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I always find this an interesting concept when it comes up, if you leave no message how can a lady know what time frame is acceptable to call back and what is not? If you do not wish to receive a call back it's always better to be clear in a message stating "I am calling at 'ab' time from the number last four digits 'wxyz' and for reasons of discretion would prefer not to receive a call back, I will however try to reach you again. Thank you." The reason I suggest this is a number of ladies receive complaints on boards for "not returning calls" so often they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. In addition many ladies do not accept same day dates or may not be available on a particular day so by their scheduling practice callbacks during a much longer time frame would be deemed appropriate. Finally as I have always stated if your spouse may answer your phone don't call from it, mitigate your risk and invest in a separate phone or sim chip and if that isn't an option then simply don't call. Most ladies can be reached via email nowadays and it's easy to get a secondary email that your spouse would not have access to. Discretion only goes so far and the responsibility of not being caught cheating lies on you not on your companion. Oh and for the record I only schedule dates via email so this isn't personal just a topic I have seen discussed frequently on the various boards. :)

I only call back if I've missed the call by a few minutes - five or less. If they want a call back otherwise, I'm assuming they will leave me a message asking me to call back. I also have my phone number blocked when calling out, so if I call a gentleman and he doesn't answer, or someone else answers, they wouldn't know who it was that was calling. My most important discretion issues are upon arrival, and I know there have been threads on this. When you come to my building, please don't stand in front of people outside when calling me, and repeat HI CLEO? YES, RING ##, APT ###, because you have just told anyone around who I am and where I am. Please do not bang loudly on my door when you arrive, and don't say HI CLEO, NICE TO MEET YOU! When i open the door. My apartment does not have a soundproof barrier, and any neighbour home will have heard that. And they don't know me as Cleo. Please knock quietly (Or, I usually will be waiting and open the door as you walk up, please don't still insist on banging on the open door). Enter, and wait until I've shut the door before we start saying hello. Once we're in my bedroom we can be as loud as we want, but I'd rather not have my neighbours hear people arriving.

That my friend is the basic definition of a incall

Many of you have probably seen Secret Diary of a Call Girl on tv. It was based upon a blog entitled Belle de Jour: Diary of a London Call Girl and two subsequent books Intimate Adventures of a London Call Girl; and The Further Adventures of a London Call Girl. The author has also published The Sex Myth under her real name Dr. Brooke Magnanti. Dr Magnanti has a PhD in Forensic Science. She worked as an escort while she was finishing her PhD thesis. There have been many discussions on cerb about discretion and whether we as sp's or clients are "out" as well as the potential complications that this business brings to the relationships of sp's and their so's. For those interested in a little weekend reading and a real life story, here's 4 articles that document this for Brooke Magnanti. I know not everyone is going to read all of these, so here's the Coles Notes. - An ex lover was going to "out" Brooke Magnanti as being Belle de Jour so she beat him to the punch by outing herself on her own terms. - Another ex lover (Morris) now claims that she wasn't an escort, in part because "he would never sleep with a prostitute" and that he's suffered damage to his career and reputation since she's identified herself as Belle. He is suing her. - Brooke Magnanti is ironically now required to defend herself in the lawsuit and show that she was in fact an escort. She has documentation to show her income, income tax statements, ads, her diary and his diary etc. She feels that her integrity as a writer has been questioned and that she's being called a liar and a fraud. - An anonymous source has leaked a portion of Morris' diary to the Secret Courtesan blog and the excerpts show that the he knew she was an escort while they were together and wasn't happy about it. - One of these articles also has a short interview with another ex lover who supports Magnanti's claim that she was an escort. - The lawsuit has not been heard yet. A previous lawsuit that the ex lover (Morris) brought against a couple of newspapers was settled in his favour. As Magnanti has pointed out that was due to errors in their reporting, not to any inaccuracy in her story. Pre-emptive Outing http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/nov/15/belle-de-jour-author-blogger-brooke-magnanti?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487 Lawsuit by Ex Lover http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/jul/28/brooke-magnanti-belle-de-jour-sued-ex-boyfriend Magnanti's Response http://sexonomics-uk.blogspot.ca/2013_08_01_archive.html Copy of Ex Lover's Diary Published on The Secret Courtesan http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/diary-of-a-sad-man/

We should let gentlemans decide... is not about who does more is about who does it better. There is lots of indy talent to be discover cheers!

Discretion is keeping information shared between two people between those two people. I protect your privacy and you protect mine. I feel I am paid as much for that as I am my time:)

I love it all! :biggrin: Especially the stuffing. And the dark meat! My mom makes the best turkey dinner. And her gravy is legendary. My favourite part though is the leftovers she gives me to take home so I can make hot turkey & stuffing sandwiches for the next few days. Yummmmy!

