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Personally, I think you should be applauded for your courage. And no, I'm not speaking of the courage it may have taken to admit you're a 35 year old virgin. To me, that's just not a big deal. I know and have met older virgins than that. The part I admire so much is that you've come to the epiphany that sex and being intimate with someone is something you're no longer willing to leave to fate. You've taken the reins and decided that you're not willing to miss out any longer on the joys and pleasure of physical intimacy. Good for you markane! If I could re-do losing my virginity, picking a suitably reputable escort to do it would've been a helluva lot more memorable than what really happened! lol

and not just to the mothers, but the daughters, sisters, brothers and husbands too. Where would we be if we didn't have awesome Mom's?

I thought the op asked about the legal aspect of helping and SP with her business not how to become a pimp? I am reading this and wondering why his thread as suddenly turned into a lecture? 4 or 5 years ago, I helped an SP getting some furniture and other things on many occasions. In return she bought me Dinner when we were driving around. She is now my best lady friend. Lately I drove a significant distance to help another lady out with some mechanical stuff. First time she bought me a beer and Dinner second time she couldn't due to schedule. Still I didn't mind cause I did not offer my help expecting something in return. Also lately I helped another lady with electronic stuff. Once again I was provided with beer and Dinner but it was not expected when I offered my help. So does that make me a criminal or someone that abuses SPs??????? I have done BP ads for an SP before cause she had no CC do do her ads. In addition on a few occasions when that SP got sick and couldn't worked, I paid her bills. When I saw her for apt, I took off her rate from the money she owes me. The thanks I got was her moving away and try to hide it from me cause she still owes me lots. So WHO IS THE JERK HERE???? This happened before I helped out with mechanical and electronics stuff because I don't judge every lady in this industry to be the same as the bad experience I got. I judge people by who they are not what they do!!! I know there are some ppl that would love nothing better than get some freebies or take money from SPs but we are not all like that. I know the OP did not give much details like what did he expect for helping out but then we can always ask for more details instead of assuming he is up to no good because when we do so then ppl like me who have tons of respect for the ladies in this community and enjoy helping friends get insulted. This board is suppose to be about positivity so lets be positive and assume the op is genuine and wants to help a friend until we get more details that would indicate otherwise!!!

I will add to this. If you are doing it for the money, better think again. Unless perhaps you think taking half the fee is a good for the lady and yourself. Even then Half the fee means you both have to work 2x's the appointments then otherwise. That is if you are only representing the one lady. But if you have 10 ladies I suppose you will live comfortably, but the one lady now has to work extra appointments to even come close to what you would make off of 10 ladies. If I tried to make a living off the small donation that my ladies offered me as an agent, I would starve. I never agree that the agent should make the same or more than the ladies who work there. There is much much more to this then posting ads and answering phones. Do you have the experience needed to make an informed and safe booking? Can you screen safely? The responsibility of ensuring the ladies safety is paramount...or should be. Time management, people skills, finance balancing, knowledge of the law and a lawyer paid yearly, everything that a business requires. If you feel that security is one thing you will be best at, then you may need to consider this again too. I only have one bodyguard, that is .....911. Clients that book threw an agency have to be able to trust the agent. You need a good reputation to build that trust. My client come in 2 forms, the hobyiest who books and the ladies I work for. My clients trust me, and know that the ladies are being treated fairly with me. They would not want to book with me if say: I was taking half of the ladies hard earned cash, or if I were a man, or if they never heard of me.

I wonder who you think you'll be working for and what kind of business arrangement is best for both of you. How do you hope to find clientele--that is, ladies who want to hand over control of their advertising and schedule? Some women do have agents, secretaries or assistants. Sometimes several ladies share one. Most experienced companions want to be sure that an agent knows the industry very, very well, including the kinds of things to expect from prospective clients, managing special requests and so on. They want to be sure that the agent will represent them accurately and fairly, and that the client is properly screened. That's why most good agents are former companions, themselves. If you think that offering this kind of service is a way to make some money from newer, less-experienced ladies, well, that really is being a pimp. I get a lot of requests for this kind of thing--men who say they want to manage my bookings for me or be my driver and/or personal security staff. In fact, the number of queries I've received from such men has increased significantly since the courts and police relaxed their attention to some aspects of the prostitution laws. I ignore them. I know what I need and who to ask. Someone approaching me, out of the blue, I generally take to be someone who's hoping to use me for his own ends and profit.

