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That activity is still illegal, and we don't discuss illegal activities here on cerb

The two publications at this link are part of a 3-year research project by Chris Bruckert at U of Ottawa and Tuulia Law, and a community advisory committee composed of Maggie's, POWER, Stella and Stepping Stone. "Rethinking Management in the Adult and Sex Industry" "Beyond Pimps, Procurers and Parasites: Mapping Third Parties in Incall/Outcall Sex Industry" Both of these are comprehensive, valuable publications, providing excellent summaries of the current laws related to prostitution in Canada as well as great analysis of the management models prostitutes use, including agencies, pimps, secretaries, booking agents, drivers and web designers.

Thanks, toklat! I am actually in the process of planning a trip to Kingston for the end of May... Potentially the 20th-22nd :)

OK here goes. I would consider myself Atheist. However in a way, I understand the need or desire for people to believe in something spiritually (What ever that may be for them). However, I believe in the fundamental value of do onto others as you would do onto you. You can be a moral person and not be religious I have no issue with religion or people who wish to worship a god. Again however, I have always said that some of the most intolerant people I have met are religious people. They interpret the bible to justify their beliefs and values and belittle those who oppose them. Understand this, the bible, the new testament and any other book of worship, were all written by man. (Sorry ladies, maybe women had a hand in it but considering it was 2 or 3 thousand years ago, I doubt it) Over the centuries, different people interpreted these books differently. Again, it is just humans interpreting the words of other humans. There are a lot of good things in any of these books. it's not hard to take a look at a cruel world and say, wouldn't it be better if we didn't do this and did do that. Morality is a personal choice and is solely based on how you live your life and how you treat others. My religion is the Religion of Humanity Sex for money (That doesn't include a pimp stealing money) is a business. Supply and Demand, Desire and Fulfillment. If all parties are willing and respectful than morally there is nothing wrong.

I think I'm starting to understand how things like anorexia, plastic surgery obsessions, excessive tanning, extreme body building, etc. come about. I've tended to be a little bigger most of my life. I'm tall so I get away with it but I've tended to carry a bit more weight than perhaps would be considered optimal. This year I decided to exercise a bit more and eat a bit less and have lost around 20 pounds from my 'typical' weight. At first, I found myself admiring my flat stomach and feeling very good about how loose my pants were and such but it seems that over time you start to adjust to your new 'baseline'. You look at yourself and still see things. A bit of a love-handle or whatever. You weigh yourself every day and see that you're still the same weight but when you look in the mirror, instead of liking what you see, you again become critical. You want to work out more, eat less, get fitter, more toned, etc. In theory I haven't changed over the last couple months, at least as far as the scale is concerned. But what I see in the mirror has changed. So I imagine this must be what it's like for people who have unhealthy obsessions with their appearance. No matter how much you do, you're always going to find new things to be unhappy with, things that you would like to change or improve. Kind of like those that were posted here before. We're always own own worst critics. I know it's just my mind playing tricks on me but it's a powerful effect. I can see how some people would fall under its spell. I know what it's doing though, this little nagging voice in my head, so I'm going to try to just keep eating well and exercising normally and not let it take hold of me. Remember people. Be comfortable in your own skin. You're probably more beautiful than you think you are.

Itbis hard to accomodate everyones schedules needs, i am just looking for an idea..., and i am open to other MAs experiences opinions... And why not at some point come and visit kingston once a month. I know like in any business time and recognition has to be acquired...m and i am ready to do that..., But you have to also understand i will be comming out of my comfort zone... My first adventure ever away xfrom home...:-)

If ilegal acvtivities and. Taking unnecesary risks to save a quick buck...is what you are looking for... My question is What are you doing on this Board??? You are 100 % in the wrong place.,,

I will venture and say that you find them on the streets.

