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Reading this thread I think you might be off the snow ranting like this. Gotta be.

If your encounter was anything but good, I wouldn’t believe it anyways. Sweetie has been someone I’ve been seeing since 2020. Never had one bad experience with her. Sweetest girl. Being angry because she needs ID verification for a booking process is a bit dramatic. Amazing girl, amazing reviews, amazing time seeing her. Point blank period.

This is how i know you’re lying …. I took a break from this 2023-2025, i recently just started back up last month and i have only taking reputable clients on lyla. One of which you have not been. I Haven’t even posted a leolist ad yet or used a number. Strictly only seeing clients and using Lyla PM’s. Thank god or else i would have actually believed you! Also only strictly offering tantra which has nothing but good reviews for me thankfully as well 🙂 The fact you’re trying to lie and on top insinuate you saw me and got bad services just shows how much disrespect and hate you have for sex workers. which is a huge red flag and once again a reminder to NEVER offer you services as you are showing your true colours on this thread… It’s disturbing how hateful you are towards me because i ask my clients for ID verification. A HUGE red flag and i 100% would not feel safe seeing you.

I am just making a post letting everyone know I only started back up here on Lyla not even one month ago. I haven’t posted on Leolist at all in years, to this day. I only accept Tantra clients through Lyla PM and I have a strict booking process. Here are some of my reviews as well: https://www.lyla.ch/topic/199173-sweetie-•-latino-•-ll-•-1762/?tab=comments#comment-947452 https://www.lyla.ch/topic/198799-sweetie/?tab=comments#comment-896312 ❤️ Tantric Healing Sessions Are Back ❤️ Step into a calm, softly lit space filled with meditation music, incense, candles, and aromatherapy (scents can be removed if you have sensitivities 🌿). My sessions are designed to guide you into deep relaxation, sensual healing, and ultimate pleasure through a blend of tantric techniques. ✨ What’s Included: Full body tantric massage (head to toe) Guided tantric breathing Sensual touch therapy Lymphatic drainage & relaxation massage Temperature therapy with warming gel Gentle head massage & energy healing Intimate connection woven throughout the experience 💫 Session Flow (1 hour): First 20 min: Back body focus Second 20 min: Front body massage & connection Final 20 min: Deeper tantric release & full experience FS HE. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ note: 10-10-10 is hh, 20-20-20 is 1 hr session, 30-30-30 is 90 mins. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ 💕 Rates: 30 min: 300 1 hr: 400 90 min: 700 (Oral not included — available for an additional 100 if requested.) 📞 Booking: Please provide your name, age, ethnicity, preferred session length, and a contact number/time to confirm your appointment. Thank you❤️ I am working on a booking website and once that’s up I will be posting real advertisements again❤️ For now to get ahold of me PM’s are the way to go!

This thread needs to be thrown right in the trash where it belongs, I can't believe it's still going 🗑 The ignorance and lack of respect towards us is fckn sad But threads like these show people's true characters thank God for that

You just tried to lie to sabotage my reputation. This is the last comment i’m making to you since you’re clearly a dangerous person.

Bro... Who hurt you?

I’m always happy to send a verification photo - that doesn’t mean including my face, but I do not edit out my identifiable tattoos and am happy to write a sign of their choosing/pose with something specific that can’t be faked. That said, I do find it offensive to continue to ask for photos, ask for full nudity or special outfits for free. I’ve done my proper verification, provide reviews, and through tryst was ID verified. I don’t have a website, I prefer to stay quite a bit more private. but I also do not ask for their ID or a deposit unless they are asking me to travel an extensive distance. I do sometimes ask for an uber to be booked, as a form of deposit that is of no benefit to me, other then assurance they won’t fall asleep or change their mind by the time I arrive. This is only for first time, late night requests typically. when it comes to multiple verification requests, it’s typically somebody trying to mess around unfortunately.

Hey boys Wanna feel like you entered paradise you have to see these 2 on leolist today.

Amazing!

In and out service is the name of the game...LOL

She is touring the Maritime cities now. Nice choice of hotel in Moncton. Decent body, good size natural breasts and soft skin. Lots of tattoos and nipples are pierced (for those who like it - I don’t). Good safe service, friendly to chat to but very business like (in-and-out service).

