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In the light of another heated/frustrating threat about the "No Black rule" and a few other threat related to the colour of hobbyists, of the providers skin, racism, pimps and all that blablabla over the recent weeks on TERB, I did find this article, well written, on the web this morning. Of course, it did make me think and I felt to share it, hoping... For the records, I decided to copy/paste the article, in case it disappears in time, but here's the original link, coming from VICE: [URL]https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bjyp35/what-happens-when-sex-workers-put-women-of-colour-first?utm_source=vicetwitterca[/URL] I just hope that one day, there will have no needs for this conversation... The Black Bass ------------------------------------------------------- [B][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]What Happens When Sex Workers Put Women of Colour First[/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Helvetica]We asked escort Amber Ashton about industry racism and the WOC-elevating hashtag she started.[/FONT][/B] [FONT=Arial]When a sex worker from the UK created a hashtag this November after being frustrated at the lack of diversity on her Twitter timeline, she didnâ??t anticipate how much it would resonate in the industry.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]â??Let's flood the TL with glorious images & occupy some space,â? she tweeted, â?Respond to this thread w/ a hot photo, your website or advert & the [URL="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WOCW?src=hash"][COLOR=black]#WOCW[/COLOR][/URL]! Then RT other babes & watch the TL flourishhh.â?[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][URL="https://twitter.com/xxxescortamber"][COLOR=black]Amber Ashton[/COLOR][/URL], 27, who started the Women of Colour Wednesday (WOCW) movement on Twitter, has been in the industry for nine years. Sheâ??s done sex work in a number of forms and has toured the world as an independent escort. Like many sex workers who have a presence on Twitter, Amber gets a number of her bookings (about 30 percent) via the social media platform. By sending off the first WOCW tweet, Amber hoped to elevate other sex workers of colour by getting them exposure that could lead to bookings.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]The Women of Colour Wednesday hashtag has been going on for over a month now and has thousands of posts promoting women of colour in sex work. Amber said it has directly led to women of colour in the industry getting booked by clients. VICE reached out to her to discuss what led up to her creating the social media movement and to hear about what her experiences have been in the industry.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]VICE: What led up to you creating WOCW (Women of Colour Wednesday)? [/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Arial]Amber Ashton:[/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial] Some people assume I sat down and planned it. The reality is that I was jet-lagged in the supermarket doing some grocery shoppingâ?¦ I was scrolling through my timeline [on Twitter], and it was like: size eight white chick, size eight white chick, size eight white chick. Then Iâ??d click on the size eight white chicksâ??excuse my not-so-PC languageâ??but Iâ??d notice that everyone they were tweeting was the same. It really bothered me, and itâ??s something that I often talk about and think about: the fact that women of colour, especially within this industry, especially black women, I feel like we have to almost work twice as hard to get the same amount of exposure.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]In general, it leads back to societyâ??s beauty standards. Itâ??s no surprise to anyone: You open up magazines, and the bodies are primarily white and slim, cisgender white women. I was like, I donâ??t want to see this constant branding I always see from the same cookie-cutter sex workersâ??I want to see more diversity! So, Iâ??m like, Iâ??m going to tweet this thing.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]It also came from the fact that being a woman of colour, being a black sex worker, I do think itâ??s been harder for me in this industry. However, within this industry, I do also recognize my own privileges: I am British, I speak English, I speak many languages, I am degree-educated. Iâ??ve had these privileges that have meant that I have a good following on Twitter, that have meant that Iâ??m fairly consistent with workâ?¦ It was a matter of helping other people get that reach. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Ultimately, I just wanted to see a less white, Eurocentric timeline and uplift the other workers of colour who put in the work, who are gorgeous, who are intelligent, who are such savvy business womenâ??but, for so many reasons, get overlooked. [/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]What issues do women of colour in the industry face that white sex workers donâ??t? [/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial]My experiences are my own, and I canâ??t talk for other providers. I know a lot of providers wouldâ??ve had it a lot worse than me, but I also know a lot of women of colour who say they havenâ??t had issues. I started in the sex work industry when I was 18 at an agency.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]One of the biggest stand-out things for me that I discussed with other women of colour is being priced different. Our rates in the agency were set rates, and my rate was always less. When I questioned it I was told, â??Youâ??re not as desirable; youâ??re not as in-demand. I canâ??t charge as much for you because the guys wonâ??t pay it.â? This is something that is across the boardâ?¦ Providers of colour, especially black providers, get emails like â??$300 for your â??insert racial slur hereâ??â??youâ??ve got to be crazy.â? [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Itâ??s this idea that we donâ??t have the same amount of worth. I think it links into other things, such as classism, this idea of black people being â??ghettoâ? and such. This is why my marketing, and that of others, has to focus on how highly educated I am, the languages I speak, and almost push away from my blackness. Itâ??s interesting in the last couple of years when the idea of being a â??thot,â? or people like Cardi B have become popular, everyone is hashtagging â??bubble buttâ?â??stuff a few years ago, I really avoided that because it meant that I wasnâ??t as â??high-classâ? as my fellow colleagues.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]Can you talk about the trajectory of your career in sex work? [/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial]Iâ??ve worked in essentially every form in the industry: Iâ??ve worked for agencies, Iâ??ve worked for brothels, Iâ??ve worked in strip clubs, Iâ??ve freestyled at bars. Now, Iâ??m independent and have been for years. But there isnâ??t a single aspect of this market that I havenâ??t noticed being treated differently as a black woman.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]When I was freestylingâ??this is when you would go out to bars to try to pick up clientsâ??I had instances where me and another black girl would be kicked out of a bar, but the other white girls would be allowed to stay because, Iâ??ve been told, â??You donâ??t fit our image.â? In the brothels, the last time I worked in one, thereâ??s about 15 workers on shift at one time. The owner was adamant that she could only have one black girl on shift at a time. I was like, â??Why?