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I'm only going to add a short two cents to this thread, I'm not taking part in the poll because I think its encouraging another statistic of "oh look, x amount of girls are offerring x service" and "only x are offering this" so the lower amount of girls who arent offering x service should catch up to those that are. potatoe, potatah-toe....lets live and let live. if you want a specific service, ask for it like a gentleman, if the lady doesnt offer it (and if thats a real deal breaker for you...tisk) then dont see her but getting us all to make a new statistic based on a poll about what the new Cerb.ca supposed "norm" is? Depending on the outcome, its not helping anyone (psst!..mainly us!) and...well....bah I'm not even gonna finish that cuz i think you know where I'm going with this....

Meg, I love to linger in the afterglow, chat and smooch while softly running my fingertips over all the ladies curves. It's a beautiful moment if the connection between the SP and client is right.

... and the moral of the story is, whatever way you get em, a blowjob is a great thing. amen.

Gonorrhea is the second most-commonly diagnosed STI in North America. It has been treated with antibiotics, but has been growing resistant for 70 years. In the 1940s, sulfa drugs stopped being effective. In the 1970s, so did penicillins; tetracyclines lost effectiveness in the 1980s. In 2007, fluroquinolone drugs also stopped working. In August, the US Center for Disease Control announced that oral cephalosporins were no longer recommended for treating gonorrhea. The CDC issued new treatment guidelines for gonorrhea recommending a multiple antibiotic regime. In January, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that the one remaining drug that had been effective, Cefixime, was not effective in a number of cases identified in Toronto. An additional article in the same issue of the JAMA noted that there are no other treatment options available. Gonorrhea can live happily in a human throat, undetected. Anyone who has gonorrhea is at increased risk of infection if they come in contact with HIV/AIDS.

Sorry, but I'm never pushy, and I always think with my head on my shoulders at all times with a lady, and always act like a complete gentleman. Please don't lump me in with "we as men can be pushy" Thanks.

Well I take pity on my fellow CERB-ites and only post this on one of the three threads. This argument is getting tiresome, and not just this particular time. It seems we keep going down the same path, having the same arguments over and over again. I just spent about 2 minutes with this wonderful feature we have on this site called "search" (something that some of you should seriously try using some time) and here are just four threads of many on the topic. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71451&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34872&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=20951&highlight=transmission http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16380&highlight=transmission This time though we have three active threads with the same people posting on all three of them, and rarely providing any new information and insight that is not already on this board. First someone hijacked a thread on BBFS to rant about the perils of BBBJ. Then an SP put up a poll with a set of questions that although well-meaning just made things more complicated. Believe it or not folks there is a science to writing polls to gather data properly. Then a hobbiest in attempt to clarify things posted an SP only poll with the same sort of problematic questions. The we have people cross-posting links irrelevant to the discussion on multiple threads. A serious breach of netiquette on any board. What angers me the most is that these arguments are not being made in the interest of health and safety, they are being made because some people feel they have an economic interest at stake. Case in point, an SP on here last night posting about how she felt that to keep her financial well being she had to offer BBBJ. The word being thrown around is coercion, which is pretty strong. It generally implies some sort of duress being applied. I don't think that a hobbiest choosing to see an SP who does BBBJ instead of CBJ is really duress. Particularly since the anecdotal evidence on these threads is that for the vast majority of the hobbiests it has no bearing. I am not going searching for facts, and transmission rates as someone on here has suggested. There is no need. A lot of what we do in this hobby has risks. Condoms are not 100% effective. I am not going to cite the failure rate here and have people shoot at my statistics, look it up. The point is that they break, slip off, and do not prevent all diseases, particularly herpes, warts and even HPV. (and I could add non-STI infections as well) And if you are going to look it up then Wikipedia and Ask.com may be a good place to start, but do us all a favour and try and find some primary sources. Dig deeper, and look at several sources, because there are a lot of different facts and statistics out there depending on who is presenting them. A lot of people on the internet have their own agenda. (surprise surprise) The fact of the matter is that this hobby is full of risks, and not just from STI's. The only safe way to avoid these risks is not to have sex or contact with another human at all. I don't think many of us would want to do that. How a person handles these risks, mitigates them, protects themselves and their partners is what is important. Is there a risk with BBBJ, yes there is. But there is also a demand for it, and not just from the hobbiests. I know many SP's who really don't like sucking on a latex condom. That is their choice. They know the risks. Is BBBJ the only risky thing we do in this hobby? Not by a long shot. My final word is this. Wanting to have a BBBJ or a CBJ is a personal choice. Wanting to provide either is also a personal choice. If you choose not to provide that service then live with your decision. If someone else makes a different choice it is none of your business. You can say it is coercion, but I would also say that trying to use peer-pressure on a board like this to try and convince your competition to do something different is also coercion. To the mod(s) as I have shown here we have debated this thread ad nauseum over the years, and nothing really new has been added to the mix. We now have 3 similar threads. Can we at least merge them, if you are not going to lock them?

