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is not acceptable! This isn't a flea market. Take the time to find out what options a lady offers (ie length of time and corresponding donations) and either book with her or continue your search! BTW "can you do x amount of time for x amount of donation?" is akin to negotiating!

However, purchasing a house is quite a bit different then services of a provider. I would be very careful about comparing purchasing a house to purchasing time with a provider. Purchasing a house is an inanimate object - a service provider is providing a service. Who goes into McDonalds, and says, hey, a burger at Burger King is cheaper, so I want a Big Mac and want to pay what Burger King charges. Those that negotiate, also want EVERYTHING included for the lower rate. Those that say they only want a BJ also want once they get there to kiss, finger and greek for the lower rate. This is why we get so upset with those that try to negotiate. Even after being told not to negotiate, these guys will try to make to make the provider feel bad about her rates and say "that's too high, please can I get a deal?" In this business, and probably the only business that I am aware of, negotiating is never ok. Just don't do it.

... until the day arrives that someone is negotiating percentage points for interest on a loan to lay along side me in my bed I will not negotiate my consideration. As long as my service costs less than a day at a golf tournament, it isn't up for discussion. I am a negotiator, anyone who knows me will attest that I can be embarrassing to go shopping with. I will negotiate any PRODUCT price and have done so in stores from Walmart to Holt Renfrew but I don't negotiate with my lawyer, my mechanic, my general contractor, my accountant, my hairdresser, my nail shop or my RMT. These are MY service providers and I value the work they do because it is quality and I trust them to give me their best every time I walk thru the door. All I ask is that I'm treated with the same respect when I give my best as I do each and every time a guest walks thru my door... cat

If I may put my nickel' worth in here... I really wish people would stop comparing women to tires, McDonalds, cars and the list goes on. We are human beings and offering an intimate service. While we do have a list of services we offer, we are not a drive thru where you have it your way. And as Meg said, this is a luxury service. Not something that is a necessity in life like a roof over your head or food to put on the table. Seeing an SP is a privelege, not a right. It becomes very disconcerting that people think of humans this way no matter what one's view on prostitution is. At the end of the day, we are PEOPLE with feelings and emotions. If we were robots, I don't think negotiating would be a problem because the service would be mechanical and the entire experience that men seek out which is intimacy would be a moot point because there would be none. If you want a menchanical experience, there are lot of ads out there that offer $80-$100 experience but remember you get what you pay for. And if one thinks they're going to get the whole nine yards, you are in for a big disappointment. They can advertise the best experience all they want but for that amount they will do the minimal required and that will be it. There will be no established connection, none of the extras that a higher end SP will offer but again if that's what a hobbyist wants, then there is a market for it with lots of supply and demand. Enjoy!

I know people that will negotiate all services. What I find amusing is they feel that they got a "deal" to begin with and then complain when they didn't get all that they wanted or needed. Negotiating multi-hour rates like a court case or a custom built house is one thing, taking 5-10% off $100 000 still leaves a viable cash flow and small excess can be trimmed where needed to accommodate the discount. Asking me to take a 40% pay cut on my fee that has not increased in 9 years for a luxury service is simply arrogant and insulting. Pussy is not a poor mans hobby and if a man needs a discount because he genuinely doesn't have it in his pocket then he should realize that he genuinely CAN'T AFFORD to be hobbying and needs to get his financial house in order... cat

Thanks, Meg! Same goes for "can you price match another lady's rate?" Sure, only if she charges more then I do! lol

It's the quickest way to ensure your request will be denied. Sometimes, when I get angry with a negotiator, they respond with 'it was just a question'. NO. It was not just a question. You asked me to bargain with my body. Not acceptable. Occasionally I've responded to these requests with "Sure! But first, give me your bosses number, so I can call her and let her know that wages are up for negotiation and you'll go to work Monday for 60% of your salary". Usually gets the point across :P

Down with bras! :boobies: The "perks" of having smaller boobies is that I rarely have to wear a bra! Some people like them, but I hate them!! :) YAY for free flowing titties!