Well, you would be considered an her agent. No different being an agency. Different kettle of fish then being an independent. I would read the thread on plain English laws. Very good information to start. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1642 Additional Comments: Agencies are more likely to get busted then independents if they don't know what they are doing. When you have someone "working" for you, it can be a grey area. It is very important to understand the laws completely, and the op might not have any real experience or understanding of the laws. If you are doing the advertising and answering the phone, she would be considered working for you and as such.....

As a bit of a nervous first-timer who knew no one, I was not sure what to expect of THE renowned social. The immediate warm greeting and introductions by Angela and Old Dog set me at ease, and *poof*, off into the warm world of the Ottawa CERB community, in the flesh, was I. And what flesh! (the ladies'; mine, not so much) So you think Senators coach Paul Maclean was bug-eyed... As important, the warmness, abundance of personality, shared laughter, and the beginning of what I hope are friendships all made for such a great time. Heck, even the guys are super... haha And I even won a prize...! The biggest prize, though, was my initiation to a great group. I highly recommend for newbies, you'll be sure not to regret! Thanks to all, and to wonderful host(ess), Angela, OD et al. Bammer

Ill step in here, he's not a shill or a shit disturber, in fact he was a long time member before. He left the board after the story aired as it was too close to home. Hopefully when this all dies down he will rejoin the board as in NFLD he was a valid contributor.

Multiple builds are great, but in my experience they are hard to achieve. I quickly get overstimulated and then try to hold back, only to have some kind of intense internal orgasm and then I can't actually cum, which is kind of unsatisfying. The lady needs to be a very confident and assertive communicator who can get what is required from a participant who's brain has shut-off almost completely. This is much appreciated, especially by those who are kind of quiet or shy. A take charge woman with a plan is so sexy. For me a slow and steady build is best, with a delicate, slow and sensuous touch with varying tempo that increases when its time to release. I prefer a very sensual atmosphere and approach where all of my erogenous zones are stimulated during the course, not just the big obvious one. Sucking my nipples or earlobes while talking dirty would be enough to make me cum, throw a HJ into the mix and it could be over before it starts if you come in fast and furious! I don't have the stamina of those porn stars. I also enjoy a lady who uses all of her assets (hands, feet, breasts, bums, lips, tongues, thighs... mix it up and be creative). So much fun to be had. Excuse me while I go make an appointment.

There's great advice in this thread already. The one thing I would add is to find someone you'd like to spend some time with and maybe book a 4-hour meeting. Then, take her out to dinner, enjoy your meal in leisure, talk, flirt, and relax. Let things follow along from there. And by all means, do be up-front with her about this being your first time. I'm sure your companion will want to make it extra special for you, so taking some extra time is a great way to let that happen.

Just a couple points. First, what makes you believe escorts aren't the greatest at setting up appointments etc? Yes maybe some escorts may not be good at the business side of being a professional companion, but many are very good at all aspects of running their business. And if they need a manger/agent then they should look for one who is qualified to be one. Second, there is much more to managing an escort than just setting up appointments. What business qualifications and experience in this profession do you have that would qualify you to be a manager. Just judging from your board handle I would guess you have very little experience in this lifestyle. You are if done properly, the lady's agent representing her. You work for her. She doesn't work for you Personally I get the impression you think all that is required is answering a phone, and telling a prospective client when the SP is available. I hope you don't think its ok for you to tell the SP when, where and with whom she has to be with. That would make you a pimp, not a manager/agent My evening rambling RG

duty called before the social and I had to leave early to make a guest appearance in a drag/burlesque show so sadly i was only able to mingle for about 45 minutes in-between gigs...so apologies to anyone I missed or didnt get the opportunity to chat with! but what a great turn-out...lots of new faces and lots of ladies coming out of the woodwork that I was so excited to see again! and to top it off...a Sens win the same night! what could be more perfect? on to round two...as they say in hockey...and the bedroom ;) hehe oh and this time I got my cookies!!! I'll leave that up to interpretation, hehehe ;)

