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I hoped you called the sp to cancel. Not showing up when you've received all the location information, including room number, is extremely scary to many sps.

And what other information should she have provided besides the name of the hotel and room number? The "walking into a hotel etiquette" e-book? His "freaking out", talking to front desk and lying is not her fault. I don't see why she should take any responsability for something she clearly had nothing to do with in the first place.

Bottom line you backed out at the last minute.... if that was me telling the lady what happened is not enough I would email transfer her the payment. why should her business suffer because I panicked and backed out. Just my opinion.

I agree that booking a new appointment would be a good idea to help move things forward but should also include some form of payment for the lost appointment. In regards to the SP having some responsibility for what happened .. i don't see that. What could she have done different? Just my opinion.

Hmmm, not cool to waste her time and then blame her.

Yes it has. I just say "No, thanks, I am good" and keep walking to the room, or down the hall. Any hall. Doesn't matter.

My dad always told me, walk like you know where you are going and you belong there and nobody will stop you! Don't be rude to the hotel staff, because if you WERE an actual guest you would always acknowledge them anyway. So just like the penguins in Madagascar..... "Smile and wave boys! Smile and wave!" P.S. This works "almost" anywhere you go. ie: Visiting friends in hospital outside of visiting hours, if you walk in like you belong AND you look like you know where you are going, they will look at you, and you keep walking and they will leave you alone.

When you go to a hotel walk in like you belong there. It was your getting freaked out that drew attention to you. If asked anything by the front desk just say no thank you. But now as has already been suggested, pay the lady her donation via email money transfer, she didn't do anything wrong. And especially for touring ladies not only did she block off that time for you (and for the ladies time equals money) she has the additional expenses of hotel, flight, meals, and incidentals. The only reason you didn't have your date was because you panicked. You should at least make it right RG

Sorry if you feel that you are being picked on or blamed.... you outlined a scenario in your post and ask for comments that's what we are doing. Unfortunately a few thing came together to have an appointment fall apart... some suggestions have been made about how you could have handled it differently.... all good conversations for you and the rest of us in case we fine ourselves in a similar situation. I don't think anyone here is suggesting that you are somehow a bad guy...you were open and honest with the SP the rest of this is just healthy discussion and people giving their opinion on what they would do. If you and the SP are square... this is all academic and certainly not personal. Here's hoping that your next booking goes way more smoothly because there is nothing worse than missing some time with a great lady from CERB. Just my opinion.

From a companion's perspective, like many others will say, a tip is never expected but always appreciated. Yes, we do have a lot of expenses and spend a lot of time managing our business outside of appointment times but this is where "pricing yourself" accordingly comes in. I would hate it if a gentleman came to see me and felt like he HAD to give me a tip or a gift to make me feel appreciated. His presence and company are plenty, especially when he is a repeat patron. It's the best compliment a lady can receive :)

I'm with you. I just normally politely thank the person at the front desk, smile and calmly say "No thank you" and just either head to the elevator or stairs. Looking nervous or jittery will always send up alarm bells to the staff. As we say in the UK, "Keep calm and carry on!". :D

Without casting blame on anyone, the smaller the hotel, the more likely you will be questioned as to where you are going. For example a small boutique hotel with 10-20 rooms would not be a good place to host out of as the staff would pretty much recognize everyone who's staying there. Yes, we are allowed visitors, but since we are not likely to want to give the client our real name, that wouldn't work either. And even if we did, multiple guests a day might raise some red flags for management. Discretion is key. Always best to stay in a larger hotel where it's more common that people are coming and going all the time. Just saying...

From an MA's perspective; I never ever expect tip, although when it is received it is greatly appreciated... Before meeting each other, a donation price is discussed, and that's all I expect... I enjoy spending my time with each and everyone of my clients, and the fact that they always put such a big smile on my face and give me reasons to laugh; is tip enough for me :) I would never want any one of my clients to feel that they had to add a tip to my donation just to show their appreciation; Im very good at reading body language, and your body is what shows me your appreciation....not your tip

Of course I tip, well tip and gift. The amount, that's private, between the ladies and me. But it's more than five dollars to get a Timmies LOL When I go to a restaurant (even take-out), get a haircut, whatever, I tip. What the ladies provide...the companionship, escape, friendships, have a value far exceeding the donation asked, I hope what I give shows my appreciation. So the answer is yes, I tip and gift RG