Luckily for me, 80% of these disrespectful requests come to me via text-so BAM-80% of them are handled just as they should be-with NO response :boobies:, since not only was your request insulting, but clearly the person also has a total disregard for how I choose to handle my business. As for the other 20% those are never answered either ;) Also, I always keep note of the requester so I can make it a point to NEVER EVER see that person. Some may not think of it as a big deal-but it is-it says sooooo much about the person who does this. Remember-we are mostly online, and when you represent yourself in such a way, that is all us ladies have to go by. I mean the way I see it -my offer is for nice men to spend nice times with a fabulous woman such as myself, and you want to offer me a lower rate... That makes me go from hot to NOT. I would also like to say that I think that due to the high amount of $80-$100 sessions that are being sold as terrific on another site-may be a slight indication as to why the amount of discount-requests are growing. There are many with rates out there to suit your budget-so choose em ;) But when one is approaching a lady who chooses not to offer the rate you are looking to spend is a big waste of time for EVERYONE.

I know the economy isn't the best but this is pretty sad. If you can't afford the rate of a real woman you should stick to drunk chicks at the club or something.

I like where you are going Cat. What we offer is a luxury and not a necessity. Luxuries are purchased with disposable income or with monies expressly saved for the luxuries we desire. If you do not have the available funds for such a luxury then you must either save up or keep on dreaming! Bargaining for an item is one thing but bargaining for someone's time is insulting! Do your research and find someone who offers what you can afford or settle for the palm sisters.

I think the same way, you don't negotiate with service providers (I'm not talking just companion I'm talking everything in general) its rude and its degrading for the provider. I work as a general contractor from time to time, doing small jobs and usually the first thing I saw is how much I charge, if the don't want to pay that hire someone else. You're paying for my skills and expertise, sure there probable people who charge less but there people you aren't as skilled either. If you knew you weren't going to get your full amount you asked for do you really think you would put an effort into it. I know I'm not going to give the same quality and amount of time for a lower fee. If you can't afford it save up, or request less time. If its on the menu. I usually charge a min of 4 hours depending on the job and location. So if a lady only books a min 1h don't try and book 1/2h there is a reason they don't offer it. It's usually a waste of time and not enough profit.

Thanks Meg, this is an issue we seem to deal with on a regular basis, and it is so frustrating. For those that wonder why the lady will not respond to further inquiries after asking "I only have $100", or what will $50 get me" or my favorite "wow, your prices are way out there, I will give you $30 less then you want", you are on her permanent do not book list. Don't ever lowball her rates, if you can't afford her fees, move on, save up or go down town and find a streetwalker that will give a bj for $20. For those that say "hey its only a question", you are insulting her and she does not appreciate it. Now, on the flip side of the coin, I really appreciate the guys who not only pay her rate, but give a generous tip on top of it. You are the true gems and we really appreciate this. Our time together is special and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Again, thanks Meg.

I have been with 5 guys at once one time awhile ago. Hee hee i couldnt help myself! Totally fun and at least i can now say i did it :P. I guess watching all that porn inspired me :p

Funniest thing is when someone texts me (never CERB members, I assume) and asks to barter for my services. Ex. "I'm broke but I'll give you this laptop and it's worth like $100". Not sure if the boss would like half a laptop as a door fee ;) I especially dislike it when clients are told the fee upfront, but knowing I collect at the end, wait to stiff me until we are done. It puts me in a bad mood because I do my best in the session and feel disappointed when the client knowingly accepts services he is unable to pay for.

