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I have had the pleasure of the company of several TS providers. I can say with assurance that each and every one was feminine inside and out. Yes, there are some physical differences and yes those differences vary from person to person. I also find women attractive. In fact, I consider myself pan-sexual with a strong preference for women. If the OP's intention is to pursue a strictly sexual relationship, then by (bi) all means indulge. We live in incredible times. Twenty or thirty years ago, it would have been difficult or impossible to live out a TS fantasy. Today, opportunities abound and with sites like Cerb, research is possible. If the intent is to follow a personal and emotional relationship, then do so with your eyes wide open. As previous posters have said, TS/TG face numerous daily challenges ranging from prejudice to health issues. It is important to both parties if you enter into an emotional relationship, you do so with honest intent. TS/TG members of our society deserve no less respect and care as any other member.

Eh, depends on who you ask. Some people use transgender and transsexual interchangably. Others see a conceptual difference, though may not all agree on that difference. In my experience, there's often a generational gap in how the language gets used, with older trans people identifying as transsexual and younger trans people identifying more as transgender, regardless of surgical status. People who are not interested in surgery or hormones or who identify outside the gender binary (something other than a man or a woman) often prefer transgender over transsexual. Language is a complicated and nuanced topic that's always under debate and shifting within trans communities. I would always say, don't make any assumptions about a person's body or surgeries based on how their identify, and always respect a person's self identity. Best is to ask what pronouns are appropriate to use with a person, but as a general rule, you should never call a trans woman "he" or "it", and if you're not able to ask, "she" is probably the most respectful assumption to make. This depends on so many different factors, such as your perceptiveness, what type of surgery she's had, how her healing process went, what you might believe is the normal range of variation for vulvas... Surgical techniques for constructing a vagina and vulva are very, very good these days. Often you would never be able to tell that there had been any surgery. You really can't know, unless the people you've been with have told you. A lot of people have an idea in their head of what a trans person looks like, but like with cis people, trans people run the gamut from very feminine to very masculine, and aligning very closely or not at all with mainstream standards of beauty. I know trans women who look like magazine models and I know cis women who naturally grow beards. We get a lot of narrow messages about what makes a person a woman or a man, but in reality, we are all so diverse that there is no one set of defining features that can externally define a person. (Cis just means not trans. So if when you were born they said, "It's a boy!" and you now identify as a man, you're cis. Same deal for baby girls who are now women. It's more respectful to say cis than natural born or real. :))

Since you mention pursuing a relationship, it sounds like you are interested in maybe dating this woman, and that she's not a sex worker (or at least you're not meeting her as a sex worker, and maybe you don't know what she does for a living)? So, my comments are based on that assumption - my apologies if it's incorrect, though this should be mostly relevant either way. First, I think it's really important to remember that trans women are women. They may have different bits than you're used to on women, but that doesn't make them any less real women. Like having sex with cis women (cis means not trans), sex with trans women is going to be a unique encounter each time - sex is a dynamic that's created by two people together. It's okay to feel unsure - the important thing is to communicate a lot. Ask her how she likes to be touched and what language she likes when talking about her body. Some trans people have a lot of dysphoria that can be triggered by certain words or being touched in certain ways, so just use your words. If she has a penis, it may or may not get hard. A lot of trans women who have been on estrogen for a while don't get erections any more, without the aid of Viagra or other meds. She also may or may not ejaculate still. She may be a top or a bottom or versatile - definitely something to talk about. Roles may not be quite as easy to assume as they would be with a cis woman. A lot of straight sex between two cis people often defaults to penis in vagina sex without a lot of discussion. You should expect to talk a little bit more about what kinds of sex you two will have, and maybe you'll need to have a broader idea of what counts as sex, beyond putting your cock in a hole (or maybe you won't.) I think it's also really important to think about the experiences trans women have. Like all women, there's a real risk of violence at the hands of men, but in addition to male violence against women, they also have to content with transphobic violence. Recognize that she's taking a big risk with her safety by meeting a stranger off the internet, honour any safety measures she decides to take and be extremely respectful of her boundaries. Trans women are murdered all the time simply because people are uncomfortable with their attraction to them or because people can't see them as human beings. Call her by the name she gives you and use the pronouns she uses for herself (most likely she & her). I'd recommend reading this guide and checking out some other resources, so that when you meet, you can just focus on being your best self: http://www.autostraddle.com/getting-with-girls-like-us-a-radical-guide-to-dating-trans-women-for-cis-women-160269/ Be awesome, be kind and be okay with not knowing everything (but be willing to listen and learn!) Absolutely. Trans women are women, and no matter what she has between her legs now, or in the future, doesn't change that. Dating or having sex with a trans person doesn't change your sexual orientation in any way - if you're a straight guy who's attracted to women, and you find a trans woman hot, well hey, you just met another woman that you find attractive. :)

Please join me in bidding Carrie Moon farewell as she is leaving Ottawa this week to move to the Niagara region. Carrie was one of the first escorts I met back in 2002 when I decided to get back into the business as an indy. She has been a source of inspiration and generosity. She has often gone beyond the call of duty to help me and other ladies in this industry. I will miss her. (Thank goodness for technology). Note: Some people were asking me if Carrie is retiring. Just to be perfectly clear - NO Carrie is NOT retiring, simply moving!