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I know you said people who are offended by religion not to continue reading. I am not offended by religion as someone who spent many years sitting in a church, even taking part in a worship band at the church. But the question of does this hobby conflict with religion is a simple answer. Yes. If a person is taking part in a hobby where intimate acts are the main focus it is a whole hearted yes it conflicts with religion (I say religion knowing there are thousands of religions out there but for this this topic I figure we are talking Christianity, Judaism or Islam.) If you are going to follow a religion and say yes to some rules and no to others you are not following that religion. Yes they have good moral rules like love thy neighbour, or don't kill but that is (in my opinion) a way that most people knew the moment we could walk upright. To say yes I am a Christian and then go and get hammered every other night is not "Christ-Like" but hypocritical. The same can be said about having a sexual relationship outside of marriage or before marriage. As I have been told many times a sin is a sin. I am not saying what we do is wrong. Not at all. Just that if one is worried about their religion getting mixed up in this hobby it's OK, (don't want to come off as an ass) you are not really following your religion. I am sorry if I offended anyone with my last statement.

I have to agree with Eric on this. Anyone can skew their religion to say it is ok to do, to get what they want. I don't necessarily agree with that, but so be it...to each their own. I grew up going to church every week and stopped pretty much when i started going to Uni, since i was making my own decisions by then. But i went for the sake of my Dad and i lived under his roof, so i didn't really have a choice. But he wasn't strict about anything at home, just you had to go to church. I never believed in having to go to church to be with GOD, you can do that anywhere, if he's listening to everyone?! In the case of Christians, not sure where in the bible they mention going to see a prostitute is a bad thing but it def objects to a prostitute. I think the main issue is that the man is committing ADULTERY when seeing a prostitute, which is a big sin in the bible. Religion can be a funny thing, especially when it comes to saying what is acceptable or not...people pick and choose. Some accept gay marriage and others don't, some accept or will see an SP and others condone it. So this is kind of why I live my life, my way and not follow anybody, less problems that way lol. I try to treat people right and think i have good morals, but if i end up in so-called Hell, so be it Curious, why have you gone back to religion CH?

Taking a photo which turned out perfectly. That made my day! As we move on through spring, sailing toward summer. Here it is for anyone and everyone to enjoy if they so wish. I saturated the colors and underexposed it somewhat in order to bring out the shadows. The result had me "dancing in the streets" I must say. Have a great day and take care. PatrickGC

Believe it or not... brussel sprouts! Jelly beans stick in my teeth and I hate the feeling lol Zip lining or roller blading?

Thought this was well worth sharing! Change Your Thinking It will take just 37 seconds to read this and change your thinking.. Two men, both seriously ill, occupied the same hospital room. ... One man was allowed to sit up in his bed for an hour each afternoon to help drain the fluid from his lungs. His bed was next to the room's only window. The other man had to spend all his time flat on his back. The men talked for hours on end. They spoke of their wives and families, their homes, their jobs, their involvement in the military service, where they had been on vacation.. Every afternoon, when the man in the bed by the window could sit up, he would pass the time by describing to his roommate all the things he could see outside the window. The man in the other bed began to live for those one hour periods where his world would be broadened and enlivened by all the activity and colour of the world outside. The window overlooked a park with a lovely lake. Ducks and swans played on the water while children sailed their model boats. Young lovers walked arm in arm amidst flowers of every colour and a fine view of the city skyline could be seen in the distance. As the man by the window described all this in exquisite details, the man on the other side of the room would close his eyes and imagine this picturesque scene. One warm afternoon, the man by the window described a parade passing by. Although the other man could not hear the band - he could see it in his mind's eye as the gentleman by the window portrayed it with descriptive words. Days, weeks and months passed. One morning, the day nurse arrived to bring water for their baths only to find the lifeless body of the man by the window, who had died peacefully in his sleep. She was saddened and called the hospital attendants to take the body away. As soon as it seemed appropriate, the other man asked if he could be moved next to the window. The nurse was happy to make the switch, and after making sure he was comfortable, she left him alone. Slowly, painfully, he propped himself up on one elbow to take his first look at the real world outside. He strained to slowly turn to look out the window besides the bed. It faced a blank wall. The man asked the nurse what could have compelled his deceased roommate who had described such wonderful things outside this window. The nurse responded that the man was blind and could not even see the wall. She said, 'Perhaps he just wanted to encourage you.' Epilogue: There is tremendous happiness in making others happy, despite our own situations. Shared grief is half the sorrow, but happiness when shared, is doubled. If you want to feel rich, just count all the things you have that money can't buy. 'Today is a gift, that is why it is called The Present .' The origin of this letter is unknown, but please pass it on. Share it with friends and tag them so the cycle continues ... Do not keep this letter ... You could change a life too ...See More