This is a business/lifestyle UNLIKE ANY OTHER Negotiating not cool, not cool at all Only the SP knows her value no one else. If she finds few clients because of her rate she can re-evaluate. Her rate is also how much her time is worth I've met a couple very special ladies, ones I call friends. I wouldn't ever consider negotiating. A friend wouldn't try to shortchange a friend and a client, well good client wouldnt try to shortchange a SP To me negotiating is trying to shortchange Finally in my experience 95% of my encounters have a value exceeding the donation required. These ladies, these Goddesses have allowed me to be with them intimately, not just provided a escape but treated me special like a boyfriend, well friend, not as a john. Negotiate with them, NO treat them with respect YES...and that means treat them like ladies deserving of respect because they are ladies and deserve respect A rambing RG

First of all, it is RMT - not RTM. RMT means REGISTERED Massage Therapy. In order to be an RMT, they must follow among other things, a code of ethics, code of practices, carry liability insurance and other issues. One of the code of practices states: Client to be draped, so that the client's genitalia or gluteal cleft are not exposed. According to the code of ethics, they must being alert to and reporting, as required, any unethical practice by any member of MTAM; reporting to appropriate authorities any health care practitioner who abuses a client physically, verbally, sexually or financially; I could easily be an RMT, however, I choose not to, as I would not be able to provide services other then massage therapy. If you want to use your health coverage to pay for massage therapy, that is what you will get. However, if you want anything extra and have your health provider pay for your happy ending, you will most likely get charged with fraud and possibly sexual assault. When I go to my doctor for a pap test, and I asked if he could also give me a fuck at the same time (after all, my legs are open, and he just has to insert his penis inside me), he would be drummed out of physicians college for this. There is no difference in getting an RMT to do this then getting my gyno to give me a happy ending - after all, my medical coverage should pay for this - right? Please, don't try to get RMT's to give you a happy ending and get your health coverage to pay for this. The RMT would consider this sexual assault, and most likely report you to the police for trying. If you want anything extra, find a provider that gives this service. And of course, your health coverage should not have to pay for this - this is something you have to pay for.

I've had people text me those kinds of negotiating questions and I say to them "Would you like to go to work for free today or have your boss tell you that you will only be paid X amount?" No I didn't think so! Don't negotiate. It's tacky and will not get you anywhere! Think about the outcome of all this...you go to see the SP and she is completely resenting you. You think you're going to get good service? I highly doubt it. This is why the better and more reputable SPs will NOT take whatever they can get. We actually care and take pride in our services and our rates are on par with that. We enjoy what we do for a living but at the same time we also have bills to pay, mortgages and other things to take care of . Don't mistake the fact that just because a person enjoys what they do has to accept a lesser rate. In fact, they should be getting paid their asking rate because the experience will be that much better. Taking an intimate encounter with a woman and turning it into all dollars and cents and what can you get for this or that completely cheapens the entire experience. If someone is looking for that, they can hit the streets and look there. You definitely get what you pay for!

I would also suggest Ksenia at ALO , her legs go for days ....she has a profile on here that you could view as well.

I wonder how much pressure is put on the provider when she agrees to negotiate and accepts the low ball offer... Negotiating for this kind of intimate experience is a real turn off for the provider (at least for me, my lady friends and many others) no matter how you look at it. If you can't afford her donation or you find it to high for your liking, it is simple, move on to the next lady who offers a rate you are comfortable paying. Fortunately, the majority of the gentlemen are very respectful and understand what kind of "service" they are receiving and because of that, they do not try to low ball the ladies. (I used "you" but it is not directed at you, explorer69) It is one thing when a lady (or agency) OFFERS a special and quite another when a client/potential client tries to negotiate and asks for a reduced rate ;)

I have to admit, I'm starting to feel relieved that when I go for underwear all I have to do is check to see if the size says "small", "medium" or "large." It seems with women's clothing the sizing rules change with every store! When it comes to bras, I'm just happy I've figured out how to unclasp one. It sounds like trying to ensure you've purchased one that is your proper fit is a full out quest (hmm, maybe that could be Peter Jackson's next project. Or was that Two Towers...?)

