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5 pointsThe escort verification debate boils down to two sets of risks: clients worry about being scammed, blackmailed, or losing deposits, while SPs worry about being stalked, assaulted, or worse. From the clientās side, the safest move is to choose established providers with a consistent online presenceāwebsites, socials, and reviewsāso that verification isnāt even necessary. If you still want reassurance, itās fine to ask once, politely, and keep it minimalāsomething like a non-face note photo. Demanding nudity, special outfits, or endless free verification is just exploitation and a waste of time. If the provider requires screening or deposits and youāre not comfortable, the solution is simple: move on and book someone whose process fits your comfort zone. From the providerās side, the best practice is to publish static proof onceāvia ads, socials, reviews, or a websiteāso you donāt have to repeatedly prove yourself to each new client. Setting clear boundaries around deposits, screening, and acceptable forms of verification cuts down on friction and weeds out time-wasters or power-testers. Both sides need to respect each otherās boundaries; asking isnāt inherently wrong, but bad asking is. In the end, if the fit isnāt there, walk away without drama. And beyond all of this back-and-forth, thereās a blunt reality: by participating in this activity at all, both SPs and hobbyists knowingly step into an environment with inherent risks. Each side chooses to accept that exposure, and while everyone wants to minimize the danger, the truth is that no policy, deposit, or screening process fully eliminates the gamble. Good luck figuring this outābecause the risk never disappears, it only shifts.
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5 pointsCounter point. I hand my ID to people all the time. Some ask for it when you pay by CC. Some ask at the liquor store or a bar. Car dealers take it and photocopy it. Tattoo shops make a copy. I've sent pictures of my ID via email (which is not secure). I've uploaded photos of my ID online for various reasons. Hell people lose their IDs all the time and they don't panic. They just go buy a new one and don't care what happened to the old one. So ultimately what is a provider really going to do with your ID? Don't send it to some random provider on LL you don't know but if you've done your research on a specific provider and they are reputable like several in this thread (Ms Manda, Pamela Luscious, etc.) you really think they are going to try and ruin your life over $500 just for fun? No. Because it looks bad on them too and how they conduct business and it will impact them. They will only use it if they have to in situations such as assault.
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4 pointsUnclear at this point hence my first comment. And then Robert turned it into a witch hunt again...
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4 pointsYou should be more worried about your wife going through your phone and having to sleep on the couch for a week than worry about us screening tbh. Be scared of your own wife, not us.
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3 pointsYou can probably book a flight for Montreal and find similar hot women for very reasonable rate and get gfe and come back home and it would still be financially better decision. I always say to guys, no nut is worth that much guys. just jerk off before you book so you can think clearly. 90% its just coz you are horny LOL.
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3 pointsIn the very rare chance this would possibly happen to me, I'd refund the deposit and offer another spot. It is a tough business. I know not everyone holds themselves to high professional standards for conducting their businesses. Mistakes happen and we are human. Best paths forward are leading with integrity and accountability.
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3 pointsHi babyšš Iām Sweetie! Just like my name, Iām as sweet as can beš Being extremely skilled, and with passion for what I do, I am a great choice if you want to come get your mind off life and relax for a while⦠š ā¼ļøDUOS AVAILABLE. I am happy to announce that I will be working with Natasha and we will be offering duos along with a variety of extra services upon request.ā¼ļø š„°We have booked an upscale private residence, please come visit usš„° I will ask to verify and make sure you are legit before disclosing the address š„°. Tantric duos available, regular FS duos also available. If you want to see me alone I only offer Tantra. Looking forward to hearing from youššš ABSOLUTELY NO UNSAFE SERVICES - NON NEGOTIABLE 929E3374-4FED-4AF8-AFD7-3664214B6B26.mov
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3 pointsYeah I was hoping to get some clarity from the original poster before commenting but, others clearly didnāt feel the need to wait for that lol š
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3 pointsUhm.. Peanut gallery here š Did the op mention that the provider in question asked for a deposit or cancellation fee, or was this person merely posing a hypothetical question about cancellations in general? š
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3 pointsRobert please stop turning every thread into a "SPs are evil" conversation. I've never had a provider cancel when I had paid a deposit before. Typically providers will say deposits are non refundable and if they have to cancel they will apply the deposit to another booking time. In some cases you may be able to get a refund but it's up to the specific provider and situation. I have had providers no show or cancel last minute when there's been no deposit. Never been offered a discount and wouldn't ever expect one honestly. End of the day it's a service offered and shit happens. Sleeping through an alarm is a shit reason but shake it off and move on.
