LeeRichards 177238 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 Maybe its just me, but I find this a really offensive statement of people who offer shorter sessions. Sorry, but providing a session that meets the needs of your clients is the goal of any business. No one who provides shorter sessions has spent time making derogatory comments about the people who prefer longer times lol, so I can't figure out why I keep seeing so many comments that seem to agree with this quote. I think you'd be surprised both at how much of a connection can be made in shorter sessions, simply because financially, it leads to a LOT of repetition. I agree ! Quite simply a good post looking for opinions from people as to whether 45 minutes is an option, for those that maybe don't offer it now. Either an SP is interested or not interested and that is their perogative. There should NOT be criticism of ladies who offer short appointments......it should not be assumed that they are running the guys through the chute like cattle for money by the minute ...... They are offering a service to clients who have a time issue or a budget issue. That is how it should be looked at. If you have the opinion otherwise it does not need to be posted in this thread. Just keep that in the back or your mind. IMO 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Megan'sTouch 23875 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 There is justification for this too. There is no need to clean up the room; no need to redo the hair style, no need to pick up discarded clothing, no need for of change of wardrobe, no relighting of candles. There is time for a co ed shower to be part of the encounter and not just clean-up time. Naturally there is an allowance for a pee break(both teams). Tea break can be a part of the multiple hour encounter. Changing sheets and redoing our makeup is a very small part of our work. Sex work is also emotional labour. Spending 2 hours with one gentleman can be a lot more emotionally draining than spending an hour each with 2 gentlemen. Chemistry would play a huge role here. 19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Fantasy 144625 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 Changing sheets and redoing our makeup is a very small part of our work. Sex work is also emotional labour. Spending 2 hours with one gentleman can be a lot more emotionally draining than spending an hour each with 2 gentlemen. Chemistry would play a huge role here. I agree with Megan. Especially if it is the first time that you meet the gentleman and you spend 2,3 hours or even more with him...and you have zero chemistry, you need to pretend to be happy, smiling...but again sometime you have SUCH a good times with others gents that you are seriously, I got paid for that? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiaBella 10988 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 Changing sheets and redoing our makeup is a very small part of our work. Sex work is also emotional labour. Spending 2 hours with one gentleman can be a lot more emotionally draining than spending an hour each with 2 gentlemen. Chemistry would play a huge role here. I think you point out the perfect reason why generally there aren't big discounts for multiple hours. I never get tired or drained by sex, I'm a nympho. However, I can and do get emotionally drained at times, especially when booking sessions for multiple hours. In my experience, multiple hours take longer to plan, include more requests, attention to detail than say, a 30 min or 60 min session. You spend more time thinking of what special things you can do for the client since you'll be together longer. And, as Malika said, if it's a first meeting and you don't have great chemistry, what now? Frankly, I'm assuming that if someone is that taken with me and interested in spending extended periods of time with me, they are doing so because they want to be around me. Because they appreciate me as a human being and want my company. Not because I offer a discount on longer sessions. That makes no sense. Even though I get paid for this, as it is my job, I don't see clients for multiple hours if I feel it would hurt our relationship in some way(long sessions aren't for everyone), or if I don't like the gent. Money isn't everything and my place is not a revolving door of cash flow and random men. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) I think you point out the perfect reason why generally there aren't big discounts for multiple hours.I never get tired or drained by sex, I'm a nympho. However, I can and do get emotionally drained at times, especially when booking sessions for multiple hours. In my experience, multiple hours take longer to plan, include more requests, attention to detail than say, a 30 min or 60 min session. You spend more time thinking of what special things you can do for the client since you'll be together longer. And, as Malika said, if it's a first meeting and you don't have great chemistry, what now? Frankly, I'm assuming that if someone is that taken with me and interested in spending extended periods of time with me, they are doing so because they want to be around me. Because they appreciate me as a human being and want my company. Not because I offer a discount on longer sessions. That makes no sense. Even though I get paid for this, as it is my job, I don't see clients for multiple hours if I feel it would hurt our relationship in some way(long sessions aren't for everyone), or if I don't like the gent. Money isn't everything and my place is not a revolving door of cash flow and random men. I found long (2 or 3 hours) sessions draining on me too...well twice, with ladies that (I won't name, it is their livelihood) let's say no chemistry with. God I couldn't wait for the encounter to end. And at least for me, it's not an issue of money, if there is no chemistry, money wise, easy come, easy go, I'd rather end it sooner, the lady can keep the money, and we end the session sooner than later And the money question, I recognize that the lady did calendar me in (over another client) at a specific date and time, so I'd let her keep the money for the encounter if cut short, if quite obvious there was no chemistry. And chemistry is after all a ymmv, sometimes 2 people just don't click, nobody's fault However, those thank goodness, too few encounters I don't focus on, I've had so many great encounters of two-three hours And I do like a first encounter to be a two hour encounter. It allows time to sit down, have something to drink, conversation, get to know one another. Seeing ladies for me isn't just about sex, it's about companionship. And thats why, for me at least, you need a couple hours to get to know one another. If you click, then repeat encounters are