Turn-offs for a lady

[roamingguy 300291]

 

 

Best line ever? 'I'm so good you will WANT to give it to me for free'. bahahahahah!

 

 

Well as I discovered and is appreciated by the ladies is realizing that I'm not so good...." that way LOL but I respect and appreciate the companionship the ladies provide, pay them in full, plus a tip and gift.

Any guy that is so good I have a question for you, why do you need to see professional companions then?

I always remember this, even though we are opposite sides of the same coin, for guys it is an escape, for the ladies, their livelihood

Ladies want a client who is a gentleman...wanting their companionship for free is just disrespectful

 

A rambling

 

RG

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Men who say they don't want it to feel like it's a transaction but really it's just a guise for manipulation when they want it THEIR WAY which is best for them by the following:

 

A) They want to negotiate the rate but will still see the escort after she says no which leads to...

 

B) They ask to do unsafe things which the escort will never do and try to make them feel guilty in the process. Not her problem.

 

C) They want to see the escort outside the paid arrangement

 

D) They overstay their welcome

 

This is a mentally overwhelming nightmare type of client because the entire session is about guilt tripping.. As someone who is more experienced, I am assertive enough to say NO to all of the above but many women who don't have that experience may encounter that as a big problem and very unnerving. I find it extremely annoying and will never repeat with people who attempt to ask for those types of things.

[fortunateone 156618]

Men who say they don't want it to feel like it's a transaction but really it's just a guise for manipulation when they want it THEIR WAY which is best for them by the following:

 

A) They want to negotiate the rate but will still see the escort after she says no which leads to...

 

B) They ask to do unsafe things which the escort will never do and try to make them feel guilty in the process. Not her problem.

 

C) They want to see the escort outside the paid arrangement

 

D) They overstay their welcome

 

This is a mentally overwhelming nightmare type of client because the entire session is about guilt tripping.. As someone who is more experienced, I am assertive enough to say NO to all of the above but many women who don't have that experience may encounter that as a big problem and very unnerving. I find it extremely annoying and will never repeat with people who attempt to ask for those types of things.

 

 

 

And reason for 'not wanting this to seem like a transaction' # E http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/sex-worker-rights/

 

In 2010, Livas arranged the appointment with the sex-worker and agreed to pay her $800 in exchange for sex. When he arrived he handed her an envelope which supposedly contained the money.

 

When the woman went to check the contents of the envelope, Livas, who was a previous client of the woman, asked her not open it, saying that it would destroy the fantasy of trust between them.

 

After engaging in sex, the woman opened the envelope to discover that Livas had deliberately and maliciously deceived her. The envelope contained nothing but a folded brown paper bag and a white card with a flower on it.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

I am not a student and not looking for tutor in exchange for my services. When I say I don't offer something and recommend someone else, I don't need the guilt trip of being told that they would have hoped that we had met under different circumstances. If a person wants to call themselves a John, don't put that on me. That's how they feel about themselves.

 

I also won't have that same person attempt to make me feel guilty about what I do for a living yet requesting something that I say I don't offer for obvious health reasons and then being told that it's good I protect myself.

 

Captain Save an Escort much? I'm a grown mature woman. I think I know what I'm doing and I've already been to school thanks. I do not need a 20 something guy to tell me otherwise.

 

If a person can't afford to hobby, don't contact me! I sure as hell won't let their lack of funds be put upon me as a burden. I won't allow that.

 

It's Friday the 13th today.... where are the guys who just want to have a nice time without making it so damn complicated?? lol

[sophialarose 130]

Hi everybody!

For me, the worst thing it's when a man ask me for xxxxxxx without protection. I think it's very disrespectful for both of us. :icon_confused:

 

I provide in service and I really don't like when people just call or text me: ''What's the adress'' and they don't have any appointment. Grrrrr lol

 

(Im a french canadian, please don't juge my english!)

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Hi everybody!

For me, the worst thing it's when a man ask me for xxxxxxx without protection. I think it's very disrespectful for both of us. :icon_confused:

 

I provide in service and I really don't like when people just call or text me: ''What's the adress'' and they don't have any appointment. Grrrrr lol

 

(Im a french canadian, please don't juge my english!)

 

I agree with both and lately that seems to be the very common theme on both.