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3 pointsCan you clarify the issue here please. You donāt say anything about having paid a deposit in your message but the latest replies (e.g., from RobertDion) are implying a deposit was paid. Are you asking about whether a deposit should be refunded if an appt falls through or are you asking if you should be compensated for time lost due to planning and showing up for the original appt, which fell through due to an issue with the SP? Different issues I thinkā¦
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3 pointsEither way, you'd be refunded the money, or, if she's ghosting you, then she took your deposit and ran, like many do. It's the double standard discussed here many times before. They want a deposit to ensure you're serious and to make sure you don't cancel and to pay for their prep time, and to lock in your appointment. She SHOULD refund your money or re-schedule and not charge you a deposit again, obviously. But if her intent is to just collect deposits, then your sh*t out of luck.
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3 pointsIf she cancels and doesn't rebook you I would expect a refunded deposit. Maybe a priority rebooking. If she has extras she offers I can see her maybe offering a small discount on extras if the client is interested. But honestly no. Not really the same. If you book a massage and the massage therapist calls in sick that day you don't get a discount on your next service. You just rebook if possible and move on. Shit happens.
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3 pointsI've been following this thread from the beginning and for me it always comes back to the same thing - I have a choice. No one is making me meet with a provider who requires ID, a deposit or both. But what really irks me is the 'issue' of providers having control and hobbyists not being able to do anything about it. That doesn't seem to sit very well with some folks. It is being dressed up as some half-baked policy discussion when really it's about power. I also think language matters...'hobbyists'. For me, this is fun, exciting, a bit of sexual therapy, sometimes it's emotional therapy or some mix of all of the above. For many if not most providers, it is their livelihood. It is a profession and a business. This industry was here long before us and will be long after we're gone. I am just grateful for the many lovely human beings I get to spend time with. The way I choose to go about my 'hobby' is to manage my risks through research. I also realize I don't get to make the rules. If I don't like it, well, that's my problem.
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3 pointsYāall worried about handing over ID, meanwhile you expose your whole life, real name, location, and family, on social media every single day. Make it make sense šš Hack our phones? Then what? A thousand burner numbers with random IDs. Itās literally no different than the old yellow/white pages phone book that is public. š And letās be clear, whatās actually illegal here? Buying, not selling. That law exists to protect providers, minors, and to fight trafficking. Two consenting adults arenāt at risk. Nobodyās getting dragged to court for paying a consenting legal provider. Facts.
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3 pointsJust checking in. I've been away for so long. I'm considering seeing those I've met previously. Let me know if you're interested. Pictures for respectful inquiries. Pre-booking only. In-call and out-call with screening.
