Assumptions about higher/lower volume providers

[poolasaurus 5877]

I just go by recommendations ( or lack thereof). I personally don't care what kind of volume a working girl wants or does so long as the quality is there.

 

I know guys who get downright turned on knowing the girl has been booked solid all day, servicing many men. I'm sure there are those who's the opposite. My point is that there's no real answer and we should just be mature enough to expect quality sessions for services paid.

[roamingguy 300292]

The only, well not assumption, but question in my mind when looking for a lady to meet is will I have a good encounter with her. If the answer is yes, then I will contact her. If I do have a good encounter with her, then she is a lady I will schedule repeat dates with.

But it is no more my business whether she is a higher/lower volume provider than it is the lady's business whether I see a lot of ladies, or a few.

And I enjoy my time with the ladies who have provided me with wonderful good encounters. Whether they are high or low volume providers never crossed my mind, whether they are good companions, that for me is what is important and the only thing that matters to me

Good post Nathalie

RG

[Nathalie L 112512]

I personally don't care what kind of volume a working girl wants or does so long as the quality is there.

 

Whether they are high or low volume providers never crossed my mind, whether they are good companions, that for me is what is important and the only thing that matters to me

 

This is as it should be.

[PistolPete 61421]

Great thread Nathalie,

 

The posting of ads or shout out could be simply as you say, getting per-bookings and set a schedule, that should be done as a provider, it shows to myself a organized individual once contact is made that she has set her schedule and is proactive about it.

 

The other marketing tool used " is a web site " I venture to say there is more than 85% of ladies that have one, on the site is her " schedule" especially if it is updated regularly.

 

I have no issue about the higher/lower volume of clients a lady might say other than this, IF she is to entertain 8 clients in a day, she really does need the mental break in between, plus the time for her to get ready/hygiene complete for next visitor.

 

Yes sex is great and yes it is none of my business of how many she may see in a day, but if she is offering in calls the issue becomes a discretion issue with a steady flow of traffic that may lead to noisy neighbours or possibly LE.

 

There is so many ways of marketing for ladies today, to get in contact with her, web sites,boards,cell phones, it is an actual bonus, when I started seeing ladies I was using a pay phone, and they were accepted calls, today they are not ( is there still pay phones around ?) now we have a shout box for quick contact.

 

It's all good, and as they say never "assume" .

[Mister T 45020]

The only, well not assumption, but question in my mind when looking for a lady to meet is will I have a good encounter with her. If the answer is yes, then I will contact her. If I do have a good encounter with her, then she is a lady I will schedule repeat dates with.

But it is no more my business whether she is a higher/lower volume provider than it is the lady's business whether I see a lot of ladies, or a few.

And I enjoy my time with the ladies who have provided me with wonderful good encounters. Whether they are high or low volume providers never crossed my mind, whether they are good companions, that for me is what is important and the only thing that matters to me

Good post Nathalie

RG

 

RG, you beat me to it, my thoughts exactly.

 

The only thing i'll add in reference to Nathalie's point is that i've had great encounters, both with ladies i've met for the first time and on many occasions, regardless of how frequently they post (that is an irrelevant factor).

 

What matters is the time being spent at the moment, and that BOTH parties enjoy the company.

[neebleton 2940]

It seems like there's also an assumption in the other direction - when someone infrequently posts an ad, when she does, it must be a slow week/month/whatever.

[Boomer 33202]

I'm not sure what the point is about assuming volume. Every woman has a mix of tools to generate the volume of business she would like to attain. It's essentially the plan she has for herself and the marketing strategy that she employs. These might include pricing, posting ads, a regular refreshing of her pictures, creating a persona and rep on a board like CERB. The other way is to advertise.through multiple venues. If she can't meet her objectives then it's a simple matter of making adjustments based on the elasticity of supply and demand to find that sweet spot.

 

There are far more problematic assumptions that clients make which should be of concern. For instance, when someone shows up at your door having assumed you are offering a service because you haven't clear explained your restrictions, and they are frustrated that it's not on the menu, or using terms like PSE to generate business when it's not clearly defined and his assumptions don't quite match with yours.

