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1)Many women just are not as horny as men. 2)Most of those who are, are not comfortable with their sexuality and don't express it freely for fear of being attacked and ostracized for being a "slut" and being undisciplined. And I do believe that #1 is an indirect psychological result of #2. Society is a judgemental c---. The brave few don't give a crap about them, and live their lives on their own terms. And BTW, as long as your not a douchebag, it's fairly easy to get laid on CERB. ;)

Specifically girls, but I didn't want to put 'how to talk to young girls' in the subject line and have anyone think something weird about that. I just read this article about how to address little girls when you meet them, and I think it's brilliant. I admit, I am guilty of almost always complimenting their appearance when I meet a little girl. After reading this, I'm going to make a serious effort to change that. I remember when I was a child, I wasn't concerned about appearance. I would have wanted to talk about books, making cakes, cats (my interests haven't changed much, lol). It wasn't until people made appearance an issue that it became one. I think this is the best thing I've seen online in quite a while, and I hope it's something people can keep in mind around impressionable kids http://latinafatale.com/2011/07/21/how-to-talk-to-little-girls/

Maybe it's me overreacting here and if so I apologize to the board and the above members. However, those sunshine girls pics usually have a little blur that accompanies the pic, a blur that usually reveals personal information about the lady that could identify her. One of the main thing about this business is discretion. Any personal info reveal here even if indirectly done breaks discretion. it also has no value to members in deciding which lady they would like to visit. I am not sure if clients would be very happy had they appeared in the newspaper for some reason and a lady posted it here. We also need to respect the ladies privacy. What they do outside of CERB is their own business, and it should be up top them to decide if they want any of it mentioned on this board. Again sorry If I am overreacting on this thread. I just don't think it show go on!!!

Contrary to widespread opinion, not all males will want to fuck anything on two legs. Some of us can exert control over our reptilian brain's unbounded desires. A lot of what one hears about others can just be hyped machismo, and the ad industry and the MSM are not the least to blame here for these biases. Society at large believes these stereotypes we are fed, and it is hard to put them to rest. We guys, too, at least some large minority, are picky and have needs other than just immediate release in any available receptacle. We want to feel appreciated, attractive, lovable, trusted and understood by the other, and yes, in some sense strong and virile. We have emotional needs, just like women, but keep them closed off and unavailable to remedy. We'd like to experience the same pleasures that, for the most part, women also do. So why does this perception that it's hard to get laid, even if you're not a jerk, persist? If someone's having sex, there has to be another body present to tango with. Just some mental meanderings that I hope will stir more discussion. FR Additional Comments: I hope that made some sense. I resisted over-thinking this and editing it to death. :)

Thanks for posting that. I agree; "men are just all about sex" is the equivalent of "women are just all about babies", and neither one is always true. That said, each is a pervasive idea in our culture and we see examples of people who match that expected behaviour all the time. So when you're in your teens or twenties and trying to plumb the mysteries of the opposite gender (and even ourselves), they're easy placeholders to start with -- but should be replaced with something more nuanced the more we learn and experience. As for the original "why is getting laid hard" ... that's a complex one. A good starting point is: sex isn't always simple. Sometimes it's quite complicated, and sex with the wrong person can lead to drama, or worse. So lots of people, especially as we get older and some of the mystery and driving urge for immediate sex dissipates, tend to choose partners carefully. Prospective partners want you to be reasonably attractive, seem generally capable and to have a handle on stuff, and promise a positive experience that's worth the investment and risk. Everyone's got their own way of measuring those things, and their own set of priorities in that calculation (and this can be different at various times for the same person). This has long been a deeply interesting subject for me: what is sex to each of us? What do we think it means to have sex, or not to, and with whom? Why exactly is it important to us, and what parts of us respond to the idea and to the the act of sex? Why do we respond to particular people or things? The variety is enormous. But I could go on for pages and pages.

Thank you for your responses Emily and Cristy. Always welcomed and appreciated. Yes, thank heavens for Cerb ladies. If it was not for them, my chances of getting laid or experiences the pleasure of a woman's company. Would be zero. The only girlfriends I have had in life have been women who approached me. That has been very few and far between. Those relationships never lasted more than a few months. I do not believe I was a douche-bag (or other derogatory term). As the ladies and I remained good friends for many years after. I have Adult Asperger's. This is an Autism spectrum disorder. (No not like the rain man.) I look and act like everyone else. But I have trouble navigating social situations and making and keeping friends. Over the years I have trained myself to "fit in". But it is very draining emotionally and psychologically. Which often leads to major depression. I just realized that I have hijacked my own post/thread. So I will stop here.