Why is it that when I go to the grocery store with only a few small things on my list, I always leave with $300 worth of groceries?

>Why is it that none of the major holidays are celebrated with naked lasciviousness rather than chocolate confections? Yes we need a bacchanalian festival. Why is it that people who care enough about their health to drink water in a water bottle, care so little about the health of the environment to leave the plastic bottle behind in the park.

In my experience Claire Heavens works really well as a Viagra substitute. :) No need of anything like that when you're around her.....

As Duke says it..., To start just look.., are they posting their adds in the Massage only Section or in the Full Service Provider/ escort section... Also very important..., if you find yourself interested in a lady, read her profile, if the lady has her own website, read thatbone too...., inform yourself..., If after reading you still have any doubts as to what services she offers..., contact her directly, and ask pertinent questions... As whiteman said COMUNICATION IS THE KEY! We are here to answer your questions but make sure you read so you dont ask questions which answers are already in her profile or website :-) or at least try to avoid them :-) MODS alrwady have a busy time, i think we can all just do a little research on our own.., its really not that hard! :-)

I don't mind talking about this openly, Peachy. When I started to work, no one ever inquired about BBBJs before meeting me and I was never urged to forgo the condom when the meeting was underway. The gentlemen I saw and I might occasionally make a wry comment about it being a shame that the condom was necessary, but there was no manipulation involved. I don't think that my clients would have been happy if I'd suggested going ahead without the cover. By contrast, in my personal life, some of the men I dated were initially surprised when I reached for a condom before we were ready to have intercourse. They weren't offended; they simply didn't have any idea that oral sex might be a concern for either of us. They'd always had uncovered oral sex. That was over a decade ago. I've always worked independently and I've always done my own screening. I've generally been a low-volume companion, but even when I entertained more often, using condoms wasn't an issue for the first few years. Many things changed when I moved to Vancouver about five years ago. I needed to build a new client base, so I saw more people for quite awhile. I didn't have a website until I moved here. I advertised in print. In Toronto, I nearly always worked from hotels, but in Vancouver I've only done that a handful of times, though I do make outcall visits fairly often. I have more American clients, here, probably because we're much closer to the border and because many people travel up and down the coast all the time. I have clients from Ontario who come to Vancouver on business periodically, including two of my original clients. I have never offered BBBJs and have always made it clear in my advertising, phone conversations and e-mail that I will use condoms for everything. This began to be a deal-breaker for many prospective clients, which surprised me. Syphilis has been common in Vancouver for a very long time, was classified as an epidemic in the mid-1990s and has only recently begun to decline. The strains of syphilis, here, are notable for producing no symptoms in most people who contract it, which is one reason it spreads so easily. I no longer see anyone under 40 because I don't need to. I received considerable pressure not to use condoms for oral from younger, unmarried men. A lot of them declined to meet me, which was fine. But many of them tried to re-negotiate things after we were together in person, using the heat of the moment as an excuse, or stressing that they were "obviously clean". A rare few decided to leave instead of carrying on with the meeting. Some tried to bully me into giving refunds and one of them became very angry when I refused. The worst was a 36 year-old man who had made a couple of wry comments about the condom. Instead of having me on top of him, he wanted me on all fours. When I reached around to guide him, I found he'd taken the condom off. He laughed, "Oh, oh. You caught me!" I went ballistic. He left when I picked up the telephone. Most of my clients now are between the ages of 58 and 75. I love my regular visitors, but the prospective and first-time clients often challenge my restrictions. I don't take same-day or last-minute meetings. The combination of my screening process and my availability means that it can take anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks to meet me in person. I'm willing to exchange a lot of e-mail and have short phone conversations in the meantime. By the time my guest and I actually lay eyes on each other, we've established what I feel is a good rapport. (If we haven't, I will decline to meet.) After all of that, it's unsettling when some new visitors claim to be surprised that I won't compromise about condoms for oral sex. They often say that they didn't think I'd really meant what I'd written or said on the phone, or that they were sure I'd change my mind once we met in person. Two have brought printouts of what they said were their STI test results to use as last-minute bargaining tools. I've heard long stories about loss of sensation, about condoms being too small or too tight (even after I've unrolled one over my hand and up my forearm). I've heard about erectile problems and ejaculatory difficulties they attribute to condoms. Twice I've had clients turn a playful spanking into something that was definitely punishing because I'd used a condom on them for oral, to completion. For one of them, the spanking was pay-back. The other really thought I'd give in for the second round. (That round didn't happen!) The only people who have ever tried to talk me into BBFS have been older men. They've said that they've had vasectomies or that I'm the only woman they will have been with other than their wives. One said he had no children because of a low sperm count. Another said I could trust him because he's a physician. A couple of years ago, I saw one man who made a fuss about condoms and even asked to remove it while we were having intercourse. He contacted me recently, certain that we could work things out now that time had passed. I told him I hadn't changed my restrictions. He said he didn't expect that I would. He paid my social rate to take me out for lunch. At the end of the meeting, he was shocked when I still refused to consider meeting with him without condoms. A few days ago, a fellow I've seen four times offered a significant monthly retainer if I would agree to BBFS. He wanted to be a boyfriend who gives me money and looks the other way if I entertain anyone else. But he also travels extensively in Asia and India, where he delights in the opportunities he has for female companionship, often at very low rates. A few visitors have told me on their way out of the door or later, in e-mail, that the engagement was wonderful but, regretfully, they won't re-book because of the condom. I want to be very clear, though, that, while I do feel pressured and subjected to various kinds of manipulation, I am not worried about going out of business. Most of my clientele are regulars. I'm doing well in my corner of the profession. I don't have qualms about the choices I've made. But it has taken me quite awhile to get to be in my position and I recognize that I am where I am because of simple, plain, good luck as well as because of the way I run my business.

