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To Mr. Capital Hunter: I have been an escort for over 15 years, and I have never taken a shower at after an outcall because I feel more comfortable doing in my own home and it has nothing to do with fear of being attacked or robbed. It's just my preference. And, I don't care if you have a solid reputation as being a good guy, I still wouldn't shower at yours or any other "nice guy's" incall just to prove I'm clean. Period. And to say to Ms. LuxeMulvari that she should be comfortable doing that because she's willing to be there to do the call, doesn't jive in my opinion. In the shower, you are alone and vulnerable and much harder to "run" naked and dripping with water, perhaps without your belongings. That is her concern. As well, like her, mine would be having the proper toiletries and being able to dry my hair, etc. Both are valid reasons. Just because a lady doesn't want to shower at your location, doesn't make her "dirty" or not worthy of a repeat visit. I think you owe Ms. Mulvari an apology.

I'd just like to point out here, just because an sp/ma doesn't shower at your location, doesn't mean she doesn't bathe. In my personal experience, when I'm doing an outcall, I NEVER shower at the gents location, I always wait until I get home and do that immediately upon walking through door after i take off my shoes and hang my jacket. Having worked in another much more dangerous city early in my career, I have had money and other property stolen while I was bathing, and on another occasion was actually locked in the bathroom and held against my will. Hence, I do not trust a stranger to be totally vulnerable ( in a bathroom with water running where i cannot see or hear what's going on) and leaving my property unattended while bathing in unfamiliar environment. Not only that, but I don't like the idea of using someone's else's shower, soap or towels when I have all these items that are mine at my home, plus my shampoo and other girly cleansing items that men rarely if ever have. Bathing time is very intimate time for me, especially after a rendezvous, it's my time to decompress and unwind. Therefore,it's something prefer to do in the privacy and comfort of my own home. Even in my own incall, I wait until my guest has departed and I'm alone to bathe. Just because you don't observe lady bathing doesn't mean she doesn't do it, some of us prefer to keep some aspects of our lives private;)

Ahem. I believe the issue here was about nasty business experienced by a client when he was dealing with a provider. Let it be said that I have NEVER had to share that experience in the world of paid companions... or mystery house guests who want to have sex with me if I leave a money laden envelope in plain sight... or magical princesses transported to my location from the sexy planet of Humpalottus.... the vast majority of women in this industry are far more diligent about the delicate matters of pooter maintenance than women in the vanilla world. That's a fact, Jack. That being said, ladies, if you wouldn't be willing to rub a finger inside and stick it under your nose and then in your mouth, the likelihood is that your cooch is a scary place. It's the same thing with foreskin... if you think you smell cheese, it's a BAD thing. Go to the shower, set the pulsating massage head to POWER WASH grab some soap and have at it... repeat until you would go down on yourself, you sexy soapy hygienic beast, you. As for the post coital shower... ummmm... if you are a client, knock yourself out. Take that shower. Scrub like a demon. Apply sparkles to your junk. You deserve it ... you are one handsome, satisfied and ultra clean dude. But... again if you are a client... ummmmm.... why do you care if she showers AFTER the fact and in your presence? She knows she has to maintain and frankly it's none of your business where or when it gets done! Your transaction or mystery visit or whatever the hell you want to call it is OVER. Jeebus. and now, a song... sung to the tune of Carolina in the Morning... me, me, me, me (that's just doing some vocal exercises... feel free to join) Nothing could be finer than to have a clean vagina for your session, Nothing could be sweeter than to have a cleaner wiener for your session, Yelling dirty stories Screamed through the door, And orgasmic glories Rattling the floor. Rolling with a girlie with a necklace made of pearly in the session, No longer you're a loner cuz she's playing with your boner in the session, If I had Aladdin's lamp for only a day, I'd make a wish and here's what I'd say: Nothing could be finer than to have a clean vagina for your session. I'm a freakin' musical genius....