Boo slut shaming

One thing that makes these kinds of discussions tricky is that it is impossible to separate what may be physiological differences between the sexes (if there are any) vs. socialized differences, the later of which is something Emily and Cleo Catra have touched on. Yes, of course each person is different and one can't stereotype an entire gender. But like it or not everyone is in one way or another influenced by the culture they grow up in. Sometimes it's subtle and we can't always be aware of where or how we've been shaped. I mean, just look at the recent article Cleo Patra shared in another thread about how people tend to talk to children: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=140617&highlight=children In any event all you have to do is look at different countries and different time periods to see what a vastly different array of views various groups have held towards sex, and how those views have influenced the people in that society. Yes, individuals within a given group will vary, but you can still spot trends. Our own society for a long time has generally said--sometimes explicitly and sometimes subtly--that men are expected to go after sex and that it is ok and natural for them to do so. On the other hand, how many messages are there out there telling woman that casual sex makes them something lessor or that it's shameful, that their bodies are to be protected? Hell, how many songs and jokes in movies are there about fathers protecting their daughters from boys? (While at the same time encouraging their sons when they make a "conquest".) Can anyone really say that all of this isn't going to have--overall--an effect on the expectations and views woman and men have regarding sex? I would think there's also a safety factor involved. I mean, if you look on any sex dating site you'll find a hundred men for each woman. But overall I suspect the man who meets someone online for anonymous sex is generally putting themselves at less risk than a woman. All that said, I'd like to end with the observation that we also have to remember we're so much more than just our gender. Our age, ethnicity, class, family, experience, and I'm sure a hundred other things all combine to make up who we are (and who society says we should be).

I really feel for your situation. While it may sound corny, I actually know several people who met life partners through on-line sites like e-harmony. That includes a 70 year old man who was lonely after his wife passed away. Now that you better understand your situation, you should continue to try to find what you are looking for. Don't put too much pressure on yourself, never feel ashamed or worthless.

That was before. I was diagnosed with Asperger's which was about 4 years ago. My response was, "So that is my major dysfunction". (Rye grin) Then anger. For not being aware of what my problem was for the last 42 years of my life... Then the doctors in their infamous wisdom decided to put me on early retirement. I felt ashamed, worthless. I gave up on dating since I had a dry spell for about 10 years. Out of desperation for affection I turned to escorts. I had a regular escort for three years, until last spring. when she retired.

Big hugs to you, unfortunately not everyone is sensitive and willing to be open to making new friends. Especially as we get older. But fear not you are in good hands here, and I speak from my heart when I say I care about your well being and happiness. I also appreciate your openness and thank you for sharing. :)

One thing I tend to do when talking to children is not dumb down my speech pattern. I talk to them as I would anyone else. Of course the topics of what I am talking about and the language I'm using are guarded lol. But the tone of my voice remains consistent with my usual speech pattern. I've noticed a lot of people's voices get higher when they're talking to children...and the way they word things change. It's like subconsciously, they all of a sudden start pretending they are the child's age. I don't do that. And in my experience, children always seem to notice and appreciate that from me. As for babies. I don't do the "goo goo ga ga" sounds at them. I've tried and it usually results with a "wtf" look from the baby and he/she crawls back to one of their parents and gives them a look that quite clearly states "who invited the weirdo?" lol. Now I just talk to them. Sure, they probably don't understand everything I'm saying yet but on some level they seem to understand that I'm speaking to them as a real person, and not as a puppy, and they seem to really enjoy that. They don't squeal laughter at me like when someone tickles them or plays the "peek-a-boo" game with them...but my method of talking to them seems to intrigue and interest them. I'm not a parent and I don't know the first thing about raising kids....but I figure interesting and intriguing a baby can't be too bad for their mental development right?

I'm surprised there would be a 5th date is there wasn't some interest. If non-verbal cues are a problem, maybe you need to explain a bit more about your situation. She may be sitting there wondering when you'll make a move. Porthos

To be perfectly honest, my sex drive soared in my mid to late thirties :). Prior to that it existed but not with near as much fervor. Like a great wine, better with age!

I think it's just because women (at least the women I know), tend to be a bit pickier. I can't count how many times I've heard guys at a bar/party say something horrible along the lines of 'any port in a storm', as in, they'll fuck anyone willing. Women, even girls I know who are dying to get laid, will turn down man after man if she doesn't find him attractive.