 

The first point you made seems to be asked sooooo casually now like it's no big deal. To expect that tells me they gotten it somewhere before and now there is an expectation across the board that it is available. No, it's not!

 

The second point about the address, when they ask for the address, not the intersection I tell them I'm not a walk in studio ( I do more massage these days) and thinking their English isn't their first language, I tell them it's a private location abs they have to call and book. I also verify the number to make sure it's not a google or app number. Then they ask for the postal code insisting on getting the address without making an appt, so I give them the address of the park a couple of blocks away. Lol I'm sure when they go to google it, they will be surprised! Lmao!

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[roamingguy 300291]

Men who say they don't want it to feel like it's a transaction but really it's just a guise for manipulation when they want it THEIR WAY which is best for them by the following:

 

A) They want to negotiate the rate but will still see the escort after she says no which leads to...

 

B) They ask to do unsafe things which the escort will never do and try to make them feel guilty in the process. Not her problem.

 

C) They want to see the escort outside the paid arrangement

 

D) They overstay their welcome

 

This is a mentally overwhelming nightmare type of client because the entire session is about guilt tripping.. As someone who is more experienced, I am assertive enough to say NO to all of the above but many women who don't have that experience may encounter that as a big problem and very unnerving. I find it extremely annoying and will never repeat with people who attempt to ask for those types of things.

 

There is another side of this coin. I for one understand that this is the lady's livelihood, it's never lost on me. But there are some ladies (well two in my case) that made it seem like they were there for money only, forgetting they had a client

The first (and no details) but she didn't arrive as promised (sort of speaking in euphemisms to avoid black outs on my post) But during our emails she said she be doing this that and the other. Showed up, clear she wasn't there for this that or the other. Her words to me "got to pay the bills hun, got to pay the bills"

Second example. Show up at the lady's place, Donation paid. Not a thank you. Instead, "oh good, now I can buy some groceries"

Nothing like being made to feel like a wallet and nothing more. In the first case she should have advised me by phone to give me the option of rescheduling my date. In the second case, just say thank you when given the donation. I didn't need to know she couldn't buy groceries, well until I paid her

Anyhow, just another perspective from a non negotiating, non boundary crossing time sensitive client who respects the companion client relationship :-)

 

RG

[Guest A**aTo**h]

Men who say they don't want it to feel like it's a transaction but really it's just a guise for manipulation when they want it THEIR WAY which is best for them by the following:

 

A) They want to negotiate the rate but will still see the escort after she says no which leads to...

 

B) They ask to do unsafe things which the escort will never do and try to make them feel guilty in the process. Not her problem.

 

C) They want to see the escort outside the paid arrangement

 

D) They overstay their welcome

 

This is a mentally overwhelming nightmare type of client because the entire session is about guilt tripping.. As someone who is more experienced, I am assertive enough to say NO to all of the above but many women who don't have that experience may encounter that as a big problem and very unnerving. I find it extremely annoying and will never repeat with people who attempt to ask for those types of things.

 

Hi Nicolette, very good points indeed! I've never attempted A, B, C, or D, nor would I ever wish to or want to! Everything is agreed to in advance by both and should be adhered to as planned!

 

My only difference of opinion is in reference to the actual feeling of the transaction itself and by that I mean the literal exchange prior to encounter, I find that part of the meeting most awkward, because it is literally transactional. I'm not saying that to create guilt, or for manipulation, I say that because on new meetings I just feel awkward, simple as that. I've only been with a few companions, but on first meeting have had a the magician-distractions-slight-of-hand-scenarios (envelope taken...oh I have to pee, be right back...envelope taken...oh house rules are you go to the bathroom shut the door and wash your hands for 60 seconds).

 

I know there is a matter of trust I certainly understand that envelopes must be checked prior to meeting, I don't blame the ladies for that at all!

 

I have visited with the same companion for the past two years now, she is lovely, and I enjoy her company. Prior to our very first meeting, I flat out explained my discomfort about the whole transaction part, and told her that we don't need to do slight-of-hand or anything, she could open it in front of me and count it until the cows came home. During our time, the envelope stayed unopened the entire time I saw her, and in the 3 dozen times since then, it still does.

 

I'm not suggesting that as a business practice by any means, I'm just relaying a story that is mine and hers, alone. We had weeks to text and email prior to meeting and I guess in that time, she determined that I was an ok person. Two years later, I am still flattered by her gesture.

