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This might not be a popular opinion and has the potential to offend some ladies but, from where I stand, I feel like it has to be said. Ladies, YOU are the one putting pressure on yourselves! If you do not want to offer a service, DON'T! It's that simple! Fact is, there are many successful SPs in this industry who only provide CBJs. I will not mention names because it is not my place to do so but if you do some research, you will find what you are looking for. Supply and demand: it is up to you to advertise and find your niche market; by having a niche market, you might no longer be reaching out to and/or appeal to the masses, the ones who have to have BBBJs BUT you will definitely find gentlemen YOU are compatible with and therefore, enjoy yourself that much more. Most gentlemen are great and will still see you even if you are offering a different type of service (please note I didn't say a lesser service) when it comes to oral. Most even prefer the whole experience over one single specific act. Ladies, have some confidence in yourselves! You are all great SPs/Companions who deserve to feel at peace when spending time with someone. Find your niche market and rock their world!

As I get older, the debate becomes less worrisome. Both arguments have their merits; CBJ or BBBJ, as a provider you should do whatever you feel most comfortable with. Ostensibly it's a variation on the same theme.... and when done well, the difference is infinitesimally small. I have moved from being an MSOG kinda guy to a PGLMSHLETGALOSOG (Please God, let me stay hard long enough to get at least one shot on goal) kinda guy. With that in mind, it's far more about the experience and the companion than the details... and that's where the loyalty kicks in. A great provider will keep you coming back because she is that special, not because she does everything on your "to do" list.

Well, having read through all the posts thus far on the subject, I'm afraid that I think this debate is missing a simple and yet critical component: data. Let's just consider BBBJs in isolation for a moment. There's a number of questions that need to be asked: - what are the conditions that may be transmitted? - what's the likelihood of each of those conditions being transmitted from a) the giver to the receiver, and b) vice versa, assuming the appropriate partner were infected and the other wasn't? - what's the probability of the partner in question being infected in the first place? - how do we rate the severity of catching the condition in question? - what other precautions against transmission may be employed, and how effective are they? - what level of risk are we prepared to accept? - what rewards are required to make an increased risk worthwhile? If anyone does think they can have a go at answering all those questions, I'd be very interested to see it... but your answer should include links to your sources of data (where relevant, for things like transmission rates) and justifications for value-judgements of a more personal nature (would you rather catch herpes or gonorrhea, and why?). And once you've done that... well, that's just the start. Once we've gathered the raw data, we need to start organizing it, and making judgement calls and trade-offs. Guys: would you accept a 2% higher chance of catching syphillis in exchange for a BJ that's 50% better? Ladies, is getting an extra client each week (on average) worth a 10% higher chance of contracting a particular HPV strain? I'll freely concede that I'm pulling numbers out of my ass here, but these are the kind of questions we should be asking.... and before we can ask the questions, we need to get the underlying numbers. Yeah, science is hard.

I have only ever provided CBJs and have never considered this a "niche market"...its simply a safer way to service and appeal to the masses.... What really shocks me is the emotional and angry responses from clients who assume a CBJ is a lesser service somehow (and an SPs time is worth less because of it) as opposed to a safer service?? It really baffles me.

I am one stubborn bitch and will do what I please and never bow down to pressure. I am what I am and like me or not is your choice to see me or not and vice versa :). Peace!

