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I can't believe we are even having a conversation comparing MA's to minimum wage workers and justifying not tipping a waiter/waitress. Maverick maybe you have never worked in the service industry, but your comments are disrespectful to those who do. Bottom line is that if you don't have the money to tip an MA you shouldn't visit an MA. Same as if you don't have the money to tip a server at a bar or restaurant, you shouldn't eat or drink at that bar or restaurant. Many of the MA's I have visited are beautiful, smart, intelligent women who are doing this to put themselves through school, support their family etc. Many of them expose themselves to great risks and work long hours just for the chance that they will make money. I don't think any of them would do what they do if it paid minimum wage. I learned a while ago to never judge a persons reasons for what they do until you have walked a mile in their shoes. You would be SHOCKED to find out some of the history of some of the MA's in this town. As for hospitality workers, there are cases where you receive bad service and you don't feel a tip is justified. In those cases, put yourself in the position of the server. Everyone is entitled to a bad day, and these people deal with the public day in and day out. Many of the people they deal with are drunk and rude. These people survive on tips, and that is their main source of income. When you directly impact a persons ability to make money and support themselves I would expect them to be in a bad mood and not provide the next person great service. If you get bad service it is entirely possible that the person before you didn't tip appropriately and put the person in a foul mood. Rather than continuing that why not provide an appropriate tip, or even a generous tip and see if that turns the persons mood around. It usually works for me! Bottom line, dining at restaurants, drinking at bars, and visiting MA's are all part of my lifestyle that I consider to be a premium, luxury service. If I didn't have the money for an appropriate tip in any of these cases, I wouldn't seek out any of these services. I have been lucky enough to find myself in a good financial situation, but my mamma always taught me to respect and value other people and don't assume anything about people because of the career they choose. SP2010

Thank you for your apology. While the same word is used, the "tips" waitresses receive are nothing like massage. The tips that waitresses receive are above and beyond their regular pay and they are supposed to reflect a job well done. The "tips" that massage providers get are the bare payment for their services. So really, we shouldn't be using the word tip. WHOA. I vehemently disagree. Just because we "choose" a job doesn't mean we have to accept to be treated poorly. This is the same justification used by people who say "Street sex workers know the risk they are taking so they need to accept that violence is a part of the work." I don't care if I "chose" my job, I still deserve to have the same rights and respect as everybody else. I won't "accept" to be treated badly and I will stand up for myself! I hired a lawyer and went up against my strip club and a Canadian association that deals with strip clubs. They were exploitive to me and other workers. Sure you may say, "You knew this when you took the job so accept it" but I didn't. I fought it, made my point, and improved one aspect of working conditions for MANY other dancers in Ottawa and in Ontario. Sure I could have "quit" as you seem to suggest or not "chosen" the job because of the crappy working conditions, but I didn't and I'm happy I didn't. I won't post the details here because if a strip club were to read this, they wouldn't hire me. I would like to keep the option to dance open. If anyone would like to ask me about this experience, I would be happy to share it with you in person at a social or during a session. You also say "There is nothing keeping you there" which shows a gross lack of understanding of many women in the sex industry. A large number of us are mothers, students, etc. and many don't see other work as a viable option. Imagine being a single mother with a couple children to feed and then try telling her "There is nothing keeping you here." There are also many other factors keeping women in the sex industry. One big one is stigma which I touched on in my first post to you. What if you are you "outed" as a sex worker? What if you have a criminal charge? Good luck finding another job! Also if you have a huge resume gap, that could seriously impact your ability to find a job. When you've been out of the conventional work force for awhile, it's difficult to get back in.

Well done, Chanel. Your first year has passed quickly and with so much fun, pleasure and orgasms. Not to mention meeting new folks and making friends. :bigclap: May you continue to enjoy yourself :makeout:while at the same time making others happy and eager to be with you. As Angela mentions, you exude sensuality and eroticism. They are in every fibre of your enchanting and responsive body. :shehot: May your time with us be long, eventful, exciting and rewarding for you. My very best wishes for a grand second year. :spank:

What many clients don't realize is that just a short note in a provider's existing recommendation bumps it up to the first page where it is seen many more members & 'casual members' whom may not search as deeply into them.

Maverick - I found it offensive that you compared massage to a minimum wage job. They are absolutely not comparable! Massage is much riskier than minimum wage jobs, and there are a couple other points to consider: -We also don't get any of the protections offered to minimum wage workers under the Employment Standards in Ontario. -We also take financial risks, as most massage providers invest in their business for supplies (even if they work for a studio) and income is not guaranteed. -There is no pay if we find ourselves sick or disabled and unable to work. -We take the risk that our friends, family, and community will find out what we do, and future employment could be at risk if it's discovered we work in the sex industry. -We take legal risks. We all know about the massage parlour bust in Gatineau and that the city gives out fines to anyone operating a massage parlour without a license, including to independents! -Massage providers work harder than most minimum wage jobs. I've done several jobs, and massage is hard work! The minimum wage jobs I did when I was young were easy, but I put MY ALL into my massages. -There is also "downtime" to consider. We wash towels, clean, solicit business or deal with our managers, makeup, hair, respond to phone calls and emails, etc. We don't get paid for this time. Also, at a parlour, a woman may show up for an 8-hour shift and only see one client that whole time. Even if she makes $160 for that hour, it still only works out to $20 for the time she was there. Minimum wage workers are paid for every hour they are at work and that is required by law, even if there is downtime where there is no work. The high pay of massage providers is well-deserved. Also to add, I don't like how people can sometimes assume that the only other option to work for sex workers is minimum wage. I have a university degree and I have a unique skill that I teach. I work at one of the universities as a research assistant, and I also teach. I make $30-40/hour depending on the task. Many sex workers have the education and skills necessary to have work outside of the sex industry that is considerably above minimum wage.

