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The first thing I thought of when I saw this thread was this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv343ai0EfA The second thing I thought was, you guys aren't the only ones who get shy. ;) Call it shyness, performance anxiety, or stage fright- all of a sudden you find yourself faced with this other dynamic, real, and very 3D human being- things were easy on paper (on screen, over the phone), but this is rather different. Will we click? Is my sense of humour too wacky? Is my timing all wrong? I have these thoughts too! But that's what I find exciting. Left alone with an unknown variable, what kind of fun can we dream up? You mention 'form'. But is there not something quite exciting about the formlessness and novelty of a new relationship? (And it is a relationship.) What will they say next? What shall I respond? To me, form implies predictability. You're hoping for a certain standard of 'performance', I gather. But is it really so terrible if you don't meet those expectations? It provides the opportunity to come up with something new. Chemistry will always be unknown before the first meeting. All we can do is give it our best effort and hope our partner will be able to meet us where we're at. Sometimes it may take a few attempts before we really get into a groove that gets us both going. This is a natural process. Shyness is just uncertainty. And I think uncertainty can hold a lot of promise.

I feel the need to start this thread, due to the lack of respect and attention to following simple instructions lately. Ive worded this in reference to no one, just a generalization to a few things. You contact me, we go through screening and agree on the date and time. You are told you will be contacted a few days prior with details to confirm. 3 days prior you are emailed with detailed instructions with a number and a date and time frame to call and confirm on. Scenarios as follows: Scenario A) You don't call within time frame - Encounter is cancelled and time is available Scenario B) You email letting me know you cant call within that time and we agree on another time in which you don't call - Same result as above - encounter cancelled. Scenario C) You call and confirm and encounter goes ahead as planned Scenario D) You email the morning of to ask if we are still on, yet I never heard from you - What do you think the answer to this question is? Scenario E) You leave a voice mail with we emailed and Im calling no name, number or anything else in the message - Chances are the encounter will be cancelled as its very rude to call a number back and say Who's this? And Ive asked you to call me, for discretion I would rather not return the call unless I have been given the ok to do so. We have a system in place that works for our own personal business, if you dont wish to follow instructions, dont waste our time. I value your time and respect your wishes on privacy, discretion and everything else. If you value mine, why does one feel its okay to not follow the simple instructions that I have given. I can be flexible with my confirmation policy when you let me know in advance. I ask you to call as that is how I confirm my dates, I wont email or text you any details so you have to call (my confirmation email is very clear on this), at this point if you don't like this policy it is your time to say that you are declining our date, I wont get mad as I would prefer your honesty over wasting my time and that of someone else who would have enjoyed the visit, but due to the games someone else has played they were unable to visit. When I ask you to call when your parking - I MEAN it, dont call from the lobby if I have asked you not too(considering discretion is SO important, why does the fact that your calling from in front of the hotel staff and repeating the suite number aloud not strike you as indiscreet?) Just because im not a revolving door, does not mean I want attention drawn to myself at any time. I enjoy the places I stay and wish to keep it that way. I also enjoy the company that I keep and NEVER want to jeopardize anyones privacy ever. You provide me your number and ask me not to call, I follow your instructions so how hard is it to show the same respect to mine. For an industry where discretion is key, I am just astounded as to why it is expected from me, but not returned by you.

I typically take the time to reflect before many things I do ... to settle the mind and focus and set the intention for a positive outcome. What are providers thoughts about meditating for a few minutes together at the start of session and doing some resolutions for a happy/positive experience r100rs

I DON'T like RG because he is a mean son of a #$#%#....nasty nasty fella !!! He picks on innocent people like me and he is a travelling man so we can't track the facker down. I am cheap and easy and damn proud of it :) Wait this is the "I like thread"....I like RG because he is sharp as a tack, funny as hell, always there to help people, like Katherine, he agreed with her instantly that Lee is cheap and easy. Awesome RG !!!

Well Katherine this meditation stuff is all new to me So lets see... I will pray.."Please God, let Katerine be naked" ..... then you will get naked as fast as you can :) then I will sing "I am too Sexy for my clothes" then I will get naked as fast as I can :) .... then you will perform a sexy skit for me ;)....then we hit the sheets and a lot of moaning and meditation will take place !!! That in the ballpark or am I a way offbase ????