I don't mind talking about this openly, Peachy. When I started to work, no one ever inquired about BBBJs before meeting me and I was never urged to forgo the condom when the meeting was underway. The gentlemen I saw and I might occasionally make a wry comment about it being a shame that the condom was necessary, but there was no manipulation involved. I don't think that my clients would have been happy if I'd suggested going ahead without the cover. By contrast, in my personal life, some of the men I dated were initially surprised when I reached for a condom before we were ready to have intercourse. They weren't offended; they simply didn't have any idea that oral sex might be a concern for either of us. They'd always had uncovered oral sex. That was over a decade ago. I've always worked independently and I've always done my own screening. I've generally been a low-volume companion, but even when I entertained more often, using condoms wasn't an issue for the first few years. Many things changed when I moved to Vancouver about five years ago. I needed to build a new client base, so I saw more people for quite awhile. I didn't have a website until I moved here. I advertised in print. In Toronto, I nearly always worked from hotels, but in Vancouver I've only done that a handful of times, though I do make outcall visits fairly often. I have more American clients, here, probably because we're much closer to the border and because many people travel up and down the coast all the time. I have clients from Ontario who come to Vancouver on business periodically, including two of my original clients. I have never offered BBBJs and have always made it clear in my advertising, phone conversations and e-mail that I will use condoms for everything. This began to be a deal-breaker for many prospective clients, which surprised me. Syphilis has been common in Vancouver for a very long time, was classified as an epidemic in the mid-1990s and has only recently begun to decline. The strains of syphilis, here, are notable for producing no symptoms in most people who contract it, which is one reason it spreads so easily. I no longer see anyone under 40 because I don't need to. I received considerable pressure not to use condoms for oral from younger, unmarried men. A lot of them declined to meet me, which was fine. But many of them tried to re-negotiate things after we were together in person, using the heat of the moment as an excuse, or stressing that they were "obviously clean". A rare few decided to leave instead of carrying on with the meeting. Some tried to bully me into giving refunds and one of them became very angry when I refused. The worst was a 36 year-old man who had made a couple of wry comments about the condom. Instead of having me on top of him, he wanted me on all fours. When I reached around to guide him, I found he'd taken the condom off. He laughed, "Oh, oh. You caught me!" I went ballistic. He left when I picked up the telephone. Most of my clients now are between the ages of 58 and 75. I love my regular visitors, but the prospective and first-time clients often challenge my restrictions. I don't take same-day or last-minute meetings. The combination of my screening process and my availability means that it can take anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks to meet me in person. I'm willing to exchange a lot of e-mail and have short phone conversations in the meantime. By the time my guest and I actually lay eyes on each other, we've established what I feel is a good rapport. (If we haven't, I will decline to meet.) After all of that, it's unsettling when some new visitors claim to be surprised that I won't compromise about condoms for oral sex. They often say that they didn't think I'd really meant what I'd written or said on the phone, or that they were sure I'd change my mind once we met in person. Two have brought printouts of what they said were their STI test results to use as last-minute bargaining tools. I've heard long stories about loss of sensation, about condoms being too small or too tight (even after I've unrolled one over my hand and up my forearm). I've heard about erectile problems and ejaculatory difficulties they attribute to condoms. Twice I've had clients turn a playful spanking into something that was definitely punishing because I'd used a condom on them for oral, to completion. For one of them, the spanking was pay-back. The other really thought I'd give in for the second round. (That round didn't happen!) The only people who have ever tried to talk me into BBFS have been older men. They've said that they've had vasectomies or that I'm the only woman they will have been with other than their wives. One said he had no children because of a low sperm count. Another said I could trust him because he's a physician. A couple of years ago, I saw one man who made a fuss about condoms and even asked to remove it while we were having intercourse. He contacted me recently, certain that we could work things out now that time had passed. I told him I hadn't changed my restrictions. He said he didn't expect that I would. He paid my social rate to take me out for lunch. At the end of the meeting, he was shocked when I still refused to consider meeting with him without condoms. A few days ago, a fellow I've seen four times offered a significant monthly retainer if I would agree to BBFS. He wanted to be a boyfriend who gives me money and looks the other way if I entertain anyone else. But he also travels extensively in Asia and India, where he delights in the opportunities he has for female companionship, often at very low rates. A few visitors have told me on their way out of the door or later, in e-mail, that the engagement was wonderful but, regretfully, they won't re-book because of the condom. I want to be very clear, though, that, while I do feel pressured and subjected to various kinds of manipulation, I am not worried about going out of business. Most of my clientele are regulars. I'm doing well in my corner of the profession. I don't have qualms about the choices I've made. But it has taken me quite awhile to get to be in my position and I recognize that I am where I am because of simple, plain, good luck as well as because of the way I run my business.