I took out some of the numbers form the phone number just in case the mod took exception. The SP's name is Nikki, she is one of the Quebec girls with the black pimp. Total Bait and Switch I was at work, horny and stupid. Broke several of my rules. Booked a girl who was only on BP. Was at work, so couldn't search her name on PERB for warning, spidey sense went off several times and ignored it. They use an Alberta number, but they are from Quebec. Girl at door was not girl in pic. Services offered in text were not offered in session, upcharge for basic services, was told no upcharge from when I first inquired. When I said "Keep $100, give me $140 back I am out of here" (after about 10 mins), she calls her black pimp and the fun begins. I won't go into all the details, but they refused to give me my money back. STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THEM, THEY ARE CROOKS. B&S specialists. I was finally taken. I feel like such a rube

Assuming you're single lol Seriously though. Being a sufferer of vehicular deprivation :p , I actually prefer outcalls to my home. My advice is to be sure to invite someone over who A) you've seen before and trust that they know how to be discrete and aren't completely off their rocker or anything. Or B) Make sure the lady has good recommendations/reviews (ideally by other gentleman who have seen her on an outcall basis and that notes have been made of her good discretion.) And from the other side of the coin........ ladies, I'm sure I don't need to tell you this but when seeing someone at their home for the first time, if it is someone you haven't already met (or even if you have) please make sure you have gotten prior references from other reputable and trustworthy providers first! Safety first! :) On a lighter note, the thing I enjoy most about outcalls to my home is how the memory lingers even after the lady has departed. "Hey, that's the bed where I did that with her"....."Hey, this here is the couch where she did that to me!"........"Hey, right now I'm in the shower where she got down on her knees and did that thing I oh so love!"......."Hey, how interesting, this is the same dining room table on which we...." You get my drift ;)

Sweetshay, returning to Ottawa after a long time away... Welcome, Shay!

I have 20 pairs of reading glasses all over my place and about a third of them are bright orange. I get freaked out if my DVDs and LPs are not in alphabetical order. Books need to be arranged by size, but authors should remain together. I will buy an old TV or radio regardless if it works or not. I have no skill in the repair of electronics; the "look" of the radio or TV has to be cool. I own about a dozen GI Joes from the 1960's. I keep them around to remind me of how happy it can be to dream of being a kid again. Lots more...

Thanks to OD and angela for organizing it:) Again a good turn out! And I apologize to everyone that I may have said stupid things or started to randomly making out with...people were too nice and kept buying me wine ¨>,>

The OP is using the words, manage...and setting up appts.... That is an agent. Which is all fine and well. But you would have to assume is making money off of it, as for the confusion if illegal or not. If he was doing it to merely help her, with no fee's attatched, then there would be no worries for the law. I dont think we lectured him, but more like gave him a side of this he may not be thinking. But you are right, let's see if this poster will explain more, as it reads he wants to " manage" her. A man who is going to set up, answer the phones, etc...just leaves a bad tase in the mouth for many ppl including the gent's that would be booking. Which in turn may tarnish any reputaion that she is trying to build for herself.

I have to agree with Samantha. Schedule a encounter with a lady. But treat it like a date, with dinner out, conversation etc. It makes an encounter so much better if you are intimate with a lady you have spent time getting to know. And, if there is time, allow yourself time to just lie in bed with the lady, just relaxed, kissing and cuddling. I think the type of encounter you would want is a GFE (girlfriend experience) Also, when you contact the lady, first, as has been said, let her know your age and that you are a virgin. But, and so this isn't a shock for you, she may employ verification/screening. That entails providing your real name, board handle confirmed by pm, your phone and email. Comply with the lady's screening protocols, it's nothing to fear, and something that many ladies do. If you get nervous, don't worry about it. Even ladies I repeat with, some of whom I consider friends, I am nervous, excited and looking forward to the visit, all in one. Just enjoy that nervousness, strange as it sounds it's part of the excitement of seeing a companion Finally, if I was in your shoes, well I'd be giving Soleil a call. If I should find myself in Winterpeg one day, I'd give Soleil a call. Ooops, one last thing, check the threads, New To This on CERB, it can help you too Good Luck RG