The lady asking "How can I help you?" was merely a customer service question. That's all It wasn't the opening line in a police interrogation. Had you just said "I'm good" and walked on like you belonged there, this wouldn't have happened Do you know how many people walk by that front desk each and every day. Giving a false name and wrong room number brought attention to you, how that can even be considered remotely the lady's fault escapes me There was another thread just on following instructions, I'll copy/paste it here. Worth a read http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=78942&highlight=instructions As for rebooking with the lady, you indicated she tours, so it may be awhile before she comes back to Winnipeg, and she may want a cancellation fee before she considers booking another encounter RG

Guys please remember discretion! Outing whether a lady's incall is a hotel/motel or residence or whatever is a nono and only for her to do. Not sure either if I'd worry to much whether a girl was 22-24-26 as nothing changes physically in two years, especially at that age, lol. She's liked, cute and her pics are accurate, right? So that's what is important:) just my opinion though:)

Exactly! I do not judge it, but I just prefer not to accept these types of booking as I know how I will feel throughout my session. And if I am not comfortable being there, no amount of money will make that feeling go away.

While I'm aware we are paid to do our job, one of the greatest things of this profession is to be able to work within our comfort levels so yes, we do get paid to do 'this' but each of us has do's & don'ts and is valid that for some visiting a gentleman at the place he shares with his SO a don't same way for some fetishes or other things are in their dont's list.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/chantal-bernier-says-ottawa-snooping-on-social-media-1.2635998

Only the OP inquired in the Escort & FS Providers section so he may be expecting services that an MA in Spa doesn't or is not supposed to offer. Just to clarify as he may misunderstand and think he can get full service.

I didn't initially. Or I'd round to the next $20, but I don't consider that a tip. More recently, I've seen the same person repeatedly. I've started to tip her $30-$50. I've noticed that she spends a lot of time getting things ready, the tip is more so a thanks for that extra effort.

Nope and I've never felt compelled to so. We agree on fair value (rate) for service rendered and that should cover it. The tip might be me repeating. Peace MG

I never understood why Men get so freeked out? Not like your making a huge drug deal or something crazy like that. I mean you are allowed to visit who ever you like! None of their business. Who cares your going to room 114? Your allowed to have friends, and so is she..lol I lost an apts few times for just this same reason and I was rather annoyed that he just couldn't say "no thanks, have good evening" As someone else has said, walk in like your just visiting a friend....which you are! Don't look around over your shoulder, fidget etc...

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Since I'm very selective in who I meet, my body always has a great time & the Ladies know it. So, I have to give my Ladies an extra donation. Plus, it makes them feel good & everybody can always use some extra in their wallet. I love to surprise them for being themselves & for being sooo sweet & delicious with me. I feel they desire it, especially if some (or a lot) of guys, either don't tip or they hassle over the donation. More importantly (IMHO), some Ladies spend time so that us guys will have such a great time with them. Here are some things they do & it all cost them: mani/pedi-cures, hair, makeup, your favorite sexy clothes, extra clothes to wear in public, drinks, music, candles, lotion, condoms, remembering who you are & what you like & don't like, driving, room reservations, setting up the ambiance, removing & cleaning it all up, waiting, cancellations, hem & hawing in emails/phone/chat conversations, ass-holes, and the list goes on and on. They do so much to make us happy, a big or small tip may really make their day. So why not give them something extra. It's not going to break your bank account. Sorry for my rant. Do you tip? If so, how much, how often, why or why not?

Being an unattractive, unskilled, hermit, I should probably start tipping every time. :icon_confused: I tend to only tip / gift for special occasions, birthdays (hers or mine), Christmas, other holidays, social events, dinner dates, etc. .... On a side note: For a cash tip is that 15% or 20%? Or is it something entirely different?

If that person at the store went above and beyond the call, yup, he/she would get a tip too. Unfortunately I haven't found anyone at a shoe store going that above and beyond Anyways... RG

I will tip, cash is king, but repeating with someone is the best kind of tip you can give her. I'm also known to shop and buy VS lingerie, panties and bra, there is nothing like watching a gorgeous lady face filled with excitement trying on the VS lingerie, of course looking at her beautiful body while she changes in front of you. ;) Hmmmm PistolPete to PeteLovesPanties ? Lol :)

yeah lol, two years isn't so bad. the only time you should worry is if they go from 25 one day to 35 the next

Better yet with photos!

Both parties should take some blame here. The sp for not giving better info on how to meet her. You should call again and go see her, that would make it right for both sides.