Well I take pity on my fellow CERB-ites and only post this on one of the three threads. This argument is getting tiresome, and not just this particular time. It seems we keep going down the same path, having the same arguments over and over again. I just spent about 2 minutes with this wonderful feature we have on this site called "search" (something that some of you should seriously try using some time) and here are just four threads of many on the topic. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71451&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34872&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=20951&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16380&highlight=transmission This time though we have three active threads with the same people posting on all three of them, and rarely providing any new information and insight that is not already on this board. First someone hijacked a thread on BBFS to rant about the perils of BBBJ. Then an SP put up a poll with a set of questions that although well-meaning just made things more complicated. Believe it or not folks there is a science to writing polls to gather data properly. Then a hobbiest in attempt to clarify things posted an SP only poll with the same sort of problematic questions. The we have people cross-posting links irrelevant to the discussion on multiple threads. A serious breach of netiquette on any board. What angers me the most is that these arguments are not being made in the interest of health and safety, they are being made because some people feel they have an economic interest at stake. Case in point, an SP on here last night posting about how she felt that to keep her financial well being she had to offer BBBJ. The word being thrown around is coercion, which is pretty strong. It generally implies some sort of duress being applied. I don't think that a hobbiest choosing to see an SP who does BBBJ instead of CBJ is really duress. Particularly since the anecdotal evidence on these threads is that for the vast majority of the hobbiests it has no bearing. I am not going searching for facts, and transmission rates as someone on here has suggested. There is no need. A lot of what we do in this hobby has risks. Condoms are not 100% effective. I am not going to cite the failure rate here and have people shoot at my statistics, look it up. The point is that they break, slip off, and do not prevent all diseases, particularly herpes, warts and even HPV. (and I could add non-STI infections as well) And if you are going to look it up then Wikipedia and Ask.com may be a good place to start, but do us all a favour and try and find some primary sources. Dig deeper, and look at several sources, because there are a lot of different facts and statistics out there depending on who is presenting them. A lot of people on the internet have their own agenda. (surprise surprise) The fact of the matter is that this hobby is full of risks, and not just from STI's. The only safe way to avoid these risks is not to have sex or contact with another human at all. I don't think many of us would want to do that. How a person handles these risks, mitigates them, protects themselves and their partners is what is important. Is there a risk with BBBJ, yes there is. But there is also a demand for it, and not just from the hobbiests. I know many SP's who really don't like sucking on a latex condom. That is their choice. They know the risks. Is BBBJ the only risky thing we do in this hobby? Not by a long shot. My final word is this. Wanting to have a BBBJ or a CBJ is a personal choice. Wanting to provide either is also a personal choice. If you choose not to provide that service then live with your decision. If someone else makes a different choice it is none of your business. You can say it is coercion, but I would also say that trying to use peer-pressure on a board like this to try and convince your competition to do something different is also coercion. To the mod(s) as I have shown here we have debated this thread ad nauseum over the years, and nothing really new has been added to the mix. We now have 3 similar threads. Can we at least merge them, if you are not going to lock them?

This statement really saddens me Peachy. You should never be put in that situation, although it happens all the time and many won't speak up about it but you had the courage to do so. If your clients have said directly to you, that they will not see you anymore if you no longer offer BBBJ, I myself would have ended the business relationship right then. They should respect your choice if you choose not to offer it anymore and clearly by making that statement they don't respect your possible choice or you. I don't play games and will never be bullied or pressured to do something I don't want to and if anyone was to try, I will cut all ties to that person quick. Whatever you decide there are many ladies that are here for you and will support your choice and many who do not provide BBBJ and do just fine. All my love and support, Lexy

I wouldn't put it that way. All we're seeing is a difference of opinion between some folks who think this would be great, and some who prefer their meetings to remain strictly private, and some who may fall in one camp but care about what others may feel. And, of course, all those who are somewhere in between. Similarly, SPs differ in their preferences on recos; some may be happy with guys posting blow-by-blow accounts of appointments, others prefer to keep some stuff private, and a few prefer not to have anything written at all. My gut feeling is that there's plenty of scope here for ladies to write anonymized accounts of particularly good encounters, although any who do so will obviously have to be prepared to deal with questions along the lines of, "Why didn't you write about ME???". And yes, obviously the same questions arise whenever any of us guys see a SP or MA and don't choose to write a reco... but - if you'll all forgive the observation - I suspect the ladies are better at dealing with this than we guys are. SPs are by their very nature a pretty tough bunch, in general, whereas I think we guys are rather more delicate, especially where easily-bruised egos are concerned...

