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Welll....I guess I will give my answer, but each SP is different a) I won't lie...I didn't get a lot of overnight booking, but a couple...Most of the time I found that the client will take you out to dinner around 6-7...I do not count this time in the time...Most of the SP say 12 hrs just as a round number...but I normally extend it to 15 hr0-ish. Supper time to breakfest time in the morning b) all inclusive? as not charging extra for greek? or CIM? for myself yes it is. I charge 1500 for overnight. 50$(my extra for greek) doesn't make a difference at this point. I would kjust like to know what the person is expecting. c) I would say yes. If I've never meet the person and I have 12 hours to do with that person....this is a fair amount of time...what if I don't get along with the person? I know some person are well reputable member and don't really have to prove that their are real...but what if it;s "hell"? I would like to at least meet the person before d) I think that most ladies would offer it...bout you would need to ask them in private chat and probably after one meeting or two. Also gentlemen... yes we do sell fantasies...time of your life that will leave you breathless...we are humans...When we sleep...some of us do snore, talk in our sleep, move a lot...It may be different then having a 2 or 3 rendez-vous

We quote our regular rates because you are providing a donation for the time we spend with you not for the activities that may or may not occur. I truly wish you luck in finding someone as I think perhaps most would charge even more for this type of encounter. Happy hunting!

I find it quite the opposite - I'm kinda shy sometimes around the beautiful ladies and can clam up on the phone, but in an email I can be much more open and forthcoming.

STEPHEN HARPER was visiting an Ontario primary school and the class was in the middle of a discussion related words and their meanings. The teacher asked Mr. Harper if he would like to lead the discussion on the word 'Tragedy'. So our illustrious leader asked the class for an example of a 'Tragedy'. A little boy stood up and offered: If my best friend, who lives on a farm, is playin' in the field and a tractor runs over him and kills him, that would be a tragedy. Incorrect, said Harper. That would be an accident. A little girl raised her hand: If a school bus carrying fifty children drove over a cliff, killing everybody inside, that would be a tragedy. 'I'm afraid not', explained Harper, that's what we would refer to as a great loss''. The room went silent. No other children volunteered. Harper searched the room. Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy? Finally, at the back of the room, little Johnny raised his hand and said: If a plane carrying you and Mr. Ignatieff and Mr. Layton and Mr. Duceppe were struck by a 'friendly fire' missile & blown to smithereens, that would be a tragedy. Fantastic, exclaimed Harper, and can you tell me why that would be a tragedy? Well, said Johnny, it has to be a tragedy, because it certainly wouldn't be a great loss, and it probably wouldn't be a fucking accident either!

Why would anyone expect a reduction in rate because they think they're handsome? Just because someone thinks that they are handsome doesn't mean they are - isn't attractiveness different for everyone? Would an obese person expect McDonalds to give them a discount? Would an amateur musician expect a discount from iTunes because they play a musical instrument? I find the fact that people expect to pay less than the next person because they think they're good looking absurd...

I have been looking at rates that some Sp's that do provide/offer 'sleep over's' through their ad's and web sites. My question's are- a) What does a SP consider the clock-on or start time for a sleep over? Is there only a certain amount of hours for a sleep over? Some say 12 hours some others do not specify any hours. b) Does the sleep over rates that are quoted in their web site or ad's all inclusive? c) Is it of paramount importance that the SP, has met the gent previously? d) Those ladies that do not advertise for a sleep over, ever consider this option? Really like some good feedback on this subject ladies. I tried searching on this subject, but to no avail. Thanks ladies.

SA. Three babes in one afternoon, good for you. Maybe in my next life..... Mercedez must be very special. I love women from the Neatherlands!

You have been posting regularly on CERB for some time, continuously dissatisfied with our rates. There are many ladies willing to satisfy your fetish, but it's unreasonable and insulting to expect us to lower our rates. Specialized fetishes are generally more work than fucking so you can actually expect us to charge you more for it. I'm not meaning to sound rude or judgmental of your fetish, but I think most ladies on this site enjoy sex more than they enjoy changing wet diapers, so your rationale that you should pay less doesn't really make sense from our point of view.

Being single and haven been for a very long time, I have to admit that I love overnights! Just like mrrnice2, I miss the cuddling, spooning, natural body heat... a) What does a SP consider the clock-on or start time for a sleep over? Is there only a certain amount of hours for a sleep over? Some say 12 hours some others do not specify any hours. My overnights are 15 hours as I find 12 hours too short. They always start with supper at a nice restaurant (or cooking together at my gentleman's home) so "the clock starts" when we get together at the agreed time. b) Does the sleep over rates that are quoted in their web site or ad's all inclusive? Speaking for myself only, my donation is always "all inclusive"; I also make sure to mention to my gentleman before a first overnight that yes, I do expect to get a few hours of sleep during that time... It's not a sex marathon lol The "marathon" can continue when we wake up and shower together before or after breakfast... c) Is it of paramount importance that the SP, has met the gent previously? Hummm, on this one, I always go with the flow. If a gentleman is interested in an overnight the first time around, I will suggest a 5 hour supper date (supper and private time). If I feel very comfortable with my gent during our time together and we both agree we would like to extend our evening and spend the night together, we do and we have a great time. In this case, I ask my gent to prepare two seperate envelopes: one containing the five hour donation and a second one with the difference for the overnight. This way he is prepared for either option and there are no mention of money.