 

I know that a number of ladies I see aren't terribly high volume. This isn't an assumption on my part, but me taking the time to find out.

[Nathalie L 112512]

but if she is offering in calls the issue becomes a discretion issue with a steady flow of traffic that may lead to noisy neighbours or possibly LE.

 

Very true, and definitely something to consider. I'm assuming most people take this into consideration when they book appointments (either as SPs/MAs or clients). It's in the providers best interest to make sure they don't jeopardize their incall.

 

A lot of girls offer both incalls and outcalls. I'm not sure if that would change much with this line of thinking? Thoughts? I'm really curious about what people think.

[LeeRichards 177238]

- I never considered frequent ad posting or shout outs a quantity booking thing but more of a smart marketing idea and also a timing thing...I know very well many of you gals are studying hard ;) or have jobs. For me your frequent posts and shout outs tell me more about you and your personalities and what you like ... this = me wanting you that much more :)

 

 

- High volume doesn't concern me in the slightest.... I just don't want to meet the next guy at the door.

 

- SEX IN PERSONAL LIFE !! That exists ??? ha ha

 

My assumption Nat ! - by the way you post and shout out you are an intelligent, remarkable, sexy, frisky and energetic young lady that I would luv luv luv to spend time with.....and I don't care who and how many you were with before me. It's all about you and me when we are together.

[Guest]

Hello, Nathalie

 

I consider myself a low volume escort. I will see one person a day or if I'm really in the mood two. I do this because I want to give the best service I can. For me I find that if I see more than the two in a day I start to not put the same effort into my service. When I worked out of hotels I had to see more than I usually do and I found that I couldn't maintain it for a long period of time but that's just me. I like to enjoy the experience as much as the clients do. I think that for many gentleman that's part of the fantasy. Is to have the women enjoy it as much as they do. If the sp can give a great service and has the energy I have no problem with that.

 

Even tho I run my business this way I have no problem with the higher level sp's. If they have the energy, they maintain good hygiene, give a great service and if they are discreet, why not? Who am I to judge anyone on how they run their business. I just try to focus on myself and how I run my business. If something doesn't work for me who am I to say that it won't work for anyone else.

[Nathalie L 112512]

I consider myself a low volume escort.

 

I consider myself a low-volume escort as well. Despite having a really flexible schedule with a lot of availability, I'm really busy with grad school, and my work as a teacher's assistant and research assistant.

 

I just find it unfortunate that some people want to see me specifically because of that, you know? It reflects those assumptions that are being made and sometimes it's disrespectful to other ladies. Like you, I think it's great if a SP is higher volume and has the emotional, mental, and physical energy for it and I don't think anyone has the right to make assumptions about the quality of her service on that basis.

 

Like most have already said, most women wouldn't sacrifice quality over quantity (Thanks for that line, Areez!)

[Andee 220524]

In Ottawa for example, because there are so many SPs, sometimes we may post that we are available say from 9 am until 6 pm, but that does not mean we are busy the entire time.

 

I am a low volume provider and sometimes I have to be available 12 hours in order to get 1 or 2 calls.

 

So, I agree. Don't make assumptions.

[Cleo Catra 178382]

Doing this doesn't mean she's booking 8 appointments in a day back-to-back and is a revolving door of sex, and even if she is, what's wrong with that? Sex is amazing, and if someone wants to work that much and has the energy and ability to do it, then that's great!

 

Love this! Seriously, as long as she gives you her all, who cares how many people she sees?

[Royalfun 55448]

Very true, and definitely something to consider. I'm assuming most people take this into consideration when they book appointments (either as SPs/MAs or clients). It's in the providers best interest to make sure they don't jeopardize their incall.

 

A lot of girls offer both incalls and outcalls. I'm not sure if that would change much with this line of thinking? Thoughts? I'm really curious about what people think.

 

Very good thread, Nathalie.