Well, to put a positive spin on her, at least she isn't a post-menopausal "auntie"! 🤣

100% noted to never offer you any type of services! thanks for showing your true colours on this post babe❤️ xoxo

I have no idea how I've managed to only pay Lily Rose a visit today. She is absolutely divine. Beautiful face, sweet voice, glorious tight petite body. 30mins was definitely not enough time to spend in this young lady's company. The little sounds she made were just what I want to hear from my partner. Music to my ears. It's so wonderfully obvious that she loves what she does and she does it very very well. Booking was easy, and quick. From the first text to being in the room with this beautiful woman was literally 30mins. YFL never fail.

Sure but let's say I send a fake ID to a provider. Scenario 1: I just used someone else's ID. Either someone I know or a random ID I found on the internet. I arrive at incall and they look through the peep hole and I'm a different person so I get refused service. Or they come to outcall and I open the door and am nothing like the ID and they refuse service. Scenario 2: I have a good fake with my picture but fake info. I assault the provider. They report me to the police who will run the ID but it comes back fake. They run my picture and find my real ID. I'm arrested. Scenario 3: an ID I found online but the pic looks close enough to me that I get away with it. I guess you get away with it and get someone else in a lot of trouble potentially. But honestly in this case I feel like the client would just go for an easier target unless they had already done all the work to find a doppleganger ID. Asking for ID is for their safety as it will likely stop most of the creeps and guys who mean to harm the provider because it would just take a lot more work to get through the screening. Now the conversation about keeping the ID is totally different and I'm sure different providers have different policies for that. Again I would hope they would delete the data after the session but I'm sure not all of them do. But what are they really going to get with an ID? Sure they could sell it but to who? They don't have your SIN. I've emailed copies of my ID for other things and email isn't secure. When you buy a car they copy your ID. People lose ID's all the time and just get replacements so I doubt there's a super lucrative business out there for providers selling pictures of ID's.

Has to be fake. Telegram is a dead give away. Also mentions full service without a cover. Even if she's real but she offers that it would be a hard pass for me. But yeah. Fake.

I'm going to regret posting I'm sure... It's not only a power play. You are undermining and underestimating how at risk providers are. Again as stated multiple times if you don't want to do it then don't. Asking for ID tends to make people behave better then when they are anonymous. Having someone's ID also means if there is an issue like assault the provider has the clients real info to take to the police instead of "well he told me his name was X but it's probably fake." Those are two pretty understandable reasons. Now I would hope that an SP would delete your ID and not keep a record of it after you see them and all goes well but I don't know and assume most probably keep it for some time at least. You have to decide if that is worth the risk when you go to book. And to the original topic I think it's fine to ask for verification for lesser known providers who only post on LL. The providers with websites, reviews, active social media, etc you shouldn't ask because you can verify yourself through those channels.

Just don't book with anyone! So you don't have to worry about what anyone does with your information, problem solved🤷‍♀️🙄

This is WILD ... Thankyou to those gentlemen that respect our time and booking procedures because this is too much

The best clients screen and follow the booking practices of their chosen provider. It's that simple This might weed out some nice people, but it's also weeded out so much bs for me personally, I have no regrets I'm still busy enough to be able to pick and choose from the pool of screened and verified guests who contact me, and decide who I want to see or not, for whatever arbitrary reason I choose I get less abuse, blackmail, threats, drama, people showing up without appts, etc, because of this. You don't have to like it, but it does protect us, in many ways You don't have to believe what we tell you, and we don't have to book anyone that makes us uncomfortable, for any reason, screening or not. Idk why that's so hard to grasp

Well...I just got caught up on this thread over more than one cup of coffee...and while I'm sure I'll regret commenting at all, I am confident "over-thinking" is not the issue here...quite the opposite seemingly. The only "fear mongering" I recall reading above is coming from a client, who depsite claiming to have given out his ID more than once, has not done so in a manner that would prevent the use of a fake/alternate ID, which is easily achievable, as those who have followed a SW'ers suggested screening processes are well aware. With very few exceptions, I "only" seek to spend time with obviously legitimate pro's who desire screening, for my own security & peace of mind, as much as theirs...the words "obviously legitimate" being paramount here. I'm on board with @TommyRuss who said it best so far..."Can confirm those of us who follow the required booking process are treated to an amazing time!" This. All. Day. The choice, & "power" is in fact, in my hands...screen as requested, and reap the rewards...or don't, and walk away...🤷‍♂️ Adding my two cents...the dead horse isn't much more than a stain on the highway at this point...