I just want to wish everyone a very Happy Easter! Just getting ready to head off to the airport in bit for a few days back home in England with my son and family. Hope everyone has a great long weekend and I will talk to you all next week! Cheers, Spud

http://www.123greetings.com/events/easter/happy_easter/easter_pooch_concert_fun_song.html happy easter - I hope everyone has a happy and fun weekend and I hope this card makes you laugh as much as it made me

Ever have one of those weeks where the tech fubar gremlin is sitting on your shoulder, blowing in your ear and whispering sweet nothings? When this fellow gets horny, I always end up getting fucked.

I love KCC (kissing, cuddling, conversation) Meg And it is a pleasurable intimate activity in it's own right, as enjoyable as sexual intercourse IMHO RG

It's a bit of a sticky wicket. There are lots of members on the board that partake in all three avenues of the industry - full service providers, massage and strip clubs - and therein lies the problem. CERB provides a venue for so many things that naturally some confusion is bound to occur. An educated consumer will be able to identify the area in which he or she is interested and pursue that course of action. CERB does have areas that are SP specific, MP specific and SC specific. On top of that, each member and provider has the ability to identify themselves within their profile as to which stream they belong - so the client can, at the click of a mouse, discover the nature of service that he or she may expect to receive. We truly benefit from being an inclusive community. The discussions span a wide range of topics and often they are specifically introduced to touch on subjects upon which anyone can comment. That is the beauty of a pan-industry board - each of us can contribute and those contributions, whether serious or silly, can enhance the experience for each and every one of us. The creation of a separate board would also reduce the potential consumer base. As has been stated before, your client may not be just a massage client. He may be a massage and full service client that frequents the clubs from time to time. He may just be a full service client but is intrigued by a massage provider enough that he may pursue your services in a massage environment; conversely, he may be a massage client that wishes to see a full service provider. The blended board environment fosters that cross market traffic. It's not perfect for everyone but what we have is good... and you don't want to mess with a good thing.

Why is it that when I open a bag of chips or cookies I can't eat just one I have to finish the whole bag.

Hey there... If your looking for some sweet attention or affection ill be sure to satisfy you 100% with pleasure... I give a very good massage and I offer slippery/sexy body slides...I am super easy to talk to and have an extremely bubbly personality. Come enjoy my tight body and beautiful assets, while I make you feel relaxed, turned on and glad you came.... I work at Paradise Spa, located in the west end of Ottawa... It is an upscale, classy and discrete spa with showers in every room... The rooms also include large mirrors, music and black lights to intensify your sensual experience... In calls only please Available until 4pm today Call 613-820-8887 to book an appointment XOXOX

Intelligence, someone who makes me laugh and a big heart! On first sight...his smile!