Samantha is also in today. Stunning tall slim lovely blonde, who I think usually works nights. Brandy and Jordon are also looking luscious.

I'll start off with, what happened to the OP was horrible and he was lucky that nothing escalated past what he could handle. The details of the encounter should be entered, if they haven't been, in the appropriate section for everyone's benefit. Secondly, there have been many threads in other sections discussing the idea of reviews and why Cerb is a recommendation only board (I'm not going to dig them all up, but you can find them if you want to). The general gist of all of them have been keeping things complimentary makes this board a safe place for the SP's. Reviews can be used against an SP and there is no real way to prove or disprove a damaging review. Once that damaging review is there, warranted or not, it will hurt that SP's business no matter how many good reviews are there. If a SP's business, and image can be tarnished with no recourse, they will ignore the board and it ceases to be the place that Cerb is. As many people have said, there is a section that lists bait and switch, fake pictures and dangerous situations. People should post in these sections for the safety of all. If the OP posted there I don't think there would have been any issue with the post, and hopefully others can escape such situations. The key is in the details, people need to know that others were involved and misleading photo's were used. I believe severally out of date photo's count as bait and switch. This board can be very helpful if you take time to read through the sections, and do some searches on past threads.

Love a waste of time is someone that does it receptively....to one or several ladies..that lies about the reason of canceling and it doesn't add up..Ya know like my dog ate my homework type of thingy To anyone out there they feel they may I have take that turn..Make good to the sp you have done it the most before shopping elsewhere I for myself a big believer of sisterhood and if they got screwed it hurt me I will stick my neck for them

For me is .... 1) If I give you a number to contact me,it is for your use only and not to be shared with anyone. If I initiate a hello text, it is fine to text me back,but don't out of the blue simply text me and ramble on, I could be in another meeting...at work :) 2) If I give my email address to contact me, it is for your use only and not be shared with anyone. 3) What ever might transpire in our get together remains between you and I and not for the lady to share the information unless I was a bad date, a total dickhead through the encounter.If the lady would like an recommendation from me I will ask firstly from her to ensure it is okay to post. Just treat the discretion as the upmost importance between both parties it simply makes ME wanting to come back for MORE, if NOT then I may not have the desire to come back. Lastly, I can honestly say that 99% of the women I have had shared info with such as contact info, are exceptional at it and they fully understand the guidelines to follow for discretion.

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This response really got me thinking! I'm sorry but the expression "there are no dumb question" or "customers are always right" this isn't always true there are always some, I also think that question and response must be worded correctly to not sound insulting or dumb. If your a newbie state it, I'm sure most people will understand and point you the right direction. As for the provider who choses not to respond its their chose and this might even be easier than wasting time just to get turned down anyways. I think each person has their limits and some will just not correspond with each other.

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This is what you said, exact quote Making rules takes some of the fun out the whole experience. I'm sure there are many times when an SP gets frustrated when communicating with clients and would love for them to follow rules but I don't follow any type of procedure when contacting ladies other then trying to be polite and respectful. No, you aren't advocating others to not follow rules, and no one has said you are advocating for others not to follow rules. But you do say rules takes some of the fun out of the whole experience, and you don't follow any type of procedure when trying to contact ladies. Just wondering if you contact a lady not using her preferred method of contact how can that be considered polite and respectful. BTW, from day one in this lifestyle, when I first joined the CERB community, learning about etiquette and rules, well this board was full of useful information, information so I wouldn't need to ask a lady those tiresome questions. Now those booking requirements that are unique to each lady, well there is enough information here on CERB that allowed me to contact and book with a lady my very first encounter without her having to give me a crash course in the rules of seeing an SP RG

Sorry to see this is happening to you. Unfortunately, no, you cannot stop it but the ladies can get around it by screening first/confirming the handle on CERB by sending a PM. If the subject is brought up during or after the encounter, it can also be verified at a later time. It has happened to our friend Cato on here (and another board) and it took a while for the imposter to stop... The "gentleman" was setting up (fake) appointments with the ladies and then pulling no-shows, etc. while using the name Cato.

Yet you refuse to follow rules see your own first post. I bet this is not your first handle here champion just saying. I got that thingelylily up my butt telling me you were somebody else on this board.. That feeling isnt a feature in my ass "I bet I've paid for sex more than most guys here :)."...lol yet You dont Want To follow any rules..you go boy like you really did paid more than anyone on this board...your silly or had to much to drink as big spender don't demonstrate they acted....they do t need to brag o. How much.

Great sex imo involves two people being into one another:) I have met some men though that just want to get off and aren't interested in pleasing anyone other than themselves and that's fine but for those who love it to be mutual, yum!!