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Not meaning to be negative but I find a lot of women very negative for whatever reason , Perhaps they have been physically , emotionally or sexually abused . I know this must be hard but please , please get therapy , try to get past it, stop blaming this for your failures. Many of us have been abused but we have not spent 20 or more years in wasted therapy. Perhaps its time to stand up and take responsibility, if you need therapy take it . However don't spent the rest of your life condemning your mother or father . Its our choice , so lets be well ! These pictures are quotes are cute but in the real world what do they really mean? Sorry to offend but pretty pictures and provocative sayings are not much . What backs these up and exactly who is saying then? Gee , I can say this or that , hmm, I'm sure perhaps I am missing something big . Please all you great thinkers see this simple good person straight!! Sorry that post was a lot but I know someone that has spent her life blaming others for her downfalls , lets all forgive and forget!

I did phone her after. I recommended that she tell people the name of the gentlemen the room is under, otherwise she probably wasn't going to be able to see anyone that day!

my neices father was not in her life until.she turned 16 . i had taken it upon myself to try and fill that role . she was always a very affectionate little girl , lots of hugs and kisses , always wanted to sit right next to the person she was with . of course when she was 12 all that changed , wanted to be left alone , snarky replies to questions . it was once said " a hug is worth a thousand words " , so after reading this and knowing i still wanted her to know i stilled cared but not invade her space , i just started lightly squeezing her head with one hand and would say smooch . it would get a smile out of her, a chuckle under her breath . and it made me feel pretty good as well . well after a couple years and she was developing problems that unfortunately alot of teenage girls develope , she came to me . we were able to get her help , including a hospital stay . after regular visits with a shrink she is now a thriving 19 year old catching up on her schooling . she is also very much back to being a happy go lucky young lady . dont know if this helps at all , but i must admit for me , it felt good to put it out there .

During my 20 years (or so) in this business I've seen a serious increase in vulgarity and a major decrease in sensitivity both in advertising and support and unity (amongst the ladies). When advertising was in newspapers and phone books there were guidelines to what could and could not be posted, I'd assume it's because the companies had a say over the end result because they had an image to uphold. ANY kind of nudity was a NO-NO, describing ANY kind of sexual services (especially for money) was a NO-NO. A girl had to get very creative to catch the eye of a passing gent. Then something happened - maybe it was the internet, maybe it was looser social morals, maybe it was a higher tolerance for different strokes - but when that something happened slowly, but surely, harsh and blunt was the word of the day, and considering the majority of people this business attracts do not have a higher than high school education blunt and in-your-face will catch your attention, but does not take much imagination. Also to mention, competition always adds to the mix. The services being offered openly were getting riskier ... I remember when I worked with a group of girls "what you do in the room stays in the room" - the key to everything was discretion. And so girls had to make a very big decision are they going to go along with what "she is doing because he says well she does it" and take a chance of not making that money or is she going to have to lower her standards to keep with the changes? I am a firm believer of "to each their own" and "live and let live" and all those other little diddies that are the tune of the day, but let's keep it real too. When money and sex are involved in business people will get vulgar in order to get over on others and vulgar is as vulgar does.

It is your right to decide to see or not a lady based on that however it doesn't necessarily mean she is judgmental but something (whether is this or a different situation) is against her values/morals and as such doesn't feel comfortable doing that particular thing but that doesn't mean she is judging you, also giving one's opinion on something does not mean judging the situation or labeling it as wrong or right, is only sharing views and/or thoughts about it. I think in this situation as long as the lady is acknowledged beforehand that is the home the client shares with his SO then she can decide to accept or decline the invitation and even if she explains her reasons, as I said there's no reason to think she is being judgmental, only not comfortable doing so ... Of course this is my opinion only.

My father was a super hoarder, he had tools from the 1800's full of rust and totally useless. He had boxes and boxes of new presents never used and always forgot what he owned. Sometimes for fun we would give him something in a box from a few years previous. He never knew the difference. Old clothing, blankets home spun, butter churns, his own baby crib and playpen, farm equipment, washers, dryers, toasters and all parts of anything that could be reused. Storage? No way, we had barns and many acres to hold his inventory. it had to be handy in case it was needed. My father was also able to fix just about anything from a car to a broken Barbie Doll. People came from miles away to get their broken TV's radios , and waffle irons fixed. So, we had everyone else's junk piled high as well, he had a regular job and could never keep up. Upon his death my mother had a huge yard sale and what she did not sell she had a truck come and take it all away. I took for myself a set of sleigh bells and still have them. I wanted to have one thing that was really important to him. All his things were so important to him yet wiped out within a week. Something for all hoarders to think about.

I do entertain SP's in my home but I am single so my comment probably does not count. But I will give it any way. I do not think I could do something like that. It is totally disrespectful to the SO. Not to mention, you are just asking to get caught. That sounds like one big world of hurt. IMHO....