This thread hits close to my heart. Thank you, Karina, for being so forthcoming and honest about your feelings. It has created a safe environment for people to post about their own experiences. Hopefully we can all learn from one another, and move forward with compassion, kindness, and love for ourselves. Perhaps this isn't the appropriate place or time to discuss my experiences, but this story might illuminate the complexities of loving people, regardless of whether the relationship is bounded by the particular circumstances of the SP/client relationship. I hope this helps, Karina, and I hope others who are reading are compassionate and understanding. In May 2011, a client and I fell in love. Was it wrong? Definitely not. Was it complicated? Very. We had so much in common and he inspired me. He encouraged me to apply to law school, write poetry, start a blog, and share my thoughts with the world. At one point he bought me a beautiful leather bound journal and said I inspired him as well. We wrote e-mails to each other endlessly, and saw each other approximately every two weeks. He was writing a novel, and I was reading it and providing him feedback on it. The novel's love story turned out to be representative of the love he and I shared. As he learned more about my life, he would integrate those moments into the narrative. It was beautiful to see our love story unfold both on paper, via e-mail, and in real life. The problem: he was single but contemplating getting back together with his ex and I was in a relationship with a woman I married several months later. While on a trip to Chicago, he and I decided to part ways. After a morning of blissful relaxation, lovemaking, kissing, and caressing, we went out for lunch. I looked at him and said I felt very confused and conflicted. I told him I loved him, but that it was complicated. I asked him what we were doing, and whether we wanted to move forward with a 'relationship'. With hindsight, I recognize that we were already in a relationship, simply a relationship of a different nature. Neither of us had satisfying answers. My relationship with this client was bounded by the financial exchange, but I knew I would lose my relationship with my partner if I continued to see him. We walked to Millenium Park and sat on a bench, and watched people walk by. We held hands, and we both cried and mourned the end of our relationship. While he and I were negotiating my departure from Chicago (and the relationship) we had doubts. He said "even how we have discussed this, with so much love, compassion, and understanding, makes me wonder whether we are making a mistake Nathalie" I shook my head, I wasn't sure. I went home to my partner, told her what happened, and that was the beginning of the end of my relationship with her. We separated in the summer of 2012. At the time, I made the decision that made sense for me. I have no regrets. However, Karina, I would ask that you not romanticize relationships that aren't bounded by a financial exchange. Money does not necessarily corrupt authentic love and intimacy, rather, it's our discomfort with the idea of mixing both that causes tension. I think it's important to keep in mind that most relationships have unnegotiated financial dynamics (for example, many marriages and long-term relationships) which can cause much more tension than the honest and open communication that's possible with clients in this industry. If it feels right to you, then tell him, whilst simultaneously keeping in mind all the questions, comments, and concerns raised by Samantha Evans as well as others. None of us are walking in your shoes (or his). Wanting to keep love, intimacy, and care in one world, and money in another is what most people do, but we should all have a better understanding of what really happens in this industry... it is so much more complicated than that, isn't it?

First time to see Holly. Gentlemen...I have been going to CMJ since they were on Wakley Rd....when I first saw Holly on the roster I was to intimidated to see her, and I had personal reservations as well...she looked too perfect and my experience with "too perfect" is less personal... more stand offish...you know....they know they are "perfect" as well and an attitude that is less than desirable (to me) comes to the foreground... MAN WAS I WRONG with Holly....she was very desirable...very sweet, very cute!, very approachable...very comfortable and very talented. Her skill shows her experience but her ability to make you feel important...relaxed...appreciated was outstanding. Very HIGHLY recommend this girl! Not only does she look like a 10 she is a 10!

very awesome thread.. I ve learned to live every minute of my life as if it was the last one... I ve learner that you will meet many people but at the end you will only have a couple or few true friends.. I ve learner at not get upset over things you can have control over... I e learned that life is too short to be pissed at something all the time... thats why I also smile... I ve learned how much my mother sacrificed to raise her children... I have learned that nothing or noone is ever perfect (except for me LOL- kidding) and to look always at the good and not the bad of a situation or a person,,, I HAVE LEARNED THAT CERB IS NOT JUST A WEBSITE WHERE HOBBIEST COME TO FIND LADIES OR LADIES COME TO FIND BUSINESS.. BUT IS A COMMUNITY WHERE LOTS A FABULOUS PEOPLE SHARE FEELINGS, CREATE FRIENDSHIPS.., OR AT LEAST FELLOWSHIPS... ;) ps I almost forgot.. I ve leaned that Old Dog is bringing a special Bacon sandwich to the Spring social for me! yay!! LOL

Commenting on a service is one thing, but to objectify women based on there looks? REALLY? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and what one sees as beautiful, someone else may not. In case you have not noticed there are women in this business with low self esteem, subjecting ladies to a list of best of is wrong and VERY demeaning. Some women would take offence to being or not being on some list and yes there are ladies who have some disillusion about who they are. yes we may be tough, but we dont need to have it thrown in our face about some top 10 list of god knows what.

