Client lists?

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Why does Terri Jean Bedford, a long retired SP, maintain a list of her clients? I assume it is somewhere other than in her memory if she is threatening to "out" certain clients. She better be able to back that up with credible evidence, don't you think? Otherwise they could just deny.

 

It leads me to wonder, do SP's keep details of their clients? I assumed, maybe naively, that once our encounter ended you just deleted our texts/emails until the next time I contacted you. If I'm seeing you monthly you don't need records to remember me and if it's been a year or more you might want to maintain the same protocols for a new client. You can always fake remembering me if you feel the need to, right?

 

Maybe I'm off base here but there have been a few prominent SP's who have talked or blogged about releasing client names and I want to know why they even have lists of clients? Maybe you keep a list of your regulars so you can keep in touch when you're in town? The rest of us don't really see a reason why you might hold on to our details as we wouldn't want you to contact us out of the blue anyway.

 

If you do keep lists and had a request from a client to remove all correspondence with them, would you?

 

Sorry for being blunt but I've been wondering this ever since talk of SP's "outing" clients got started on here. Given c-36 I'm even more curious.

 

Thank you for any light you can shed on this. My apologies in advance if no one keeps a list of their clients.

[fortunateone 156618]

Why are you so ready to believe she actually did maintain and keep any kind of list?

 

I don't know what the protocol on agencies is outside of Vancouver, but city biz licensing requires agencies to have full client details recorded and saved for a period of time. Record keeping is a requirement of that business that does not seem to be required of other types of businesses, for example.

 

 

old story http://www.walnet.org/csis/news/toronto_99/torstar-991007.html

[Boomer 33202]

I think probably the idea of outing clients was done in the heat of the moment, and should be taken with a grain of salt. I believe that the ladies would practice discretion in outing their clients as this would ruin their credibility if they did so.

 

As for maintaining a client list, as a business owner they might keep records, although I don't think most do. You must remember that once you surrender the information you don't have any control of it. I wouldn't get too worried though as part of the fee is a guarantee of discretion.

[Malika Fantasy 144625]

I only keep records of no show/bad dates and the like.

 

I do however keep my previous agenda and a calendar

 

but the most in it is something like

 

"Steve 2hrs at 4pm"

 

and after the appointment I put if I would repeat with this person or not, sometime they are some people that while are not bad dates I just didn't connect

[squirtingmilf 1982]

Some ladies keep detailed clients for many reasons, if you are licensed you are required to keep them, especially agencies. Depending on what city you live in some ladies require a referral, so they too would have to keep them (that's becoming more common now, for referrals).

 

And most of us maintain a blacklist of sorts and I definitely keep all of those to save time not answering the phone the next time said person calls (they always do for some reason) and wherein someone is really bad, it's used as a warning to other ladies.

 

Terri-Jean's been around for a long time and if your client is in the public eye, it's not too hard to remember things about your encounters, when they're a constant reminder.

[Ice4fun 78407]

Starting to think we are a very paranoid group... I kind of see it this way... I did my research... contacted a lady... booked an appointment... shared some basic information with her and then went and had an amazing encounter... i trusted her when i did all of that and basicly i don't see a reason why that would change... in fact i have kept the same basic info i got from her so that i can book again if the opportunity arises.

 

I trusted her at the beginning... felt safe enough to meet her and get naked... I'm ok with her in the future ithink.

 

Just my opinion

[Andee 220524]

I only keep track of no shows and guys I don't wish to see or repeat with (for whatever reason).

 

For me, it's like the old saying "no news, is good news".

 

On the topic of outing clients, any SP willing to "out" a client publicly especially for political purposes would not only be outing herself but basically would be committing business suicide and to what end? Not like there's a "prize" at the end for doing so.

 

As for ladies who keep detailed lists of their clients, I am sure they are not going to admit that on a general forum. Just saying....

 

Not directing to this to the OP, but some clients have to relax. We appreciate your business but you are not that important that most of us are dreaming up ways to fuck with your life.

[mrgreen760 37785]

I'm not the brightest bulb so I'm not sure I've read some of these posts correctly. The jist I get is no one or few keep a client contact list. So I see some one and if I contacted them again they'd have no idea who I was and wouldn't have saved emails addresses or cell phone numbers? Seems unlikely to me.

 

Feel free to correct me if I've read or understood this incorrectly.