Hi everyone, I see many ladies here who post their traveling dates weeks, even a month to a month and a half in advance....and sometimes, only few days in advance. Personally, I like to advertise within 2 weeks or 1 week prior to my arrival. I'd like to inquire for myself and other ladies, gentlemen, how much advance notice you need when someone visits your city ? Would you prefer to be notified way in advance (to mark up your calendar and be prepared) or a short notice is enough ? Is there an ideal time for you ? Please do let me know. Thanks in advance! :) Eva

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You'll just have to go fishing instead of golfing Pete !!! This would be a good catch ? ;)

Today's weather in Ottawa.....f-ing rain!!!!!

you know what's super awesome? there is finally a subsection for "fun" threads that are completely not industry related ... I get that some of you love them but they were really clogging up the discussion section and some of us only come here to the "general discussions" area for discussions (go figure lol) ... and they were becoming increasingly difficult to find!! Thanks to whoever thought of that!! :D

I did :icon_razz: The only thing I can conclude from the single, much smaller data-point was given as a comparison is that the author wants the reader to believe the response to this one was very large. This may or may not bear any relation to where it actually stands in comparison to consultations in general... which was why I asked.

Can we please stop with the insults and assumptions? As fortunateone pointed out, stating "420 friendly" does not necessarily mean that the provider herself partakes. Personally, I find it inappropriate that one provider is commenting on another provider's ad. Whether you agree with this woman's choice or not, publicly deriding another worker on a public forum is in bad taste and comes across as trying to cut out competition. Focus on yourself, and stop with the judgmental comments.

Hello everyone, I am new to the site, but not to the industry. I live in the US and have been an avid traveler around the States. I'm now starting to expand my wings outside of the country; I was last week in Saskatchewan. I find this board to be very helpful and wish we have something like it at home; where positive reinforcement and kindness are emphasized. I am happy to be here and I hope to learn more. Thank you!

Hey ladies what is a major turn off when someone is looking to book a time with you ? One thing I absolutely hate is when someone texts me and says....What's up? Like really lol that will not grab my attention First impressions mean everything and I prefer a gentlemen being respectful and courteous when inquiring about my ......... For an example; Hello how are you or Hi I am .... and I am interested in knowing more about you and your ........!......so much better

This grey wet weather is getting to me and I needed a laugh, post your funny picture to give us all a good laugh, come on:) there are lots of them out there, :) Sent this one out to some of the guys as one of my new titty pics, lol, thought that was funny:)

I know what you mean, I was kinda in a friends with benefits relationship not long ago, and I have no clue what happened, but we no longer contact each other. ive been told many times that im a nice guy, and I try to be, and this is the thanks I get???

Like e-cards, but with more sass. Check it out: http://snarkecards.com Here are some of my favs. Feel free to post yours.

Give Felina a shout she likes that:butt:

My great grandmother's life seemed to embarrass my grandmother to the point that we don't know much about it. I'd be more interested to find out more about what she went thru: left husband and family, moved to Canada. returned to pick up her youngest, my grandmother, left the rest with the Dad. Those kids and their kids barely knew who she was, and that includes my grandmother. Discrepancy over the marriage certificate date and the birth certificate of her youngest children (as in they thought they were 2 years younger than they really were lol), and then what happened to that guy, their Dad? And who was the last husband, not their Dad, and where did he go?

That sound like it could be Fibromyalgia. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Fibromyalgia/Pages/Symptoms.aspx I know what you mean about waking up to a migraine. I have been having them for a few decades now. The ones that start later in the day are a little easier to deal with and treat. than the one you wake up with. Ugh... I think I speak for most of us when I say, Your online family is here for you when you need us, RG.

Bracing myself for the onset of major things that suck Began last weekend with Mother's Day, visiting a mother and brother (and sister in law) who are now just mother and brother (and sister in law) in name only And while it's a long weekend, Sunday is the one year anniversary of Dad's last birthday...he passed away shortly thereafter Right now I really feel sort of family less RG :-(

While I generally agree and I do post reviews... not all SP'S like the whole review process so i always ask 1st....i have been surprised at the number who have not had an interest. Just my opinion.

