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This is part 2 to a thread I started long ago about painful DATY and digits. I tried to implement a system wherein I told each and every client the value of safety and comfort during those activities. After a while I stopped having that conversation because clients got to know me on cerb and through my website and blog. I am a woman who speaks up. I met a client this week for whom "it hurts" was an aphrodisiac. I would say "I'm sore" "that's enough" "STOP IT" and he rolled his eyes and threw up his hands. I said, stay away from that area entirely, but his fingers gravitated towards my vagina every 2 minutes, as if I wouldn't notice stabbing pain. I just want to say: I am a person. The vagina is a very delicate area. Money does not offer anyone VIP access to my body. Money does not buy anyone the right to treat escorts as blow up dolls. Not every woman can sustain, or enjoy, repeated and aggressive DATY. When I say it hurts, it hurts-- it is not my way of 'cutting down' on my services, or 'cheating' the client. Instituting boundaries is a key part of being a happy escort. It is not a sign that I am uptight, prude, chaste, damaged, or other words. There is nothing wrong with me if I don't like what the client is doing. I have found that some clients tend to see the escort as defective if she does not like what he is doing. There is an automatic assumption that something is wrong with her. It's not that I need to 'relax', 'take it easy', or 'go with the flow'. There is nothing inherently defective in my sexual organs or personality just because I don't like certain styles of daty or sex. I may be an escort but the thing that sustains my business is my personality, not my ability to orgasm at the slightest touch, or my ability to withstand pain for the sake of the client's enjoyment. I am so sore right now, and feel so low. Yes, I will once again become defensive about daty. I just wanted to explain why. ps. This was a non-cerb client. This thread is my way of seeking support, not an attempt to call out anybody. I have never met a cerb guy who treated me like this-- thank you for that.

This whole area should NEVER be assumed is ok. It would be like having someone stick their finger in your eye, then asking later if that is ok, and/or ignoring the fact that you tell them it is not ok and just keep on doing it. As far as part of GFE at all, I would say no. It might be something a greek provider is open to. I would put it as part of a PSE tho, for those who offer it. Like anything, this is something you should be asking about before you start poking your fingers or tongue into anything at all lol. Also, be extremely careful of trying to combine DATO with DATY. Transferring bacteria from anal to pussy can be extremely harmful, in terms of infections. I would say the same thing about combining DATO with kissing. Just be aware of what you are doing and try to take some precautions; also to be aware of the "ick" factor. I am not too sure of how many people, m or f,, who would welcome the idea of kissing someone who has been licking their ass. A little courtesy and common sense goes a long way. There are far too many unpleasant byproducts of DATO, like exposure to parasites and hepatitis, that make it a really bad idea. But along with that is the fact that many people simply do not want anyone poking around down there, find the sensation unpleasant, and if you are expecting someone to enjoy what you are doing, you should know that going in to always ask first before you do anything whatsoever. And I suggest that if you are a fan of giving and receiving DATO, the very first thing you should get are the hepatitis shots. This will ensure, at least for some part, your continued good health. Oh, and in case anyone was confused by my post, if anyone ever tries to do this with me (consider, I tell you up front it is a no go zone) I will hurt you lol. Be prepared for a very strong and negative reaction from anyone you try this on without asking first.

HST Rant "What is the HST" "The five per cent federal Goods and Services Tax (GST) is being combined with the eight per cent Provincial Sales Tax (PST) to create a single 13 per cent HST." In recently receiving a couple of bills, I noticed that the GST,PST and HST were all charged. Now correct me if I am wrong but the way it is stated that the government was creating a single tax instead they are creating an additional tax. This T shirt sums up my feelings about it all.

Absolutely Megan, I always like the discussion period out of the way prior to the engagement. Nothing like ruining a very intimate time together.

It too was wondering about that remark, if it is a joke it's not funny at all. Communication , open and honest is key to an enjoyable session of wakkaa wakkaa, especialy when dealing with activity around the "o"

The "act of prostitution" is "Selling of sexual services" and not the "purchasing of sexual services" this is why the incall is illegal but the outcall is fine. The laws are crafty and worded in a way that makes the general public think that prostitution is illegal but in fact outcall prostitution is very much legal for both the man and the woman as long as nothing is discussed or done in a public place or a place where the prostitute brings the client. The "practice of acts of indecency" I beleive was put in to include such places as dominatrix dungeons, rub and tugs, peep shows, etc... where they may not actually have sex with clients but perform some sexual arousing service. Stripclubs however are legal but debate over the VIP rooms (Grinding, lap dances, girl touching herself, girl touching another girl, man touching himself, etc...) are always being challenged as acts of indecency and at times prostitution if a dancer actually offers a undercover police officer sexual services in the club - many clubs have been put up on charges for common bawdy house with the acts of indecency being the reason for the charge and not actually prostitution offenses. The problem is that it is almost impossible for a court (judge) to say that a persons choice to participate in such things such as S&M acts as a indecent act as they do not make decisions based on moral reasons or personal choices. It's a very hard charge to make stick I bet. I feel that this is one of those discretionary laws that leave way too much room for debate and are really just useless words added to the actual law. Gives the police a little more to "charge" the person or place with and then the courts can decide... hits the offending parties where it counts as the legal fee's would be substantial as it's a criminal code charge.

"It is what it is"...your own comfort level. To be quite frank, all I ever do is in calls. I never worried about it, the fact remains, if you are seeing an Indy who is very discrete about it, it works well for both parties. The mature Indy that does not have that "revolving door" there is nothing to be worried about. I never had the paranoid syndrome over the many years. So thanks to those discrete ladies.;-)

How about a skin tight black dress, heels and nothing underneath???

CERB is meant to be a "positive and friendly environment for all" - so posting the content of a debate, or someone trashing another individual or group is likely not in keeping with the CERB culture. Just my two cents but the best authority on this are the mods. Cheers.

I remember not too long ago when the only info you had was a newspaper ad with a phone number. Sites like this plus the sp's website is a godsend and should be read thoroughly. The more research you do will benefit both you and the sp and should result in a great time.

mmm.. are your brothers cute/available? I was the big sister so I was the brat..who tickled my younger siblings to death. oh.. I just had a bad memory of an uncle who tickled me til I peed myself. oops..