For years at a strictly superficial level I was an ardent "ass man" and could not help myself from checking out ladies out. I didn't have a specific preference for any size shape, if she had an ass I checked her out LOL. Although, I still do have an appriciation for all things ass the first thing I notice over that past few years is eye's. Specificly, eyes that convey a depth and kindness and a raw smoldering sensuality. Those eyes will turn me to putty. Finally, if I just see a lady from a distance and not up close its always ladies that have an air of elegance about them that catch my eye. Elegance in the sence that she carries herself with poise, confidence and a general well put togetherness.

Interesting thought... soon to be muddied by my incoherent delivery. When I was young it was three B's ... BIG BOOBED BLONDES.... and for a few decades, those were the parameters under which I operated. Now... as I reach the Jurassic epoch of my life, I find my tastes are far more fluid. My tastes tend to weigh more on inclusiveness rather than exclusivity; I am attracted to far more women now than I ever was before. Initial attraction can be to any number of things but now I find that the more I look, the more I see; the more I see, the greater the attraction. It's probably not as specific as you would like as an answer, but as I tried to qualify a response with specifics, it dawned on me that some of the women that I love dearly in this world and the one beyond don't fit in any of the tiny boxes I tried to construct. I told ya it was going to be incoherent.

Love is so enormously important. At its strongest it promises that you can transcend that fundamental human barrier: "maybe I'm not alone after all." When romantic love is at its height, it's almost supernatural in its intensity and its power to transform our sense of who we are. Finding That Person feels like it's part of the awesome clockwork of the universe. "I've finally found my soul mate! She completes Me!" But over time, you realize... that's an illusion. She's just a human being, not the answer to the puzzle that is You. You MADE her into that ridiculously superhuman creature in your own mind. In the end yes, you care about each other, but she's not there by Fate. Same with that overwhelming supernatural bond with children. "He's my perfect little darling baby! His love is absolute and unconditional! It's the wonder of reproduction! This completes Me!" ... until you discover that no, your child is actually a separate human being with his/her own ambitions, not just an extension of your own ego. You might wake up one morning to the sad discovery the the kid you thought was so wonderful is actually just another asshole, and you need to keep your distance. Both of those feelings of love are overwhelming and wonderful while they last. You'd do ANYTHING for your girlfriend/boyfriend/son/daughter. But... that's just your reproductive faculties speaking. If you don't recover from the spell and get some perspective, then the object of your love can seize on that unquestioned commitment and manipulate you to your ruin. Your husband can treat you like crap or fritter away everything you own, but you'll stay because it's Fate and he's The One. Your kid can steal your car and rape and murder, but you'll mortgage your house and burn your savings for Him or Her because S/he is EVERYTHING to you. It's madness. It's your genes talking, and your genes are mindless idiots. That said... I'm realistic but NOT cynical about love. I think it's fantastic and one of the most valuable and constructive emotions we have. Because we're NOT alone. Granted, that supernatural sense of transcendent connection is an illusion, but there is SOME connection with the people who do love you back, and that's critical. In the end, love and its outcome is exactly what you make of it through your decisions and your actions. Be devoted to the people who care about you and who have proven themselves reliable. Do for them, as they do for you. Build a family, not based on shared genes or what you said 20 years ago in front of a priest, but with the people who year after year have proven themselves worthy of your commitment and devotion. Don't live in solitude; it wastes the best part of being human. And love is the glue that keeps such human allies together. "Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried, Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel." (Oh, and dogs too. Naturally they're honorary human beings. But you knew that.)

I like gentlemen who are kind, thoughtful, gentlemen of all shapes and sizes and income brackets . Those who appreciate a woman and all she encompasses, the whole package. Those gentlemen who take your feelings into account, who see beyond the exterior and want to experience you not just as an object but as a human being, those who don't seek perfection but want to help you be better. Those who are aware that we try hard to please them and are thankful for us and are aware that we sometimes make mistakes and forgive us for them. Thatsmy type.

Nothing, but I suspect many people, like myself, do not have a particularly large budget to pour into this hobby, which is not a cheap hobby to begin with. It can be intimidating to think of putting a large portion of luxury spending money into a possibly unsatisfactory-- experience. This, in combination with the enticement of someone new results in the large volume of "has anyone seen x?" threads and replies. --And of course even a well-reviewed and active commentator sp can have an unsatisfactory experience with a client, but more information out there in the form of recommendations and a well-known 'personality' online helps the hobbiests find the right sp for them, and this means less information means greater perception of risk for the hobbiest.

Just use what you said in this question for your introduction to the lady that interest you. I edited it below ... I think its actually pretty polite and within reason. :D lets see what other has to say.

Rebecca, stand your ground to the offerings/donations published in your adverts. Raising the bar will draw in the respectful people, hopefully keeping the low life out of your life.