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2 pointsHello Gentlemen! Sorry for the short notice! š«š„ŗš I will be hosting in the downtown Moncton area from Sept 18th-21st! --------- Hours of Operation: Sept 18th: 3pm-Late Sept 19th: 8am-Late Sept 20th: 8am-12am ---------- ---------- Stay In touch!! 604-206-6969 [email protected]
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2 pointsOnly real recognizes real LOL. people forget that this is for fun, they shouldn't get addicted to it, you will lose your wallet and maybe your wife/life too. Empires and clans have fallen down coz of pussy LOL
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2 points** New X (twitter) profile... @GfeKylie2024 ** Times available and location Monday Sept 15 Off Tuesday Sept 16 Outcalls only 1pm-11pm Wednesday Sept 17 Incall/Outcall 12pm-11pm Thursday Sept 18 Incall/Outcall 9am-9pm Friday Sept 19 Outcalls only 1pm-11pm Saturday Sept 20 Off Sunday Sept 21 Off Incalls are in Halifax at a central, discreet location with plenty of free parking. Open to all orientations and genders. Open to singles, couples, multi-person and party bookings. How to connect with me Text or call: 902-456-2898 (text preferred) Email: [email protected] X (Twitter): @GfeKylie2024 Website: https://www.kyliejane.net 'private' or 'unknown' callers will not be answered. Donation Rates Incall hosting in Halifax: 30min.... $180 1 hour..... $280 90min.... $420 2 hours.. $520 Additional incall hours 240/hr. After 1st hr. Additional incall half-hours are $140. After 1st hr. **New people may be required to submit a deposit for first time booking** Outcalls: Outcalls are available through the week with atleast 6hrs notice and per my availability, in Halifax and surrounding areas. Outcalls on days I'm not hosting require a 2hr minimum date. Starting at $640 for 2hrs. Outcalls on days I'm hosting require a 1hr minimum date. Starting at $340 for 1hr. Outcalls are location based and may be subject to a $75 per hour fee for travel. **All outcalls require a deposit in advance** I'm available for overnights, extended days, weekends and trips away..message for details. Pics on site during date $30 each Videos on site during date $60/per15min ** Allowing Pics and videos during dates are at my discretion** Sexting $60/30min w/1pic $80/30min w/3pics $100/30min w/1pic and video clip **Role play is available during Sexting** **Sexting dates require booking and there are none on my hosting incall days** Content sales Premade Pics $25 each Premade Videos $60-$100 each (1 to 8min in length) Custom videos and pics...Message for details Used panties $20 each. Shown worn About Me I am a 5'6 beautiful blonde with soft pleasing features, engaging blue eyes that will captivate you and luscious fill lips that will more than please you all over. My small waist, perfect hips, tight booty and perky breasts gives me amazing curves(36d-28-36) and an hourglass shape. With soft silky skin that is ready for your touch and firm strong legs that will easily wrap around you, I know I have a body that you will enjoy and take pleasure in. I'm open-minded, fetish and role-play friendly and look forward to bringing your fantasies to life. My attire allows me to satisfy many wishes, whether you desire the girl-next-door, the bad girl your mother warned you about or the exotic Porn star I can be anything you need and want. I have a very outgoing and cheerful personality. When I greet you at the door with the perfect kiss and you look into my alluring blue eyes any concerns and nervousness will just melt away. I am genuinely interested in your day, learning about you, your likes and dislikes, anything that will make our time together comfortable and enjoyable. I expect you to be clean with impeccable hygiene and drug and disease free as I am. This is a confidential, and discreet encounter that is held in respect. Donations are exchange for time and time only. Anything that happens within that time is mutually agreed upon as consenting adults.
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2 pointsI had the pleasure of spending time with Natasha this morning. I had an amazing time with this gorgeous woman! I suggest you meet her while you can! Because Nsman had drawn my attention to the age she has posted on her ad, I asked if she would show me her ID (enough to confirm it was hers and see her age). I can confirm Natasha is of legal age. No worries there guys!
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2 pointsIsn't the rule everyone lies so add 5? Likely mid 20s. Especially where she knows Sweetie and other known providers I'm sure she is legal.
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2 pointsFor any Asian lovers, Jocelyn {6988} is in Moncton this week. She was here about a year and a half ago. She comes from the Halifax area. Very sweet girl, and lots of fun. She is probably mid to late 30's. Not her pictures, but they never are with the Asians. She is still a lot of fun. I sure plan to repeat!! š
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2 pointsI refund deposits through Amazon gift card or crypto if I ever need to cancel or reschedule. For example, I once had a gentleman ask for his refund via crypto. When I asked for his wallet address so I could send it back, he ghosted. I'm guessing he doesn't know how crypto works. Just as an FYI, for crypto transfers, we canāt return funds without your wallet. That being said, if the lady didnāt take a deposit, she doesnāt owe you anything. Do you expect her to send you money out of pocket?