So stay paranoid. You're not our clientèle anyway. Stay scared. We ain't here to change your mind. I'd be more scared booking someone with no screening. But hey, some people don't mind finding cops or theives in real life behind the door...

I’ve invested tens of thousands into my business. branding, photoshoots, reviews, an active online presence. You think I’d throw all that away to scam some random Tom Dick and Harry with a couple grand in his bank account? Something i can make in a day... Legit providers have reputations to uphold. That’s literally what keeps us booked. Destroying that for a deposit makes zero sense. Going online to ‘ruin clients’ doesn’t pay my bills. my work does.

•Ah, so someone that goes through the screening process MUST be a 'good' client automatically? I wasn't aware it was 100% effective. -where did i say that? I even quoted myself. •do you LOOK at all the ads out there? in 5 short years it's gone from 10% fake to 90% fake, and that's not an exaggeration. -How is that our problem? You have more than enough tools other than leolist to find legit escorts. That’s a you problem. Enjoy your podcast I'm not listening to that.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/murder-day-parole-eustachio-gallese-1.5439020 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/courtepatte-killer-also-guilty-of-prostitute-s-murder-1.1083335 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/serial-killer-robert-pickton-dead-1.7221260

Uhhh… yeah, that’s the whole point. Even with screening, we are still at risk, but obviously we’re going to do our best to protect ourselves. So your alternative is what? Just agree to meet anyone with a fake number, no deposit, no screening? Okay… So who’s coming to see me then? How many actually show up? How many send threats or waste my time? ‘No face, no case’.

How is this a double standard? We literally expose ourselves online every single day to prove legitimacy. Ads are verified, socials are linked, we post many photos, we collaborate with others. Our reputations are public and constantly scrutinized. You, on the other hand, are hiding behind a random phone number and nothing else. You call it ‘fear mongering,’ but the truth is we are targeted. Escorts have been stalked, assaulted, and murdered by clients. That’s not overthinking, that’s fact. You asking me to just hand out selfies, my hotel room number, or my ID is reckless. I risk losing my safety, or worse. Those are not the same stakes. And please stop comparing this to hiring a deck builder. No deck builder is meeting strangers behind closed doors in a stigmatized industry with their body on the line. Screening is not a power play. It’s a survival tool. So yes, we screen. If that makes you uncomfortable, this hobby isn’t for you. White male privilege is assuming you can dismiss women’s safety because it doesn’t affect you personally.

Clearly because we're not supposed to let you peek behind the magic curtain, but at risk of spoiling the fantasy, we have reasons for our methods and I shouldn't have had to spell it out for you 🙄 I already told you that people stalk us, but the spammy behaviour made you finally get the picture? Ugh It actually weeds out more bs than you'd think With every restriction that you think is silly, there is a clear reason why it's been accepted as standard by independent sps. I used to book fake names and no phone numbers, but they couldn't all be trusted and it ruined it for everyone. Statistically, people just fuck around less if you know who they are irl. That's well studied and documented across many situations, not just sw. In our situation, fucking around risks our health, security, and safety, so we just can't tolerate that

We do not agree I'm not building you a deck. Or sucking your dick, for that matter No matter how you twist my words 😂 Thank youuuu, screening 🙏

The hoops were the same til someeee people decided they could just make 9272 new email addresses /phone numbers/new identities and do unsavory shit The ID verification became necessary because someeee people couldn't be trusted,. And while we can also get blackmailed etc like you, we also risk death, soooo It's not like this isn't well documented with a simple Google search. Some sps now require IDs And people try to mess with that, so yeah, maybe more changes have to come in the future lol that's your choice though Spread that around maybe, if you don't like how things are/where they might go?

Can confirm those of us who follow the required booking process are treated to an amazing time!