Peachy and I have never met... but we have engaged in a number of conversations over the past few weeks. The more I speak to her, the more I appreciate her. In fact, her sense of conviction, her willingness to speak out on something for which she feels strongly, makes her all the more attractive in my mind. So here's to you my dear. Kudos to an admirable recipient!!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=18359 and here's a look at 12 PAGES of recos!!! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=P&t=4309

This thread has veered into needed discussion territory. Confession: I love BBBJs. I would be saddened if this current industry standard changed. But I remember some "good old days" decades ago when CBJ, CFS, and non-GFE/PSE behaviour was normal. 20 years ago in a large Canadian city, here are some example of things that NO coventional phone book escort, SUN advertiser, or a corner-cutie would provide to me or anyone else I knew; LFK, DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CIM, MSOG, Digits, Greek, rimming, and the list went on. At that time, I did my hobby about twice a month. Supposing 24 per year over 4 years at that time in my life, then out of about 100 hobby-times, 1) once I unexpectedly got one BBBJ in my car and 2) once I had everything including BBFS from an old girlfriend who had just started in the industry, and both of us were drunk and I did not know that she was an SP until after the glory. (Ghisele? Are you still out there?) The standard then was light rubbing, a hardening handjob, CBJ, and then CFS. The only skin in contact with my almighty one was the SP's hand, an occasional thigh, and soft tender breasts (pre-silicone era). And the number of SPs who would turn their head away or say "no" if you tried to kiss them was almost 100%. There were particular skills common within the industry at the time. Example. CBJ done well feels good. Check out the You Tube video (no link) called "How to put a condom on with your mouth" by River Huston. Done well by a skilled enthusiastic SP, its good. Different than BBBJ but good in its own way. And safer for the SP. I dont think that CBJ and BBBJ is the main difference today. I think it is something else. Today, an SP will talk and cuddle and be an individual; that non-sexual rapporting tends to enhance the overall experience these days. 20 years ago, that sort of rapport was rare. Things were quicker and more business-like. If you wanted modern options back then, you did it the hard way and not with an SP --- bar, wink, buy drink, flirt, dance, yap, FK, her place or my place, "fuck and duck" --- with no guarantee of ever getting past FK. That is all a long way of saying that I prefer BBBJ over CBJ but can be made quite happy by a CBJ if done the right way and is accompanied by more individualizing soft touches of intimate small chat, tender caresses, and light whispers in my ear. So, SPs, put industry standard on the agenda at the next union meeting. CBJ or BBBJ: both can be satisfying. But if the industry standard changes and we go back to the old ways of clock-watching, "much longer baby?", and patting my back like I am a dog, then I will considering expending my hobby efforts on a Fleshlight.