â? She was like, â??Thereâ??s only so much demand for black women. Youâ??re not standard. I also donâ??t want clients to have this assumption that weâ??re a black venue, that theyâ??ll only come and find black girls. Itâ??s a high-class venue.â? [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I looked at the other black girl who turned up: She was six-foot, Sudanese origin, beautiful blue-black skin, size six, cropped hair. Iâ??m five-foot-seven, a size 12, of a lighter complexion. We are completely different. I looked at the white girls in the room, and we had about six size eight blondes. Without being so direct, it felt like she didnâ??t want to tarnish her establishment with this reputation. I was like, so what if it becomes known as a place where you can find black girls? Surely the best kind of place it could be known as is a place where youâ??ll find variety. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]As a private sex worker, itâ??s the whole thing of racial fetishization. Itâ??s a really big deal. Itâ??s something I talk about and I think people think I complain about. And I do, because itâ??s my right to complain about it. I get shit from people because I openly discuss that I openly profit off of it. My reason behind it is, regardless of how I market and label myself, I will always be â??ebony.â? I will always be â??chocolate.â? I will always be â??caramel.â? Those arenâ??t things that make me particularly jump up and down for joy. However, I know I can turn around and use those in my marketingâ?¦ Itâ??s almost reclaiming something, because you know itâ??s going to be done to you, so why not take it and use it and spin it, make it sexy.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]Speaking of ads, some sex workers will say in theirs that they donâ??t see black men or Indian men or Middle Eastern men. What are your thoughts on that? [/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial]It is such a controversial topicâ?¦ I canâ??t remember a time when this conversation wasnâ??t a thing. All I can say is from my personal perspective: I believe that as a sex worker, an independent contractor, as someone who engages in intimate acts, that you are the ultimate decider on what you do with your own body. If you donâ??t want to see somebody, that is completely your choice. There are also things that are based on traumaâ?¦ and Iâ??m in no position to discuss that personâ??s trauma and their decision that comes from it. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]But in a general capacity where itâ??s like â??I donâ??t see African American men because their dicks are too bigâ? or â??I donâ??t see Indian men because theyâ??re rudeâ?â??if somebody is completely discriminating against an entire race, to me that is a racist action. People always jump and say â??Iâ??m not a racist!â?â??but I didnâ??t say you were a racist, I just said that the decision youâ??re making is a racist decision. Itâ??s ingrained in racism. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Theyâ??ll say, â??Oh, but Iâ??m just not attracted to â??insert ethnicity here.â??â? OKâ?¦ but are you attracted to the old white men you see? Iâ??m a sex worker, and I find something attractive in anyone and everyone. Even to say â??Iâ??m not attracted to this person because theyâ??re blackâ?â??the whole idea of being attracted to someone because of race is surrounded by racism. Thatâ??s you essentially saying, â??I think all black people look the same.â? How can you say youâ??re not attracted to an entire race?[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Thereâ??s also more complex [situations]: I know some black workers who wonâ??t see black clients, and I think that comes more down to cultural things where they donâ??t want to bump into someone or donâ??t want to have to deal with talking in a language to someoneâ?¦ My rules are if youâ??re polite and well-mannered, I have time for you.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]You tour around the world for work. Is there anywhere youâ??ve found the market has been especially good to you? [/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial]Australia has always been very, very good for me. I love the clients there. Theyâ??re some of the best gents in the world. Ireland Iâ??ve always done especially well in. I know exactly why this is: When I started in Dublin in 2011, I think there was approximately 250 of us in Dublin, and there was four, maybe five, black women (including me). Whilst being a woman of colour in this industry has made it more challenging in certain ways, in other ways, itâ??s made me more of a rarity. Itâ??s like this unique thing. Especially smaller towns in Ireland, itâ??s not the most multicultural place. You get the guys who are like, â??Iâ??ve never been with a black chick before!â? And youâ??re like, â??Cool, bro. Letâ??s do this!â? Sometimes in the back of my head Iâ??m thinking: [I]Iâ??m just like the other chicks, just a bit browner[/I].[I] [laughs] [/I]At the end of the day, itâ??s what works. In Sweden, I always know I will be booked out because the common beauty in Sweden (less so lately with immigration and such) is tall, slim blonde. So when I turn up, and Iâ??m shorter, Iâ??m darker, Iâ??m curvierâ??people [are interested].[/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]What has the reception been to WOCW? [/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial]Thereâ??s two sides to itâ?¦ I never expected it to blow up the way it did. I wouldâ??ve turned my notifications off if I knew it would go that crazy. I ended up postponing family plans that day to retweet and keep it going. There was negative backlash as well, which I never expected to happen. It ranged from a specific person on Twitter, quite a high-profile escort, saying that they thought it created more â??division.â? Like, â??We donâ??t need a Women of Colour Wednesday. Every day should just be sex worker day.â? In theory, greatâ??but thatâ??s not how it works.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]I was ripped into and told, â??This is stupid. This is you making things worse.â? Itâ??s much like other arguments when people discuss diversity in any industry. People start kicking up a fuss, like, â??Oh, it should be merit-based.â?[/FONT] [FONT=Arial]Itâ??s when feminists talk about how women only make 70 cents to a manâ??s dollar. Then they forget to discuss the fact that black women are making 60 cents on a manâ??s dollar, which is less than white women.[/FONT] [B][FONT=Arial]Is there anything else youâ??d like to discuss about Women of Colour Wednesday and elevating women of colour in sex work? [/FONT][/B][FONT=Arial]I often find white women asking themselves, â??What can I do? I want to be an ally; I want to help other workers.â? Then you get things like them offering discounts to men of colour [as clients]. When people ask me, I think the simple answer is: Signal boost women of colour. Like their content, retweet their content, engage with them. People discuss offering duos with them. Iâ??m not saying you have to have at least three people of colour on your duo pageâ??but check the company youâ??re keeping. If youâ??re surrounded by fellow white women, if your entire timeline is white women, why is that? Is it that your brain has tricked you into thinking that is whatâ??s aesthetically pleasing based on what you see in the magazines and on the TV? Itâ??s easy to make the effort. One retweet can get someone a booking.[/FONT] [I][FONT=Arial]This interview has been edited for length and clarity.[/FONT][/I] [I][FONT=Arial]Follow Amber Ashton [URL="https://twitter.com/xxxescortamber"][COLOR=black]on Twitter[/COLOR][/URL].[/FONT][/I]

Over 24 hours notice? Shit happen and you have done nothing wrong, from what you wrote. Yes the lady can fix her policies, but this is a bit extreme for me, in terms of fees. Move on. There are tones of beautiful ladies out there.

I share the same memories of the 70/80s, but I prefer totally shaved. Recently, I end up with a girl who wasn't shave and I didn't really like it. The look is ok, but the play a bit less.

I watch Captain America - Civil War, the movie that did introduce the Black Panther in the Avengers dimension. You bet that this is to go watch the movie Black Panther, sometime this week. Otherwise, I started to watch recently "The last man on Earth"... not sure yet where that show is going, but I give it a try for now. I also already saw the 4 Marvels stories : Luke Cage, Angela Jones, Iron Fist and Daredevil. Now I have to watch next The Defenders, that bring the 4 of them together.

Bumping up this old threat of almost 2 years that I find interesting... Would love to hear what people have to say today about that. For me, hug is definitively the way. But I respect the lady's boundaries so when I walk in a place, I let the lady make the move of hug or what else. If she give me a handshake, so be it and I'll know that it will probably be a "cold business" encounter. Rare, but it did happen a few time. If she hugs me (please don't tap in my back like you console me... it's worst than a handshake.. lolll), I feel it should be a good session. BUT..., if she welcomes me with a little kiss, following by a little caress on the other cheek... it may not be a business transaction, but I know I'm in business!!!

You will find a lot of the answers on this threat http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=153176

BP adds are not all fake, but a vast majority of them are... It is frustrated but it is what it is! The challenge with BP adds is to find who is real, who is not and it takes time. But yes, if you want to avoid trouble, just stick with the Lyla Ladies, much more trustable! I use BP as a complement to my searches, sometime a little info is there that I don't find on Lyla. But in my latest searches if a girl is not on Lyla, I pass.