I will be organizing the next Ottawa social for both male and female CERB members in good standing on Thursday, May 9, 2013 in Ottawa. Since this is being organized by CERB members for other CERB members, please do not bother the MOD about this event. It will be held a centrally located venue in Ottawa. It will be in a reserved room of a public bar/restaurant. It will run from approximately 6:30 p.m. until closing time. There will be a variety of music played and dancing will be encouraged. There will be a limit of 60 spots available (ideally 30 gents/30 ladies), on a first-come, first-served basis to those members in good standing who have some presence on the board or in the hobby (if you have a low post count, but good rep, that's all we care about). There will be a cost for gents to attend and tickets will be available starting the first week of April. You will be able to pay by e-mail money transfer, postal money order or cash (in person in advance to me.). The price of the tickets will be $45. This is to cover drinks for the ladies, appetizers, door prizes and other expenses associated with organizing these events. There will be no cost to the ladies to attend, however you will have to confirm 3 days before the event that still intend on coming due to the fact we always sell out and end up with a waiting list. If you didn't get a chance last time, you will be given first priority. I am looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones. This is a meet and greet social event in a public venue (no hanky panky :smile:) and as with past events, expect all attendees to behave accordingly. Remember, CERB members from all across Canada (and elsewhere) are welcome to attend. If you think you might like to join us, feel free to pm and let me know. Angela of Ottawa Your humble social organizer.

If you were not her customer you may want to just skip this and move on to next thread. If this upsets or offends anyone I apologize. Out of respect I am asking you keep any comments of poor taste to yourself and simply ignore this post if it bothers you in any way. If the mods decide this isn't appropriate I understand and apologize. Ok, lots of guys have been asking about Jen and out of the blue she called me the other day. She is doing well and thanks everyone for asking. She asked me to pass on a message and to be honest I am not real comfortable doing this or even sure it's appropriate but as a good friend of hers, here goes ..... Some of you know that she suffered a tragedy a while back, shortly after she left work in Ottawa. She lost her youngest son and BF in a car accident due to a drunk driver. They were on the way to see Jen who was in the hospital, her older kids were hurt pretty badly but recovered nicely since. There is WAY more to this story than meets the eye and this is where I struggle to know how much or what to say. I had seen Jen a few times after the accident as a friend to support her and we talked a lot as she knew I had lost a son as well. But 5 months later I started a project for work that involves travel. Upon return her phone numbers no longer worked and I decided she wanted to be left alone so I did not pursue contacting her in any way. I'll just mention that her son predicted his own and his father's death (this was confirmed to me by Jen's daughter) and in a strange twist of fate contributed to the accident which took their life. All of these unusual events have caused Jen to find religion. She quit massage and is doing hair only in BC. This all sounds unusual I am sure but keep in mind I am relaying this for Jen. Before his death her son told Jen that he was going to go to heaven soon but warned Jen that she was going to hell with her customers. This is what has Jen concerned and why she has changed her life but feels VERY strongly that her former customers need to be warned of this. She feels she can't truly be at ease until this is said so here I am feeling very conflicted writing this. She misses her customers who were also friends and wants them to know. She also extends an invitation to call her if you like, I will pass on her phone number via PM if you can convince me you were a friend of hers who will not call to upset her. Keep in mind she lives on the west coast and this is long distance, so it will cost you to call her. And don't expect a quick call if you want her to elaborate :) Those of you who know me will know this is no hoax and I do not endorse or condone the sentiments or beliefs expressed by Jen. This is her request and as a good friend of hers I am putting myself out on a limb to help her, much as I have done through the years.