I'm surprised that a man would find it hard to get laid as I know a lot of horny women, lol. In my circle most of the women frown upon my lifestyle, they don't approve of escorting:( They do love to talk about and enjoy sex though. Some of my friends are coupled and I always find the male counterparts less likely to talk about and be open about sex. Women imo at least verbally are far more sexual and appear as they'd be easy to "lay" but a man would have to do the pursuing. I as well as some of my female friends would never approach-or pick up a man, we feel that's the mans job. I personally, when out, would prefer if that's all a man wanted from me, would just come out and ask me. I think I may be more male like as I don't require the emotional attachment, perhaps that's why I'm well suited for escorting, but I am a bit different than most:)

Personally, even if legalized in Canada, I wouldn't ever consider it. I like privacy in all aspects of my life and couldn't imagine ever enjoying such an arrangement and if I am not enjoying myself how could I expect my gentleman callers to?

So much easier to remember all this from the outside than when you're stuck in the midst of it with everything else happening around you. It's funny how you make these commitments to yourself to NOT be like your parents or be this way or that and out the window it flies. It all boils down to love and doing your best. Remembering that children are just little people and they deserve the same respect and intelligence that you would give an adult. The topics may be different but the underlying messages should be the same. You matter, you are important and you are a sum of your whole. Okay, time to start fresh today and do a better job! Thanks to everyone who takes time to help our kids!

Interesting Spud I eat blackberries, raspberries, blueberries and sometimes strawberries every morning, maybe that's why I'm always ready! Or it could be because Brad and Miquelon are always on my mind:69:

I wanted to take a few moments to thank not only the gentlemen but the entire Cerb community for one of the best changes I've seen since my return to the hobby ( had been gone since 2008 )... During the pre-chatroom era ( circa 2005-2008 ) I was often chastised for being an SP who wasn't a size 0. I'm a size 12. You know who else was a size 12? Marilyn. I don't need to write out her last name, you know damn well who I am talking about. Over the last few months, I can see that the diversity of cerbites has increased greatly, which shows in cases like preferable women's sizes no longer being a biased, one-sided affair. Even if women my size are not your cup of tea, the respect shown concerning "to each their own" is staggeringly exceeding my expectations. Thank you cerbites for believing in "all women are beautiful in their own way" !!! An especially BIG thanks to the mods also, as this chastisement was allowed to take place on "the other board" which is the main reason for my switch to this one only :) I love your no tolerance for BS! ________________________________________________ FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 1. Marilyn Monroe's body measurements: Height: 5'5 Weight: 118-140 lbs Bust: 35-37 inches Waist: 22-23 inches Hips: 35-36 inches Bra size: 36D 2. Dove's "REAL BEAUTY" campaign: http://www.dove.ca/en/Social-Mission/About-the-Movement.aspx 3. Definition beau·ti·ful adj. a) Having qualities that delight the senses, especially the sense of sight. b) Excellent; wonderful. beauti·ful·ly adv. beauti·ful·ness n. Synonyms: beautiful, lovely, pretty, handsome, comely, fair All these adjectives apply to what excites aesthetic admiration. Beautiful is most comprehensive: a beautiful child; a beautiful painting; a beautiful mathematical proof. Lovely applies to what inspires emotion rather than intellectual appreciation: "They were lovely, your eyes" (George Seferis). What is pretty is beautiful in a delicate or graceful way: a pretty face; a pretty song; a pretty room. Handsome stresses poise and dignity of form and proportion: a very large, handsome paneled library. "She is very pretty, but not so extraordinarily handsome" (William Makepeace Thackeray). Comely suggests wholesome physical attractiveness: "Mrs. Hurd is a large woman with a big, comely, simple face" (Ernest Hemingway). Fair emphasizes freshness or purity: "In the highlands, in the country places,/Where the old plain men have rosy faces,/And the young fair maidens/Quiet eyes" (Robert Louis Stevenson). 4. Most importantly: BEAUTY LIES WITHIN THEY EYE OF THE BEHOLDER

Well, the quick answer that jumps to mind when reading that question: :Cunning: But I suspect that's not what you meant. :) I'm not sure I believe that foods make someone horny on a physiology level, or at least not for me they don't. However, on a psychological/emotional level there are a few that do it for me: --Champagne --Rich chocolate --Anything with whip cream on it --Something with an ice cube in it on a hot, muggy day Again, they don't do it for me in a physical sense, it's just that some of these I either associate with physical pleasure or, never far from having sex on the brain as it is, I get ideas of fun that could be had with them which turns me on.

When I was a child I would always get how cute and tiny I was and a pinch on the cheek, especially form one of my female neighbours. It drove me nuts and left an impression I think of how important ones appearance is. I think whatever a child hears over and over again is going to leave an impression and perhaps even form their opinion on how they see themselves and everyone else. I am a very visual person and I can be overly critical of my own appearance and those who I'm with, almost obsessively so. Whether this is from lessons learned or genetic, who knows. Now when I meet and talk to children I make an effort not to mention their appearance. Most kids are very curious and will ask questions so its easy to get into a conversation without having to mention their obvious cuteness.

I love sendind them and i love receiving them. I think communication is the most important thing....before and after an encounter. So I will always send a note after meeting a lady...hoping it will bring a smile to her lips. Receiving a note always put bounce in my steps... Recently I meet a lady and communication with her so so great....I will love her forever!!!

Thank you for the amazing article Cleo. It certainly makes you rethink how to address them as well as just talk to them or of them in general.

So Ladies, who would you rather come to rescue... Firefighters? Policeman? Army? Screw that, I'll do the saving!

Go ahead ladies!

Im sure we can ALL relate to this. Even Men. They seem to leave men out of these campaigns supporting self esteem. Men have heart, brains, and soul too. Only I guess it's less socially acceptable for men to have 'feelings' or 'body image issues'. Either way just wanted to share this link on how self critical people can be on themselves, yet the world sees them differently. ;-) Everyone has SEXY in them ;) Giddy Up!

A couple of days ago, it was noted in the Barb's thread that Jasmin/Jazz was the Sunshine Girl of the day. Errol McGihon is the Sun photographer from Ottawa, so I'm wondering if we see Errol doing the photographs that chances are good that the girl is a local Ottawa girl, and a dancer at that? Here was Jasmin's spread: Jasmin from Barb's. Additional Comments: Today there was a new girl, named Sandra, who looks like she could be a dancer somewhere too. Anyone know if she is? Here's today's girl: Sandra.

Bawdy houses and brothels are illegal in Canada. But the laws pertaining to them may change if the Supreme Court of Canada upholds the Ontario Court of Appeal decision or, even better, endorses the Superior Court of Justice decision of Justice Himmel in October 2010. If it becomes legal to operate a brothel in Canada, there's no way to be certain what those brothels will be like. In most major cities, there are sex workers who are very interested in running brothels and who have been engaged in discussions with city officials about zoning, by-laws, regulations and related matters. Many people imagine brothels along the lines of the things portrayed in Old West movies or The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. Others are simply interested in a number of women being able to share a house or an apartment for their work. Some people have proposed owning small apartment buildings in which sex workers would work in private suites. There are a lot of other possibilities. Most of us here would be pleased to be without the threat of prosecution while we continue to work much as we have for years. Not everyone wants to work in a publicly-known brothel. Many of us are highly protective of our privacy and would not want to risk compromising it. Women who have worked as independents for a long time may not be interested in giving up any degree of control over their work, workplace and general environment. But quite a few ladies want the companionship, mutual support and enhanced safety that are likely to be part of working together. Men who visit paid companions also seem to have a wide range of preferences. Some say that they would be happy to go to a publicly-known brothel. Others say that they prefer to keep their private life strictly private. I think that everyone who values the safety factor that legal brothels may offer should recognize that this will probably come with a price. Security considerations are heightened anywhere people are engaging in intimate activity. Screening, including providing full identification, will surely be required of publicly-known brothels, at least initially.

Reminds me of this short video that's been going around:

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A bawdy house is anywhere that a prostitute "habitually" uses for work. This means a place where she's seen several clients. Most of the time, it refers to the lady's incall location, which may be her home or an apartment she uses for work. If she shares an apartment with other ladies, it's a bawdy house according to the law. In the case of hotel rooms, there must be a way for the police to prove that she has seen more than one or two "friends" in her room since even prostitutes are allowed to take vacations and rent hotel rooms for the same reasons anyone else might. Generally speaking, the hotel management will address the problem with a lady rather than call the police. Not only is this less likely to cause a commotion, but the hotel also has an interest in not being charged with living on the avails of prostitution in the form of being paid for the room she uses. If the lady or ladies rent an apartment, the landlord will be informed and will be required to evict them immediately or face charges of being on the avails. When massage parlors are raided, bawdy house charges are often included on the rap sheet. The Asian micro-brothels can also be considered to be bawdy houses and when they, or any other place being used by human traffickers or people bringing in others under the temporary foreign worker programs, are raided, bawdy house charges are often part of the list. It is an offense to be "found in" a bawdy house. It doesn't matter whether you're dressed, undressed, in the middle of intimate activities, answering the phone or doing laundry. If you're there, you're presumed to know what's going on. You may only be found in the place or you may be found in and receiving the avails if you're working for the sex workers there. There have been cases where alleys and areas of public parks have been deemed to be bawdy houses because they were generally known to be places where sex was available for a fee, but this isn't common. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=474210&postcount=103 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=474210#post474210