I certainly didn't jump down anyone's throat. I simply posited that there are many SP's that have lots of reviews, social media presence, and have clear instructions on how to go about setting up a date. The onus is on YOU the buyer to do your due diligence. If that means that YOU want to ask for verification, so be it. At the same time, the SP can refuse to abide by that request, as has been so forcefully demonstrated in this thread. You are not wrong about the power dynamic. You may not like it, but the SP has total control of the service you are trying to secure. You may not agree with conditions they set for acquiring their services, but guess what, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. You suggest an ever escalating series of hoops that clients have to jump through to secure an SP's services. You know when that will cease? When assholes stop questioning why these ladies have to do what they do. This must be the only industry where customers think they can go to market and try to tell the seller how to conduct their business, and simultaneously yell at them about the way they conduct their business.

Coming from the loudest fear mongerer here 🙄 It IS about power, you're completely right.. And also completely wrong If we reveal ALL of our safety practices and the why, on a public forum, y'all will find ways around them and further risk our lives, homes, and general safety 🙄 We do need to keep some mystical magic about us, for our own safety lol This used to be commonly understood, back when lyla was cerb It's been elaborated here enough that any newb to the forum should get the idea, but if you're still lost, look up any ture crime doc on murdered sps, and see why we screen, if you don't want to believe our lived experiences while we're ALIVE to tell them 🙄 If you can't comprehend why women meeting strange men alone for naked endeavours might want those men to not be anonymous, then this clearly isn't the hobby for you 🤷

You're actually trying to compare the dynamics of maybe clients taking advantage of new sps naivety, to established providers who accept prepayment? Because I don't know of anyone demanding full payment up front from strangers who haven't no showed 👀 It's not the same at all, and you know this You could just choose not to book those providers lol idk why this is so hard for you to understand

I'm not kidding myself. You're right, I've never been scammed or robbed or fucked over by any SP that I've seen. Why? Because I take proper precautions. I check for reviews. I ask questions. I firmly believe that whatever happens to me is a result of my own actions. I have never once sent a deposit, however if it was a lady that had reviews, website, social media presence, you know, A DISCERNABLE POSITIVE REPUTATION, I would have no issues going through a screening process if it was a girl that I really wanted to visit. Ultimately these women are responsible for what happens to them. If that means they want to set their own requirements for seeing a gentleman, that's their business and if you don't like it you can seek entertainment elsewhere. To answer your hypothetical, if the ladies decided to make unreasonable requests, then I simply wouldn't see that woman. Here's the thing you're missing. You have a choice. You can choose to see a lady that requires a deposit, or not. You can choose to not screen and see a woman who doesn't ask for any of that. You. Can. Choose. I think the real issue is that you REALLY want to see all these wonderful ladies but just don't like the requirements. To your comment about virtue signalling. I'm sorry if wanting everyone to be safe and comfortable offends you.

There's so many amazing gentlemen out there who screen and follow our booking process without questions. They read out ads and websites and do proper research, they never been scammed. They treat us good and have an amazing time during the date. Why waste our time with the one's who give us headache with just booking lol...

Why argue with Sp's, you ask? Its a power play, and always has been I started out new and naive, and jumped through the hoops, so I can attest that the ones who requested the most of me, usually don't book, or are extremely demanding clients because they think we don't know what's unsavory behaviour yet. I did do the ridiculous plz pick me verify pics with the dates, or two fingers up, and all it did was waste my time, gain me stalkers or issues, and have more people asking for more pics because some people here like to gossip about us behind the scenes and now everyone knew that I fell for the pic collecting scam 😂 I even sent face pics.. It's been more than a decade - that was clearly unnecessary It was about power, and seeing how how we'll allow our boundaries to be pushed, before meeting, if they ever even booked. This is why this behaviour will always be met with offense from the veteran sps here. We know where this goes and no ty

It's wild how many men are so inconsiderate of our safety, boundaries and time And it's gotten worse over the years

Sell your identity 😂 be for real. You should worry about facebook actually selling your real life data more than us just having your name or drivers license.