 

I'm sorry if that rambled on too long or missed the point Nicolette, I just wanted to try to provide and example of what it feels like for things not to feel like a transaction.

[Ice4fun 78396]

I am a fan of email transfer when that works for the lady because it eliminates all that business transaction at the start of the session... i am there for the connection I want to feel like the lady is so happy to see me and that we welcome each other like long lost lovers ... we hug we kiss we talk and share... the envelope complicates that for me.

 

Now i fully understand that email transfer will not work for everyone and that for first time meetings it can be more complicated.

 

Ok and if I am really honest... i am becoming a lazy pervert and like not having to go to the bank before each visit lol

 

Just my Opinion

 

 

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[Meaghan McLeod 179664]

Great idea. I also hate the money aspect and would prefer an etransfer for my regular clients. New guys I understand why they would be nervous about this.

 

The whole exchange is awkward. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Hi Nicolette, very good points indeed! I've never attempted A, B, C, or D, nor would I ever wish to or want to! Everything is agreed to in advance by both and should be adhered to as planned!

 

My only difference of opinion is in reference to the actual feeling of the transaction itself and by that I mean the literal exchange prior to encounter, I find that part of the meeting most awkward, because it is literally transactional. I'm not saying that to create guilt, or for manipulation, I say that because on new meetings I just feel awkward, simple as that. I've only been with a few companions, but on first meeting have had a the magician-distractions-slight-of-hand-scenarios (envelope taken...oh I have to pee, be right back...envelope taken...oh house rules are you go to the bathroom shut the door and wash your hands for 60 seconds).

 

I know there is a matter of trust I certainly understand that envelopes must be checked prior to meeting, I don't blame the ladies for that at all!

 

I have visited with the same companion for the past two years now, she is lovely, and I enjoy her company. Prior to our very first meeting, I flat out explained my discomfort about the whole transaction part, and told her that we don't need to do slight-of-hand or anything, she could open it in front of me and count it until the cows came home. During our time, the envelope stayed unopened the entire time I saw her, and in the 3 dozen times since then, it still does.

 

I'm not suggesting that as a business practice by any means, I'm just relaying a story that is mine and hers, alone. We had weeks to text and email prior to meeting and I guess in that time, she determined that I was an ok person. Two years later, I am still flattered by her gesture.

 

I'm sorry if that rambled on too long or missed the point Nicolette, I just wanted to try to provide and example of what it feels like for things not to feel like a transaction.

 

No worries! I understand about not wanting it to feel like a transaction. However, I can tell when someone purposely says this to try and get what they want as opposed upon greeting, the guest doesn't want to feel like a walking wallet or being abrupt about it.

 

Some people especially if they've read my website place it on the table. If they haven't I will ask as a friendly reminder to get business out of the way first. I remember when I first started doing this, the client forgot his wallet in the car, I suggested he go get so then we can relax. I did not want to be on the end of " let me go grab my wallet and be right back" after the sesion ended and then they drive away.

 

I make sure when I do ask it's not awkward but I can't help if they feel like that especially if it's their first time. Then I just show them a good time. ;)

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[YoungBeautyMirella 5600]

It has probably been said but when a new client tries to ask you really personal questions and find out stuff about your personal life. Like asking why I am in this kind of business, because you know, Im too pretty to be doing this. lol

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

Asking for facial pictures. NO!

[50 Shades Raven 31380]

texts like this:

 

'pics plz'

my answer? see my website/page

 

'were u @ hun' at home

 

'u free now?' yes, but when you get here I may not be

 

'can you do xyz 4 abc?' see my website for rates

 

'its my birthday, do I get a discount?' show me government issued ID and I might ;-)

 

and my most favorite text of all time - (after bantering back and forth with most/all of the above and still no booking cause I'm out of your price range/or your too cheap)

'ur jst a dumbass whore, I wont use you!' (by now I have your phone number and a name you use, so I can keep it in my 'never book' file, heheheheh)

 

It doesn't take much to look at a lady's website/ad to figure out if you can 1) afford her, 2) if you like what you see enough to read through what she needs to entertain a booking.

 

I ask three simple questions, when are you looking for, which service are you interested in, how long would you like to have my companionship. How hard are those to answer?

If you can't answer those, then I can't be bothered to entertain stupid questions that are easily found as answers on my website and calendar.