 

It's quite difficult for us, hobbiests, to assess the volume of activity that a SP is making. What is a high volume from a SP point of view ? For some it may be a few a week, for other a few a day.

 

Being in business myself( not in the SP business, lol), I consider that the best clientele is the one that is coming back, and for sure, this is where the money is.

 

From my hobbiest's point of view, my concerns are related to discretion and safety.

[Kubrickfan 12836]

I accept the premise that if someone should not assume that someone who advertises a lot is a "high volume provider" or anything like that.

 

But is it any of my business, if I would prefer to see a lady that doesn't see many people, to consider that if she advertises that? Heck yes!!! That is a decision I can make based upon that factor, or whether I like their ad, their postings on cerb, their photos, their dress, lipstick, cologne, etc., etc., etc..

 

And I do prefer to see ladies that limit their visits because for me ... personally ... I have had much better visits with ladies that dont see many clients per day. Frankly, I have had some downright bad experiences, in years past, especially with agencies that seem to move their ladies through visits with all the subtlety of a busy airport. Whether a lady chooses to advertise that she is a low volume, or high volume for that matter, provider, or remains silent on the issue is their own choice, and I respect that. And it certainly will never be the only factor, but I consider it a plus.

[CristyCurves 169032]

I never thought about this until I saw other providers posting in their ads-I'm not a revolving door, refering to high volume as a bad thing. Perhaps this is why some men may think this as well. Really making any assumptions about this business and those in it is not a good idea as eveyone works, advertises,charges, plays differently. There are many days I've put up an ad then decided not to work, there are days when I don't have to advertise because I've been booked ahead of time. Some days I'll see 3 men other days 1. Some nights 2 some 4. It all depends on my energy levels, horniness and wether or not I have things going on in my personal life. I don't like it when anyone presumes that because someone advertises on "lesser" sites, once a day or once a week, perhaps isn't as articulate as some, is older, younger, has a little or alot of reco's, that they may be this or that. After all you never know someone until you meet them, experience them and hear their story, even then there may be more to learn. Everyone deserves a chance to blossom in their own way and do" this" their own way, without criticism and assumptions.

[lipualipua 4704]

Fortunateone : you wrote: "I do have a friend who will get up early or nap THRU THE DAY,...."

 

Well, how many are like your friend? It is possible to find exceptions for just about anything but this does not detract from basing statistical outcomes on a representative sample of SPs and in the situation at hand, I am sure that most SPs will be like most "civilian" women in their sleep patterns.

[Athos 108589]

At the end of the day it's up to the lady to figure out how best to organize her business.

 

I really don't think you can assume anything at all from where, or how often a lady advertises. Assumptions are likely mistaken. If a lady interests you, see her. If not, don't. There can be a range of factors that determine whether you, as a client, are interested. That might include how her ads are written, what her pictures are like, etc., etc. Much of that is purely subjective. The only thing that matters is that during and after the session, everyone is pleased and that there was a mutually beneficial exchange of time and money.

 

Porthos

[craig101 3213]

When you ASSUME you make an ASS out of U and ME!

[kechara 2526]

Just got home Nathalie and read this one. I don't make assumptions on how many ads or posts are made in the shout out box by a SP. I just look at that as the way they have chosen to do their own marketing.

 

For other reason I do believe a few SPs I have seen are higher volume ones. Would I repeat seeing them? Yes, in fact I have with one.

 

I don't base my decision on who I am going to see by the volume of clients they see. I would be lying if I didn't say I have been curious at times; however I also know it is none of my business and would never ask. I think curiosity is just part of human nature at times.

 

I also have in my plans to see a few cerb ladies who I believe are lower volume providers. Just hope I book in time to be able to see them when I want to..:) One who is not always advertising i was just going to send a PM to her a week or 2 before I was interested in seeing her asking if she was going to be available at this time. Worst that could happen is she says no.

 

One of the reason I have always assumed that an SP might not be posting ads at times is that she is busy with other things happening in her life. I have always realized that some SPs are studying, or could have other things happening in their lives.