Yes, because that type of shit really does happen Wether it be asking for I d, a photo, deposit or whatever one needs to feel safe I for one will NOT invite anyone into my personal space without a deposit and will NOT book with private/fake numbers My safety is the upmost important thing to me, I have dealt with a few crazy men it's not nice I will also book or not book based on the energy, if the gentleman is aggressive with the conversation and doesn't respect my boundaries I will NOT see him If the person contacting me is not comfortable providing the information required they are welcome to see someone else The least you can do is do your research on the lady before booking her

We're actually looking for an assurance that you won't try to stalk, assault, or try to kill us. Most of us have experienced somethinggg that's made us need to add more screening protocols 🙄 It's not just because it's just great for business to reduce accessibility to us lmao Studies for decades have shown that this simple thing saves lives But go on, booking randos from LL who don't know to screen yet, and preaching on here like the risks with those sps are the norm among the entire industry You can control your blackmail risks by not seeing unverified providers with no established online presence. Just like we control ours by not putting ourselves in (literally THE MOST) vulnerable positions with unscreened men. AND if I hear one more thing about that oneeee provider who was scammy 🙄😂 Most of us sps have had more than one absolutely horrible experience as well. Y'all know not to book her, the same way we've learned how to screen out some of the bs that we don't want to deal with Beating a dead horse here, to the same 5 people every time

Service providers get assaulted and murdered everyday. All it takes is a quick Google search and you’ll see this happens here in Canada, the US, and globally. This is very much a real fear for us and I wouldn’t doubt almost every woman who’s posted here on Lyla, if not all, has been harmed, stalked, or assaulted by a client in some way. Don’t bother arguing with me on this forum, you aren’t changing my mind. I’m speaking from lived experience. What’s low, is denying that this is the reality of participating in this industry.

Exactly! Thank you.

we need copies of your drivers license and to know exactly who you are because as a female it is extremely dangerous to be meeting random men online there are many stories of SP’s LITERALLY getting murdered. it’s way more dangerous for us than it is for you which is why we need much verification. You may risk getting scammed out of your money when in reality we are literally risking our lives. I’ve gotten assaulted many times which is why i don’t do outcalls anhmore and if i did i would need extensive verification to know exactly who im seeing. Even bringing them to my location i need verification. It’s scary out here as a female and the fact you’re so inconsiderate of that just shows what we have to deal with on a daily basis.

It's your job to do the proper research and choose someone that makes you feel safe. A legitimate swer has already done her part proving she's real. https://www.lyla.ch/topic/214084-how-to-screen-an-indépendant/

To be fair, more and more SP's are verifying themselves with social media, OF, Twitter accounts etc. the majority of the ladies I've seen recently all have "verified" using other apps etc. I haven't been disappointed in a long time by any bait and switch scams.

Well, I wouldn't say unpopular, but not everyone shares this view. I happen to fully agree with you. SPs take risks with strangers we can't fully comprehend. If they choose not to verify themselves for legitimate or less savoury reasons, or require a deposit and that doesn't jive with someone's preference then those folks should move on to someone more accommodating or more easily verifiable through other means. There are lovely verifiable women throughout this board, and many visiting beauties who rock our worlds...all we need to do is respect their person, their wishes and their boundaries.

It's not "wrong" to ask, but in reality, the question should be "why" are you asking? It's been discussed at length I know, but I can't seem to help myself from repeating this. With only one possible exception that I've read about in the past 5 or so years, this typically only happens when you're trying to save pennies on that scandolous "LeoList witch-hunt"...and once you've been scammed/blackmailed, you haven't saved a thing... The companions with active Twitter/X accts. & legit websites/reviews are not scamming people for deposits. They are, as has been oft repeated, simply looking to confirm your name, for nothing more than their own safety. There's a lot of people out there, having a lot of fun, because verifying an established SW'er is not a challenge at all, and they don't shy away from paying a deposit... Why argue with anyone for verification when there are so many established (& "verified") companions around? Many local, and seemingly even more visiting in a fairly steady stream... Just my unpopular opinion...

Another very real reason collecting real information is important. What if there is a medical emergency? We will have the basic information to provide the medical team so you don't show up at the hospital as a John Doe and your emergency contact(s) can be notified through the medical team.