 

Peace

MG

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

With all due respect, this is contributing to the fear mongering. My apologies if anyone disagree with me. It's interesting that only these types of threads are coming up now since Ms. Bedford had decided to threaten politicians who she may have had dealings with. This could happen at any point with some unsavory SP and make things worse by wrecking your home life which is just as bad as a criminal record. Why is it that much different now?

 

It now sets a bad precedent for us especially now when we have to in a way almost defend ourselves because of the actions of someone else who has nothing to lose because she has retired. Many ladies have built a solid reputation that may be viewed as questionable now and if she can be trusted because someone decided to use these threats in front of the media towards people in powerful and influential postions. I guess there is no other way to really try to grab a man by the balls is there?

 

Imo, these types of threads contribute to this sort of thing.

[Cute0aza0Button 21399]

I'm trying not to get too wrapped up in the c36 circus. I watched it in the senate and, if I'm bring honest, it angered me. What angered me more was some peoples response to it. To see how so many have become so paranoid all of a sudden when this didn't even cross your minds when escorts were the ones at higher risk of prosecution. I hope that this response is just because it is at the forefront of our minds and not because the risk seeks to have shifted

 

 

I do not mean to come off rude. I'm just making an observation, this is not directed at anyone.

 

 

...and I keep a list of bad clients or those who have wasted my time.

[Guest S****r]

It is probably pretty safe to assume most SPs keep a bad date, rude date, NCNS, WOT list just to avoid a repeat of such a visit. It has no malintent. Just saves time and aggravation. But even that is usually just the phone number or email address that was used.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Hobby phones and hobby emails are a must. Of course I keep basic info of my guys. How could I possibly give a girlfriend experience if I don't know who's calling me? I can't remember everyone's voice, name and phone number. Do you know how many Tom, Dick and Harrys' I know?

 

I don't keep any detailed info like address, last name, or what we did together. Just enough to be able to remember you.

 

If we've never met, unless you've pissed me off somehow, I have no record of you.

 

I just wish everyone would remember that it's not going to be like the U.S. where the provider risks being arrested too. I cannot figure out any GOOD OR LOGICAL reason any provider would use this information for LE. It makes no sense.

[Ice4fun 78407]

You know there are not that many options... continue to trust the ladies like in the past... be sensible and continue the fun or over react... don't trust and just put your dick away and go home. Relax

[kerrixoxo 33719]

If you are worried about outing: unless you are Harper or MacKay, nobody cares about you (Note: This isn't an endorsement to out clients. But that's the reality. Who was the Alberta MP arrested for prostitution in the states again? If you remember his name, I congratulate you).

 

Thank you Nicole for calling out the fear mongering.

 

Just remember to be polite and nice before, during, and after your encounters and you won't have to worry about being on a bad date list! Besides, these are safety tools and if the police force a sex worker to hand over this information to avoid arrest, it just speaks volumes to the dangers involved with c-36 and it doesn't help the argument supporting the Bill. It provides support AGAINST the Bill.

 

As I like to say, do good and be good!

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Thank you for the replies. I appreciate that this is an annoying topic for some of you and I appreciate the civility.

 

I brought it up as I have always given my full name and cell number when booking and the only email address I have is my business one. You could google me and quickly see a picture of me, my business history, etc. I've never tried to hide my identity with an SP. I only book CERB women and usually only those that post and provide some insight to their personality. I trust them just like they can trust me. It's only after I read of a few "prominent" retired SP's who were considering releasing certain clients names that I even thought about discretion and how exposed my own neck was. I agree that I'm not likely to be "outed" by anyone I've seen. I'm not famous, although I do have movie star good looks!:). But, I'm also not Ostrich like when I see certain SP's discuss outing on this board. I start to ask myself how some politician could be reliably ID'd(with proof) if records aren't kept. You're not keeping any semen stained outfits, are you? :)

 

I guess once the law is passed we will all find our path forward and deal with the new reality.

 

Thanks and have a great day!

[kerrixoxo 33719]

Politicians are ID'd because people *know* who they are and they are usually arrested in the process. It has nothing to do with looks or seaman (lol) or outing by sex workers. Also, everything you are doing: seeing reputable ladies, following screening, etc. isn't going to get you arrested or outed.

[roamingguy 300292]

And one can't really compare what has happened in the U.S. with Canada

Prostitution for the most part is illegal in the United States. LE likely puts pressure on an escort to reveal her client list in exchange for reduced/no charges.

In Canada however, well until C36 becomes law, LE has no such leverage because prostitution is legal

And the ladies in the US who have revealed client's names, IMHO are not professional.

A rambling

 

RG

[Guest *Ste***cque**]

Thanks Kerri. I was more wondering about proving the identification of a client who saw an SP, not how they would know them. Otherwise he could just say he never saw an SP in his life and saying he did without proof is slander. I've edited my post to reflect your point.

 

RG, I'm not comparing US to Canada. Just expressing concern about outing in case I ever decided to run for the Conservatives. :)

[roamingguy 300292]

Thanks Kerri. I was more wondering about proving the identification of a client who saw an SP, not how they would know them. Otherwise he could just say he never saw an SP in his life and saying he did without proof is slander. I've edited my post to reflect your point.

 

RG, I'm not comparing US to Canada. Just expressing concern about outing in case I ever decided to run for the Conservatives. :)

 

I was just making a general comment, because there has been some revealing of clients in the United States. My comment was not directed at anything you posted

But thinking of running for the Conservatives, why, why, why.???..don't go to the dark side Luke LOL

 

RG :-)

[kerrixoxo 33719]

Thanks Kerri. I was more wondering about proving the identification of a client who saw an SP, not how they would know them. Otherwise he could just say he never saw an SP in his life and saying he did without proof is slander. I've edited my post to reflect your point.

 

RG, I'm not comparing US to Canada. Just expressing concern about outing in case I ever decided to run for the Conservatives. :)

 

That's *how* clients are verified: people know them or they are arrested. All arrests are public knowledge. If a provider says she saw you in the public or media, nobody cares unless you are Harper or MacKay. ;)

 

And as others have noted, it's not very professional to out a client and a reputable lady wouldn't do such a thing.

[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

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[Cara Silver 32412]

Of course some of the ladies have client lists!

 

I don't write out a list on parchment with a broken crayon and nail it to the wall, vowing to ruin the lives of these clients but I do have an e-list:

 

*to remember what I wore so I don't wear the same thing again the next time

*Little details about the client if the client has a very common name (like Mike or Steve)

*Some conversation/interaction with the client that we both really enjoyed.

*To make dorky notes like 'great fun!' or 'loves history too!' or 'very proud of his daughter who just got into law school'. A few notes like this can bring back the whole experience when I next hear from this man.

 

I like to think that TJ Bedford made that statement out of desperation because she wasn't being heard, and not out of real intent. If her plan was in fact to reveal the names publicly, I would not support that.

[Amelia Fox 9064]

I keep track of everyone. Regardless of status. I do this for reasons being, who are you. Some people change there contacts, others just do it for there own reasoning( beyond my comprehension)

I would never contact anyone without them stating it's okay on this date/time etc... As goes for outing a client, I'd be more freaked out about him outing me a as well in some sort of sick retalitation. Old saying still implies do to others as you wish upon yourself.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

One other thing I forgot to mention is if an SP has met you before and she doesn't have you in her phone and doesn't remember you, dont take offense to it. It has happened to me a few times.

 

If ladies keep track of clients it's to remember who you are for next time. I always tell my clients to delete texting history and phone numbers.

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[Operaguy561 110]

Why does Terri Jean Bedford, a long retired SP, maintain a list of her clients? I assume it is somewhere other than in her memory if she is threatening to "out" certain clients. She better be able to back that up with credible evidence, don't you think? Otherwise they could just deny.

 

It leads me to wonder, do SP's keep details of their clients? I assumed, maybe naively, that once our encounter ended you just deleted our texts/emails until the next time I contacted you. If I'm seeing you monthly you don't need records to remember me and if it's been a year or more you might want to maintain the same protocols for a new client. You can always fake remembering me if you feel the need to, right?

 

Maybe I'm off base here but there have been a few prominent SP's who have talked or blogged about releasing client names and I want to know why they even have lists of clients? Maybe you keep a list of your regulars so you can keep in touch when you're in town? The rest of us don't really see a reason why you might hold on to our details as we wouldn't want you to contact us out of the blue anyway.

 

If you do keep lists and had a request from a client to remove all correspondence with them, would you?

 

Sorry for being blunt but I've been wondering this ever since talk of SP's "outing" clients got started on here. Given c-36 I'm even more curious.

 

Thank you for any light you can shed on this. My apologies in advance if no one keeps a list of their clients.

I think this is well though out....certainly food for thought. Thanks