Rated by whom and for what? Your 10 might be my 5 and vice versa. This is a pretty subjective enterprise my friend. Do you like BBWs? Spinners? BDSM? Prostate massage? GFE? PSE? You can't rate something as individual as sexual taste.

These questions always amaze me but I shall assume they come up because of the difference in donation requirements. Some lovely ladies choose to be MP's and other choose to be SP's. They make the choice based on what they are comfortable offering. To even suggest to an MP that you want her to supply a service typically offered by an SP is downright selfish. If you don't know the difference, inform yourself although if you are over the age of 21 you should know. I can understand how the "rules" can sometimes be blurred based on advertising strategies, but it behooves you to be informed about the industry standards prior to making your choice between the two offerings. If it comes down to the almighty dollar, well perhaps MPs and SPs are a luxury you cannot afford as none of us are prepared to offer something we are not comfortable with for the promise of extra cash. To steal RG's wording...a rambling.

I've learned that having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world. I've learned that simple walks with my father around the block on summer nights when I was a child did wonders for me as an adult. I've learned a 3-year old's voice is louder than 200 adults in a crowded restaurant I've learned certain Lego's will pass through the digestive tract of a 4-year old. I've learned that you shouldn't compare yourself to others - they are more messed up than you think I've learned to say "Screw 'em if they can't take a joke" in 6 languages.

No one can impose monogamy on you if you say no. But if you reject it and have no intention of being monogamous, but let them think you will, then you're the liar and the cheat. It's not their fault. If you don't want to be monogamous, then it's up to you to make that clear, or else accept the fact that you are betraying their trust. The problem for many men I've known over the years wasn't monogamy, but one partner unilaterally deciding that the sexual aspect if the relationship was over. Now that's an imposition. But for someone to want a monogamous relationship, and be very clear about that from the start, is not an imposition because you can refuse it.

I have always been a horny little slut, seeking out naughty adventures. ;) I used to have a lot of public sex, both indoor and outdoor, and work was no exception. There was one job in particular where I became very good friends with a male co-worker. He was my superior, so that made it even more fun. We fucked and sucked in just about every place we could find in that building (both inside and outside), during working hours. It's actually a wonder how we never got caught. One special time I vividly remember giving him a delicious blow job on our bosses desk when he was out. We had joked about it for months and finally went for it one day... oh my, what a naughty thrill!! ;) And no one was ever the wiser... It was always our forbidden little secret! Sometimes it's fun to think about all the illicit stuff that probably goes on around us all the time that we have no idea about!

I had one employee that I interviewed and hired a few years ago. She was actually brilliant at her job and I was please with my choice as an employee. However, over a little time she would innocently flirt with me and find reasons to have to come and talk to me about whatever projects she happened to be working on and being that she was 15 years younger than me I admit I found it cute and endearing. From time to time I definately would daydream about laying her up on my desk pulling up her skirt and going down on her then turning her around and ...... I digress. It was all "just daydreaming" until one day she came into my office and closed the door. I had no idea what she was up to until she turned and sat infront of me, she was crying. She opened up to me about her life and boyfriend and their problems and how he had cheated on her. She went on for a little while and I just listened but eventually she stopped reached over and touched my hand across the desk and said, "why couldn't he be like you". She just didn't say another word just stared at me and waited for my response. In my head alarm bells were ringing and I was like, "oh fuck, awkward moment". In my wisdom, I went off on a speech about youth and love and how she had so much more to experience and how there was surely a perfect person out there who whould cherish her in the way she deserved and maybe she could use the opportunity to make a fresh start in her life. I told her to look and wait for the silver lining. After I finished my talk I told her to go home for the rest of the day and just deflate. As soon as she left I picked up my phone and made a few calls and called in a couple of favours. The next day she mysterously got a call from a head hunter from one of my competitors who happen to need someone of just her skillset as a manager for one of their departments at a considerable pay and responsibility increase. That week she resigned and took the new job excited that such a great opportunity just found her just when she needed it. To this day she has no idea how it happened. My fantasy could have very easily become reality but that's not me to take advantage of any situation. I just need to find another fantasy now, a safer one. Chuck