30. The Outcall at your home You have done it!!! You will no longer have to be master of your domain. Put that Kleenex box away. Today's the day you have finally saved for... you are going to meet Alotta Fagina and her new duo partner, Anita Dickens-Hyde (that's right, say it slowly...I'm a dirty freakin' genius!), at your swinging bachelor pad. Best behaviour!!! Now. Eeeeeeek. Look at this place. Ummmm. Ewwwwww. What is that smell??? Gonna need to do some laundry. Yup. Your method of saving on laundry costs by wearing t-shirts and underwear for 4 days has a price (inside out, outside in, backwards and forwards... doesn't everyone do this???) Your place kinda smells like... ummmm... how do we put it politely???? Poo. Sweat. and dead animals. Charming. A fire... you could set the place on fire. No. Bad idea. How about you clean it??? You know those dusty bottles that your sister gave you 8 years ago when you got the place??? Use those. The bedroom. It's not so bad. Okay. It looks like the bedroom of an 8 year old. The He-Man and the Masters of the Universe comforter set is quaint and charming BUT not so much on the sexy debonair suave side. You good sir are going to have to put some big boy clothes on and do some shopping. No. Chicks don't dig Transformers. You can't use that comforter set either. You know the colour of the paint on the walls?? Ask someone at the store to show you something without animated characters and sorta matches the decor. No. You can't buy the Gi Joe sheet set. No. Don't make me hit you. While you are out... did you think of refreshments?? I know that you like chocolate milk and cherry Koolaid mixed together, but it's not everyone's taste. Try something ummmm kinda grown up. Wine maybe? For GODS sake don't pick the wine in the Transformers bottle. Yes, I know it's "neat." That bottle over there - see it? Yes, that one in the clear green glass bottle. I know you don't know anything about wine. Yes, I know you don't own a corkscrew. Okay. Just pick up a bottle of white and a bottle of red with twist tops. And over there... see that section over there that says coolers? Pick up a 4 pack that is kinda girly. I have no idea what they like. Okay. I know you don't either. Jeebus. You see the pink ones? Pick those up. Oh and pick up those wine glasses over there. I know you probably won't use them again. But the LADIES might. Let's go to the grocery store now. I know you are excited. Settle down. No, you are too big to ride in the cart. I am only helping you. You need to push it yourself. Awww, don't pout. Are those, tears???? Okay you can ride in the cart. I will help you. See this?? This is bottled water. I know it's cheaper from the tap. I know you want to show the ladies your limited edition Star Wars glasses from 1983. Trust me, we will go with the bottled water. Oh hey... look at that. It's cheese and it doesn't come in a can!!! Let's do some of that. You don't have plates? Okay. Let's go to the deli... they have a cheese and crackers platter at a reasonable price. What do you mean you don't have napkins. Ohhhh... you use Cottonelle for everything. Not today. No sir, not today. I am guessing you don't have candles. Oh you do??? Lord of the Rings Hobbit Candles. Charming. Nothing sorta plain?? Okay let's forget the candles, the less they see of your place the better. Gents... when you invite a provider to your home treat them with the respect they deserve. Clean. Yup. Clean. The bathroom, the bedroom, the living room and the kitchen. If you provide refreshments do so from a SEALED bottle opened in their presence. Make an effort. You make THEM bacon sandwiches!!! They are your guests! 31. Great Expectations It's happened to all of us on BOTH sides of the equation. You have been speaking for weeks, have exchanged PMs, texts, calls... and today is the day that you are finally going to meet. The door opens... and meh. It's certainly not unique to this world, it happens on dating sites all over. It's happened at high school reunions. It happens everywhere. You have envisioned a mix of Megan Fox/Angelina Jolie/Sasha Grey and are met with ummmmm... not that. You are disappointed. You have built up the moment in your head, the dream date with Megangelisha... and are met with a pretty woman that isn't her. What to do? Step back. Take a moment. Take stock. You aren't Brad Pitt, Channing Tatum or Shemar Moore. You are just a guy. She is a pretty girl. Give your head a shake. She is going to touch your wiener. She is a pretty wiener touching girl. Not only that, she is the pretty wiener touching girl that has an amazing personality. She is a charming pretty wiener touching girl that smells really good. She is an aromatic charming pretty wiener touching girl wearing a beautiful negligee cut so low that you see her amazing boobies. She is an aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has just invited your into her home. She is a welcoming aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has just planted the most amazing kiss on your lips. She is a kissable welcoming aromatic near naked buxom charming pretty wiener touching girl that has changed your opinion. No longer meh. She's HAWT. She isn't Megangelisha but then again you aren't Brachanmar. That's a good thing too, cuz neither of your fake names is frickin' pronounceable. What you are is.... together, at her place, at the appointed time, with the correct amount of money, with a couple of hours open, with a bottle of wine and possessing some degree of chemistry. A light goes on in your head. This is good. This is really good. Of course then she kills you. You knocked on the wrong door. Had you followed the directions she gave you, you would have been alive BUT OHHHH NO.... you had to be the guy who doesn't need directions. Serves you right to be dead. You knocked on the door of the notorious negligee nympho killer. She's probably desecrating your corpse right now.... No, I'm just messing with ya. She didn't kill you. If she did, you wouldn't be reading this. You had a really good time. She rocked your world. Your wiener is kinda sore, but in a good way. You learned a valuable lesson. Don't dismiss something that could be great. You built the rapport, follow through. Read the directions to her place. Don't knock on the wrong door. Beware of nearly nude nymphos with knives. If she is playing the theme from Psycho, run. Don't go swimming until an hour after you have eaten. Don't stick forks in live electrical outlets. If you can't pronounce it, don't eat it. It's amazing being me. Bwahahahahahah

I had the pleasure of seeing Ms Manda today; all I can say is that she out did herself and all f my expectaions. Manda is a very beautiful, sensual, sophisticated your woman who is what she says she is. Manda and I had a fantastic meeting (will not go into detail); an appointment that had both of us laying besde each other afterwads saying how gret the experienc was for each other. Guys, she is a beauty queen, and a real down to earth lady. I will definitely repeat and highy recommend. Thanks Manda...............until next time:icon_wink: hank88

I am posting this as remider that we are not super hero's and we are not invinciable! I came across this artical in hopes to just remind us that in our lifestyle, we need to be informed no matter how hard we want to put this issue in a box, and out of mind, we simly cant! http://metronews.ca/news/canada/609197/new-brunswick-officials-issue-std-warning/ This post is not intended to scare you, or annoy you, but just for a reality check. Play safe:)

I've just seen her today for her oral special....can't say enough good things about this beauty.

A few passages in the article really concerned me: "A small-scale study presented in 2011 by the nonprofit Prostitution Research & Education, based in San Francisco, compared 101 men who had bought sex with 100 men with similar age, race and education level who had not. The sex-buying men were recruited through ads in newspapers and on ----------, and they were more likely than non-sex-buyers to have a prior criminal history, to say they would commit rape if they could get away with it and to have coerced non-prostitute sex partners into sex." The article got a little vague after that statement & didn't go into any supporting detail. Weird. It was like reading a People magazine article. Dumbed-down and just able to keep your attention long enough for the average time it take to have a crap. Maybe the reason the Johns have a criminal history is 'cuz they were nicked for soliciting the services of a prostitute? On the up-side, it did get me to ponder about the usefulness of John School (clarification: not that I've ever been to one).

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Like Others, I too generally Play Monday-Friday, But am willing to make exceptions for evenings or Saturdays. I never Sin on Sunday. okay...maybe once, but I try not to. ;) I Do not offer FS- So not sure if my comment is relevant in this section. Either way- here it is ;) Rrrrroar!

How to properly ask for this? Well, I think for you it will be easy, just ask for it the way you did in your post. It is that easy! I like all the things you like and experience them by just asking. As for GFE, I do not have anything to tell you, because I do not really understand the term myself, even though there is lots said about it in other threads. it appears to mean different things for different people. I never use the term. "Girl friend Experience"? What is that? I am an experienced older hobbyist, and in my view I much rather work on the reality that we are hobbyist and provider rather than the fantasy of being girlfriend/boyfriend. That way I can focus on being the best client I can for the encounter to be all it can be, and the provider can do the same.

There are some many beautiful, seductive and sexy ladies on CERB, [--]SexxxxyRebecca; french perfection, we have tried to meet but business travel did not permit amongst a few other things, [--]A Taste of Eve; mature, seductive, sensual and alluring, [--]Gegafatale (Genevieve); supreme goddess of seduction, [--]Karina; south pacific delight, and [--]Vanessa Vale, curvaceous goddess of seduction. Decisions, decisions!!!!

Keep the discussions calm and respectful. I am getting requests to close these threads cause they are getting nasty. Its a touchy subject and anyone who can not discuss these issues calmly should stay off the threads. I will suspend anyone i find being nasty, rude, hostile or negative for a minimum of 7 days. I dont want to close these threads so consider this the one and only warning. Hostility has no place on cerb.

What disturbs me most about the article is that someone intentionally went cruising for victims, much like the predators that stalk SPs; with intention of transmitting a disease. If the client base knew how many crazies providers deal with, this article wouldn't seem inflammatory, it would just make sense as to why she posted the link... cat

It's nice to see this thread up again. I forgot about it. There are a lot of new members here, and I would like to know how they came up with some of their cute or unique names :)

Personally, I think that love is essential for our well-being. It is human to want contact with others. Babies who get little physical contact often fail to thrive. Adults who are extremely isolated often develop serious physical and mental health problems. One reason many people experience dogs as therapeutic is that dogs give their owners unconditional love and approval. A dog can be a remedy for depression for some people. I also think that love isn't about heart-shaped boxes of chocolates, bouquets of flowers or poetry, though it may include them. Love is not that heart-thumping elation one might feel for a new partner, though it may include that, too. In some religious traditions there are commandments about love, loving neighbours, loving strangers and engaging in loving acts. Love can be commanded or required because, ultimately, love is not what we feel, it's what we do. It's how we treat others. Not just people we already care about and who have done good things for us, but people we don't know or have good reason not to like, care for or trust.

I can't comment on the statistics nor do I want to, they seem to vary vastly anyway.However I will say I am familiar with the all the risks involved with all sex practices, these I discuss often with my doctor. What risks I take and my partner take are between me and him, thats our conversation. If you see him thats between you and him and YOUR conversation. What I do is no concern of yours nor is what you do a concern of mine. I can't control it! Do I want providers to be resonsible and safe, of course, but again we are all adults and make our own decisions, hopefully they will be the right ones. What I don't like is hypocrisy and I think condeming one risky behavior while performing another or wanting one performed is hypocritical.But that is just my opinion.:icon_biggrin:

I will have to graciously disagree. Whether the provider is a mature lady or younger, I believe that has no bearing on how careful they may be. Regardless of the providers age, we protect and care for our health and others who we interact with. BBFS is requested a lot but more will decline than those who will give in or offer and in this day and age why on earth would a hobbyist request BBFS and just because a lady is mature dosen't mean she won't oblige or offer BBFS. Age is nothing but a number and a false sense of security. It takes two to have sex and to practice safer sex.:condom: If a provider becomes ill, we're out of luck and can not earn a living. Why risk that and possible death. No donation is worth that much. Just my humble thoughts and opinion.