Speaking for Ottawa alone, the media now contacts POWER (Prostitutes of Ottawa-Gatineau Work, Educate, Resist), a local sex worker advocacy group made up of current and former sex workers when they are doing articles related to sex work. The fact that they are even thinking of sex workers themselves before doing their articles speaks volumes. Sex workers never used to be consulted before.

Indeed! It came with a pleasant, cheerful chauffeur. A very nice late afternoon and evening here while we enjoy such beautiful weather. Btw, I like the photo of the rhododendron you posted. Beautiful!

My comment was just a generalization it wasn't aimed at anyone. It's just a topic few so called followers refuse to acknowledge. I also agree with your comment that religion does suppress human rights on all levels and woman especially.

I presume such a wish would include a staff of, "appropriately qualified" chauffeurs. After all: What is image alone? One must have splendor along the way. PatrickGC

OMG this totally made me laugh cause it just happened! Sometimes in the heat of the moment you forget to inspect the damn thing before putting it on!

Very well sai! I'm the opposite end of the spectrum, have always been very thin. And it's very difficult for me to add weight. One thing I told an ex of mine, is to not obsessed with the number on the scale. Especially when you start working out and so on. You'll burn off a lot of water and drop weight fast, but then once the muscle starts to really build up, that number may start rising again. It's more about the view/image (and everyone prefers something different) than any number some bathroom scale will show.

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My Charlie aka Sir Charles Peesalot Additional Comments: Who made this mess? video

Tonight, chocolate cake, chocolatissimo

But will you be wearing pants OD? Inquiring minds want to know. See you there cutie! What better opportunity will there be to mix with the most beautiful women in Canada and get to know your fellow hobbyists??? Lee Richards will be there and he has promised to wear pants!!!

I came here to post this and you already did! :) The amount of useful information in these articles is simply staggering and I'm deeply grateful to those who did the research and to Samantha for bringing it to our attention. Here's the Supreme Court website showing preparations for June 12/13 "2013-03-07 Appeal hearing scheduled, 2013-06-12" http://www.scc-csc.gc.ca/case-dossier/cms-sgd/dock-regi-eng.aspx?cas=34788

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I said all that I ever intend to say regarding religion and the hobby on the religion thread. I will say however, that The Sessions is an excellent flick featuring the great wm. Macy and Helen Hunt's most excellent naked middle aged bod.

I never knew Jen and like others am glad she was able to put her life back in order but her message (intended for her clients not even me) did make me thinking a lot and re-evaluating my life style..... My best wishes to her.

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She was in Sat afternoon before last. Additional Comments: Barbie come to life.

I believe there is good people and bad pleople... I believe in being a good person as the one that doesn't do things to hurt others... Yes there is evil... The evil of evyous people, the evil of people that is ready to step on others to reach goals... Wether there is a devine being to judge us... That I am not sure of... I do not believe in religious institutions... Such as churches as they are run by human beings like you and me... Normal people that can make mistakes and judge others with unjustice... I believe in not harming others... What I do as an MA brings happiness to many... Great topic for discussion ;)

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A note from a friend, a post on my page, an exchange of pm's with someone new, or reconnecting with someone I haven't heard from in a while. It's all about friendship.