I am not advocating truth or falsehood within any of these statistics, BUT, just to be clear and so that the statistics are being interpreted properly; all of the statistics from these studies are based on the fact that one partner is actually HIV positive. For example for the high risk activities: For every 1000 times someone who is HIV positive has unprotected vaginal sex with another person, on average they may transmit the disease 1-2 times to their partner. It is NOT saying that for every 1000 unprotected vaginal sex acts, 1-2 people contract HIV. And when someone performs unprotected anal sex on a partner who is HIV positive, there is a 0.06% to 0.16% chance that the person inserting will contract the disease from the HIV positive receiver. The studies assessed the ability and risks of transmission, and concluded that there is a x.xxx% chance of contracting HIV when engaging in those specified unprotected sex acts with a person who is in fact HIV positive. They are not overall blanket stats to say that for every single unprotected sex act that occurs between any two people, there is a x.xx% chance of contracting HIV.

Its a great idea, there is more to companionship and an encounter than intimacy and sometimes people need ideas put in front of them. It is some excellent to add to what is already available and you will probably attract some new clients from it. Im not sure what type of social activities you are interested in offering, but unless it is some extreme sport or bull running I cant understand what you would be thinking about requiring insurance? If you and I go bungee jumping and I get hurt, are you responsible for my actions, not at all. Your responsible when your client leaves drunk after a few drinks and drives and causes an accident. How you worded the being active was great and I highly doubt anyone wishing to be active with you would have an issue with you not being a trainer as long as your upfront with it.

Could it be bacon pancakes?

I've learned that hearing a child's voice say, "I love you" can undo all the wrongs of even the worst day.

I have learned.... Life is a privilege. The people you care about most in life are taken away from you too soon. That either you control your attitude or it controls you. To not compare myself to others. Credentials on the wall do not make you a decent human being. Managing your 'wants' is the most powerful skill a person can have. That it's not what you have in your life but who you have in your life. No matter how much you care for people, some people just don't care back. When you worry about what others think of you, you're just worried of what you really think of yourself. You can do something in an instant that will give you heartache for life. You can only charm people for a few minutes but you'd better know something after that. Family won't always be there for you while others will be there to give you the love and support that you need. Family isn't always biological. You can always keep going, even though you feel you can't. It is your inner power rather than weakness that frightens you most. Older doesn't necessarily mean you're wiser, unless you've looked within. The people who complain the most, accomplish the least. Nothing ever happens as you've pictured it. You don't own an idea until you understand it with your heart. People cause suffering when they are suffering themselves. Blame is the favorite pastime of those who don't like responsibility. Sometimes you need to remove people from your life. Even if they're family. Punishing others has more to do with venting frustrations rather than correcting behaviour. Revenge is for the petty and irresponsible. Life is a solo trip. You will have visitors but not a lot of them will be long lasting.

I found this interesting so I had to find out why-- Why are there two different words? According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage, back in the 1920s the National Fire Protection Association urged people to start using the word 'flammable' instead of 'inflammable' (which is the original word) because they were concerned some people might think inflammable meant not-flammable. Actually, the in- in inflammable was derived from the Latin preposition meaning en- (like enflamed), not the Latin prefix meaning -un. It's not like everyone knew the derivation of the word, so the change probably made sense. However, confusion persists today regarding which word to use.Flammable is the modern term for a material that catches fire readily. Inflammable means the same thing. If a material won't burn easily, you could say it is not flammable or nonflammable. I don't think unflammable is a word (and really anything can burn if you try hard enough, right?) Additional Comments: Disinterested - having no personal involvement or receiving no personal advantage, and therefore free to act fairly. "Impartial" or "not taking sides". "All good referees must be disinterested" Uninterested - means not showing any interest. "not interested". "I'm uninterested just in case you didn't know......

You guys are all very nice with your repsonses...I am not. Anyone who is an actual professional would know NOT TO WORK during any type of infection. She is the one supposedly with the goo down there-so she has to know somethig aint right. Since she still choose to do massages-she should have skipped the body slides and kept her pants on.

One of the first think you may want to consider is your choice of words. Because an MP doesn't provide FS doesn't mean she isn't worth seeing. What will make your first time worth it is based on your expectations. What is it your looking for is what you have to figure out. Reading recommendation threads on SPs and MPs will help. Also look at the ads, profiles and websites(if available) of ladies that you might be interested in. Often services are described. One thing for sure, your choice of words and how you approach a lady is of the upmost importance. Its all about Respect!!!!

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I have done outcalls in the past and will continue to do them just as long as I get proper verification. I also check in with someone before and after while I'm on an outcall. As long as you know the SP is reputable and discrete in her behaviour and how she dresses, you should be fine. When I first started out with an agency, I would get the driver to drop me off a few houses down so no one would see a car pulling up. I also dressed tastefully so I wouldn't draw any attention to myself.

I have always said I would up for such an event. Now since I am an SP responding on an escort board, just to be clear I would not feel comfortable participating with a non-pro lady who just does it for fun (with the cost of the room covered). If that is what you are looking for, I suggest trying a fetish site, not cerb. Also in bukkake, it is my understanding that the lady is lavished upon by the guys with their "sauce" as the OP put it, not into giving oral pleasure as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I am open to that, but that would affect the expectation/cost/structure of the party. When and if I decide to do this, it would be cool to do it with another SP, and at such time would post an ad in the advertising forum for FS Escorts. Just out of curiosity, what kind of scenario do you other gents have in mind?

I understood something somewhat similar "Fornication under consent of the King"

Even if you are not looking for a bbj or fs...the main attraction of your request is a PSE acivity..PSE is offered by some sp's not MA's... If anything, contact an sp who also provides massage services. But attempting to contact an MA to do a PSE activity would probably not go over very smoothly ;) IF anything, most MA's would find this question super insulting.

To meet many new friendzies like Lee ;).., reconnect with some old friends like Old dog...... and off course get a bag of baked goodies from MisterT... I ll even throu in a kiss for some extra goodies... but dont say anything shhh...

When I saw the title of this thread, the first thing that popped in my head was the movie The Secretary with Maggie Gallenhaal. Quite intense movie! Dom/Sub lovers, I recommend that you watch this. Here's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmSO07r_zTc This is the first spanking scene between the secretary and the boss. So far they only had a strickly professional relationship...until:

This could easily get blown our of proportion and since cerb does not allow RATTING this is not the site for this.... and when we use to allow ratings on recommendations many ladies would get upset if they got anything shy of 10/10 so we removed them. Most people have some level of insecurity and voting on one person being better then another for something so personal does not sit well with me so lets just keep this off the site here. Remember it is a lot more difficult to write something nice then to write a bad review, the guys here on cerb who take the time to write a positive recommendation for a lady will clearly show you who they feel is a top level provider.

Good day gentleman Cerbies! Just a thought and a challange I guess. If you are fortunate enough to be able to join in this social event that's wonderful and I hope you have a great time but for those that can't I 'd like to invite you to contact Angela with a donation for a prize to be given to the wonderful ladies who go to the Cerb social. Day in day out many of these ladies pander to the fantasies of us hobbiests here on Cerb, chat with us, flirt with us, provide their time to give us some reading and visual enjoyment and brighten our days. Even a small token donation, just to say thanks would be a wonderful gesture and I'm sure would be greatly appriciated. Give and you shall receive! Sorry I can't be there in person but I'll be there in spirit! Have a great time. Chuck

Did you know... As with all breeds of dogs, their unique coat style is for their individual purposes. Example: That fancy coat that a poodle wears, in the dog shows, were originally designed for the purpose of protecting their internal organs and joints when in cold water to retrieve fishermen's nets! So the big sweater around chest to protect heart, lungs. The pom poms on the feet and hips to to ward against early arthritis, the poof on the top of the head to protect form hypothermia! So it is not just a fancy hair du for nothing....served a really as a function:)

Put coffee on, get in shower, get dressed. Head to kitchen for that sweet, sweet cup of coffee...only to realize it was unplugged and my COFFEE IS NOT READY YET!!!