[Guest Ou**or**n]

Very interesting thread.

 

First, I totally agree that if you've had a great experience with a lady then obviously it didn't matter how many other clients she saw that day. I also completely agree that advertised availability by established providers does not correlate to volume.

 

However, before seeing a new lady for the first time I will consider a great number of factors. In the past, a large number of my poor experiences were with ladies seeing a high volume of clients per day. Sometimes it was direct causation - they complained about some parts of their bodies being too sore or sensitive due to seeing to many guys that day and this negatively impacted our time together. In other cases it was more a case of correlation between mechanical service, being rushed or the lady not enjoying herself and the number of clients she was seeing that day. In this thread Kubrickfan has made a similar observation and Peachy indicated that from a provider perspective that she felt her service was best at low volumes.

 

Now some ladies can see higher volumes of clients per day without this being an issue. That is also a very true fact. Therefor when it comes to seeing a particular lady, I try and make my best guess (assumption if you will) as to her both her client volume and how her service may be affected by volume. I consider it fully within my rights to make these guesses and apply them to my decision making process. It is a private transaction with my own money between myself and the provider. It's not like there is a 'get your money back guarantee'. It is not a corporate hiring or a government contract which requires more objectivity. The cost to see that lady for one hour certainly takes me many, many hours to earn and it is fully within my right to make that decision using whatever criteria I choose. I may be an incorrect assumption but it certainly within my rights to be wrong.

 

So when I look at lady and the issue of volume I consider several factors. One aspect is to make an educated guess as to the likely volume of clients she may be seeing. As Nathalie has correctly pointed out - looking at advertising is not a truly accurate way to this for the reasons she outlined earlier in this thread. However if I see a new, popular provider advertising frequently I assume she is seeing a high volume of clients. When ladies are new to this business they sometimes look to maximize the money they make and then plan to leave. This happens. If the provider is well established and doing this on an on-going basis then their advertising will rarely correlate to their volume. I also look at the type of location the lady is using. I find ladies renting hotel rooms for the day typically will have a higher daily volume due to the need to cover the hotel room. I find ladies with established incalls tend to have lower daily volumes as they can recover their costs over a longer timeframe.

 

Once I've guessed at a ladies likely volume I'll decide whether that will have any affect on her service. As a general rule my experience has shown me it does and as a general rule I'll see lower volume ladies as a result. If I miss some ladies as a result that is my loss. However I'll also have avoided a number of negative experiences.

 

The one exception I'll make is the higher end travelling ladies. Due to the nature of their travel and hotel costs by nature they need to see a higher volume of clients. However they only are able to function in this area of the industry if they can do this and provide good service. I have seen many travelling ladies that will have seen a decent volume of men that day and still gotten excellent service. However I will qualify this by saying this is for the well reviewed higher-end ladies who have been in the business a while. I am not referring to the 'debutante' ladies that pop up here from Montreal for a couple of days to rent a hotel and pump through guys at the higher rates found here in Ottawa compared to Montreal.

 

Earlier in this thread Nathalie asked for thoughts. These are mine and are my own subjective thoughts based on my experiences. I use them to make my own personal spending decisions and keep them to myself. Additionally these thoughts are in response to Nathalie's question regarding volume and this is only one of many, many factors I consider before seeing a lady.

[Isabella Gia (Banned) 53881]

Very good thread and very good points have been made here. I think this resumes in a word in the thread's title ... Assuming which is a terrible mistake most of us make a lot more than we should. Not only how often a lady posts ads has nothing to do with the number of gentlemen she hosts or visits but what one considers low volume may be high volume in someone else's opinion and vice-versa.

 

 

In my personal experience, as some have said here advertising has no connection with how many visitors I choose to see. I may advertise twice in a day and do not accept any of the inquiries or just a couple. Or sometimes I just don't advertise for days because I've already been booked so for people to assume that not seeing my ad would mean I'm taking time off would also be wrong. Bottom line as has been said ask the lady you are interested to meet, read comments about her as IMO more than how many guests she meets in a day you want to know 2 things: How clean she is (in personal hygiene and linens, etc.) and how careful she is when it comes to discretion.