OH totally forgot... when a man smirk. oh.my.god. *puddles and squirt everywhere*

Eyes, lips and either a beautiful bright smile or a seductive smile are immediate attractions and turnons for me. I love curves !! and all shapes and sizes so hard for me to narrow down anything else .... other than I love a yummy ass in nice fittin blue jeans ;)

Fun was being in there with a hottie while she is bent over looking at me from between her legs while on the old stool......she grins and asks "do you remember me?".....I was taken back.....she stood up...turned around...turns out we went to school together for a couple of years....hahaha.......amazing who you meat in those rooms Posted via Mobile Device

I am a regular meditator and I'd love to do this with clients to build connection to source which of course is the giver of all life and beautiful things. I think its up to each indivudal's comfort level, some would be totally wierded out and others would embrace it. I attract quite a number of people that are interested in spirit, source etc so I don't think it would be hard for me to work in. For those not interested there are many ways to begin, we all have our unique ideas and as long as we respect each other we can start by singing, doing a short skit or just get naked as fast as we can! :icon_wink:

Samantha, You always have lovely things to say. :smile:

Early on in the MA experiences..... Poured lotion down the ass crack and well.....best described as sliding her fore arm from elbow to wrist between the cheeks like a tit fuck.....then proceeded to prostrate explore....damn...gotto go back Posted via Mobile Device

Cocky Cupid- has Come- and Spread Some Sweet V-day Heat..... But.... he left this morning...... HA! ;) Have a Sexxxy Day.......Whatever Sexy is to you. P.S.Today I have a rare, much needed- clothing optional Date- allllllllll day and night.....With Matt. So Amazing. Irresistible. Inviting. Huge. Warm. Always Tempting. Dare I say-Better then most sex.... and Sooooo Soft. yep. Matt Ress. Here comes My Deep-Sleep love- My ever so patiently waiting Mattress. Hahaha. ;) :) ;) :) XoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXoXo

This is not something that I've ever done before in a session, but I meditate sometimes in my personal life, and I can see how it could be beneficial. It's easy to get caught up in our expectations, observations, conversations, etc. So much goes on in a session- not just physical and verbal interactions with each other but our own mental dialogues with ourselves. To just take the time to sit together and meditate, and to sweep away the mental clutter would be lovely. I'd like to try that one day. I would definitely be open to meditation if a client suggested it- however, I'm not sure if I would offer it myself. I don't meditate nearly as often as I'd like and I don't feel qualified to lead a meditation. On the other hand, that might be an incentive to really commit to my personal practice! Definitely something to consider.

Sometimes it depends how you like to meditate. With some ladies we just do a slow dance shuffling about the room, nothing much said, just getting a feel for each other, figuratively and literally.

That shyness, or erotic apprehension, can be a lovely thing, for me. It's a reminder that we're real people who honestly don't know each other well, have no idea what to expect, hope to enjoy one another, are aware of the things that may go wrong or at least not happen exactly as anticipated, and who know that pleasure and delight are too often fleeting, ephemeral things. It's my experience that the gentlemen who are not at all hesitant or who seem to feel completely in control from first contact are rarely ideal clients for me. Encounters with such men are more likely to be a disappointment in some way. I imagine that they're overly invested in a fantasy about themselves or me and may not be able to shift from that to the reality of two real people who may not perform according to plan. The ones who are a bit shy and cautious tend to be terrific because they're not taking themselves or me for granted. While the whole engagement sometimes has strong fantasy elements, I feel that we're both real people having a real encounter.

Valentine's Day is everyday for me....I just love everyone everday :) Spread the love BABY xo

Never done this. An intriguing idea, but I think that is going to be very dependent on "Chemistry" and the maturity of the lady. For instance, I would consider this difficult to do with a bubbly 21 year old that is chewing gum and twirling her hair around while she is talking to me. (smile)

hmmm where to start. I agree that you don't need official designated days to recognize the loved ones in your life (Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Family Day ....) but I do love taking the time, buying the mushy card and setting aside the day to cherish loved ones. I find that life is sooo busy and goes by so fast that if I did not have these days in my calendar I might not take the time to cook a special meal for my mom, or take my dad fishing, or spend time with my family. Right now it is the expression and excitement in my 8 year old daughter that makes these days special. To see her face on Christmas or watch her make homemade Valentines cards for the kids in her class or best when she comes home and gives me the card that she spent all afternoon making - melts my heart. Ya, the stores and malls are full of crap and they want to sell you stuff but it is those special moments that make the days. I have had my ups and downs, divorce, death in family etc so I have come to realize life is short and you should enjoy life to the fullest as best you can!

