - and safer - place today.

Ummm ahhh i can do that and i'm not what you guys refer to as a spinner. ;-)

Heya Castle It sounds like you answered your own question there in a way. Whatever you decide, I'm sure you will be fine but I will say this. Anyone that doesn't have some sort of feelings for the person touching them or sleeping with them then there may be something wrong with them. Everyone has feelings or thoughts like "she's nice" or "what a sweet heart". Myself I wouldn't let someone touch me if I didnt have a positive feeling about them. It's a great thing to have positive feelings for someone you are sharing a special moment with, keeps us human. What's the worst that could happen? You call her again? Though I'm sure you mean feelings as in heart string tugging feelings. You mentioned that you haven't felt the warmth of a woman in a while, in the case of heart strings, I'd for sure second Berlin's motion of extending your sessions a wee longer at first. Your heart is vulnerable, not just to SP's. Be the King of your Castle that you are and you will be just fine. And hey, if you just need to feel a soft female, sleep beside you to feel great, I don't blame you.. I'll come over, we'll play some poker, I'll pee with the door open, eat your food and talk about my ex a lot and how you remind me of him, then I may or may not nag you for something you'll never know so you'll be on your guard...Finally when I've exhausted you and we've watched our 3rd season of Gilmore girls, we will pass out together in each others arms because I wont let you leave anyways and if you try to pee I'll ask "where you going?, hurry up" We will ultimately cuddle since you will already be curled in the fetal position, straddling your pillow asking yourself "is it morning yet?" I will wake you in the morning from the sounds of the loud gas passing that I held in until now, forgetting you were next to me, roll over and ask for payment, heck, I'll do for free, any day, cause, I care that much. Then I do believe you won't have to worry about your feelings interfering :)

Then why post at all? I mean, what was the point of this?

A spinner by a gents definition is a petite girl can spin around on your member without taking it out. from cowgirl to reverse cowgirl.

I love your take on the definition! I'm all about redefining and reclaiming.

Actually, monogamy is uncommon in nature. Sure, it happens, but in many cases males mate with more than one female. Part of this is a matter of strengthening the gene pool, as competition after insemination leads to the strongest and fastest sperm fertilizing the egg before the others. Monogamy is about possession, as rude as that sounds. The man/woman wants to keep a particular resource (emotional, sexual, whatever) to themselves because sharing brings the fear of losing the resource entirely. This is why I quite erroneously feel more comfortable sharing a partner with a woman; given that her bits are not the same as mine, I don't feel worried my partner will leave me for someone with better bits, or bit-using-prowess. Flawed logic, but I'm a flawed kinda guy. Of course, I've never been offered to participate in a polyamorous relationship (*nudge* Malika, *nudge*). ;)

When I read the full article this morning in Edmonton Journal, I found it alarming. My impression was that the issue (of criminalizing buying sex) is very much still on the table and can be tabled at any time. My guess is that this government is going to wait until the ruling by OSC and then would instruct Joy Smith (or a cabinet minister) to introduce her full private bill soon after, especially if as expected the OSC makes the right ruling, against government's appeal. Not amuzed!!.

This note was put on there member page 10-10-2011 04:16 PM ALLD we will back to the business soon

I don't have one, but I understand thousands of people are actually having to call and speak with each other in order to communicate - the world is ending!

Julia I just wanted to say I love how often you used the word "cock" in that last post. I love when women use that word.... Yup....really doesn't take much to turn me on this early in the morning lol ;) Posted via Mobile Device

Dude, she put this on the general discussion forum. Last I checked, we can discuss pretty much anything on here as long as it's not about illegal activities and such. Her topic is within the framework of Cerb's rules and regulations. So basically, if you think a topic sucks, don't reply to it. That way it will drift off of the first page more quickly, and problem solved. However, if multiple people respond to this thread then clearly it is of some interest to multiple people on this board. So in which case the OP put up something worth talking about. I mean christ, one of the most popular threads in the general discussion area is called the unhijackable thread of randomness!

Welcome back to the thread you created Berlin! :) Suicidal Tendencies - War Inside My Head http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acpd7sn1Y6k&feature=related

I tend to avoid perfume altogether for the simple fact that I do not know the relationship status of my client, and unless he specifies that he has a scent allergy, I don't know that either. I will not ask a client personal questions as I feel that is stepping outside the boundaries of the client-SP relationship, particularly if this is a first visit.