I understand the confusion as both have risk. I feel that because of the increased sexual partners that an SP has, her risk increases exponentially. Myself as an example, my target is to see 1 client a day/5 days a week. Thats 260 encounters a year. Now most of my clients are repeats but I'm not naive enough to believe that I am the only provider they see so if 20 of them see a high volume provider each month (let's assume 100 clients/mth) once a month it increases my exposure to over 2000 people per month or 24 000 people per year. Those numbers are very scary to me. I can't calculate the odds of a client because it would vary for each man but if they actually thought about the number of people a provider is exposed to, I think it would have a sobering effect especially if they only see ladies who offer bbbj as in Ottawa those providers are much busier.. I also understand that some men have issues with condoms being used during oral but in 25 years I have never had anyone have an actual issue with it unless they have an ED issue. I can get a condom on a man without him even knowing it's there and have new clients stop me during FS to check if I've put it one on after coitus is underway. This has led me to believe that it's a mental block not a physical issue at hand. I've never been comfortable with unprotected anything but Canadian men are brutal when it comes to insisting on it. I offered it in '08 out of financial necessity but no longer put it on the menu. It just isn't worth it to me. Uncovered oral is something I do when I'm so connected with a partner that I have complete trust in them and in the relationship we have. I'm not a risk taker, I don't play the stock market, russian roulette or go to the casino. Playing the odds I've listed above just doesn't seem like a prudent move on either a business or personal level. This is suppose to fun and in my world, fun isn't accompanied by sleepless nights full of worry, a trip to the doctor or having to tell you significant other you have infected them with something that may impact their health... cat

I don't think it's going to become more prevalent at all. It does exist out there, and it always has. But I personally think it becomes less and less prevalent, as many women in this business are smart, savvy, entrepreneurs, not all women who are just looking for money. It may be being talked about more now, but I don't think that in any way means it's going to become more common. As you can see from this thread already, we girls blacklist guys who want BBFS, and men will blacklist a girl who offers it. My hope is that, instead of becoming more common, these blacklistings will help to weed the BBFS morons out completely, and make it LESS prevalent, instead of more.

Although I enjoy a good bbbj ... and Peachy yours was out of this world btw ;) ... I have to side with you and Vanessa on this that maybe cbj is the way to go now. I mean if bbfs is to become more prevalent ... and God let's hope it doesn't!! ... it will make the whole GFE thing a little scary, including DFK which I soooo don't want to lose. BTW thanks for all the support and replies ... and especially to all you classy ladies who are helping me keep faith in the hobby!! ;)

The so called "patient zero" of the AIDS epidemic was a French Canadian flight attendant, who, despite knowing he was infected, slept with thousands of people with no protection. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga%C3%ABtan_Dugas#section_4 Anyone doing BBFS is basically playing Russian Roulette with awful diseases instead of bullets.

Same. Asking for it, even once, ensures I will never, ever see you. That is an individual I would not feel safe being around, ever. I've had people offer me ridiculous amounts of money for BBFS. My response to them is: There is nothing you can put in my wallet that is worth risking my life.

You are not over-reacting. There is enormous pressure on paid companions at every price point to provide bareback full service (BBFS). Many of us have been talking about this all fall and winter. We're concerned about the women who are being pressured into it for fear of having fewer clients. I think it began with the trend to pressure women into providing uncovered BJs. Many companions believe this isn't safe. Others are willing to take the risks, since HIV is not associated with it because the HIV virus is too fragile to live in a human throat. However, there is a new strain of gonorrhea that isn't curable and gonorrhea will live very happily in the throat, undetected, for months or more. Some companions offer bbbjs but not to completion, or they don't swallow. Everyone makes decisions based on her assessment of the risks, including the prevalence of particular infections in her city. But full service is a completely different matter. In Vancouver, it's available from a lot of street-based workers. My understanding is that it's an option in some of the Asian micro-brothels where the ladies have come in to work for a few months. I don't know why people think this is safe. It makes no sense to me. But I have had prospective clients offer me two or three times my hourly rate or more to accommodate them. I'm sure that they will eventually find someone who will agree to it. I work to support myself and my family. To take care of our lives. I won't put my life at risk!