Have you seen Nathalie Lefebvre in her yoga pants? OMG. http://lovely-nathalie.com/photos-video/

Peachy here I feel has a great asset Additional Comments: Can't forget the CMJ ladies

Morning all! While I was "off" recovering, had lots of time to think (I know, I know it does not happen often!). Thought about all the lovely Ladies who are so talented, I just wanted to point it out and say "thank you". We have Ladies who are full time MP's or SP's. We have Ladies who balance "traditional" work lives, in the government, at hospitals, in offices, in banks, etc. and then spend time with us hobbyists. And we have Ladies who are still in university and college, some even in Masters level courses handling that workload, then spending time with us. Then we have the Ladies who balance their work lives with children, then work, then with us. To all of you, thank you. You are special folks who work hard to make us hobbyists happy. The Liquor

I am posting this as remider that we are not super hero's and we are not invinciable! I came across this artical in hopes to just remind us that in our lifestyle, we need to be informed no matter how hard we want to put this issue in a box, and out of mind, we simly cant! http://metronews.ca/news/canada/609197/new-brunswick-officials-issue-std-warning/ This post is not intended to scare you, or annoy you, but just for a reality check. Play safe:)

Thank you for organizing another social, Angela! I will be there if spots are still available.

As humans do we need this to become well rounded compasionate adults. Can we exist happily without it? Do we need the basic aspects of it, ie: to be needed, wanted, touched every so often, could we exist happily without it, or as humans is it a necessary to be "coupled" and loved by another-long term- to be "complete". Some say that humans are at the top of the pyramid because of our understanding of our emotions and needs for them. But do we really? Our emotions do not live in the rational part of our brain yet we are always trying to rationalize and understand them and then why were the first tests to demonstrate a need for love then done on monkeys?As a dog lover and owner I see the exhibition of love and their need for it on a daily basis. Other animals mourn the loss of their young, that is a form of love. I feel love IS a necessary for all beings we just display it differently and as humans perhaps put more importance on it than other species, we have actually made businesses of it. What's your opinion on the subject?

I like gentlemen who are kind, thoughtful, gentlemen of all shapes and sizes and income brackets . Those who appreciate a woman and all she encompasses, the whole package. Those gentlemen who take your feelings into account, who see beyond the exterior and want to experience you not just as an object but as a human being, those who don't seek perfection but want to help you be better. Those who are aware that we try hard to please them and are thankful for us and are aware that we sometimes make mistakes and forgive us for them. Thatsmy type.

Just use what you said in this question for your introduction to the lady that interest you. I edited it below ... I think its actually pretty polite and within reason. :D lets see what other has to say.

Hello gentlemen, it's a beautiful day outside and it's time to get out here and have some fun!! The sun is shining and it's perfect day for a nice little massage here with your favourite travelling girl Available ONLY until 6pm this evening !! I'm a model tall 5'10, a curvy woman's body that's got the perfect shape you've been looking for! I've got bright green eyes that will put you in a daze and a smile that'll melt you inside. A bubbly, sweet and perky personality that'll get you smiling and feeling amazing! I offer a great massage and slippery, sensual body slides that you won't soon forget! Come be teased and pleased by me, & add that perfect part to your day!! Check out pictures at : http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=6723 Call to book an appointment while you can at 613-820-8887 ! She's planning more travelling... so come get her while you can... they don't call her Travelling Charlie for nothing!

What disturbs me most about the article is that someone intentionally went cruising for victims, much like the predators that stalk SPs; with intention of transmitting a disease. If the client base knew how many crazies providers deal with, this article wouldn't seem inflammatory, it would just make sense as to why she posted the link... cat

Why is it that I come up with some of the most witty and acerbic retorts hours after a conversation has ended?

Why is it that people insist on driving very slowly in the left-hand lane on the highway?

Originally, I went by Erin_xo. Erin was what my mother originally wanted to name me and I picked it on the fly. Then, I decided that didn't really represent me and I picked Berlin. I went through a bunch of baby-names databases and wrote down a bunch that I liked, but Berlin was the one that stuck. It's also the name of a character in the movie The Life of David Gale--a student who sleeps with her professor :) Those who know me know that I get a serious ladyboner for academic types.

I get asked to bring my yoga outfits (I wear nothing but Lulu lemon, hihi) just as much as I get asked to bring sexy French lingerie :) I recently had a client who wanted me to do very suggestive yoga moves with my outfit on. To spice it up a little bit, I poured a glass of cold water on my white and fit t-shirt (I was bare breast under), and then surrounded by mirrors I executed myself with very flexible moves. The water was cold as ice but the ambiance was hot as hell!