 

I consider myself a low-volume escort as well. Despite having a really flexible schedule with a lot of availability, I'm really busy with grad school, and my work as a teacher's assistant and research assistant.

 

Thjis is also very true! I think most ladies do not have a minimum or maximum number of guys they will see in a week (at least I don't) but type of men I would not see even on a lazy day and type of men I'd love to accomodate even when I may have to reschedule some things I planned for my day.

 

Like most have already said, most women wouldn't sacrifice quality over quantity (Thanks for that line, Areez!)

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

This business is up and down. Some days the phone is ringing off the hook and other days it isn't. An SP can do however many appts she can in a day if the business is there and the next day there may be nothing. Some days, posting more frequently comes with the territory. It doesn't mean an SP is a higher volume and/or desparate. I like to make a quota for myself for the week and I always try to adhere to it so if it means posting a few more times in the shoutbox, of course I'm going to do it especially if it is slow. I don't work for an agency and I have other things going on so in a day I don't tend to take that many appts.

 

It isn't really anyone's business how many appts SPs do but it doesn't make them a low quality provider if they are high volume. And then again, what is considered high volume? More than 2 appts? As long as she provides a good service there is nothing wrong with it as long as she isn't worn out herself. And to those who think they don't want to see an SP because she may have seen too many guys that day ( which they can't prove anyways) that's what showers are for!

 

I also have to say something about being high volume v.s. low volume re: being the first appt of the day. This doesn't mean squat as she may be seeing you after a night of wild sex with the bf/SO or an overnight client. There is no SP cleaning fairy ( thanks Phaedrus!) who magically makes us clean overnight. LOL. If an SP does high volume, there are no guarantees you will ever know this unless they tell you ( or she is visibly worn out or falling asleep) and I don't think a client will get the truth because it's rude to ask in the first place.

 

I think the best thing to do is research an SP here and see what she offers and how she books appts, etc. That should give you an indication and if she is your type based on what yòu`re looking for. However, my advice is don't pass over someone who does half hour appts instead of just hour appts. Sometimes the business isn't there for hour only appts anymore and also depends on the SP's schedule and how much she wants to work. Moral of the story, don't judge an ad by how many times she posts or if she has a more aggressive ad posting history. You may be missing out!

[LeeRichards 177238]

Very interesting thread.

 

The one exception I'll make is the higher end travelling ladies. Due to the nature of their travel and hotel costs by nature they need to see a higher volume of clients.

 

Not picking anything here...just offering my take on this... I meet only with travelling ladies as per my location and preference unless I travel. Higher end? It would only be my opinion. It is my opinion however and experience as well that most ...not all.... ladies visit with a lower volume of clients on the road but extended hour visits. Whether it be by reputation, attraction, or repeat clients. But that is just my experience.

[Hector17 9215]

I haven't been at this too long, but from the very beginning I believed it best not to ask a lot of personal questions, firstly, because I dont think I would really want to know the answers.

I did have an experience where, after the playtime, the info about how the phone was "ringing of the hook" was being advised, and I politely asked her to stop expounding on that topic because, I quite frankly, didn't want to know. I explained that I dont ask questions like that because I dont want to know those answers.

All I care about is if I enjoyed myself.

For my favourite times I find I can create a fantasy fairly easily that doesn't even include the thoughts of her even seeing other men. It's funny because sometimes it only hits me when I see a reco for that lady from another gentleman that they do.

It's pretty simple for me.... in that I cant say I have ever had a bad encounter, there is nobody that I wouldn't repeat with, but in reality I do repeat often with the ones that I have connected with the best.

I dont ask or guess anything about how they handle their "business", and in fact I wish all the best success for them because I really do like and admire them. That may seem at cross purposes with what would seem to be in my best interests in the context of this thread, but all I know is that I have enjoyed myself.

I have no idea how many clients my favourites see in a day...dont want to know, and dont care...