And people wonder why we get upset?

 

 

Just a few turn offs, there are a lot more

[diamondduo69 100]

Cleanliness, Manners, Respect are a must !

no negotiators, no false phone numbers and address's .

[CristyCurves 169032]

Oddly enough this only happens with men on this site. They pm, even though in my ads I ask for calls, in the pm they say they want to meet, I respond with-let me know when and then I request a phone call to discuss any other details or to confirm the date, then nothing. I guess the pm button causes them to disappear, lol.

[Ice4fun 78396]

Oddly enough this only happens with men on this site. They pm, even though in my ads I ask for calls, in the pm they say they want to meet, I respond with-let me know when and then I request a phone call to discuss any other details or to confirm the date, then nothing. I guess the pm button causes them to disappear, lol.

 

Cristy... I recently sent you a PM... not for a booking because unfortunately I am not in Halifax but I am certainly apologize if that was not appropriate... I will make certain it does not happen in the future... sorry.

 

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[CristyCurves 169032]

Cristy... I recently sent you a PM... not for a booking because unfortunately I am not in Halifax but I am certainly apologize if that was not appropriate... I will make certain it does not happen in the future... sorry.

 

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NO:( so sorry if you thought that, my point or post was to those who actually ask for a date, pm saying they want to meet that day or within that week then nothing. I wasn't referring to other pm's, I welcome those. My frustration is with those who don't follow through or respond back to me.

[Ice4fun 78396]

NO:( so sorry if you thought that, my point or post was to those who actually ask for a date, pm saying they want to meet that day or within that week then nothing. I wasn't referring to other pm's, I welcome those. My frustration is with those who don't follow through or respond back to me.

 

Oh ok... I guess I misunderstood.... good last thing I want to do is piss off someone I hope to see in the future.

 

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[CristyCurves 169032]

Oh ok... I guess I misunderstood.... good last thing I want to do is piss off someone I hope to see in the future.

 

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Yes you did:).I think most of us welcome reasonable questions, or hellos, or other types of friendly pm's that are sincere.

None of the other even pisses me off anymore, as it's almost expected. However it does cause me to wonder why someone would initialize contact then disappear, just seems like a silly waste of time

[Ice4fun 78396]

Yes you did:).I think most of us welcome reasonable questions, or hellos, or other types of friendly pm's that are sincere.

None of the other even pisses me off anymore, as it's almost expected. However it does cause me to wonder why someone would initialize contact then disappear, just seems like a silly waste of time

 

I'm not sure why someone would either... if I was to guess I would say that they are probably messaging a bunch of ladies in the area and then books with only one leaving the rest hanging. Why a CERB member would do it is even more perplexing as they would have to know that this is relatively small community and word of time wasters spreads.

 

For me.... when i contact a lady about meeting I usually have done my homework and have made my decision it would be extremely rare that I would not follow through with a meeting... in the one or two instances that I can recall that happening it was related to a real feeling of no connection when we spoke but I told the lady that I was sorry but did not want to proceed.

 

Just my Opinion

 

 

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[Amber Rose 19012]

It's almost certainly been mentioned here before, but it's been happening so much lately, and it's a definite turn-off.

 

Men who see me, we have a great time together, and then afterwards try and convince me to see them off the clock later, and then try and make me feel bad when I obviously decline. I just find that disrespectful..unless the lady has explicitly discussed with you that she would like to see you in her free time, you shouldn't try and convince her to, and then shame her when she says no.

 

Nothing's more of a turn-on then a man who is respectful of the relationship you both have in the time you meet, and never makes you feel bad about it ;)

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[YoungBeautyMirella 5600]

This has probably been mentioned, but when people ask very explicit questions and when I say sorry I don't answer questions like that, and they say sorry and then they try to ask the same questions but in 'code' form but they are still explicit. Also when people call or text saying what's up? Or What u been up to today? lol

[Nicolette Vaughn 294340]

When a client has built a good rapport with an SP and she mentions something in passing to them and NOT asking for advice, please refrain from giving an opinion or a stance on the subject.

 

This certainly applies when what was mentioned which was only in passing and not up for discussion. That's when it gets awkward and makes me question ever seeing the client ever again especially when a hypocritical opinion was given.

[Emma Alexandra 123366]

Probably said before...when a client contacts you and doesn't know your name...