I currently have more pink,purple and blue hair than my natural dark brown Next month it will be turquoise and pink after I don't know I like being all the colors of the rainbow, I found it fit my personality better than just being a brunette I'm not really specific when it come to what turn me on...but lately half shave head and purple head have been really grabbing my interest a bit more

Thank you to everyone who has responded so far. It's been really helpful to read your comments and has definitely provided some insight on how I could handle such a situation in the future. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to recommend they not read my recommendations if it causes them unhappiness and move on from there. I should probably also mention that although I'm a paid companion, the experience I have with everyone is different. I don't want to insinuate that they are more special than everyone else because that wouldn't be fair/true and could do more harm than good. Also, I shouldn't have to lie to appease someone's insecurity about my lifestyle, chosen employment, etc. Perhaps the undercurrent of such comments about recommendations is a hope that the relationship can become more than what it is currently. Or a desire to move beyond the negotiated realm of an SP/client relationship. If that's the case, then obviously there is nothing I can do. I'm simply not sure what's expected of me in those moments. I care deeply about people and it upsets me to think my lifestyle causes people harm in those moments. As many have expressed, it isn't my problem, and while I agree I definitely find it hard nonetheless. I'm empathetic, what can I say? I think I get lost in my own thoughts when I start thinking about the complexities of these relationships we have on CERB. There are so many layers to our interactions! I wouldn't change any of it for the world though. I absolutely adore this profession. I love interacting with people, making connections, and even in these more difficult moments I still learn so much about others, and myself. It's a great way to live.

I read that over 80 % of all women wear the wrong sized bra. I found that fascinating. For the record, all sizes are great! From perky A's all the way up. Variety is the spice of life!

Women of CERB: You are preaching to the choir. However many of your competitors on BP, as well as some members of CERB will negotiate their rate depending on how busy they are.It is an industry norm.Even many agencies will reduce their fee on occasion.Just look how many ads there are on CERB advertising "specials". If I have seen that you have advertised a special, I will ask if it is still available. What is the harm in that? Instead of being insulted just good naturally reply " Not today, but I'll let you know if i ever have a special for new clients" or "hah ha good try, but I''ll give you the time of your life for my regular rate". If you get insulted and respond accordingly you will turn potential clients off. These potential clients could be "cash cows" in the future. Most people that I know who are self employed, have varying rates depending on how busy they are and whether they want to attract potential clients. Some of my regulars i have met through a discounted rate. They were so good that I was quite prepared to pay "full freight" on repeat visits.

Bretton Woods, While the spirit of your point may be valid, I'm not sure it quite applies to this particular discussion, just in that I don't see that it has been limited to "blonde, brunette, and redhead". Several posts, including the original one, have mentioned black hair. Or do you mean because overall there aren't many in the world, that it's Eurocentric to discuss blonde and red hair at all? If so, I still don't see the problem with anyone suggesting that's what they personally find attractive. A person can't consciously help what hair colour they find appealing (now if someone where to go further and say those with a certain hair colour are inherently better people, that's problematic). I mean, I've always found something very hot about people--of any culture--who have dyed or streaked their hair with an interesting colour (purple, pink, etc). And of course that represents approximately zero to one percent of the world's population. :) Anyway, if forced to pick one I guess I'd have to say I tend to find red hair the most striking. But in reality--like most physical features--I usually end up finding every hair colour attractive. It's more the style the lady wears it and how well it suits her that makes it attractive, so I end up changing my choice depending on who I'm admiring. As in most things, yay for variety! As for importance, as Miquelon says, this is all mostly about an initial attraction. At the end of the day personality is going to make all the difference.

Strictly appearance wise I have no preference of hair colour, to me its how she wears it. How it compliments her other features even personality. I've been with some who had blue and pink streaks and she was rocking it. She was absolutely beautiful. But for me beauty is often enhanced or turned of by their personality. I must admit if find kind, loving and caring people more attractive.

I saw the AD, and it sure covered all that dramatic stuff of them doing their bullying to Jessie, the bed flip, Candice's flip out, and Howard's as well. Then GM. omg, he didn't barely hold her hand one time in the 3 weeks (is it 3 weeks) and she's going off as badly as Aaryn did when David left and A and D had a lot more canoodling before eviction. it's a bit over the top, but it helped keep her off the block maybe. now they have already done the Have Nots and the nominations, so now we'll just see what happens after that. I can't really believe that Aaryn is that clueless not just about what she said but how she might be perceived outside the house. But that isn't really the whole thing that makes me think she's wacky, but she actually accuses Amanda of trying to cause trouble and drama for coming directly to her one on one and with no one else around to clue her in about all this lol And after all that, like that isn't enough, she actually plays a victim card about being picked on because she's blonde and blue eyed. okey dokey. i wish they would vote her out because she just is that dumb, but they probably won't because like Elissa, Aaryn is the new bad guy and most people like to have an easy target left in the house rather than vote them out. Next thing you know, that person is in the final two and taking home the bucks.

Myself and two gorgeous women! It is simply heaven!

Frankly, I wish I was rich enough so that I could negotiate with the lovely ladies on CERB! Except I would be negotiating upwards and squirrel them away for days at a time as I love to spoil women! I know it's a sickness, but I can't help it dammit!

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=141098

Well on the eve of the Celebration of My Father's Life some ramblings My dad's second wife for the past seven to eight months played home nurse not knowing for how long. Harder than you'd think. Draining fluid off his lungs, putting up with his mood swings, having to feed him, driving him to all appointments staying with him 24/7 and much more. They were less husband and wife than dependant and caregiver When she said I do after the line for better or worse she did end up with the worse and stayed with him...not romantic but true Now dad, when he and mom were having problems in their marriage he didn't put any effort into trying to work out the problems...no counselling no nothing. He just left her I just find it kinda ironic that the true love shown him when he was dying he couldn't muster even a little to mom and try to work out their problems together Not a bash of dad BTW just a perspective of someone human A rambling RG

My apologies for the hijack about to happen but before anyone, in Winnipeg or elsewhere, chooses to make hearsay accusations about SPs " known to have it " ( yeah right, who told you, their OB? ) & go running to the PM system we all know will be used to disparage them, you may want to read this article. Right Here. Then, unless you were physically with them at the crotch-swab-result wake to console them, keep your counsel! Sandi P.S. Hope you don't mind C.S., I feel confident you will agree as to its relevance.

Two guys and I a number of years ago. AWESOME! One man in my bed is great too, if he is good at what he does! ;-)

Doesn't sound bizarre at all. Intimacy is subjective. If you felt it was too much, you have every right to not do it. SPs aren't the only ones with boundaries. Any woman who would answer " Yes, I give in" may as well be wearing a target on her back that says, "Please ignore my boundaries." The fact that you use the terminology, "Give in" is monumentally disconcerting. No I don't give in. I do, however, have an expression on my face that says all I need to convey should any " man " keep trying to push past my level of comfort. It says, " Try that again & you will need a crash course in how to masturbate with only your feet ". You are essentially asking professional companions to publicly breach the confidence of a guest to satisfy, what I can only ascertain, a very invasive case of carnal curiosity. My answer to you would be, "It is none of your business what I do with him." Yes really. Believe it or not some of us have a personal life, we aren't 24/7 on call paid for vagina. And as shocking as this revelation may be to you, we are all very different people, ages, body type, hair/eye colour but mostly, in personality & boundaries. We weren't created in Petrie dishes & raised on special Hoochie Farms for God's sake. Now if she promised kissing, daty, whatever & then declined to offer it in person, only 2 reasons come to mind. 1- She lied to get you there, not cool. 2- Blow into your hand, take a whiff & ask yourself if you would let that stick it's tongue in your mouth. You also use the term "making love " repeatedly. As much as I enjoy my time with my guests & really get off on a lot of the sex, I am not making love to you. No amount of money you pay me buys my heart. Period. If you want a love making session where you will get the same thing each time, get a girlfriend. If you don't want that, you need to do a reality check on your SP expectations coupled with better research. So to answer more succinctly your thread title, " That's too intimate? Really? Yes. Really!!!! That's what happens when you deal with humans as opposed to robots. Sandi