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2 pointsI think the why is fairly obvious. Getting confirmation that she is extremely hot and spectacular is a great starting point but, sharing information and promoting great SPs are what this site is about so, recommendations can provide more complete info. Recommendations can address accuracy of photos, communication style (quick or need to be patient), location (obviously not exact location but maybe hotel/private residence, part of town that you are comfortable with, maybe condition of location if it impacted your enjoyment of the session), quality of time spent, and maybe something about services offered (although ymmv but something about restrictions could be useful for us and the SP). If you had a great overall experience let us know so, we can learn and explore possibilities for ourselves. Good recommendations benefit us and also the SPs that deserve them! I canāt comment on how hard it is to post in the reco section or barriers/delays by mods but, I assume if you are posting a true ārecommendationā it will get there. Sorry to hear youāve had trouble with that. Having said all that, if we want to discuss the merits or pros/cons of posting recommendations further, letās take the convo to a new discussion thread so, this thread on the gorgeous Natasha doesnāt get hijacked by this tangential topic!
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2 pointsBut why? Are these not enough of a recommendation? This board is ridiculous in how the reco section is moderated. I tried to post there once and it never showed up, so why even bother?
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2 pointsIf the provider says it's a non refundable deposit then what do you expect? Again if you can't rebook I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for it back if they are the ones who cancelled but you took that risk knowing it was non refundable. If they don't say non refundable then you should get it back without question.
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2 pointsNo oneās driverās license is worth thousands š If it is, yāall better start keeping it in a safe. And if you ever take it out to drive, make sure itās in a metal wallet with a padlock and a ball & chain hooked to it!!
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2 pointsGoogle it free. Selling sex is legal in Canada. Itās the purchasing thatās criminalized under PCEPA. If youāre unsure, hereās the governmentās own wording. you can read it yourself: https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/other-autre/c36fs_fi/
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2 pointsThat's the best point made so far. And how is it that crustychris has seen ALL the SPs in town?? š
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2 pointsIt is wrong and honestly, imo, disrespectful. The legitimate SPs have gone to great lengths to provide information to validate themselves as true and authentic. Websites, photoshoots, multiple ad platforms, social media accounts (which in today's age are super hard to maintain against the algorithm that are constantly banning us), online content platforms like OF and NLDTCONNECT and recommendations/reviews. Most valid SPs will have at least 2 or those available. Most of us have spent 1000s of dollars and hours to create this. If you haven't followed the links provided in the ad to verify them, that's on you. For the rare ad that was stolen from one platform and placed on another, most of us are google-able. If someone is new and is just building up, that will be up to you on how you want to move forward. If someone is constantly changing names, that should be a red flag it's self. If you take a couple of minutes to think with the big head vrs the little one, you should be able to make an informed decision of seeing someone or not.
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2 pointsIt's not "wrong" to ask, but in reality, the question should be "why" are you asking? It's been discussed at length I know, but I can't seem to help myself from repeating this. With only one possible exception that I've read about in the past 5 or so years, this typically only happens when you're trying to save pennies on that scandolous "LeoList witch-hunt"...and once you've been scammed/blackmailed, you haven't saved a thing... The companions with active Twitter/X accts. & legit websites/reviews are not scamming people for deposits. They are, as has been oft repeated, simply looking to confirm your name, for nothing more than their own safety. There's a lot of people out there, having a lot of fun, because verifying an established SW'er is not a challenge at all, and they don't shy away from paying a deposit... Why argue with anyone for verification when there are so many established (& "verified") companions around? Many local, and seemingly even more visiting in a fairly steady stream... Just my unpopular opinion...
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2 pointsMaybe it is just me but... I find that when it was Cerb previously and it had the chat room, it drew a lot more people in because you had the opportunity to chat with people prior and get a sense who best suits what you are looking for or what the lady or gent is like or offers. Maybe if the chat came back it may liven the site up a bit more again but... yes the site is very quiet. I barely post here anymore but... I like to come on and catch up with those that still do use it.
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1 point"Premium quality" 𤣠I would agree quality is subjective. I have seen almost every YFL lady and I would say exactly one of them would be premium. Same goes for the other ladies touring from Montréal. When you go on Tryst, you find the actual premium providers and they charge premium rates. If the YFL ladies are your idea of a good time, then I guess you get to save some money, so good for you.