Cerb is no place for racism. This is exactly what was said about my great great grandfather's irish peers when they arrived in this country some 160 years ago. r100rs

Christycureves recently had a thread post about men's packages and the concensus was that was not appropriate. The conclusion that we should not do that is a good one, however, it seems to me that Christycurve's intent was to have some fun, and that is never a bad idea. That got me thinking about my days in junior high, a way, way, way, way long time ago when we had a Sadie Hawkin's day dance. That concept comes from the Lil'Abner comic strip that has been gone for eons. The concept is that for Sadie Hawkins day dance things get reversed and the girls ask the guys to the dance. In the Lil Abner comic strip, there was a Sadie Hawkins day race, whereby the bachelors started running, the spinsters chased them and could marry any bachelor they are able to catch. Sadie Hawkins day, I think was the last day in February. So what is this all about? I will warn you now this could be a stupid idea. On Cerb the girls advertise to entice the guys, right?. What if on the last week of February we reverse things and have the guys post mock ads about themselves, or what a date with them would be like. The ladies would somehow rate the ads and there would be a winner at the end of the week. Some of you smart Cerbies could come with the specific rules for such a contest and a rating system. (See I warned you this could be stupid) What do you think? Would this have legs? Any ideas as to how it would work? I have no ego so if you think this is stupid please say so. (PS Am I the only one amongst us that remembers Lil Abner?)

Now how in the hell did I miss these posts?? Yes yes I have gone Indy WIT !! Unfortunately no action yet but I am a patient man ;) Now MrNice2.....you have no proof of any bait and switch !!! Are you hearing things in the private FB BBM only chat area ??

An East Coast Delight On Sadie Hawkins Day, February 29th, 2012 I am providing a one time encounter opportunity that will be available to only the most discriminating of women. An evening spent in my company includes a selection of gourmet delights, each deliberately selected with the purpose of stimulating both the palate and the senses. Your visual, auditory, olfactory, tactile and oral senses will all be pushed to their limits and ultimately result in an evening that one will look back upon with a sense of having experienced an ultimate surrender to the power of seduction. Conversation will covers a myriad of subjects, from the ethereal to the sublime, with an underlying nature that hints at the promise of erotic exploration and carnal delight to come. My private and discrete location features a fireplace with a bearskin rug, delightful floral arrangements , tasteful works of art, subdued lighting, and a selection of only the finest of wines, all of which together will create an atmosphere that will cause your mind to wander to thoughts of erotic anticipation. Buttons and ties will magically be loosened, as lips taste and explore your soft skin as it is unveiled. My ability to caress with an ever so light touch, to massage slowly and intimately as if it were almost in ones imagination will cause you to arch, to demand. Seeking the experience of a lifetime? Look no further. Contact by PM please with references and a personal introduction. There are very few February 29ths in ones lifetime. Let this be one that shall stay in your closet of memories forever. With great anticipation.........MN2

Gents there are girls, women, ladies and courtesans. Gabby is a courtesan through and through. Our meeting together was mutually (I think ;) pleasurable and way too short. Not much more to add than what has already been written by far more articulate reviewers than myself. She did mention that she was having a few last minute cancellations, which is an incredibly discourteous and rude way to treat anyone, much less Gabby.

Valentines day is wayyyy too overrated. It is valentines day for me when I can feel my heart race in the presence somebody that feels the same way about being with me. Erotic Emely you have expressed all my sentiments about Valentines Day!!!! You are my new Hero!!!

Lived with an abusive alcholic woman for 14 years. She would pound the crap out of me, cheat, steal. I stayed for my son, I was afraid for him. I finally left when he was 10 after catching her smoking crack in the bathroom while he was watching cartoons. I was awarded custody and raised him myself. She's pretty much homeless now, doesn't bother with him at all, was given numerous oportunies but always stood him up. Now, he has a good job, is 18 almost dome school and going to colledge. I'm proud of him and myself, but am dreading the day I get the call that she's dead, then that will replace this story as the hardest thing I've ever had to do, telling him.

I went home this weekend for a chance to spend time with my children, my mom, my brothers and their families only to be informed that my brother's nephew had taken his own life the day of my arrival. It's sad, a young man troubled by the dissolution of his own family, the loss of his mother to cancer, his battles with chemical demons and moreover his battles with his own sexual identity... it was too much for a 26 year old to take. No one will sing a song in his honour tonight for the public to consume and in time, memories of this troubled young man will fade. Just a kid that couldn't handle what life had to offer.