Disclaimer: I realize that the majority of you are paying for a sexual service and that your needs should be met within the boundaries of the escort in question. That is the service I am providing. However, that being said, I would like to call attention to what I like to refer to as "jack-hammering." This is basically extended penetrative sex and nothing else. You may be convinced that good sex requires only penetration and stamina--as well all know, women want a man who can last (I hope you can sense the sarcasm there), or perhaps it is purely selfish on your part, you do want to get your money's worth after all. So you pound your paid sex partner, over and over, squeezing in every possible available second. In which case, I am not a blow-up doll. I am not an object solely for your use. Keep in mind, I do not think it is a problem, for example, if you would like to simply pay to receive a blowjob, provided you realize the skill and time involved in administering a good blowjob. And I do not think penetrative sex itself is bad. But if you are interested in engaging in a full range of sexual behaviour, please realize that "sex" does not simply equal penetration for as long as humanly possible. After awhile it is painful, un-stimulating and rather boring. If a woman is not turned on, she doesn't create those delicious lubricating fluids that can make penetrative sex so wonderful. So take the time to pay attention to things like kissing and groping and licking and nibbling and so on. If the first thing you're going for is penetration, you have skipped so many amazing, naughty fun things to do to one another. While we are providing a very intimate service, aimed at generating your pleasure and satisfaction, we have emotions, and physical limits. So keep that in mind the next time you're with your favourite lady. Happy pooning!

Hello Cerbites, Mark your calendars , here is advance notice so there are no excuses for not coming. Feb 10th in Ottawa is the Unofficial Cerb Valentines Social. Don't bother MOD about it, it is put on by members and not by CERB itself. More info will be coming as we get closer to the date, just wanted anyone who wants to come to be able to come. Thanks Ottanon (Ottawa Anonymous) - I will need help with this one. Especially different ends of town where people can pick up tickets. Perhaps we will do something for the Food Cupboard this time. FYI- In response to some questions I have had. I do not make any money off of this, in fact the last social cost me out of pocket about $250 (and i did not even get a lapdance for that :) ). I bought the food that kept coming , all the party favors and the nice tip that was given to the waitress. If anyone else wants to take over, be my guest.

I have known Chanel since we were in our twenties and believe me the thought or inclination of being an SP back then was never in our vocabulary. Chanel has always oozed sexuality and has never been afraid to explore her sexually and experiment with different things. So when she approached me last year to ask what I thought about her getting into the game, my immediate response was "what took you so long to decide?" She is probably the only person I have ever met who I would say without a doubt is a "natural born SP" if there ever was one. So the best I could do for her was encourage her to be the best she could be. I told her to just be herself and here we are! Congratulations on passing the one year mark. I wish you many more (and lots of orgasms). You go girl!

Not sure if anyone pointed this out but the article mentions "condo's". So, unless your referring to a MP renting a unit from a condo owner, no you can not evict a home owner from their house. For a rental unit, I don't believe it's a simple eviction for disturbance. I believe there is a legitimate process a landlord must follow to evict a tenant for any reason. Some reasons may be easier to proceed with; however, all are time consuming to the landlord.

I'm of the opinion that if these people are being as disruptive as the news article portrays them, then the condominium corporation should warn them to stop, and if they don't, have them evicted. From my conversation with my lawyer, it wouldn't be that difficult to do. I don't understand why people are using cases like these to show why prostitution should still be criminalized. I think that bawdy houses and massage parlours that are disruptive to residents should be treated the same way as any other disruption. Should college students who have large & loud music drinking parties be subjected to bawdy house or similar charges? Does it really matter if disruptive drunken guests are there to party or there to see a worker? Why do people think that prostitution needs "special" laws? All "problems" of prostitution (disruptiveness, abuse, trafficking, underage, drugs, etc.) can be addressed with existing laws.

Wow! Girls, a HUGE thanks for your words... I don't know what's up with my reco... Guys repeat again and again (I have issues meeting my favorites because of time issues - I wish there was 25 hours in a day...), but nobody's writting on my review... I've been told that it was that everything has been said, but even there, leaving a comment, even if it's two words, makes a huge difference, and make it easier to find for newbies... Please guys, help us out a bit...

well Meg, I'm a contractor in the building and renovation field. It's like any service industry. Even yours. There's good ones and bad ones, expensive ones and cheap ones. The good ones are usually busy so you have to book ahead and pay a fair price for the work. They will keep you informed regarding their schedule and do a good job. Just like you do. There are contractor review boards just like ours and sometimes you have to do your homework. There's a lot of unskilled people out there calling themselves contractors and also a lot of rip off artists just like in your business so check around, ask for references and when you find someone that works for you keep him or her.

Not to hijack this thread but a growing trend is that tips in restaurants are not just being shared (with the buss boy, bar tender and dishwasher) but the house is taking a cut of the tips to cover their costs. Credit card issuers may take the first 3 to 5%. I now ask in advance how it works and if the house takes a cut I pay the tip in cash.

If you are looking for a massage without extras, then why not go and see a Registered Massage Therapist. I would think that opting to seeing an MA implies you would be looking for extras. That is how the ladies make their money.

I will occassionally check out some home made style porn on the web I guess I'm a bit of a voyeur, so I tend to like this stuff a little more. Any of you CERB ladies ever put a homemade clip of yourself out there? Carrie Moon mentioned hers and I checked it out. Very nice Carrie. Posted via Mobile Device

Another new guy question sorry lol. I was just wondering when it comes to MP, do the ladies feel odd about how I look. I look REALY young(like I'm 14) but I'm really 20. Must be weird for them to massage what they think is a kid. Posted via Mobile Device