I have found after being an SP for a while I can manage the balance but I'm not going to lie and say everything is perfect. I hold a lot of responsibility in my personal life and in my family I am the "go to" person when something is wrong. This has stressed me out a lot. I am the second mother and always there. I play psychologist, nurturer, the one who listens, the one who helps. . I do it because they're family and I don't expect things in return. I am kind but at the same time I make sure it's not mistaken for weakness. This has often carried over into my job as an SP whether it affected my schedule or whatever. If I'm having a real hard time personally, I find I can't see clients. However, there are times over the course of a day with something has made me upset and one of my favorite regulars or a new client will call and when they visit, I'm in a good mood again. I don't find I have two personnas because I don't have to psych myself up to do this job or pretend to be someone else. However, I do admit that I don't go around in my personal life acting seductive to others but it is a natural part of who I am. I can turn it on or off but I certainly don't fake my passion and sensuality with clients. That's inherent within me. When I am with a client, they have my attention and I put aside whatever it is on mind as there will always be a solution. If there is something really troubling me, I won't book appts. I have found that when I'm at home and have my "me" time, the phone is off and I don't focus on anything work related. I leave my work at the door. We all need that.

You're a sweetheart Leticia :) I'm wearing those scandalous short shorts again today ;)

Greetings, I'm an instinctively sensual woman with a playful demeanor. I believe a sensual massage lies within using both hands and body to simultaneously relax and excite the senses. I take the time to savior the entire experience and seek guests that share in my vision. My availability this week: Monday 10am-4pm Tuesday 3:30pm-11pm Wednesday 10am-4pm My recommendations: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43994&highlight=sensual+erin I'm excited for my new venture and to meet the very lovely angels team. Care to help me earn my wings? ;) Please call 613 274 7073, or pm to book our reservation. Sensually yours, Erin xoxo

Well if your going to take a 40% pay cut you should provide 40% less service. Since sex usually requires 2 people, for argument sake lets say its a 50/50 act. Now since you take away 40% leaving 10% left out of your share of 50%. You could alway seduce the gentleman and undress him then leave him and his little friend high and dry. I think that take care of 10% don't you. Now if this happen frequently you could always invest in a blow up doll and leave the gentleman to his thing. Roflmao When asked wtf, well your response can be your donation covered my expense first leaving you with this much service left. Haha

If you talk to her, she will tell you that in order to become a customer, you much sign up for a chat website and pay $25 for a show first. She will tell you that it is because she has been burned before and this is a way to screen her clients. I smelt the scam as soon as she said it. Didn't take it any further. Would suggest that others do the same.

First Nat thanks for such an honest thread. It is your heart and soul that we love and the way you see the world and care for those who know you that makes us love you. And we've yet to meet. Gotta fix that one day. Anyway...my perspective. First I know everyones comfort level with this lifestyle and choices is different. Our emotional states vary and in fact mine have dramatically in the 3+ years I've been participating. At times it is really hard to keep it all in perspective. So for any guy going through that - I get it. The difficult thing is that is 'our' issue. And I'm saddened to see you feeling that burden. You really should not. But I've been there and I know placed the same pressures on a lady I cared about. For me and somewhat surprisingly I've never felt jealous or threatened by recommendations. Maybe its my business background but I saw these as a needed tool for the ladies. I did/do read them and in particular when I'm seeking someone new. I also try and be diligent and post recommendations. I don't feel protective in this at all and in fact want to promote the lady I've met and see her do well. The recommendation I post and the knowledge that it might be helping her - actually makes me feel good. It is somewhat distant from her actual meeting with someone else so it has that disconnect if it was to ever bother me. It is really hard to explain but I love the fact that we are all human and have these feelings and emotions when we're sexual and intimate together. Lets just make sure we can manage them and not transfer our insecurities and guilt to our partners. Cub

My absolutely favorite is long flowing brunette hair, but I still love blondes and redheads too!