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I am sure you want to re explain this and tell us why ( seems to me ) you think "banging " a woman as you say to the kill is a good thing. I am very interested in your thoughts on this. I am actually very happy to hear this expression so I may avoid in the future being " banged to the kill" . This does not sound the least bit enjoyable to me so thanks in advance for the lingo I may have missed:)))

I should probably just leave it alone but...wow..umm...just wow! Pretty sure I've never 'killed' a partner before. I'd be curious to know if the SP you 'banged the best' feels the same way about the encounter! A little class goes a long way.

Lol.....I'll let others discuss. I think I hear the theme song from Jaws on this thread. Emly J....... cute response! I know where the ladies are coming from. I'm old enough to slow down, smell the roses, and appreciate the finer things life has to offer........like the company of an amazing lady for awhile. There's another 4 letter word for intercourse..."talk"... and I can talk the ear off most people.

Just in light of what Hannah Star said HEHEHEHE She is VERY good at it I have been on the other end with her Hope to be again very soon

I've been fascinated by what some would call "ultimate questions" all my life. Things like, What is good and how do we know it? What is bad or wrong and why? Is there a purpose to life, and if there is, what is mine? Who are you and how might I best engage with you? Who and what am I responsible for, and how do I express my responsibility? What does it mean to be a human being? What do all human beings need most in order to live well? These kinds of questions have led me to study a lot of things: literature, art history, anthropology, philosophy, ethics, psychology, modern and ancient religions. (I thought university was an incredible sandbox and I played in it a lot, for a long time.) Being a white, middle class person of northern European descent living in North America and wanting to understand the underpinnings of my own culture, I've studied an enormous amount of Christian theology and history. I'm not religious in any conventional sense. Like many people, I have practices that I follow almost by rote, whether in terms of things I do during the day or at different times of the year. I have ethical and moral principles, too. But I'm very suspicious of organized religion. Religion is about fear. It's about control, often including domination and manipulation. Religions play on human needs for community, for acceptance and security, making these things available to some and rejecting others who don't follow particular practices or state particular beliefs. They empower elites to determine others' worthiness and to manipulate their behaviour, often by employing strategies against or requiring actions of others that are not expected of the elites, or not to the same degree. Even so, many people often find comfort, meaning and purpose from their religion. As far as they are able to engage in things that are life-giving, I don't criticize them. I think that most people are aware of many of the excesses that are possible with some religions, though it's often harder to see the problems associated with our own. I believe in God, though it's not easy to explain or characterize what I believe except to say that, for me, God is ultimate reality, or the ground of being. The thing that connects us to each other and to the cosmos. I like Jesus. He wasn't religious, either. He was more concerned with how people lived and understood their lives than he was with religion per se. I think that he was murdered because he did or said something that upset the religious authorities enough that they turned him over to the Romans who, in turn, executed him. I think we often respond to radically good people the same way. I don't worry about my eternal salvation. I don't give anyone the power to convince me that I'm a bad person. I don't need to be saved from God because I don't believe that God is an angry judge who wants to squash me or anyone else into the ground unless we somehow jolly him into thinking we're good. As for working in the sex trade, well, I notice that most human beings need human contact to be their best human selves. For some people, it's enough to have good social relationships or to engage with others in specific ways. But for most people, without physical contact, including sexual contact, something withers inside them. I don't think that we are intended to be alone. Isolation can occur in the midst of families and between people who have been together for a long time. I'm interested in other people and I'm willing to help address some of these intimate, personal needs. While it's true that most of the men I see are married, and while I recognize that many people consider what my clients and I are doing to be immoral, I see things differently. I have transactional engagements with my clients. They pay me for the time I invest in focusing on them and their needs. I have no interest in upsetting anyone else, especially their partners and families. I'm also not a therapist. What I provide is care and attention that I'm often told is energizing, optimistic and helpful. More men than many people realize say that the time they spend with paid companions actually helps them go home to be better husbands and fathers than they might be otherwise. Of course this isn't true for everyone. Sex can be about a lot of things. Not all of them are noble and some of them can be outright dangerous, destructive and deadly. But we can say the same about other industries, too. Consider, for example, banking....