It's really crucial for me to believe that my partner is enjoying herself (a lot!), though I understand that orgasms themselves can just sometimes be elusive so that's not my exclusive yardstick for the encounter. I like my own excitement and orgasms (no kidding!), but the truth is I can experience those just about anytime all by myself. One of the unique appeals about an encounter with an SP is spending time with a wonderful, sexy woman and sensing HER excitement. That makes the encounter "us" and not just "me", which is kinda the point.

I'm actually super surprised that no one's posted anything about her in the month that she's been here. BP's been aflame with ads claiming she's a fake, and even on the other *erb there's no clarity on that. In fact, her ad today showed her holding a picture of today's paper, just to silence the critics. That was enough for me to get off the fence and see what she was all about. Pics are real. She's for real, and uber-cute (seriously cute laugh). can't say much about her looks that her pics don't do for her. Booked through text, had no problems there. Incall was sort of out of the way, but discreet. Met at her incall, went through the usual list of acronyms and positions. She plays everything safe (CBJ, etc.) and relatively conservative (no Greek, no COF), so won't be for you if you insist on a more PSE. She does have PS looks, though, for sure! I've developed a fine appreciation for the natural D-cup, and hers are real and fantastic. She was very pretty and accomodating. Only downside was the freakin' construction outside her room, which was getting noisy and distracting. The outside jackhammering was competing with mine. I fought the good fight, but they outlasted me. Saw. Conquered. Came. And, like the South, shall rise again. The Dutchman

I don't like turkey. I know, I know, it is strange. It's just that, to me, it mght as well be chicken. Do you know what I do like? I like the potatoes that you put at the bottom of the pan that cook in the turkey fat...and the bacon you put on top of the turkey that I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to eat.. yummm What about you? What do you love and hate about festive dinners?

So if CERB is strictly a recommendation site and we can't post negative ( but truthful) info on here then where can we post that type of info ? Reason I ask is because I very recently seen a girl who has had adds posted on this as well as other sites. Her pics are at least 10 years old and 40 lbs lighter. Her age is not truthful (not even close) and other info posted is not accurate at all. Also landed with her body guard / enforcer but he got a bit of a shock when he met me lol. This is not a bait and switch scam. Pics are really her but not a recent or truthful portrait of what your about to meet. I am also not sure of the intentions of these two if I hadn't been the size of a man I am and have worked in an industry where I know how to handle myself and deal with that type of situation . Also I am not responding to a 100 inbox messages asking for details. If I can't post it on a site for the betterment of all members then that's SAD .

"It's like looking at all the tantalizing pictures of frozen treats on the side of an ice cream truck and trying to decide on just one." Dear penthouse..

After reading all of the posts, I think that there is more agreement here than disagreement. I think that the only issue people have is the original post implying that this experience is evidence that Cerb is wrong to only allow recommendations. Many have pointed out that experiences like this are absolutely not what that rule had in mind. In my mind, this experience right away qualified as a bait and switch before the "bodyguard" even got involved. There was clearly at least an implied threat after that happened. I'm very relieved to hear that that was as far as it went. The idea of this man barging in like that quite frankly scares the hell out of me. There should definitely be a post in the dangerous encounters section, naming names. That is what that section is for. I myself, check it regularly, especially before I book with someone who is unknown to me. I strongly encourage other members to do the same to hopefully avoid this type of situation. In my mind (and I don't speak for cerb by any means) the "no negative review" rule is simply to avoid the cattiness and hostility that it can bring. There is a huge difference between being threatened, and saying something like "A's oral skills aren't as good as B's" or "she needs to lose a few pounds". (The majority of such comments on sites that allow them likely come from jealous competitors, their associates, or stalker ex-boyfriends anyway.) All they do is create an environment that causes many sp's to avoid the boards. So please, if anyone has had such an encounter as this, post it. (in the proper section). It is for the good of everyone to bring these people to light. And thank you to the op for wanting to share this experience. Again, I'm glad it was a safe conclusion. I can only assume that there are many men out there who were not as fortunate. Safe hobbying everyone, Mikey

My votes goes to All the Nuru Ladies from Angels and Paradise,Jessica Massage and Katrine Cannon!The Simply Best In TOWN!

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I slightly disagree with that. I highly doubt that in your line of business, you end up naked, alone in a room sharing your intimacy, therefore the way questions are worded by a prospective client definitely have a different impact. It's called reading between the lines. When I get the "do I have to provide the outcall?" What I see is not a newbie; what I see is a cheap ass who is trying to negotiate. When I get a silly question (not to be confused with a genuine newbie question), my first thought is: ok what's next? What other basics doesn't he get? Is he now going to ask me for bareback once I am with him alone? There are newbies who take time to inform themselves with the pure basics of the business etiquette, and there is the stupid and lazy dude who is probably of a better match with BP. For those, yes they are better of take their business somewhere else because I am not a match for them. Do I want a lazy dude who doesn't take the time to read and to follow the rules? Absolutely not, therefore I guess it's a win-win.