I am very new to this whole experience (just pre-booked my first pooning session for 2 weeks from now), but I think that the female body has such intricacies and subtleties that by discriminating against things like stretch marks is a touch over the top. But things that I look for is someone that responds quickly and can do so with a sense of humour. I prefer the 20-30 age group but that is because of my age, but depending on how my first experience goes a may be open to older demographics as well. I just figure for a first time experience I'd like to have someone close to my age... Who knows I could be wrong but from what I can tell from the SP I have booked with she seems to excited to pop my pooning cherry.

I don't think that SP's should feel the need to publicly praise their clients. It's a business relationship. Are our ego's so fragile that we need a lady we paid to express how much fun she had with us? I don't really think that that's what the relationship is all about. If ladies want to recommend clients to each other, I'm sure its more on the merits of cleanliness, safety and respect...and they have a private area to do so. I don't think when they are looking for recommendations from each other that it has much to do with how hard a client made them cum...but of course I could be wrong.

What I took issue with was the incredibly homophobic, sex-negative, and whorephobic approach you took in your post. To recap: I would love to see your stats on this "guess" of yours. Stoya is a well-spoken porn actor who speaks to this subject quite frequently: http://stoya.tumblr.com/post/32205235912/testing-vs-condoms-in-pornography Emphasis mine. Racism, homophobia, and assumptions of drug use. Awesome. Again, I would love to see your proof to these claims. What on earth is a "meat and potatoes" std? Again with the homophobia. You know that people who have sex with other people of the opposite sex engage in anal sex as well? It's not a "gay thing". Again with the assumptions. Did you know that STIs are on the rise in the senior population, and they have theorized that it is because these individuals who are now finding themselves widowed and are engaging in new sexual relationships were not raised in a culture that promoted condom use and safer sex? Another assumption. Sorry, what? Again: source please. Actually, the transmission rate is about the same for oral sex on a person with a vagina, whether they are on their menses or not (it is considered a low-risk activity regardless of menses). Source: cdnaids.ca Someone's sexual identity does not put them more or less at risk of contracting an STI, it is the sexual activities they engage in and if they use safer sex practices.

I understand the confusion as both have risk. I feel that because of the increased sexual partners that an SP has, her risk increases exponentially. Myself as an example, my target is to see 1 client a day/5 days a week. Thats 260 encounters a year. Now most of my clients are repeats but I'm not naive enough to believe that I am the only provider they see so if 20 of them see a high volume provider each month (let's assume 100 clients/mth) once a month it increases my exposure to over 2000 people per month or 24 000 people per year. Those numbers are very scary to me. I can't calculate the odds of a client because it would vary for each man but if they actually thought about the number of people a provider is exposed to, I think it would have a sobering effect especially if they only see ladies who offer bbbj as in Ottawa those providers are much busier.. I also understand that some men have issues with condoms being used during oral but in 25 years I have never had anyone have an actual issue with it unless they have an ED issue. I can get a condom on a man without him even knowing it's there and have new clients stop me during FS to check if I've put it one on after coitus is underway. This has led me to believe that it's a mental block not a physical issue at hand. I've never been comfortable with unprotected anything but Canadian men are brutal when it comes to insisting on it. I offered it in '08 out of financial necessity but no longer put it on the menu. It just isn't worth it to me. Uncovered oral is something I do when I'm so connected with a partner that I have complete trust in them and in the relationship we have. I'm not a risk taker, I don't play the stock market, russian roulette or go to the casino. Playing the odds I've listed above just doesn't seem like a prudent move on either a business or personal level. This is suppose to fun and in my world, fun isn't accompanied by sleepless nights full of worry, a trip to the doctor or having to tell you significant other you have infected them with something that may impact their health... cat

Well well...seems this pussycat is going to come out from hiding and actually attend this event. My rubber arm has been twisted :)

Cause back in the day, this was my hair do (hmm, I guess it's still kinda the same lol) and all my friends called me Meg. I added the "forfun" cause I am, well, fun!

Hi Everybody! I don't know if I'm too much of a newbie to start a thread, especially one on such a strong subject but it's one that I feel very strongly about: BBFS in the Hobby, I don't get how anyone can justify it. Browsing other boards that are, lets say, less politically correct than this one I see an increasing amount of talk around either more and more SPs offering BBFS ... one post even had a link to a BP ad near TO where the SP has it listed in her extras!! ... or johns asking for it, sometimes very aggressively according to some ladies. It seems prevalent enough that they even started a board dedicated to the pursuit of this dangerous activity!! (I won't promote it here) Unless I'm really behind the times and some new miracle cure as been invented for all STDs isn't this pretty much the most dangerous activity to experiment in? Also, being a DATY lover this "trend" is scaring the living crap out of me. Aside from the very obvious heath risks involved (HIV being at the top of the list), the thought of ... squeamish people turn away now! ... licking up someones sloppy seconds is totally disgusting!! ... call me a prude but I won't even snowball my own stuff! lol Levity aside I don't want to die, or be incapacitated, from this hobby because a few morons (male and female alike) want to play russian roulette with their sex lives. Now a few posters, again on other boards, have suggested starting screening new SPs when booking by asking if they provide the service as if you want it, the logic being they will then expose themselves more freely. Really not sure about this one, First I would need to play the creep (not my style), and second using this method might put me on the blacklist with the careful, reputable ones and ruin my rep. I mainly repeat with 2 lovely ladies I'm very comfortable with but I like to "explore new territory" once in a while so a screening method would help ease my mind. Any comment on the subject ... from both Service Providers and fellow hobbyists ... would be appreciated. Also, I'm very curious as to what the general consensus on the subject is? Am I overreacting here or is it as dangerous as I feel it is? Is it something that's more prevalent in other market/cities where competition is more fierce?

I searched for a thread on this topic and surprisingly couldn't find one, and it's definitely one that (sadly) needs to be addressed. Lately, I have been hearing some appalling things from ladies I speak to: and that is, some gentlemen have been sharing information about ladies location. I am just floored that someone would think this is information to share. Where a lady works from, whether it is an apartment/condo/house/hotel, is information that should always remain private. If you see a lady in an apartment/condo, and happen to have seen another lady in the same building: it's NOT your business to tell either of them that the other lady is in the same building as they are. If you see a lady in a hotel where you've seen others: it's not your business to tell her that 'so-and-so lady' also works from that hotel. If your buddy works close to a lady, and you want to recommend her: maybe say that she's works very close...but do NOT say 'Hey she works in the building right next to you!' Many women work out of their home. This is their private life. And even if they rent a separate work apartment, or work in a hotel, it is not up to you to disclose this information to anyone, ever. Telling other people puts her safety at stake. And could put her in compromising or embarrassing situations. The ONLY way you should know where a lady works from is when she tells you herself. Please, always remember what business we are in. Discretion is the ultimate key to happy, safe, encounters. There is never a need to share someone's personal information with others. Thank you.

Why is it that i am not in Montreal enjoying a fabulous :

My sister in-law took in an abused dog. Large female mix. When they 1st got her, she was very afraid of men. She would discretely sneak out of the room whenever a male was in general vicinity. I was aware of her background and fears before a visit, so the best thing was to let the pooch approach me on her own terms. The happy story is she has adjusted now to her loving home & is more trusting of men. Still has her quirks. She won't leave me alone whenever I visit. She insists I stick my finger in her ear. Man, she just groans and drools whenever I do ...then, she tries to crawl in my lap - she's huge. Weighs at least 70lbs. As soon as I de-poke her ear, she grabs my hand with her paw and plants her head firmly on my crotch (if I'm sitting down). Wonderful puppy. I ask her nicely if it's ok if I use my hands for something else (like holding my drink) & she lies on my feet.

Rebecca, stand your ground to the offerings/donations published in your adverts. Raising the bar will draw in the respectful people, hopefully keeping the low life out of your life.

Not trying to make any sort of statement at all on bare or covered anything. Gon. and Herp. are both treatable, gon. can be gotten rid of. herpes is with you forever, dormant if you are lucky. Just saying.

I have been with a few SPs and I find that looks and age vary, but attitude is most important. I would rather be with someone who has a few "flaws" but is really sensual and erotic, than a really hot looking girl (woman) who is cold and disinterested. A great sense of humour and playfulness goes a long way.

Why was favorite character on Walking Dead killed and zombified?

Why is it when you sit down a good meal, you realize there is one important ingredient/condiment that you ran out of it that is the deal breaker on the meal being complete.