In addition to those mentioned by Cato, I visit a guy's profile for the following reasons; - when I read someone's recommendation, I'd like to read a bit more about him to decide if I could rely on his reco. or not - responding to his comments on my posts and to see if we share similar taste and if we could be friends - responding to his message left on my profile page On that matter, once I visited a guy's profile because of his comments on a SP whom I had seen before, he got so excited ( and in my mind, a bit hostile) that he questioned my reasons for visiting his profile page. It turned out that he was a newbie and I think he was on a learning curve. To me, I have no problem whenever someone (male or female) decides to visit my profile page.

Get your point, its about professional courtesy. You are talkin about the business end of this world and I'm trackin. But...... Maybe they are on the fence.....and a little MOJO will bring them to your side?....lol May I offer an alternative opinion? You contacted them because something "tweaked" your interest..go with it... MA..SP its all about walking out at the end of the session and being in a great mood, the most considerate driver in Ottawa (and that says something..). Are you walkin down the street afterward with all the H A T E gone? How do you define this feeling in the business relationship? Think about "WHY" you contact someone................." For some of us (unless I am alone...and nuts?) the offer of FS or MA is secondary to being drawn by the pics/narrative/feel of the post/info. The welcome, the banter, the complete experience. I look at smokin hot pics...read banter that makes me laugh...review her posts that made me go "ohhhh yeeeea" and then turn the page because I was lookin for SP and she is only MA? I"m NOT. I Challenge anyone to book in w/Claire H and complain "but its just MA" (not that there is any question about what she offers..this is a philosophical question...and anyone who has seen her will get what I am sayin)....its not going to happen dudes...or...if you book in w/Cleo and never get past the F before service (again no doubt, she is everything that is "good" about this world) but left so contented/calm/happy....for the record....could not resist nor hold on her charm....and felt I got a deal and dancin in the rain afterward! (OK, walking with a huge smile on my face) Sometimes we get too hug up on the social contract and not enough on the "connection". Yea its business but no one repeats if its a robot dance. It's the summer everyone....lets enjoy it and ourselves. Sorry....its been a really good day. Lets try something tonight...all you ladies (dudes if you are so inclined....not judging here) post your pic and 5 sentences that will freak us out....nothing about FS or MA....and all us hobbyists lets just focus on the pics...the narrative and forget the "repertoire"....then we hook up and for once lets "roll" with it. Half of us (probably more) will end up w/an MA experience by SP's and dance in the rain...(Ok...over the top...how about letting someone change lanes for once...lol) All of you stop looking at me like I'm going to start on F I R E! This could be our CERB Flash MOB...

Passing my G road test today, on the first attempt too. YAY!

I usually just use hotwire to book. always a decent hotel for under 100

Demi Moore - Her husky voice represent sexiness with an edge Marilyn Monroe - Pure sex

I have always loved a good old East Coast Canadian accent. :) So friendly and casual. I love the slang too. Hilarious! East coasters are always so loveable! Never met one I didn't like! :biggrin:

I was going to just read this thread and let it pass in as much as I have no dog in this fight, so to speak. I am not acquainted with the SP or the agency. But I so have an observation. I cannot agree the agency is 100% at fault or has any liability in this situation. It is up to the client to make any parties aware of allergies that are major issues. Follow me through on this. Say you have a death-defying allergy to shellfish (I know such a person.) Say the SP has just dined on lobster before seeing you. You kiss the SP and voila, you have a reaction to the shellfish (the individual I know can react to kissing someone who has previously just eaten shellfish). As you have not shared the information about your shell-fish related condition, how is anyone to know this is going to happen? I know of another individual who is literally allergic to anything that grows in soil - grass, weeds, flowers, trees and so on. This person would react if there was so much as a single plant growing in the room. (This person is on major medication because of this, as you might imagine.) I doubt it would occur to any SP or agency to advise any and all potential clients of the presence of said plant. IMHO, it is incumbent on any individual who has an allergy that could conceivably arise to advise the SP or agency of the situation. Since most people do not have such conditions, the SP or agency, in the absence of any information to the contrary, will not consider this as a possible issue. That's my 2 cents (soon to round down to 0 cents).