Maggie Rottweiler I am other I provide security for the girls. I keep everyone in line and make sure the guys keep in line. I appear like a big mean bully and that is exactly the point. If you are afraid of me, then I am doing my job. I maintain perimeter security, entrance security and keeping my eyes and ears open for anything that goes on. Hobbies include playing at the beach, sleeping on my owners lap, and letting the new kitties sleep with me when they first start.

another awesome night and a real big thankyou to Angela,Old Dog and thank you to mister t for the beautyful job on all the lovely baked goods and cookies he spent his time doing and all the gentleman and lovely ladies that showed up Thank you everyone Angela @ Old Dog keep up the beautyful job

Awesome evening! Many thanks to all the organizers. It was great to spend time with my cerb friends, new and old.

Funny to read this, I emailed a girl from BP yesterday, got a response from what I believed to be a man's name (you never can be sure). Right or not I assumed the worst and did not follow up.

I had a awesome time too ;-) Thanks for the laughs, convo and the great view ;-) Good job squeezing me in Old Dog ;) You and Lee Richards looked awfully sexy in those matching orange glasses ;-) I hope everyone made it to bed well...... who's bed is another story. ;-) Many of The ladies looked delicious..... Malika.....Sara... Cleo.... Passion.... Mandy66.... Selena ma... Geeez my head is spinning just remembering it all ;) SLURRRRRP!

If i'm really comfortable around people I sing whatever i'm saying...my kids just think i'm weird..lol ps-I can't sing

I loved Hooch from the old movie with Tom Hanks "Turner and Hooch". How could ya not love this face??? :)

Hi, first don't think still being a virgin is anything to be ashamed of or a monkey on your back. But if you want to become sexually aware and have a great first experience I think picking an sp to be the "one" is a great idea. I will also like to add that experience for the sp doesn't necessarily come with age, so choose someone who you find attractive, intriguing and start corresponding with this lady. Get a feel for her through pms or phone conversations. If you feel completely comfortable and still attracted take the next step and book an appt. There are many ladies that advertise towards first timers and shy guys. We are here to make you feel comfortable, and give you a memorable experience. So relax and enjoy!

It was a great night meeting up again with new and familiar faces.... and other memorable body parts! Thanks to all that came and enjoyed - hope to see you at the next event - planning is already underway! Ohhhhhhhhh..... Sara, your panties are safe. A Portuguese extremist group is demanding them in return for something or other... I have no idea what they were asking for but it sounded like "the end to all social media, globally."

I thought you ran them up the flag pole after Ottawa won last night.

Dear Boss: Ever wish some people would lose everything?

I love animals. Dogs, cats, fish, birds. Love talking about my pets. Not everyone however, wants to hear about how fluffy chased her tail today, or fido buried his bone in your backyard. So I thought, we could talk about our pets, and if they worked in the industry - what would their profile or advertisement look like? If they were a provider, what type of service would they provide? If they were a hobbyist, what type of provider would they be looking for? Or maybe they are other. The possibilities are endless. Rules are: Name Species I am a: SP, MA, Hobbyist, Other Either a brief profile or advertisement of their services Pic of your pet, or if you want, a pic of a pet similar to yours I'll start My name is Harriet I am a long haired Grey Cat with a silky mane and very fluffy tail. I am the madam of the house. I used to work as a Massage Attendant. I enjoy sinking my paws into your belly and softly purring and occasionally drooling while I massage you with my claws. Now I am the madam of the house, and I keep my eyes and ears out for the other girls and keep the boys in line. Hobbies include catching snakes, birds and occasionally mice. Additional Comments: Marbles Female long haired fluffy grey kitty, extra toes I am a service provider Boys, if you are looking for a girl that does everything, here she is. Very new to the business this fluffy kitty is raring to go. Very open minded, willing to do EVERYTHING. Oral, Full Service, Bubabke (she does not really know what that means, but said she will try anything), orgies, gang bangs, duos, 3somes. This girl will do it all. Very friendly and affectionate. Loves being cuddled and stroked. Call now to book your time with this one of a kind. You should see what she does with her extra toes.