I think that Pete and I must think alike! I would love to know the answers or opinions regarding his questions. I know, I know, this is just me, and not most guys, but know what, there would be a lot of sleeping too. I miss sleeping beside a woman and curling around her a LOT.

wonderfull! thanks :) i really like this group by the way, its the first and only one ive joined so far, so its a great idea :) thanks for starting it

And good day back to you, So, you're looking for a woman who is willing to provide you with a service. That's cool. The women here provide certain services that they charge for and they set their own rates. That's cool, too. You're asking for one of these ladies to satisfy you for a certain length of time but you're unhappy with the rates that she presents. I wonder, how would you feel if she told you that she is not happy with the service that you want filled? You might be offended. Whether you're into infant play or a good game of chess, it doesn't matter. An hour of her time is worth a certain amount of money. She determines that rate.

Completely agree Angel. Best first dates are about getting to know each other...then follow up dates are great for shared exploration and adventure. But after a few, always good to go back and share the simple things. Ie make a 10th date feel like a 1st one again. Never a bad time for a nice summer hike and picnic.

I know we might seem a bit old school, but we are not the biggest fans of emails.. I just don't find anything very personal about it. I would like to think a phone person, live.. is sooo much more interactive.. So hard to read tone and all of the things that are really important, these are lost via email. I just find so much more can be accomplished by a quick phone call on both ends for the client and the SP. Now day we are also leery about responding to emails as its easy to get IP addresses and we like to keep that to a minimum. Again it also cuts down in the cut and paste emails you get alot of as well, many guys dont realize its an agency they are dealing with as they never bother to notice its the same phone number in some of our online advertizing. WE get the same email sometimes 6 times. :prout:

The only way I can be contacted is via email or the booking form on my website, I prefer contact via email as it allows for us to get to know one another before visiting and ensure that we have some chemistry. I do not not find it time consuming, just part of everyday life. The only emails that I do not find enjoyable to reply to are the one-lined ones or the ones lacking details. Let me know a bit about you and the possibilities are endless, be secretive and/or rude and I will not reply.

I don't know what's available in Ottawa, but using day rates was the only way I saw clients when I lived in Toronto. Hotels don't advertise their day rates, but if you call and ask them, they'll give you the information. When I take a day room, I call ahead and make sure that they have rooms available and then reserve one on my credit card. I always pay cash for the room when I arrive, just like you do when you take one overnight. People use day rate rooms for all kinds of things. Someone might take a suite and use only the living room to conduct a meeting or interview candidates for a job. Once, while driving from Toronto to Vancouver, I'd been up all night with a sick child . I checked into a hotel in Winnipeg and used the room for six hours so that I could get some sleep. It's worth asking!

I know this topic has come up several times but I feel it must be addressed again. First of all, I'm a relatively new member here and came on this board with no reviews. My first step was to get to know the board, talk to people, make new friends and establish myself. It's been a gradual process and am very happy I took these steps as I now consider many on here to be friends and the mutual respect has been extraordinary. I'm not new to this business and did have the advantage of having a few references when I did join the board. However, I am very grateful to the Gents that remembered me and gave me a new start on here. It means a great deal to me and I've worked hard to establish my presence. At the same time, it was my pleasure to reassure members here that I am reputable and take the steps necessary to establish a good rapport before a meet. Now on to to the opposite end of the spectrum for the new Gentleman members. Please take the time to establish yourself on here as well. I don't think any ladies or going to see you if you cannot provide a nice introduction as a new member to be welcomed to this board. When we get a message from someone with no history or reference, we ABSOLUTELY screen. Do you expect us to just say "Oh yes, I have no clue who you are, where you have been, and you can come on over right away." This ties into yesterdays thread I know but it feels like it never ends. We are constantly bombarded with "one liners" and no mannerisms. Please refer to the "getting started" thread if communication is challenging for you. We all need to play safe and I doubt you're going to get anywhere here if you do not take the necessary steps to have a great experience on this board as well as with the ladies. Respect goes very far in this world and an absolute necessity on here as well. If not, you will not get far!

I am fairly new to the "hobby", but have found that a well worded e-mail, with a bit of information about yourself, that is polite and respectful will almost always get a positive response. I sometimes hesitate sending an e-mail post "visit" but have found when I have it is generally appreciated.

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I think of CERB as "fine dining" as opposed to the others that are more on the level of a "drive through".

If you can still perform well when you're with a woman--and particularly when you masturbate--you don't need the little blue pill (Viagra) or any of its substitutes. Don't fall into the trap of taking meds you don't need and don't try to fix what ain't broken! :icon_wink: It sounds to me like you're needing something that's not usually available from a paid companion. You might take some time to ask yourself what it is you feel you really, truly, deeply want and need from another person in your life. You don't say whether you're married or in a steady relationship, but if you are, it could be that some of your needs there aren't being fulfilled. If your partner is going through a difficult time and you're having to carry a bigger share of the load without getting a lot back from her, right now, you may be feeling emotionally drained and physically tired. If you're single, it could be that you want more non-sexual companionship as in social connection, or a relationship based on shared interests and activities. Maybe the certainty of an encounter with a paid companion is no longer what you need; dating, with all its pitfalls, uncertainties and realities can be a joyous thing in part because the outcome is not so certain. Maybe you need to know that the woman you're with is there because she wants to be with you and not because you've paid her for her time and attention. We companions often say that we're paid to go away. Maybe you want someone who might be able to stay for a long time. Maybe, for a little while, it would be better for you to get lots of good exercise, be sure to eat a healthy diet and get plenty of sleep. It's surprising how often attending to these things can improve how we feel about everything in our lives. Whatever you feel, trust that feeling and listen to your own heart. There's absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting paid companionship, or even sex, for awhile! But if it seems that you don't feel you want want anything, or that you don't find pleasure in the things that used to delight you, please do talk to your doctor. Anhedonia (the loss of joy in life) is a symptom of depression. Depression is treatable, but when it's ignored, can cause serious problems in your life and at times may become life-threatening.

Sure. How about the 11 women's groups that Harper defunded in one week's time back in June? or how about the defunding of Sister's in Spirit, a grassroots organization dedicated to raising awareness about the missing and murdered Aboriginal women in this country? or how about the government's stance on sex work? That it's not the government's "obligation" to "protect" sex workers from a "dangerous" profession of their choosing? or how about his lack of action on climate change at international meetings? shall i go on?

Geez, why does this Seinfeld episode come to mind http://www.tbs.com/video/index/0,,42958%7C%7C,00.html RG

I have received over 200 ladies at home since past three years (I am outcall only) and very few of them are dressed sexy. Mostly they wear casual especially daytime but even those minority visiting in the evening. Most wish to look like the girl next door but when you communicate with them you can simply ask them to dress casual . For example in the summer time I ask them to wear mini skirts (not casual but that is what I like)... On the driver question (I have no issue with that as I don't live in a house), but again you can ask... Past couple of weeks a driver was coming over with the girl right to my apartment (I understand if I am a first timer to check out safety of the environment but every time I call for a new girl....) so after a second time I asked for the lady to come up alone and it was gracefully accepted (and explained to me that the second time was a mistake and will not happen again). Can't help wth PSE question as I only take those who are GFE but would recommend sweet Vanessa (vansweet) who is visiting Ottawa tomorrow. But I wouldn't worry too much on the discretion side of the outcall.

I completely agree with how that ladies have responded to this thread and the gents that have gone through the "intro phase" with their experience. I like to initiate a bit of a "getting to know you process" by email to break the ice and add anticipation and seduction to an appointment. In my experience, I have chatted more with a client that may be a little shy or nervous about the encounter to let them know I'm real, down to earth, and interested in them as a person. This is where it's not just about the hour we spend with you. I know this is a different topic but thinking of another similar thread about "money." Often we will spend a few hours getting to know you and preparing so the one hour fee includes so much more. I know some do not get this and think we are there all day to just talk it up. There have been others as well, that have included a nice additional tip for these kind of services. We don't know until we meet you. I've gone from being tipped generously for my time as well as spending many hours communicating ahead with only compensation for the actual appointment. We learn with experience. I do become uncomfortable as well when clients ask personal sexual fantasies before a meet. I don't know who you are and have other things on the go as well. There are time wasters that will use this approach whether it be by pm or on chat. All the ladies I have spoken with are great people with wonderful reviews and contribute to this community with thought, respect and grace. If you take the time to look us up, read our thoughts, our contributions and get to know our personalities a bit......,,,there shouldn't be anything more that just good old ice breaking before the appointment.

If your original post was similar to a contact e-mail sent to me, I would say shorten it slightly. An introduction of yourself is nice, since I typically know nothing about you at that point. A couple questions are fine, but try not to be too overwhelming... a few important ones is better than 10 all at once. I'll remember you like kissing and stockings, but only if it's not buried in story about the time you were 18 and went off to college and met a girl and thought she was great... I personally don't mind longer e-mails, but I do find some people overdo it and would have been better off adding some information into their next e-mail. If you want a bit of back and forth, learn a little and engage the lady... that's perfectly acceptable. I would hate for someone to think I'm saying there's only one way to properly contact a lady, there are many. If you'd just like to set up the booking and leave the 'getting to know you' for when you meet, keep it simple. When you put some care and effort into writing a lady, we pick up on such and don't really care if you're not the best writer. If you're putting in an effort and not getting the response you want, it could be you're just not compatible with the lady you're thinking about seeing. We might be human and forget some things or have bad days... but I think providers like myself (and especially the ladies here) are out to give you a pleasurable time, not a hard time because you're nervous or new to escorts and didn't write the perfect first email. Avoid; Jumbled thoughts, one liners, forgetting a name, coming off demanding or rude, or being completely thoughtless. Remember; We're real people, we have different lives and preferences and we (at least most of us) want to give you an enjoyable experience... but you have to help us a bit with that part. Some of us have websites and contact forms, take advantage of these. They're a way of helping you contact us.