I would like to have a little celebration on CERB ..... the basement dweller (so perfectly named by Cowboy Kenny) has announced this, "I took down the blog a week ago because I got tired of all the bullshit that centered around it. The death threats from members of CERB, the threats and fake emails from aliases of the owner of "Ottawa's only hostess club", the lies from ex boyfriends and husbands and from the escorts themselves. It's gotten a little much for me to handle. I will be bringing it back to life one day, I'm just too busy for the drama now" I want to thank everyone who was involved in getting rid of this waste of life. And let it be known, if he decides to show up again, I will be on him again and again and again until he puts himself out of his own misery. I loath people like him and have no problem fighting back and standing up to these people. When we fight together for a common cause, justice always prevails. Good always triumphs over evil. And the basement dweller is pure evil and his blogs were nothing but hate speech against women. Ding Dong the basement dweller is gone... All sing along now.... Ding Dong the basement dweller is gone.

False. I know you don't like seafood. True or False. I am a triplet. Two sisters and me.

Going back in a general way to some of the underlying issues raised raised by the OP. I think it would be a good idea to delete the term "all mighty" from the name of the spinner social group. I don't know how this would be done for a public group like this; I don't think there is anyone specifically in charge. I am a guy who likes spinners but the actual current title "Paying homage to the all mighty spinner" is rather offensive as it suggests a hierarchy of body types.

Big boobs always seem to get all the attention....but I actually prefer smaller boobies....

Man I love your boobie traps........

Most know me for my frank posts and relatively conservative though honest views. I was very attached to cerb last year and the year before however, that attachment has been weakend somewhat as a result of some posts or debates or actions over the past few months on cerb and as some may have noticed I log on much less frequent and post comments and reviews much less than before. That said, I can confidently say that cerb is still my preferred board to be, though logging on to it is not the first thing I do after work or the last thing I do before going to bed as it used to be as late as 6 months ago. I do believe that mod has a very difficult job and is working very hard to maintain a civil and positive board, considering the wide variety of people, views, interests, backgrounds, ....... and though likely not perfect but has been to large extend successful in this challenging mission.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the term 'Spinner' quite means what you're thinking. Although I do prefer your take on things! Anyway, when a man refers to a woman as a 'spinner', I believe it means she's tiny enough to prop up and 'spin' her on his...member. Which is far worse! lol Just thought I'd give you another definition I've heard many times before.

Carly Simon-You're So Vain RG

Saw this English beauty and was totally blown away by her accent, her beauty and her service. Would definitely love to meet her again once am back in TO.

Interesting question. When I am with a MA, I am totally in the moment; enjoying what's happening and knowing (sort of) what will happen. I go in with clear expectations and don't really fantasize about more. I try to concentrate on the sensations, smells, sights, etc... I am usually far too absorbed in all of that to think of much else. It's after i've left that my mind sometimes wanders.... :-)

I was ever so fortunate to have had an opportunity to meet with Gabriella on her first ever trip to New Brunswick. I have met Gabriella on previous occasions and just as they were different experiences then and unique and amazing experiences in their own way, so was what was to come in this encounter. As has become a favourite part of a date for me, a good portion of our time was of a social nature. She is a great conversationalist, very intelligent and knowledgeable, and with the ability to put one at ease instantly, especially after the two of us having already established a rapport previously. We caught up on things over a lovely unrushed dinner and I was caught a few times I believe just sort of staring at her and then breaking into a smile simply with the enjoyment of being able to see her again. We had a short walk through part of Saint John and eventually found our way to her beautiful suite in a lovely hotel. She knows just how much I enjoy sharing a bubble bath while we sip on a glass of wine, as it is something that always adds an erotic prelude to whatever might come to pass, and we did just that. Chocolate cake and raspberries added the final decadent touch. Gabriella has a wonderfully playful nature and possesses the ability to tease and prolong and she presents such an erotic nature. She is so totally at ease with herself and her body. Shy she is not and she explored with me my interest in voyeurism while making use of some of the fun toys that she brought with her. One day I might just surprise her by taking control, but for the moment she quite enjoys playing that role with me and I am quite willing to go along. My visit with Gabriella was delightful, with funny stories and anecdotes, serious conversation, and everything in between. It is a visit that I shall always recall for many reasons. I am delighted that we have developed this friendship and on parting I left with the anticipation of a future visit in my head. Thank you Gabriella for everything. You are an amazing woman with a zest for life that I shall try to learn from. Should you have an opportunity to meet Gabriella then I am confident that it will result in a meeting that you will look back on with fond recollections. Her present ad for Saint John as is always the case truly shows her class and accurately reflects the underlying nature of an encounter. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=66882