Exactly right Lucky, only providers should vote in here, clients should stay out of voting here, though they are free to make comments in here. Of course, there's no way to prevent a client from voting in here either, but clients need to know the results of this poll just as much as the SP's, so I trust that they will not do anything to skew the results. Clients should bypass the voting and click on the "see results" link instead.

The OP states " ... specifically only for the ladies (and of course any TS-providers are included here too). Customers should refrain from voting here, it's also in your own best interests to let the poll remain unskewed." I assume by ladies, he meant females SPs. Of course, I think anyone can still click on the poll - but that's not the intend of the poll.

I've got two rescues from the SPCA. The first one who's 11 we thought was a lab puppy when we found him and the staff thought he was too, however he never grew and still looks like a lab puppy so must be a mixed breed of sorts. He's cost us thousands of dollars for various issues but specifically (lumpectomy's) but he's and old soul and I'd never trade him he's just too good. You could just lay one finger on top of his head and he's completely content with it and will stay there all day. My other dog was also a rescue and she was abused. I wasn't even planning on looking for a dog but I usually go and drop off supplies and donations to the SPCA regularly so they know me and one day when I went in one of the staff quickly handed me a dog and said, "we've got a Parvo outbreak we need you to take her home with you for a couple of days so she doesnt get it". Well the rest is history 10 years later shes still there. At first she only hid away and didn't like people to touch her (consequence of the abuse) but when she came around she went completely the other way, now she's a cuddle slut. Any one, anywhere, anytime. Just wants to be touched all the time. However, she very specific (and this is what gets on my nerves) she won't tolerate to just be petted. She has to be petted exactly where she wants and will keep moving around and rooting your hand until its hitting the right spot. Sometimes she ends up half ontop of your head. So I sit there with one hand just laid on the top of one dogs head while the other one is doing moves like something out of "cirque di soleil".

Old Dog your statement, "I have moved from being an MSOG kinda guy to a PGLMSHLETGALOSOG (Please God, let me stay hard long enough to get at least one shot on goal) kinda guy." Gave me a good laugh!

Cool. I think it's not always in the power of the participants to put in place the boundaries that serve everyone's long-term interest instead of immediate gratification. It takes an outside authority (the collective we) to enact and enforce the rules that server the general welfare. Obviously a problem in this gray industry. Cool here too. I guess my main concern is that talking about bareback activities amongst civilians with relatively few partners is a very different subject than the "merits" of bareback FS involving SPs; the SPs are at enormous risk due to both the number of partners and female vs. male risk factors. It's just madness for a client to seek, or an SP to offer, BBFS even in relatively healthy Canada. But... I agree these risks have been covered on this and other threads, no need to resurrect those arguments.

A is for anal beads. Slowly insert one by one while you swirl your tongue around her clit.

I do have some wonderful men to write about,but I need to ask permission first.

So we have a few people complaining about a new feature I added to encourage more user participation (and it's working!) New members (under 5 posts for less then 5 days) now get a notice (See below) that they should post and change the status (basically from a lurker who is using the site for research and not contributing to a contributing member). The notice will disappear once they post 5 posts and have been a member for 5+ days. The site is FREE to use and they are complaining!? Seriously!! I have actually had TWO members (Long time members) complain in PM's and the one had been a member for 200+ days and the other (get this) has been a member for over 2000 days and is pissed that he now gets this notice? WTF??? If you have been here 200+ or 2000+ days and used the site for info on SP's and not given back at least 5 comments for the rest of the community?? Why do these guys feel this is ok? should we really be concerned? Here is the notice: Yes, it's long (It's long for a reason!) it's made to be informative to NEW MEMBERS and it's long to be a NAG so that you give back to the community!! No excuse is valid for not contributing. Put your browser into PRIVACY MODE (as you should be doing already) and make sure your username is not something your co-workers or anyone else might pick up on and post some comments!! Don't be a troll/leach and expect everyone else to share for your benefit when you don't contribute.

I should be able to attend:)

While I think that the orginial intent of this thread was to let Cerbs wonderful ladies realize that they are sought after and appriciated I fear that it's possibly in poor taste. While the ladies mentioned may appriciate the stamp of approval a more appropriate venue is through reco's. Not to be a kill joy but I have issues with people being treated like objects. Is it possible that we could let this thread die? Thanks, Chuck