I hope this isn't off topic, but the original post was about hygiene and I saw someone respond saying that they had received dfk from the provider who had recently prior seen another client eho had received bbbjcim I have 2 issues with this 1) As you are fully aware you hired us as a service provider, and fully aware that as this is our job there's a pretty good chance you aren't the first one who has shared our intimacy. If you are requesting the service of DFK fron a service provider, you would think that you chose this service well knowing that we encounter many different sexual requests and if dfk is something you wanted it is your responsibility and only yours to think of the pros and cons you have with receiving this service. It is quite naive for you to expect anything otherwise. Most ladies list the services they provide so you should check those out and if she offers something that your not interested in you should use that to help in your descision. 2) you are basing your disgust based on 3rd party info discussing privately the experience of another clients encounter with the lady you had just seen. For whatecer reason you decide to fully trust the experience he told you about shows that maybe you're judgement is one to be questioned and not the providers. We can only be responsible for our own descisions and choices. It's your body and if you are not comfortable with the hygiene of another you have every right to request that we freshen up But to trust the details of someone else's experience which should be private unless otherwise approved by the lady, is disrespectful and wrong. Maybe that guy just wanted to gross you out. Don't quote me on this stat but it has been heard that many have ...what's the word.... Lie would be harsh so ill say 'elaborate' on the details of an encounter Perfect example why specific session details should remain between the client and the provider

True, but "flammable" and "inflammable" DO mean the same thing.

Ok this thread is kind of getting hijacked and becoming about if an escort should shower after an outcall which she should, as for where she should that is up to her. As long as the host will not be involved in any other physical activity with her then I don't see why it should matter to him. As for a provider doing one outcall after another without showering in between that is wrong but is up to the other gentleman to decide what to do in the case the lady has poor hygiene, is not the previous host's job to make sure a lady showers to protect (assuming she will see one) her next client. My point is, making a lady having to shower at the location where she had an outcall a rule not only is not doable but it also would not change anything, as you said both parties, providers and clients have to try to do as much research as possible on someone before meeting that person, it makes a huge diference!

Thanks for doing the work to collect this stuff together, cyclo - much appreciated! I know that digging all this stuff up takes significant effort. One thing I do want to address, though, is the relative reliability of the science here. There's a huge problem with this kind of thing is that the relative risk of particular acts is almost impossible to establish. Many people who have acquired HIV probably can't tell you with any certainty who they got it from, never mind shed any light on what they may have been doing at the time, and discounting for the moment that most of us probably don't limit our sexual interactions to just one way of having fun. And that's before you have to account for the fact that people may indeed lie, or simply misremember things without any actual attempt at malice. Unfortunately, you can't actually do proper, scientific experiments on this stuff; you just can't take a thousand HIV+ guys, and have a thousand uninfected people give them one BBBJ each, and then see how many are infected in turn. And so we have to make the best of what we have available, and study the ferociously complex mess that is real life for real people and make the most sense of it that we can. And so, yes, there will always be a margin of error; frequently it'll be a very large margin for lots of different errors. What's as important as anything else is for studies to be honest about the assumptions they've made, about the flaws in their methodology, and the limitations of the available data sets.

CH, I just read into Luxe's post as an SP's perspective. Maybe a little off-topic but perhaps there was a developing perspective being made? I don't think any insult was being implied. Just my $0.02.

Well, I'm not qualified to comment on legal issues. However, Samantha did ask us to do something about the food around here, and I think that if she's gong to be running the show we'd better get the catering up to standard pretty quickly. Regrettably, it's true that although we're world experts on bacon sandwiches, my research indicates that there are some misguided individuals who do not consider fried pig and some bread to be the epitome of haute cuisine. Gentlemen... we're going to have to get some outside help here. So, I have conducted exhaustive research (I wasn't just going out for lunch all the time, okay? Well, maybe I was, but it was for a good cause, dammit!), and I think I've found a suitable candidate. I only tried the soup, but I think we can safely trust these guys with the responsibility of cooking for us and our visitors.

Well Madam Samantha....as the secretary of this here Redneck Lodge #666, I had some corspondnce, spondence. corres, shit can't spell that.....anwhoo our attorney's have met apparently ...they prioritized posted by heehaw mail this pic....your attorney on the left there and ours on the right side there in the picture...and it appears the negotiations and the tanning are going very well :) Oops its 12PM and happy hour again and gotta go....talk soon Miss Samantha ! PS .... rude of me to not ask !!!! .. how's the weather in that Vanhoover place west of Thunder Bay there ??