Another quirk some cerbies have witnessed...my dancing...I dance anywhere and everywhere. Again only when I feel comfortable...so if one day your grocery shopping and see this blonde chick shaking her booty in the aisle...it's probably me...I may be singing too...I'm not crazy,lol, quirky perhaps but happy always! ps-can't dance either..lol

Congrats on reaching 500 amazing post Passion Vitto, keep them cumming!

My childhood celebrity crush was Valerie Bertinelli on One Day at a Time. Just googled her and she still looks hot. Current would be Sandra Bullock. Love her in any movie I see her in.

The op is very new to the business. Posts indicate has only seen one MA. OP Handle suggests he has no real understanding of the business yet. So, everyone wants to make sure he is in full understanding of what he is planning to undertake. There is a real difference in helping someone out. Awesome to help someone with their mechanical work, or give them a credit card to help their business. Quite another thing though to manage ads, answer phones, do the scheduling. The law would look at someone who is helping out by providing mechanical services vs. actually managing someones business very differently. Just a thought!

Congrats to you sexy lady!!!

I wanted to add my thanks to Angela and Old Dog for all their hard work in putting together another fantastic social. It was great seeing everyone again and looking forward to the next social.

Congrats, Vitto! Always enjoy reading your posts.

Very true, however, one could also spin it around as he works for her as he is simply doing the reception and advertising and she is the person who makes the official decisions on where to advertise, when to work etc. I will definitely say this, you are very likely to scare clients off if you pick up the phone as they will think that you are the husband, wrong number, a pimp or any other series of things. I would definitely advise requesting text only if this is going to be the case, but if you are her pimp, I am simply going to say get a life.

Thanks to OD and Angela. It was a lovely night, and nice to see familiar and not so familiar faces! <3

Lots of good posts in those 500. Love having you here.

we i have a lot of little quirks but the one that comes to mind right now is that i check my alarm clock twice to make sure it is on even thou i know it is set. this is really true on days when i cannot sleep in and need to get up for something important.

Congrats BW! Way to go man! keep those posts coming!

I had a great time! Thanks to Old Dog and Angela for organizing. And a special thanks to MisterT for those orgasmic peanut butter and bacon cookies. Oh and Sara--call me ;) We have some more making out to do :)

Panties...no, didn't see those...might have seen something else though.... :lovers:

Well, I decided to take one for the team last night and made an appointment with Aisha. Lets just say that I can't post anything due to the rules and regulations of the site.

If the two travelling ladies had agreed to an interview, I would agree but our two ladies didn't and they were highlighted with their websites easily identifiable by look, one of them by name and stalked at the airport without notice or consent! How creepy and repugnant is that? Ftr, success in this business is built on discretion and quality clients don't like to deal with a provider who has had her name and business splashed all over the news. It isn't good in any way shape or form for a genuine provider. As someone who has been outted, I know the reality of this kind of publicity and there is no good in it. And if my intuition and sources are correct, the one that agreed to the interview is a provider of less than favorable ethics who has been banned here on CERB for constantly stealing text from other SPs and lying about it and that is one of the lesser of evils in the list of her questionable business practices. The arrogance was at best unpalatable and tasteless. I also sat and did the math on the "friend" who worked 9-12 days and made high $20G's. WTF? Talk about blowing smoke up someones ass! Unless she found a "wounded whale" and slaughtered him without shame or conscience, those numbers don't add up no matter how you run the columns. I'm calling bullshit on the whole article. Sensationalism that skews the publics perception of our industry once again. As MOD said, a slow news day that was filled with inaccuracies and stereotypes reinforcing misinformation that does nothing to improve our work conditions or community support... cat

I think there should be a fee. My doctor (15 years with her) charges $75 if you miss an appointment. Guys need to man up. Life happens, and there may be the rare occasion when an unforeseen circumstance arises, like a family emergency or a fender-bender, but as I see it, I am still responsible for the Sp's time, and lost donations. I would apologize and ask her what she felt was fair. I think half the fee is reasonable. It is disrespectful for a client to expect the SP to absorb the loss, when she was waiting on you. If an SP cancels at the last minute, it would be nice if she offered a token gesture of apology for the next time, but I wouldn't demand it. It is different as all I lose is a great time!!!