usually three hours. But I can see a 45 minute (well for me 30 minute) session, if it was only about sex. And that thirty minutes allows me 5 minutes to get undressed, 5 minutes to get dressed, maybe a 5 minute break to catch my breath too LOL But no matter what, I'm never looking for discounts, if I want to see a lady, it's because there is something about that lady that caught my attention, and I want to meet her Some quick additional thoughts RG Edited September 14, 2011 by r__m__g_uy Some additional thoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Hunter 18263 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 Good thread someguy. You got yourself a rep for starting this thread. All my encounters are 45 minutes even though I always book the lady for one hour. The last 15 minutes is for the lady to shower, dry up and dress up, hug and kiss and be escorted back to the elevator. That said, the 45 minute option looks very attractive for incalls but that doesn't apply to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyra.Graves 23779 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 How do I feel ? ENVIOUS. There are many of us that have to plan and scheme for the oppertunity of an encounter. The Sun the Moon and all the Stars have to align just so for us. So when the oppertunity comes we don't want to knock off a 75% of a hour for this special event. *snipped to make my post not quite as long* ;) I vote for discounts on multiple hours. I think the issue here is that there are a number of ladies with different styles and interests and we do not all have the same business model. I am contacted at least once a day with someone asking for my "one hour rate" to which I constantly need to reiterate that I don't offer one hour dates as they are very different in nature than longer dates. When someone advertises 15min, 30min or 45min dates you can be sure that the lady is advertising a sexual service meaning the focus of the encounter is very specifically the sexual act. When ladies advertise longer dates and services as their main offering they are generally focused on the chemistry, the connection and more of a date feel. These are two very different types of services and very few ladies can effectively offer both as many ladies have said longer dates can be very emotionally exhausting and shorter dates can be very physically exhausting. In your post you highlight that you are looking for the longer date, the connection which in general will not be established in a date of less than one hour (and often 2hrs or more) so I'd guess you are not in the target market for the ladies that prefer to offer shorter dates. There are different markets for the various types of encounters and it's very important to seek out those that provide the type of experience you are seeking, otherwise you are likely to be disappointed with the outcome of your date. So I don't single out another lady I'll use myself as an example, please bear with me as I don't have much experience with the shorter date. I always advertise 2hrs or more, I do have discounted rates for multiple hours, my dinner date (half out half in) isn't even double my 2hr rate and often is longer than 4hrs as well and as such it's my most popular date. I offer that because I am trying to make it clear that I prefer a social engagement, I enjoy talking to my dates and getting to know them as individuals. I used to offer 1hr dates when I was with an agency and though I still met a number of wonderful people I always walked away from the date a bit uncomfortable, I felt awkward and I wasn't able to relax and enjoy my time with the person I was with, when it came to intimacy I never felt I could relax and enjoy myself as I didn't feel a particular level of trust with the person I was with. I'm not an extrovert, in fact I'm very introverted so for me the immediate intimacy of 1hr dates was difficult. Now I know a number of good friends in the industry that have a completely opposite take on this business, one lady explained to me what she enjoyed best is the 'dirty' feeling of meeting someone new and having sex with them while not knowing much about them. Another lady said she finds it difficult in longer encounters to find that connection as she's in a different point in her life than most of her clients but they both enjoy sex and she can find that commonplace in a half hour or hour. So there are different ladies, different views and different approaches, one is not better than the other they are just tailored for different people and hopefully we all connect with the type of date we are looking for. Finally in regards to costing often you are paying a premium for longer dates rather than shorter ones. For my base city my $1500 for a dinner date is fairly average but my 2hr date of $900 is a premium. This has nothing to do with the amount of time I spend changing sheets, showering, etc. but is mainly based on the incentive to those that also enjoy social dates, it's a way of connecting with my preferred audience. In fact longer dates can take much more planning and work as most extended dates are prebooked and multiple emails (or phone calls) will be exchanged before one arrives at final plans. When a client is paying $1500 vs. $250 for a date there are higher expectations on the lady even though the lady at $250/hr may make more in gross profit than the lady at the higher rate. I know it's often expected of me to have nails, hair and makeup done, in general it's expected that I have a much more extensive wardrobe to allow me to easily blend with whatever environment I am invited to and those clothes are expected to be of a certain quality as well as I am expected to appear to match the clients social status - it generally isn't discrete to go to a fine dining restaurant with a lady half your age in a $30 dress when you are wearing something bespoke. So all in all the costs are different, how the ladies invest in their business is different and how they spend their time as well. I also don't spend a lot of my day sitting at an incall waiting for the phone to ring but the cost of that time is certainly calculated in how a lady with a different business model much the same as I calculate the time spent emailing with restaurant suggestions, verification, or concierge type services. *whew* end of my novel but I hope (if anyone bothered to read it) I have provided a little more insight into why ladies structure their businesses, both time and cost, the way they do. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chavez 641 Report post Posted September 14, 2011 Wonderful! Love your buisness modle & helped me understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someguy 67067 Report post Posted April 24, 2012 I thought that i would reoen this thread. Notice more sp are offering 45 minute option. Jusdt wanted to know if more clients were taking this option. It is a bit more econimical. But gives an more of an unrushed encounter plus time to get back to work f is during a lunfh time encounter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meg O'Ryan 266444 Report post Posted April 24, 2012 I think that a lot of us would consider it if asked :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted April 24, 2012 I offer a 45 minute option and yes, I have clients who request it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolette Vaughn 294340 Report post Posted April 24, 2012 I find 45 minute appts are good because some people find a half hour a wee bit too short and sometimes an hour would be too much. I'm considering putting this option in my ads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted April 25, 2012 I do offer it.. have for a long time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzly Slushie 1487 Report post Posted April 25, 2012 Having the 45 minute option is fantastic.....for others. I need a minimum of TWO HOURS!! Any less is not enough for me and I need the conversation bits, sexual bits, laughter bits and if possible, quiet bits. 45 minutes is driving in rush hour with my head on the wheel.....too boring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My***tLixx Report post Posted April 25, 2012 I've wondered about 4-5 minute sessions too. OOOPS! I meant 45 minute sessions (honest)...lol:quicky: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shelly Lane 13856 Report post Posted April 25, 2012 Good morning everyone, I think the 45min option would work well at certain times of the day, let say between 11am-1pm and 4pm-6pm. This would help with lunch app and drive home time. I would certainly consider it! Have a great day all! xo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athos 108589 Report post Posted April 25, 2012 All sorts of different needs and I can see that the 45 minute session would suit a lot of hobbyists and be a popular option. I've never done a 30 minute session and would probably not book a 45 minute either. Minimum an hour, and my preference these days is for multi-hour appointments. As I get older, I value the relaxed moments of conversation and cuddles, and need the recovery time! Quite frankly, I also really want extended foreplay. Ideally involving making out like teenagers!! Porthos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roamingguy 300292 Report post Posted April 26, 2012 Only if I can add at least another hour and fifteen minutes to it, if not more. Forty five minutes might be a viable option for some, but for me, a minimum of two hours is what I like Great thing about this lifestyle though, it offers something for everyone, no right or wrong RG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someguy 67067 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 I have yet to have a 30 minute session yet. I would find it too short. Not enough time to talk and get to know the person. I am not interested in just the sex. I like the time to get to know the person and maybe make a friend at the same time. Do you SP's like the 30 minute sessions or do you prefer 45 or an hour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 Not everyone can afford more than 30 minutes.. so they don't have the luxury of choosing 45-1 hr or longer.. I am amenable to all options. I can be a quickie girl and it can be fun and hot.. or I can be a long evening date and carry on a conversation as well as entertain :) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luckybreak 1451 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 I'm relatively new to cerb, but not new to the concept of respecting my fellow man (or woman in this case). It seems the question is one of economics, not pleasure or consideration. Personally I like to fully appreciate all the nuances of the experience: ...the first impression...takes a few minutes to absorb that which your companion has hopefully taken some time to prepare ...the cleanse...I don't care if I showered in the elevator on the way up to my date I want to feel exceptionally clean and I want my date to be assured that I am as well (pays dividends I think) and a little help with that task is always appreciated ...the chat ... even if its an old friend and she's already gotten a head start ;) ...takes a few minutes to navigate ...the deed... I like to take my time to give as much as I receive ... and I would like to think that I am not at McDonalds but rather enjoying a fine dining experience ...the cool down...after any quality workout its important to stretch and allow the heart to return to normal...hopefully your heart is breaking a little knowing you have to leave ...the wrap up...unfortunately life goes on and you do have to go and unless you have underperformed and your date is handing your clothes to you in a ball and escorting you to the door...this as well will take a few minutes Consequently I don't see 45 min as being anything more than a quick release, and I can do that myself if need be...and would likely run longer than shorter thus disrespecting the lady in question. A wise man once said to me "life is more about the journey than the destination...enjoy the walk" If the issue is one of compromise on time and expense I like the 90 min option! ...Jay 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carrie Moon 68826 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 Consequently I don't see 45 min as being anything more than a quick release, and I can do that myself if need be...and would likely run longer than shorter thus disrespecting the lady in question. I actually enjoy watching a man masturbate and a mutual masturbation is super fun! regardless of whether it's in 5 min or 90.. :):jackoff: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reccestan 421 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 I find that 30 minutes is too quick but an hour can be too drawn out. Plus some hour prices are too much so 45 minutes is a great option. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luckybreak 1451 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 Hi Carrie....close your eyes and see me stroking myself thinking of you... Did I note earlier in the week that you have had a B'day recently...belated happy day! ...Jay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andee 220524 Report post Posted May 26, 2012 I find that 30 minutes is too quick but an hour can be too drawn out. Plus some hour prices are too much so 45 minutes is a great option. If you can't afford or don't need an hour, like you suggested, 45 minutes is a great option if 30 minutes isn't enough time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites