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If tipping is mandatory, that is called raising your rates.

I'm a little confused about the discrepancy you are talking about and perhaps it's just because I am not familiar with the situation locally. Are you comparing the net profit a lady makes at one agency against what a lady makes at another agency or are you comparing the net profit a lady makes at an agency to the gross profit an independent makes? My first thoughts would be that if there is a large discrepancy between the two competitors in pay rates for agency ladies it should be easy for ladies to leave one agency and work for another, (again correct me if I read this wrong) it sounds from your post that one agency is taking a larger % off the top so their actual rates should be comparable and going from one agency to another should be easy for the ladies forcing the owners to shape up or ship out. On the other hand if the comparison is net profit of an agency lady to gross profit of an independent then one would need to take into consideration the actual costs and time spent by an independent in running a business. Tipping is nice and I don't know a lady that doesn't appreciate it but if the ladies are not making a livable wage or getting 'market value' for their area then they need to look at how they are handling their business and what they can change, not ask the client for a gratuity.

What you are talking about is exploitation. I would suggest the ladies in a situation like this would benefit greatly from some sort of outside help. It's very important for agency ladies to remember that they do not work for an agency but rather the agency represents them, they collect the money and pay the agency not the reverse. Just like any other talent agency your agent takes a % off the top, what that percent is would depend on the amount of work you delegate to them. I've worked with an agency and I don't mind saying I make them work pretty hard, I am specific about my marketing, I have very specific requests regarding calendaring, and I like my dates screened in a certain manner so I don't mind paying a premium for that service. When I was with Garden of Eden in Toronto the owner of the agency was wonderful, she handled a lot of my travel arrangements, my scheduling & screening for dates and when I had to do photos she even went so far as to look for several photographers as I was "fussy" in regards to the first set we did. Not all agencies are like that but she would listen and respond to my individual needs. I had first right of refusal and on days when I was sick, tired or just plain grumpy she would contact my appts. and reschedule as needed. That is what an agency should do, they represent you not the reverse and anytime a lady feels she has to hand over her money, is fined for non-performance, etc. she is being exploited and a woman in that type of situation needs to be given options.

Is anyone else participating in race weekend today and tomorrow in Ottawa? I will be running the 5k!

Nice thread idea, Voyi. Here is my two cents: An amazing lover is someone who creates a safe space for me to explore my needs and desires. Like you, there needs to be a particular connection. It can be a spiritual, intellectual, and/or sporty connection (etc.). I also need my lovers to languidly explore my body. Not delicately (because pressure is good), but just in a slow and relaxed way. Sex should be an exploration. It's carnal, but there's also a lot of opportunities for growth through sex, if one is open to that possibility in that moment. Gender bending is always nice too. Sometime I'm actively submissive, sometimes, I'm more dominant... never passive.

Maybe I'm taking this the wrong way, but to be honest, saying tipping should be mandatory, doesn't sit well with me. The ladies that say tipping although not expected, is appreciated, that shows some class. I tip the ladies I see because I appreciate the time, companionship and service they provide. Not only that, I provide a gift But I do it because I WANT TO, not because it is mandatory Like I said, maybe I'm taking your post wrong, but expecting/phrasing mandatory tipping, it doesn't sit right with me, really if you want that, just up your rates. From a guy who has tipped every lady he has seen, and will do so again RG

I would hope that most guys realize that we're running a business and are seeing more than one gentlemen. If me telling you that I've got another appointment scheduled ruins things for you, I'd say you're a bit too high maintenence for my liking anyway.

I'm a little at a loss as to where the illegal aspect of this comes in. It's not clear if she was trying to hook up with him with payment in mind (maybe I missed it but I didn't see any mention of her asking for payment when she offered him sex after her shift), or if she was just honestly interested in him. We could assume this was a SP/Client solicitation, but who knows? I'm a little hazy on the laws so please, do correct me if I'm wrong, but is a dancer who honestly wants to hook up with a customer after work, with no expectation of payment, as just two consenting adults interested in having casual sex, still considered an illegal solicitation in a public place? I know it's not illegal if two people meet in a regular club, hit it off and agree to have casual sex later on that night after leaving the club. Are the laws different with a strip club? Not trying to sound flippant, I really am curious. As for the OP's dilemma, from the way you're describing the mixed signals you were getting from her, and the mention of her "man" still being in the picture, my personal opinion would be "avoid". Either way you look at it, whether she was just interested in casual sex or WAS looking for payment, this sounds like just like much more trouble and drama then you need right now. And the mention of her "man" gives the impression that this could be a potentially dangerous situation as well. My opinion, if you're looking to fill that sexual hole in your life right now but not looking for a relationship and the drama that usually comes with, is to browse the "Ottawa Female Service Providers - Schedules, Advertisements & announcements" section and the "Ottawa Recommendations" sections here. There are plenty of beautiful, wonderful women right here on cerb who can fill that hole in your sex life for you without the hassle, mixed signals and drama that this dancer seems to come with.

Decided to check Ogilvie Rd out; as someone said it's the same owner at Booth. Saw Susan, recently arrived from Toronto. Late 20s or early 30s (I think - not too good at ages) she gives an excellent massage. She did something to my feet that felt good and I think I could run in the Race Weekend now. (Where can I meet you Megan?) Nice body, can carry on a conversation in english quite well. Unlike some other asian places I've visited recently, when you book for an hour you can be assured you'll get an hour. Had about 10 mins left of my hour and Susan said "you have time left, can I massage your head". Nice. No mention of pricing, asked what I owed and she left it up to me. I'll be repeating, for sure.

That's why the sharp edge to the boys takes place a day or two ahead of time with me...touch wood, nothing nicked yet. If nicked I would contact the lady On a second note, how would Nair work for guys, or should we stick to the blade Finally, I don't brush my teeth day of the encounter, night before yes. Been told that gums can bleed after brushing, and another risk Don't worry ladies, in my case on the day when I have an encounter scheduled, I don't eat. But I use mouthwash, and mints/minty gum throughout the day. After the date is over, well then I go out grab a burger or something to eat...but no need to put either the lady or myself at risk RG

Yep, it happens. I presume your clients are canceling as a courtesy to you and for your mutual safety. For the same reasons I never shave (down there) within 48 hours of an appointment, as a precaution against any unseen microabrasions. Anyone else give this some thought or am I being too cautious? Here's another related thought... Do your clients ever cancel because they nicked themselves "up there" (their face)?

I'm like Meg. I return most emails/texts promptly... but sometimes I see an email on my phone and decide to write the reply when I get back to my computer... and because it's been ''read'' I may forget sometimes! Also on occasion an email will go for some strange reason to my spam folder when it had no good reason to go there! I would wait 48 hrs for a response and if you don't get one either text if possible or send another email. Can't hurt right?

Might be an interesting contest if an SP was thinking of having a name change to get her clients to nominate a new name... the winner could get a key fob or something :)

I think an independent can do just as well as working for an agency. The power of the review boards I get emails all the time asking about Amy(now retired) She got good reviews and got business from it. I also think the city could use a good new agency

i never ask for tips, when i did work for an agency i used to throw in a cute little "well, if u really like me, tips are always nice" but i never expect it. But when it does happen it makes my day, and ill try and do something extra special for the gentleman next time he calls. Tips are very much appreciated but, it no way are they mandatory, We set our own prices for various services and we shouldnt EXPECT or stress to get more, thats just wrong, guys dont like hidden costs, which is why i am always up front and honest when it comes to this.

hey folks not saying anything negative or nothing but just a small remark about the services i have received with the time i spent with Maxim Elite... For the whole hour of our session she was more concerned about replying back to her texted messages and receiving/answering calls and randomly yet repeatingly checking her msn on her computer :( was not to pleased with the whole situation..... i see on Escorts Canada.com she is returning in June so i felt the need to say something..... So guys or gals its just something for you to think about.... Have a good weekend.

i need to chirp in too. i do not like anyone trying to promote, encourage or ask or bbfs on cerb. If this is what you are looking for you need to look somewhere else and not cerb. if you pm a lady asking for this (or) post asking for it we will remove you from the site. you put yourself, the ladies and other members in risk and this adds to negative stereotypes and sets the inustry back. in this day and age its too risky for anyone to do and anyone seeking this out is playing russian roulette. ask yourself if someone is willing to do this then they must have nothing to loose. these days it is not about just getting knoked up... your playing with deadly sti's and the rest of us pay for your heathcare!

This will never become the NORM in my opinion. Since the beginning of time, there have always been and always will be someone out there who will do anything for money and those willing to pay to get that. Do you think that all clients secretly want to have BBFS and are just waiting for the girls to offer it and girls will feel pressured to do so to stay in business? I know plenty of gents who would not dare go there, as nor would I, so you go ahead and live in your world, and like-minded people like me can stay in our world. Additional Comments: So are you saying you have been with ladies who offer bbfs and that this is your definition of "true GFE". According to who's definition -yours? I am a "true GFE" and can assure will NEVER EVER offer bbfs. Shame on you. I can assure you that by declaring that, you are probably on most ladies Do Not See List now. Hope the rush was worth it.

I have an auto reply on my email and if you email between 7am & 3pm you will get a reply within a couple hours of your initial email. Anything received after that time will be replied to within 24hrs. if you pm me you will be directed to email as that is my preferred communication. I personally think that unless you are away or taking time off 24hrs is more than enough time to respond.

The only reason I give a week before a follow up email, and if no response to that then a text is because sometime computers (or email accounts, sometimes they go down too) can be nasty SOB's crashing at the wrong (well there never is a right) time I figure two emails within two weeks followed by a text is reasonable, and takes into account the sh*t happens factor RG

12-24 hours is my general rule. As a hobbiest if I had to wait longer I might feel a lady is disorganized or uncaring towards her clients if he has to wait longer. If someone is interested and wants information it would seem rude to keep him wondering for two or three days.

This is an important point. I don't require kissing as part of my GFE just as I don't particularly care for a BBBJ either. Meaning, even as one client would give a pass on the SP, another (like myself) would be interested in seeing her. In short, there is a client for every service and the SP determines what are the services provided.

Let's take a moment here....if someone is so new to the business and they join cerb and find out that another lady has the name they wish to use and she is well respected and adored, she should change her name instead of trying to be someone she is not. Lets face it, you can google baby name and get 5000 in a matter of 20seconds. In this day and age "WE" as adults should be mature enough to establish our own selves instead of ridding on someone else good graces. Men see a name, they assume it is the lady they are seeking, they book an apppointment and end up feeling mislead. Why do I say this, as it gets REALLY confusing in a smaller city or smaller provinces when more than one lady has the same name. There really is NO need for this.... Yes I am aware that there is more than one Emily out there, I am more than fine with that when they handle themselves with class and grace. What I would not be ok with would be a new Emily pm'ing other ladies telling them they have a "nice ass" or "their hot" as that is just so cheap and demeaning in a pm with no other context to the message. Plus when myself and the new Emily are from complete opposite ends of the spectrum it does confuse clients(lets face it some times one fails to read the entire ad (men & women alike)). I worked hard to establish myself and other "new" ladies as you chose to refer to themselves as should do the same. This post was not about me, I am referring to me as to not upset any other adults on this board. There are many of us who will help out a new lady, providing that she does not have a pimp or other issues. Angela stated it correctly with if you googke the name you wish to use and escort it comes up pretty quickly if the name you picked is a very well established one.