I think a lot of the difficulty some people have with paring down is that each item when looked at by itself seems to have value. Either it could be useful or has some sentimental attachment. If you're keeping something because someday it may be useful, give yourself permission to get rid of it knowing you may one day end up needing the item. You can get rid of 100 things that way and will probably find you only ever end up having to retrieve 1 of them. As for sentimental items, I think the trick is to keep a selection of items that can symbolize everything. Do you have 100 things that all belonged to a relative and are therefore sentimental? Pick 3 of them that can represent them all. If it is just a matter of general clutter, pick a couple boxes and make the rule that you can keep whatever you are able to fit into them and everything else has to go. You'll quickly discover which items are most important to you!

I saw my eye doctor Monday afternoon. Turns out I do not need new glasses. Just a simple adjustment to my current glasses is all I needed.

A man who knows how to pay special attention to my feet or belly will have me eating out of his hand. But that said, I must admit that I'm often disappointed by those who approach me and announce that they have a foot fetish. When they do follow through (which is rare), they usually expect to get off super cheap (if not free). They often start off with a demand for a pic of my feet. Unfortunately, it rarely works out with guys who tell me they have a foot fetish, but that's certainly not because I'm not responsive to sensual attention to my feet!

hurting someone can be as easy as throwing a stone in the sea . but do you have any idea how deep that stone can go ? the tongue is a small thing , but what enormous damage it can do . sometimes the easiest way to solve a problem , is to stop participating in the problem .

I will give my opinion on this topic. I am one of the ladies who prefer not use explicit language in my advertising and in my posts because is not in my personality so I would be using what some like to read to attract readers and/or potential guests who would come see someone I'm not however I have always respected ladies who have a different approach than mine. There has been in the past one or two ads that I thought were a bit too explicit, or what you call vulgar and I admit to have made in my mind an idea of what the posters were like and with time through posts they started making that weren't ads, I realized that wording in ads didn't define the person they are, and definitely does not make them unclassy, there's also ladies who never use explicit language in their ads and even use the word classy in them and in my opinion (based on things I saw) they are not. Class is not in what you wear or the words one use in an ad or post but in how you (the real you) carry yourself so I don't think an ad defines if a lady is or isn't classy. As for the way some men refer to ladies here, I agree with you than some should be more respectful but is the same as with ladies, I have had a not so great almost encounter with a member here who in many of his threads comment how he is a gentleman and with me he didn't act like one which is why I think that words are just that and don't make us who we are. There was also a time with one of the most respected members here (don't think he is active anymore) was in the general chat room giving very intimate details of his time with a lady and using language that I wouldn't like to be used when talking about me so I asked to please stop referring to her like that and to take his conversation to a private chat, he told me that this is an adult forum and that I needed to grow up so I guess what I'm trying to say is that is not about the words used but the respect or lack of it behind them. Hope I am making sense :)

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I don't automatically tip but have on a few occasions I have...i kinda feel that if there is a requirement to tip than just make it a part of the cost structure. Now I am way more likely to bring a lady a gift especially if it us someone I have seen before. I certainly don't think I am cheap lol Just my opinion

Ironically, as I'm sorting through stuff to be put up for sale, stuff to be freecycled, stuff to go to the community yard sale for charity, and stuff to go to the dump this week, I'm still frantically searching for the original video files for some of my favourite videos in my members' area. I'd converted them to swf years ago, when I was assured that flash was the way of the future, and now I can't for the life of me get them to convert back into anything decent. And I cannot find those original files. Only my favourites. Of course. Of course!