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I love to keep in touch with everyone through emails and Pms, before and after an encounter.. I have develope wonderful friendships with some of the gentlemen I have the pleasure to meet.. and is great to keep in touch specially when time or other reasons do not allow to get together often... or as often as sometimes we would like to meet... It makes me very happy to receive a thank you message after an encounter... from someone that I have just met and from others that I have met in more than one ocasion as well I s good to know that I brought a smile, and sometimes a releive from regular day and life.. :) And I always reply back... :) because I like to let them know that they have made my day with their note :) and also made me smile

The "back in my day" rant really hits home. I think the difference is that various generations will have their own comfort zone. When I was growing up, there were no cell phones, no e-mail, no tablets or I pods, no netflix etc.. I recall that the Commodore 64 computer and Pay TV were considered "cutting edge" lol. With reference to the above quote, talking on the phone was considered normal, in the same way that texting is the norm today. Young people have never known a world without modern technology, so for them it is the accepted standard as opposed to a technological advancement. I happen to hate texting and will only do so when there is no alternative. I would much rather pick up the phone and call someone to hear their voice, but it's only because it's what I'm used to. I'm sure someday when the newest technological communications marvel is unveiled and youth of the day jump on the bandwagon, people will be saying "Why doesn't anyone text anymore?" haha.

Why does cof have to be YOU jacking off? Women have hands too! And I've had many a cum-splatter on my face while my tits did all the work... Just saying.

congrats castle, keep it up...great poster!

Thank you so much everyone! :) This is so awesome, I feel so special and appreciated! :) Your kind thoughts mean so much to me, and they are especially meaningful because it's just out of the blue, for no particular reason! :) It's like getting flowers when there is no special occasion - it makes it just that much more special! :) Thank you xoxo

Proof that men usually get better looking with age

Gina at Vibe gives a very good massage, nice and hard. Also Kelly at CMJ, not as hard, but still very nice and relaxing. Polydeuces

Ryan Phillipe... a.k.a. the ex Mr. Resse Witherspoon. He is hot!

Yum. :lovers: Additional Comments: Yes! I am definitely on board with Ryan Gosling! Blue Valentine is one of my favourite movies. I love this clip of him singing and playing the ukulele: :) So cute.

This sexy beast is probably the only guy that could get me wet from just looking at him, tmi maybe but I just had to say:) Additional Comments: another view of this perfect man

Thank you all is very kind to think of me :boobies: Bizou EvaCharms xxxxx

There are a couple of things to think about, my first piece of advice you already know, that it isn't life or death issue, and possibly it just really doesn't matter that much. If you made it less about 2nd shots, and try to space out and prolong the first one, you will relax more. One thing I tell some callers is that the session isn't actually cheaper with more shots, it isn't like 150 is 150 for one, and 75 each for 2 sogs lol. Plus more effort and energy and disappointment can occur and frustration if the session is designed to allow for 2 shots, but there is no 2nd, but in the meantime the first one was over in the first 15 minutes, the 2nd one didn't happen but 30 minutes are spent frantically trying to make it work. Seems counterproductive. But the tips I have are the first one is done right away, within or less than 10 minutes. This maximizes your recovery time. There should be a rest period, like massage or foreplay activity, no real attempt to get hard, just recovery. Then when there is direct contact, keep it to hand work only, without condom for a while, then on with the condom, which should include warming lubricant inside the condom to add more sensation for you. Avoid laying on your back on the 2nd sog, get upright, doggy or standing. Then finally, think outside the box. With condom on and in full service, chances are a 2nd sog feels like it isn't going to happen. So switch, to a hj, uncovered, and you should be standing or upright. I suppose if she does bbbjs, then stick with that. In the standing position, and without condom, this is the way to find out if the 2nd sog will happen at all. And keep note of the time, be the one to pack it in, don't make her have to say it. Acknowledge a valient effort was made, but it is time to say not today. And repeat. You've seen 5 different sps, but can do this with an SO. Doing it with the SO means you can do it when you know the person, so repeat with one a few times, then try the 2nd sog. Don't do it or expect it on the first visit, or the 2nd, stick with shorter sessions if you can, then one day opt for the hour and try it out.