That is an interesting question, HarleyMay. I don't know how popular these sites are today but it's my believe that if they are still on the internet, it's because there is a demand for them (regardless it's webcam, Skype, Instagram live, snapchat or something else...). At the beginning of internet, back at the end of the 90 - beginning of 2000, these types of "lives shows" were very popular. However, with the expansion of free porn videos or things like that, these days, I'm surprise that they are still on the market and that they can be sale well. Well, not that I know much about it, personally, as I never paid for that. Now, your question is also to know if people around here would be interesting in watching local girls... I'm not sure that it would make a difference, for someone who like that type of service. Regardless if the lady is a local or not, I don't think there is going to have a significant demand from local clients. I may be wrong, it's just an impression. However, internet being without barer now, you will have customers from everywhere in the planet. Maybe a few but I don't think it will be the vast majority of the clients. Just my two cents... :wink: Ultimately and to answer to your question, for me it's a no, either. D.

I concur with itd131, the website is a great source of information and when it is well built, BP ads can remain at strict minimum. When initially contacting a provider, the more info is available, the better it is and it sets all required parameters. For me, it doesn't matter where is the info, as long as I can find it on the web, it's find. If a provider has a website or an ad somewhere else with all the info, it's perfect and she can just link her BP ad to it. Before contacting a provider, what I like to know is schedules, rates, services (MA/SP/Hybrid), pictures, mensuration (high, weight, cup), ethnicity (if not obvious), contact info and any particular things that the provider want us to know or dislike. So, to work around the 140 characters on BP, the perfect ad can be just the name of the provider, some pictures, general location (city, east/north/west/south/downtown) and a link to the website that will contain what need to be know. If she doesn't have a website or another place where all the info are available, yes I found it smart, ingenious, creative (name them...) to upload a photo that contains all required information. I hate when I must ask a provider what her fees are. Please, ladies, make it obvious somewhere to avoid negotiations. If the price is too high for me, I will move to the next one and not waist anymore of your time (and mine too). I think it's in the best interest of the provider to put the more info somewhere and to make it available for clients. It reduces confusion, bad surprises, frustrated providers, unsatisfied clients. Sure, there will be always some problematic clients out there who are going to cross boundaries, but if there is no grey area, they can be minimal.

Yes, she is.

You can search a bit on the forum, there are some threats about that subject. But I would suggest you to read this link before asking this question again. http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=651658&highlight=squirting#post651658 .

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I prefer the evening appointments. Very rare that I'm meeting a lady in the afternoon and never the morning. The only time that I go in the afternoon will be when I really wish to see someone but my evening schedule doesn't seems to clear on the long term. In that case, I will look for an appointment just after work, before coming home. But definitively, the evening appointments (between 7 and 10) are the best for me, I feel more relax.

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Ok, my apology. I think I did not express what I was really thinking. Can I please blame it on the language barrier :-?... I think I took a short cut at one point on my post that made it sounds another way then originally :sad:. Allow me to correct the impression of it: I fully agree that a provider has the right to accept or to refuse to kiss me or any client. What I wanted to say was that, for me, I find it strange to do all what we do in a meeting and not kissing. It just me, in my mind, probably because I prefer GFE. I know it can happen, I know a provider has that right, I have always highly valued all the rights of the providers. Ultimately, I agree with you 100% that if chemistry, sincerity and other conditions are right, the experience will feel much more real. In such case, kisses may be at RDV. But if I have a session with a girl and kisses are not part of it, personally I don't think that I will feel any connection. But, initially, it is that connection that I am looking for. So, if it's not there, I will not want to repeat with her. And for me, repeating is a way to thanks the provider and to express to her that I did appreciate her service (but again, that's me, nobody has to agree with me, I know some people don't want to repeat...). Anyway, I love to kiss and wish to only meet providers who are ready to kiss me :grin:.

Can somebody field me up with what is going on with this place, please? I found this : http://ottawa.postfastr.com/BodyRubs/club-harmony-where-desires-come-true-ask-about-the-spring-special/49521427 but no link works and I don't know if I'm just not looking at the right place. Is this place is close?

And I'm adding my voice to this one, Eliza is a passionate kisser. I just did a one hour session with her, earlier this week, where we spend almost the entire time just kissing. I think none of us wanted to stop kissing the other one. And when she noticed: "I didn't even massaged you", I said "I don't care, I got enough fun!". loll. My worst experiences with MA/SP (not a lot, but still there are) are with providers that didn't demonstrate that kissing was part of the menu. I understand that some providers had mentioned they don't like the "try it and see" approach, but I prefer to let the girl set her boundaries and to let her come to me. Now, if a lady, in this "parallel world", is not comfortable enough to kiss me during a full one hour session as we are getting closer, with us taking a shower together, with me being naked on the massage table, with her doing naked body slide on me, with her touching me in the most intimate spots of my body and me touching her too on some intimate spots of her body, I don't know man, I don't know! It sounds abnormal for me to do all that and not allow kissing. Well... I welcome all opinion but in such case, as far as I am concern, I don't think it worth to come back at all.

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