Yes my dear, please be aware your overhead will increase substantially. I've never worked for an agency because the independence of this career choice is one of the main reasons why I'm here. But it definitely takes money to make money by yourself. :)

You can certainly base your rate on the amount the agency charged the clients they booked. Consider the client is already paying that rate, so it does not necessarily mean that when you go indy, and the same client or type of client comes to see you, that your rate needs to drop. You mention something about services, but I am not sure if that means you will now be providing more (riskier?) services than when working with the agency. Even if you are now planning to work with more restrictions, (free of the agency requirements?) you can still assume the agency rate charged works for you, your type, your location. You can adjust it slightly upwards if there will be fewer restrictions or remain the same, and you can adjust it downwards slightly if there are more ($25 less per hour?) Re: duos, you simply charge your fee plus her fee. There is no double discount for duos. re: rates in general, it doesn't hurt to view a lot of ads and a lot of websites, find your similarities and differences with other sps, and base your rates accordingly. There are certain conditions where super low rates do not benefit you at all, and there are some instances where super high rates are not appropriate either even if you think you are comparable to a very high end sp. As mentioned there are a lot of things to factor into rates. It isn't necessary to drop the rate too far from the agency rate simply because you are accustomed to providing at your lower amount (your portion of the total fee). It isn't necessarily better for you to charge a rate that is that amount plus 50 for example if the agency rate was that amount plus 100. It seems better to you because you may see it as earning more than you did before, but you are going to incur a lot of expenses now that you are indy that you did not have before.

All I have say about curves is that it takes skill to properly maneuver without injury. Don't diss the curves. Learn the skills.

Hi Aubrey, Setting your rate is really a personal choice. You need to determine what you /need/ to make a month, what you /want/ to make for a call, as well as taking into consideration the going market rate for your area! I hope you figure it out!

I could not disagree more. I did not realize that being a size 12 was so disgusting. :handjob:

I feel so much compassion for those who have shared their stories in this thread. So many of these trials are difficult for me to imagine. But what I do understand is that we all struggle. Everyone knows pain. Everyone could tell a sad story. I think the act of sharing these is very powerful. My pain has been largely internally generated. One of the hardest but best things I ever did for myself was to admit that I was struggling with mental illness. You could call my particular demons depression and anxiety. I had to, and continue to have to reassure myself that this doesn't mean I'm weak or pathetic, and to fight the messages my brain is sending me- self destructive thoughts I no longer believe, but that I generate anyway. Fighting mental illness- like most other illnesses- is incredibly exhausting. It can feel like your brain is against you, when logic tells you one thing but your emotions are louder. It's hard but necessary work. Even now I hesitate to post this, but I'm telling myself that my story is important too. Partly it's the fear of stigma around mental illness. Many people do take it as a sign that you are broken or damaged somehow. But the silence and shame around this issue is part of what makes it so much harder for people experiencing mental illness to seek help. 1 in 5 Canadians will experience mental illness in their lifetime. That's not small potatoes. It's important for me understand that even though I sometimes go through bouts of feeling like hell, I'm still a complete person. Someone worth knowing, with fabulous insights and exuberance and love to share. This particular kind of trial doesn't define me. I am much more than my pain. I wanted to share this for the others on this board who have similar experiences. Because sometimes it's incredibly hard to move forward and face your pain when shame and fear of appearing weak confounds your already confounded brain. But mental illness doesn't make you weak, and the process of healing can make you understand how incredibly strong you really are. This thread humbles me. It reminds me of exactly how much moxie us humans can conjure when we need to. Much love and thanks to everyone who has shared- and to those who have not, as well.

I love the chat room. My goal is to meet as many members as possible and get to know what makes them tic! You will never see me solicit, you will never see me harass, you will never see me go outside the boundaries. I have no problem answering questions about myself, my services etc... but... I expect in return.... Do not ask me to show my face nor any nudity on cam and if my cam is not on, it's for a reason. Do not request a private chat in order to get online sex talk. Do not try to negotiate with me based on what you believe to be a lesser service. Do not ask me for more pics...I do have albums, don't be so lazy. Sorry if anyone feels that I have disrespected them. In the open chat we all have a fab time but there are limits. I love private chat until it becomes apparent that someone is just using me for jerk off material. Please keep chat the fun place that it is! Today at lunch time it was an absolute blast!!!!

the diary is gone again it seems. What gives?