Regardless of the emotional impact of being with someone else, it is important that people understand the physical aspect, the ethics of exposing your partner without her knowledge or consent. If you're in a sexually active relationship, and carrying on clandestine sexual relations, please PLEASE be aware of your responsibilities. You can choose to take whatever level of risk you feel comfortable with for yourself, but you have an obligation to protect anyone you've given reason to think is in a monogamous relationship with you.

We are all aware these things can happen Karina. It's natural for people to fall for each other. My best advice is to just tell him. Never pass up the opportunity for something special in life or you'll regret it. If you word it right, he won't think you are just trying to get him in as a client. Just be honest with him and speak from the heart! Good luck Karina :D

As an Angel/Paradise Spa Attendant (MA) I would say I am more than happy to shower with my clients... But if you would like a shower together to start things you are best to let your attendant (MA) know. My standard is that the start of the appointment shower is for hygiene sakes.... ensure your day is washed away so to speak. But I do have clients that enjoy a few extra hands to ensure they are all clean and that showers are more than fun when done together. For these clients... or one that requests I would love to jump in the shower with you at the begining of the appointment! At the end of my appointments I enjoy spending that extra time to clean off with my clients..... As it is a "total experience" that we at AT/PS are offering, if you would like to spend more time in the shower ( or really have any reasonale request) please ask your attendant(MA), and I am sure they would be more than happy to oblige you! Happy Hobbying..... xoxoxo Tiffany

Has anyone had the opportunity in meeting her? Her pics seems very sexy, just want to see if anyone has met her in person yet, and what their findings were?

Did you know that Nova Scotia is connected to the rest of Canada by a strip of land only 13 miles wide? or Did you know that the Cape Breton giant known as "Angus MacAskill" stood 7'9" and weighed over 400 lbs and was considered a true giant? He had to be buried in a coffin the size of a grand piano in 1865 and is still considered as Canada's largest man!

Circus Racoon in Toronto :) Love it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onRUWiVZ_6w

I think this is an amazing thread. Thanks Nathalie for such an open and honest post. It's an incredibly moving story. I know personally I've occasionally felt confused about my feelings for a special service provider. For a long time I tried to only hobby when I traveled, so that I couldn't develop feelings. But over time I craved more intimacy, and those sorts of one-off encounters just became rather dull and empty for me. For several years I saw one woman exclusively. She was an incredibly important part of my life. We didn't communicate much outside of setting up appointments, but we saw each other frequently, shared stories of our lives, and became very close and, I think, very dear friends. I didn't love her, but I often imagined that in other circumstances I could very easily have fallen in love with her. I think anyone can fall in love. Often love sneaks up and finds you in unexpected ways and unexpected places. So maybe it is possible to do so within the the bounds of the client-provider relationship. But it strikes me that this requires two incredibly secure people, who understand that the nature of their love isn't affected by their interactions with other people -- whether it be partners, spouses, or other clients -- and that the financial transaction also continues in tandem with emotional commitment. It strikes me that if that happened, it could be a most amazing thing. Many of the posts in this thread tend to assume that falling in love means a change in status for one or both of the parties ... the SP giving up her job, or the client (if married) seeking to free himself. I wonder if it needs to be that way, ... or if two people can accept who they are, the situation they find themselves in, and relish the fact of being in love. Some Tuesday night rambling. Maybe some food for thought. I'd love to hear what others think. Porthos

You are correct. And it was wrong of me to respond as it goes against the friendly and peaceful spirit of the board no matter how much I was offended. I will go back and edit my posts and would like to request kindly from Jabba if he would edit the quoted part too.

Sooooo Lee loves alluring eyes !! When I see this thread I often think of pics of our own gorgeous Cerb ladies here and started out on this post. Then decided to post pics this time of just some sexy ladies I have met and had the pleasure of staring into them up close and personal. I hope you don't mind ladies but here are some eyes that allured me .....big time. These eyes ...... Miss Cleo and these eyes..... Miss Victoria and these eyes ...... Miss Claire and these eyes ..... Miss Emily R. and these eyes .... Miss Penelope and these eyes.... Miss Keissy and these eyes..... S & M Sara and Malika and these eyes ..... Miss Emma and these eyes .....use your imagination but trust me they are alluring...if you are tall enough to look into them ;) she is my maid ! Miss Chrystal There are others that hooked me on first glance but unfortunately there were no pics to post. Once again hope you don't mind ladies....

Every possibility that his IQ might have increased once he turned!