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What I am about to tell you now is past history. Many, many years ago. It is not something I condone or encourage other ladies to do. I'm just reflecting back on what happened to me and I'm not implying anyone should or would do this in today's world. (That's my disclaimer) lol My CERB name derived from my childhood. I was attracted to a 25 y.o. substitute teacher when I was 12 years old. All my friends were aware of the fact and used to tease me about it. Even the teacher got wind of it and she used to make it worse... by flirting with me. She would do some minor things like brush her fingers up my neck as she walked by. She would wink or throw me a kiss. At 12, I was already a full grown man over six feet so I guess it didn't look that bad to her. Today, she would be arrested. Anyway, my friends and I were swimming in our underwear down at the river after school... like we did most days in the summer. This Friday was going to change my life. As we laughed and joked while holding onto the dock, we saw the teacher walking out to where we were at the end of the dock. She stopped at the end of the dock, right over me. I could see right up her skirt and she wasn't wearing any panties. All my friends pulled themselves up on the dock and grabbed their clothes while on the run and darted into the bush in embarrassment. I couldn't take my eyes off that sweet looking pussy but I managed to pull myself out on the doc and stood in front of her. I guess my boner was pretty obvious through my wet undies. As she looked down at the bulge, she reached out with both hands and started to rub me there. My first massage. I don't know if it was manly instinct or pure curiosity but I found myself reaching up and unbuttoning her blouse which was already undone pretty far down. I didn't know it at the time, that most women wear bras, but this little darling had none on. :-) As I got the blouse fully open, I had a piece of it in each hand. I slowly pulled her toward me and placed my face smack in dead center of her luscious boobs. I can still remember how sweet she smelled and felt the warmth of each boob on my cheek. I don't think the motor boat was invented yet. lol Again, I don't know if it was instinct or curiosity that guided me but I liked where this was going. I started to lick my way up her cleavage and down again. Then followed the curves of each breast with my tongue. Pausing to lick, suck, and nibble on each erect nipple. Her breathing was getting heavier and my boner was getting bigger. I slid her blouse down her arms and let it fall to the dock. While my hands were already down there, I reached behind her and unbuttoned her skirt. I learned that from watching my Mom button up my sister before going to school. Her skirt fell to the floor and she was completely naked now. She let me ogle her for a while and take in all the beauty. Then she reached for my undies and pulled them off. She knelt down as she slid them past my ankles. I saw her starting to look up and I was about to help her up but her face went right for my cock and she swallowed the whole thing in her mouth. I can remember feeling sooo damn good. I shivered and quivered and thought I would fall over but it was very short lived as I blew my load in her mouth. Couldn't have been more than 45 seconds. hehe Then she swallowed and smiled. I had just realized at the moment, we still didn't say anything yet. It was all gestures and hand signals. :-) She didn't stand up at all. She just laid down on the dock and started rubbing and playing with her breasts while she spread her legs wider. I stood there dumfounded but enjoying the view. She removed one hand and gave me the come hither finger so I started to kneel down. She directed my face as I lowered myself and I found my mouth was right on her pussy. Not knowing the procedure, I started to kiss it like I kissed my Mom on the cheek when I went to school. She touched my forehead and made me look up at her face, She was making a slow licking motion with her tongue and I got the signal. Then she pushed my head back down and I started to do what she suggested. The taste was very different from anything I had ever tasted and at first, I wasn't even sure I would like it. I don't know where it came from but within seconds I said to myself, hell yes. I love this mmmm My tongue was darting in and out of her wet pussy. I was sucking on her clit and tickling it with my tongue. I was thrashing my tongue over her butt hole and even tried to get it in. I played with her boobs and raked my nails over her body. I nibbled on the inside of her thighs. She was moaning loudly and moving her body all around. I remembered saying to myself, I've mastered this shit. All of a sudden she screamed out, "Oh My God... Yesssss" and a few other unpronounceable gibberish words. The only words spoken that day. Then the gush came. She squirted all over my face. I was a little shocked at first because I thought she pissed on me. lol I repeated this procedure and she came several more times. When she had enough she pushed my head away, sat up, and directed me to lay down on the dock. Once there she began to suck on my dick again. It was already fully recovered from the first blow job so I was rock hard in seconds. She straddled me and began to feed my dick into her pussy. I remember the warm, wet, tight feeling as I slid inside. She began to bounce up and down and she grabbed my hands and placed them on her boobs. I had a great time doing my own version of massage on those sweet melons. Then I placed my hands on her ass and squeezed, then slapped them silly. She appeared to like that and I could feel her juices running down my balls as she continued to come. She took hold of my hands with hers and held them down on the dock. She started kissing me very passionately. As our tongues intertwined, our rythem became faster as I thrust up when she slammed down. We were both breathing hard and panting. We came together like a volcano blowing up into the clouds. She kissed me again, wiped the lipstick from my mouth, and stood up and grabbed her blouse and skirt off the dock. She walked off naked as a j-bird and I never saw her again. As I stood there contemplating the loss of my virginity and what the hell just happened, I knew I wouldn't have wanted to lose it any other way. It was an event I would never experience again. and damn that was awesome. :-P The bushes started rustling and I watched my friends step out. Apparently they never left and watched the entire screwfest. One of them said, damn. That was the best porn I've ever seen. Another said, I guess you won't be lonely any more you perv. They never knew I would never see her again as they skipped off home he's not a lonely perv any more, he's not a lonely perv any more. The story spread quickly around our little town, 2 room school. LonelyPerv stuck with me for years... I was later called CreamPuff but that's another story. ;-)