Well, I have a Habs tshirt....perhaps some selfies are imminent!

Let's work backwards with what you wrote. You don't want to come across as completely ignorant. Treat her with the grace and respect you would any other woman and you're good there. Is the relationship worth pursuing? Like you said, you won't know for sure until you meet her so let's put that question on par with your chances when you meet anyone new to you. You're straight and attracted to women. Well, to put it delicately, work with what you know. And you already know what to do with a lot of her. And a lot of the experience will be just like being with another woman. Okay, enough with dancing around the elephant in the discussion. Yup, she comes with a difference (no pun intended). You can, within reason, make of that difference what you will. You may go into the evening thinking you won't really be up for dealing too much with that. As things progress, things will get hard. I mean, you might find it hard not to play there a little bit. Or a lotta bit. In my experience no woman is going to force you out of your comfort level. And in my experience, I've found the boundaries of my comfort level in this situation greatly expand as the evening progresses. All of which is a long way of saying this. You have an interest in this as demonstrated by you posing the question. Explore that interest. You might find that you actually don't have an interest worth pursuing. You might have an excellent mind blowing experience that you will thank yourself for in the morning. But most of all, you will have the satisfaction of knowing you gave it a try. There are no points awarded for that which you meant to do but never did. Good luck and enjoy!

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I do agree 100 percent with this post. Even though this is not always the case, it seems to be the majority. In these situations I often receive the same response that you have, or I get "well I will only be 10 miniutes" after clearly quoting my donation rates. (10 min session was not one I offered?) It's like going to a store to buy $100 pair of jeans. then telling the store clerk that you only want to pay $50 because you only plan on wearing them once.

Man.....it is a great ride.....and i mean that! I have met a few in my days and Lucy Bisset is one if the top ladies in the business. Go for it......you only live once Posted via Mobile Device

True, true and we all should :) but it happens so much that it's hard not to generalize and so much that I expect to hear it as soon as I hear a French accent, even though I know that a French accent doesn't necessarily mean they are from Quebec. It's a shame, but again, when something happens more often than not it becomes an expectation and I suppose a judgement:(

Here I was thinking that all the sexy CERB ladies were accepting my booking requests because of my dazzling wit, charm and personality to say nothing of my rugged handsome "Buddha like" looks but it turns out it's just because I am OLD..... lol.... sorry just could not help myself

"Drop the Pistol, Pete." Things were royally fun until a few moments ago. It started over something as silly as a joke over a white man and an old dog. In today's post Jabba world, after the evil Solo and his goons killed the beloved potato like creature, everyone was tense. "Put the pistol down and I'll give you a back rub man!" shouted some guy in the crowd. Cristy's curved her Excaliber over Pete. "I'll have you know that my sword is spongy and full of short cake!" Pete would've listened if he only knew that short cake was like regular cake, except it had the liquor that he hated as an ingredient. As Lady luck would have it, a cat ran in, and it was cute as a button. Both of them loved cats. All was forgotten. "Kiss, kiss, kiss!", yelled out someone watching the whole thing "Oh really mature Angela" - replied Phaedrus sarcastically.

I just absolutely hate disrespect and there is a lot of that in this Just because one person may work.a certain way doesn't mean someone else will work the same way What may be right for you may not be right and work for.someone else We all do what we feel is comfortable for us and should never be made to feel less because of what someone else may want or feel I.enjoy what I do and absolutely love.spending time with kind respectful gentlemen

Well don't know about hourly rates but some hotels near airports sometimes offer daily rates I would just check some of the hotels near the airport And just me but I would be leery of any hotel offering a hourly rate...who knows how clean it really is RG

not the one that kingof6 saw lol, here's the link to her ad http://halifax.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100-real-upscale-classy-girl-in-town-bunettes-do-it-better-1902-210-4997-19/1857130