Yes sorry this has happened to you. But as Gabriella has pointed out, and this is something I do as a matter of course when contacting a lady for an encounter is confirm my board handle via a PM. In the future, maybe send a PM to confirm your board handle when contacting a lady RG

C = Cock a diddle you ;)

I met with Layah yesterday, and wow, she is an amazing person, great personality and sexy. Her ad is no lie, she is an oral specialist. I had a great time with her, great conversation, and an amazing sensual time. She has a gorgeous little body, with a great ass that just deserves to be caressed. I will definately be repeating, she is great.

Well put Empty83, I will also assure the ladies that the same direction will be returned.. To the degree that I feel that even writing a recco diminishes the experience of what we shared. But thats just me..!! My 2c.

Haven't been around much lately..... but glancing at the thread here ..... a joke isn't gonna be taken as a joke by you at the moment WriteOn . I pay too!! But I feel happy and awesome and have met some really amazing ladies !! I don't remotely feel deprecated ........

A welcome addition to this thread.... The one and only Robynxoxo at Angels!! Sweet little spinner and now Nuru oh my, could it get any better??

Excuse my language...lazy fuckers who leave their grocery cart in an empty parking space.

Once again I hate to say but they are several types of waste of time The newbie that is too shy to take the plunge The once upon a time new pooner that was complimented by several ladies how nice become avid poster on the board become egocentric think he is more smart than us ladies ...and we are raising hand to be chosen..Me me me! And the pooner That sadly doesn't have the income that he wish to see them all so leave on promises Personally I may have more patience answering questions and explained the system to the new guy..Although not known for that and prefer to leave to lady that has that " mother caring " attitude. Often if you can't figure out on how follow instruction I don't think you will find my hotel lol Writeon I do not wish to attack you but in your first post you mentioned not following rules ladies...now you say that you have experience...Yet present the situation of the unknown business... The op subject what we consider waste of time... The ones I recognize as waste of time ..I generalize but. It's 85% experienced pooners. Cat sume up very well points I agree VJ

Here's our own Miss Jessica Lee again, with a convincing argument for tan lines :)

Leave out the cussin' part and I would be all over that man!

There are several reputable asian agencies advertising here for Ottawa, most of them are using real pics these days. Descriptions are usually pretty decent except for the usual low age estimates. Check the recos, there are many with glowing recos currently in town. While the ads usually say incall, almost all will do outcall for an additional transportation charge.

Bought a couple new goodies for my new place/early birthday presents for myself! :) Two new TVs! Finally got rid of my old shitty ancient relic tube! Splurged a bit on a sexy 50" plasma for the living room and a nice little 32" LED for the bedroom. So excited! :biggrin:

They are a new sort of SP-run agency, and one of the girls is a personal friend of mine. Some of the girls used to work for agencies under different names than they currently have, but I wouldn't let that deter you. I can say with confidence that these girls know what they're doing :)

I had an uncle that did this for just over 10 years. We were very close and spent many an hour fishing and drinking beer together and talking. He was a bachelor and never married, a very successful business man for years, was on the road a great deal of the time and retired when he was 51. Over 10 ish years post retirement he was a "sugar daddy" and he used that term with me. The two ladies he spent time over those years (one for 6 years one for 4 ) were around 30 years old. It was not all about the sex for him and it was never about naivety, control or money savings. It was about much needed companionship and something that he felt was what suited his lifestyle and how he wanted to live his life. He continued it until his health caused him mega problems with travelling. Let me tell you.....he was a sad man when he couldn't go see his lady friend :( I actually met the first of the two ladies he spent time with and she was a real sweetheart !! They did a lot of fun stuff together and had a true bond. even though YES money was involved. I guess my point is that there are scenarios in life that maybe don't seem right to many or the majority of people, nor practical, but to others in this world it makes them very very happy.

The fact that you gave this lovely lady such high recommendation is wonderful, wonderful also that you took the time . But I take great offence to your last statement and feel it was unnecessary. What anyone chooses to charge is THEIR business and THEIR business alone! For you to make a comment that infers someone isn't worth their rate is uncalled for and a judgement that should only be made by the person charging. As it is she or he who decides their worth, they ask for a fee that allows them to cover their overhead, labour and one that affords them profit on top of costs. You have a right to spend what you like, visit with whom you choose but no right, imo, to criticize some ones rates and value of service! I for one consider myself well reviewed and work very hard to please all my "friends". But like anyone we have good days and bad days, however that still doesn't mean I didn't "deliver", nor does it mean I wasn't worth my asked fee, on the contrary I feel I'm worth ten times that, perhaps even more. After all its my body, my mind, my time, my accommodations I'm sharing and it'll be me that decides their worth!