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1 pointAllow me to pour my passion and pleasure skills into making you feel like the best man ever! I'll be hosting in Halifax Sept 18-21 Available Daily 9am-10pm Pre-booking is highly recommended as I am a low volume provider preferring to build chemistry and connection that is full of passion. I do accept same day appointments for schedule incall dates. Screening and deposit required. GFE starting at 410 an hour Nuru +50 to my GFE rates FBSM Coming soon! Website: www.stephaniemystique.vip <--- Rates, Full Schedule and to book! *DOWN FOR THE COUNT* X: Stephanie Mystique (@StephanieMysti1) / X *New one coming soon Hopefully* š¶ļøšø: NLDT CONNECT www.nldtconnect.com/stephaniemystiq
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1 pointI get the question but still unclear if you gave her a deposit. This happened to me many years ago with a reputable SP, I took time off from work and drove over 1 hour away to go and meet her at our scheduled time and got no response from her, waited over an hour and then drove back home and went back to work. I lost about 4 hours all together (didn't get paid) and the disappointment of not seeing this girl. The next day she replied and offered me an extra hour at no cost for our next meeting. I took the deal and I think that she even gave me a better service then usual(I might have imagine it). Keep in mind that she never asked for a deposit and I was/still am a long time member of CERB/Lyla.
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1 pointA driverās license on its own is not enough to commit fraud. To open a bank account or access financial services in Canada, you need a SIN, a signature, and often additional verification. A license by itself is practically useless without that supporting information. On top of that, most people already have safeguards in place through Equifax or TransUnion, which notify you immediately if your ID has been compromised or used improperly. So no, providing ID for screening doesnāt magically put you at financial risk. Itās simply a basic layer of accountability that separates serious, respectful clients from those who want to avoid responsibility
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1 pointKylie Karma lives in Miramichi and is great. She's bottom only though. Also, Janice Reine will be in Moncton this weekend. Very professional and good. Beyond that, I'm not sure. Most of the ads on L.L. are fakes or scams, imo so I haven't bothered to TOFTT.
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1 pointSaid she offers duos with Sweetie and Bea so @therealsweetie could probably confirm if sheās real or not.
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1 pointAlthough you could request a shower together and make your time great! Just an idea! She is a cute girl.
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1 pointI have a hard time believing the text response. Fairly low rate claiming everything is included and no extra donations required even for things people always charge more for like š. If I had to guess they are real but just want you in the door and the base rate is everything safe and covered and every single thing beyond will be extra. I've been caught with that before. I'd love to be proven wrong though!
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1 pointPeople who are not happy because they talk to me like an object and have no respect for my name, you think I will let you insult me, insult my work and insult my worth? I will NEVER.EVER give bb services you are not happy with that? Fine, walk away, I dont need someone who can't respect my boundaries, would you like your mom to be treated like you do to me? How would you feel if people would treat your daughter or your sister like that? We are humans and try to give the best time possible to people, we are here to make them feel good, to feel better about themselves, to help them rebuild their confidence, to listen to their pain and help them having a better life with good company. We answer hundreds of texts a day just for people to waste our time or laugh at our faces. I love my job when I have gentleman that respect me and treat me like I am important, because, I am, you are paying me to give you a good time and good experience and its by making me feel like you're enjoying it that I will enjoy it. So my number is out of service for the moment, thank you.
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1 pointUnless the rules have changed, first of all this kind of thing to be reported under warnings by the person it happened to. SPs are not supposed to report on other providers. I actually got suspended in the past for doing so. If Iām wrong, I apologize.
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1 pointDon't want to take your original post down one specific path Danielle. By the way I think it is a great question and look forward to more ladies responses. I sometimes question the 'initial contact' and will always follow the ladies preferred method (email, PM, text, etc..). I find text can be tricky because of the limit and how much to provide. Want enough so she knows a little about me and I've addressed most of perhaps initial questions...but at the same time I appreciate and value the time it takes for a lady to manage her business. Was good to see I came close earlier this week with a new lady I'm looking forward to meeting. Her response; "That's such a wonderfully detailed first contact". I view that first contact and our text exchange between now and when we meet in a week, to all be 'part of the date' and the experience we'll both have. Off to a great start I think! Cub
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