Would help if you let us know where u saw the ad

what are turns offs for me? 1. sending 50 text messages asking the same dumb questions (to which the answers were, and always have been, in my website, and the reason I no longer accept text messages) 2. consistently cancelling the appointment without any notice at all (once someone has done this 3 times, I no longer book) 3. (agreeing with some of the other ladies here) aggressive gentlemen (and I use that phrase loosely here) that think I owe them something for them allowing themselves to contact me in the first place, but having to disappoint them because they didn't read my availability 4. no-shows, boy, aren't those fun! especially when I have taken the time to not do something for myself and fit the person into my personal schedule. 5. those that show up drunk/high/both! Needless to say the date doesn't continue 6. hygiene - need I say more here! 7. anyone that does not respect the boundaries that I set. For instance, I do not and never have provided greek services, its prevalent in my website. So when someone is disappointed in me, once they are in the date with me, when they realize that I'm not kidding about not providing that service, it makes me very uncomfortable. Don't ever assume that a service will be provided just because you request it, chances are that if an sp does not state its a service she provides, then it doesn't happen. 8. not having your donation ready in the manner requested (especially if you have arrived with not enough, or only enough to cover what YOU think would be considered 'right' for 1/2 hour(which I do not arrange) or thinking that a gift you bring covers you for an extra hour). 9. sending messages that just say, 'hi', or really bad messages like, 'hey babe, you available to party/fuck'. First they don't tell me anything about you, secondly they don't tell me what you are looking for and when, thirdly I rarely respond to messages such as these. 10. asking for a reduction! I find this completely unacceptable and rude. Rates are set and not up for negotiating. Just a little of what turns me off. But I have to say, of the gentlemen of Cerb that I have had the privilege of entertaining, I have had a wonderful time with and had no problems with.

lol, me too. I don't know how many times i've just said, oh, sorry, not available the minute i hear that kind of thing. Also they say it in what i call 'sexy voice', so it really grates on the nerves. This is not a dating site, I snap, from time to time, you don't have to sexy voice me to impress me. it creeps me out, and makes me question why they are calling in the first place lol. I'd advise not using sexy voice and not calling any sp sweetie, hun, babe, and/or babeeee

Oh, I know what you mean lol I even created an ad for it some time ago: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123724 I look at it on the bright side though: it makes my screening much easier/faster that way and I don't hesitate to mark the email as spam and then gladly send it to the trash folder :) u know sweet baby darlin'... coz im a buzy gurl i dont w8ste my time, evar ;) lol

Hey everyone! I've been lurking under a different name for a few years now, but finally decided to get more... involved. I'd post my own "hey I'm new" thread rather than responding here, but ... I gotta admit, I'm a bit shy! I gotta shake that off soon. :)

Spots for the gents are secured through ticket sales (covers snacks, a drink for the ladies and other related goodies). I still have a few details to finalize on my side as i'm toying with a few ideas in making the June 12th event different/better than the previous ones. I'll make an official announcement by the end of this week, or very early next week. So, keep an eye on this thread.

I agree with what the other ladies have already posted. Please understand that how you have a preference on whom you would like to visit with - WE (companions) have a preference on who we would like to spend time with. For me, I prefer 40+ I find I have a much better connection visiting with company slightly older than myself. I have personally found that the majority of younger men don't have a clue what they want and are more into a date that Im not into offering. As well I find I don't have much in common with a younger man and it leaves little to talk about, which leads to a not so much fun date. Don't get me wrong there are people I have spent time with that have been younger than that - however they have had impeccable references from ladies I know and that was the deciding factor on whether I visited with them. Keep in mind this is my opinion and no one else's. There are ladies who have no issue with age of whom they may visit with and maybe that is the route you need to go. Once you can gain some credibility from a lady who can vouch for you(with you being a gentleman and a wonderful client), that may help with getting an encounter with another lady you want to see. (please note it may not as some ladies are firm on their age requirements) Its nothing against you personally, its just what works for both parties involved. I mean do you really want to spend time with a lady who does not want to visit with you as you don't meet her requirements? That would not be a fun date.

Your asked for feedback, and started a thread which is going to elicit honest discussion and comments about the themes many of us providing sexual services experience with men seeking our services. Those themes inevitably result in generalizations to achieve a very particular task, which in this case was to unpack the various reasons why some SPs choose not to see men under a certain age. I don't see any disrespect happening here. And, if you truly feel that you exude respect and maturity, consider taking the advice graciously given here about how to tactfully approach service providers in seeking their company. Good luck! Anna

In this lifestyle, speaking in generalities of course, with age comes with maturity. Where as a young man may think he's god's gift, with age comes a maturity, the realization that a gentleman knows he isn't god's gift, but he knows and appreciates that he is going to see one of god's gift, the Goddess he is sharing a hour or a few with. And he appreciates the time the lady has set aside to see him. He does not view her time as an entitlement for him. As has been suggested, contact a lady, build a rapport. When the time is right ask if she will see you. Offer to pay a deposit in advance (there are many well recommended ladies here on CERB in case you are worried about sending money in advance) plus volunteer verification information (your real name, board handle confirmed by PM, email, an unblocked contact phone number) a reference if you have one. She may need other information if you don't have a reference. And btw the ladies can be trusted with this information Be open, forthcoming, show you are more mature than your age, and you may get an companion agreeing to see you despite your youth. And if she declines your request, say thank you and move on. Even if you give her verification information, doesn't mean she owes you an encounter. Be mature at all times, even if you are declined A rambling from a fifty something bald man RG

My advice would be to strike up a conversation with someone you are interested in. Connect via the online world and let her get to know you before trying to book a date. If you can create a good rapport, perhaps she will reconsider and arrange a meeting. What Malika said is sad but true. Prove that you aren't a 20 something jerk and maybe you will reap the rewards :)

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Yes, you are correct and I'm sorry if I offended any SPs who offer these appts as it was not my intent. I should have worded it differently yet my emotions got the best of me as I've had to deal with people who want them but don't bother to read my ad or tell me they only have X amount and want 15 mins.. Rest assured, I'm not someone who looks down on other providers or make them feel bad for offering 15 minute appts. To each their own,.

As an SP, I offer an "experience" not to be a "cum bucket" for someone's release for lack of better words. No thanks. If I'm going to be just a release for somone, they are going to be paying for it. I'm not a machine and a 15 min appt is not worth it to me since it takes the same amount of time to set up and get ready. Then there is the aspect of those trying to get more time for free and then there is the volume where how many clients are coming and going in a day. I am a very discrete person and would never allow this to happen when I can make more on a single appt alone. I'm not an avid clock watcher but when someone texts me with a laundry lists of specific acts they want for $60 for 15 mins or expect what they would get in a 30 or 60 min appt, do yourself a favor a favor and go to a street corner. I take time and pride in what I do and myself and my surroundings reflect that as well. I have no interest in doing these types of appts and contrary to men who are fans of 15 min service, you get what you pay for. In a fantasy world, if I did one of these 15 mins appts, it would be the bare minimum. Why should I go out of my way when someone is attempting to negotiate my rates? Why should I go the extra mile? I had someone text me once and said they only needed 5 mins of my time for $20. DELETE! If you're looking for a 15 min session then more power to you but don't expect the world for $60. Last year a 15 min appt was $100. Then it went to $80 and now guys are demanding $60. The reason this is happening because women let them. They get into this business with no training from an agency. They have a cell phone, put up a BP ad and call themselves an escort. Then some men bully them into giving them service for $60 -$80 and often times let manipulate them into staying overtime for the same rate. Some of these women don't know any better. The real sense of having an experience with an escort is long forgotten such as when I first started as an SP. That whole aspect has been thrown out the window and it's all about how a man can get off in the shortest amount of time with the lowest amount of cash to offer. Thankfully there are men out there who appreciate SPs and the time together.

nice review snowman, do you mind telling me how much was the tip worth?

Definitely refreshing! I was referred to this site by another SP :) glad to be here! Kerri

Assuming different options are available with GFE or PSE will only make you mad when you find out these are not available from some ladies. GFE and PSE are "STYLES of SERVICE" and not actual services!! You CAN NOT assume PSE or GFE include any specific services. STYLES.... Mechanical Style: This means no chemistry and just what it is (Sex) no illusion of lust or passion. GFE: Girl friend experience (Does not include specific services) this is a style of date where chemistry is tried to be created, feelings of lust and passion. Usually includes kissing and a more intimate fantasy. The lady appears (and often is) genuinely interested in pleasing you and often enjoys being pleasured as well. PSE: Porn star experience (Does not include specific services) this is also a style of date. It is not a romantic/passion/chemistry type encounter it is like what you see in the porn movies (A little dirty and hardcore) SAFE PSE/GFE: means condoms are used for oral sex (and possibly DATY protection is used) - Some girlfriends and porn stars insist on condoms for everything too guys! CONDOMS are used IN ALL STYLES (Some people assume condoms are not used with these styles as often real girl friends and porn stars do not use condoms). DO NOT ASSUME THIS AS YOU WOULD BE VERY WRONG - IT IS UNSAFE TO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX! You guys who assume services are included in these styles are setting yourself up to be let down. Just because one lady offers specific services (and possibly markets it as GFE/PSE does not mean the next lady will offer the same services. They are usually similar as a really good GFE would include kissing, bbbj and some touching and rubbing to build chemistry and fantasy. If you feel she is actually attracted to you and into the encounter she may be (or she may be VERY good at her job - just go with it!) Don't EXPECT any services - always ask or research first and if you show up with bad breath, rotten teeth, bad hygiene or dressed like a bum chances are you are going to be even more disappointed. In Addition: One of the ladies PM'd me to mention that one of the reasons ladies may not kiss is from being unshaven. A lot of stubble can do a girl some major damage. I would assume this to be true with DATY as well with some.