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I have communicated to him. He is safe. But He cant talk about it...for whatever reason. I hope to stay in touch often.

I'm not sure what context Miss Jane is bringing up, if it's specific to this industry, please ignore the rest of this post. When I was younger (I feel old saying that, but in reality just about 7 or so years ago), I met this girl who was all kinds of messed up. She was nice, but for certain reasons, she had a very low self-esteem, dabbled in some dangerous activities, and in other ways, in a bad place. I helped her through some of it, I'm happy to say that I did a decent job, she's headstrong and accomplished now. On her way to bigger and better things. But that relationship really did a number on me. I do believe I was well intentioned, but it did start to feel weird when she became more independent. It's hard to put into words, because saying it really makes me feel a disgusted with myself, and even though everyone here is more or less a faceless avatar, it is a bit shameful to admit this. I resented when she did become better, or healed so to speak. Being that person who was a confidant, a crutch, it made me feel better about myself. I realize now I had my own self-esteem issues, if my 'white-knight' self was using all of this as a confidence booster. 7 years may not seem that long to some here, but I wonder about that little kid, wonder how I could've been that person. I guess based on my own experience, I do have a negative correlation to white knight. I've learned that it's good to do something nice for others, and okay to feel some sort of satisfaction. But it is a small component of my life. I am on occasion hesitant helping people, especially women who are my age. I try to wonder if I'm doing it for the right reasons, or because I feel as if I want something more. This has turned out to be a bit of a rambling, so I'll stop here. Hopefully this was to point.

I thank you all for the positive thoughts and comments. I want everyone to understand that this has nothing to do with health or a broken relationship. My grandfather told me to do what's right and not what's easy in life, so I did. I made the decision long ago to take a path in life knowing there would be a great deal of personal cost and there has been, but it had to be done. For all those who think you can help, unfortunately you can't. I have to walk this path alone and I knew that when this all started...it is my burden to bare, and mine alone. Spud271

I have to admit that I get asked this question more and more these days. I'm aware that as an independent we can do what we want, but I do not appreciate the insistence or the handful I have to occasionally deal with in person after I have made myself clear before we meet. If a provider tells you she offers manual massage only, please don't see her anyway thinking she may change her mind. It's troublesome to be in an appointment with someone that does not understand the services that are outlined very clearly beforehand. The kicker is when I'm told who does.. My question back is why are you here and not with that person? To try to deceive is terrible and I sincerely feel the art of erotic massage has been lost in this grey area.

you reached out with this thread but you haven't been back. Forgive me if this has been posted I didn't see it anywhere. Please get in touch with someone here http://www.crisisline.ca/ hugs across the miles. We have ALL been there. Please be ok.

A few years ago, a touring lady from Toronto was here in Ottawa ( I had seen her once before), we were to see each other the next am. When I texted her for location, she asked if she call me, I said "yes of course". She called, was crying on the phone, she had been robbed by 3 guys the night prior to our appointment. The guy came to her door, and before she could get the door closed the other two barged in, they cleaned her out cash wise, it was a late appointment around 11pm. Needless to say she reported the robbery to police,her room was already paid for, so I met her outside her Hotel (a four star hotel commonly used by providers), she was sitting on her suitcase, teared up. I took her to bus station, bought her return ticket,(she bussed and came one way, and to see the city and didn't know how long she would stay) and I gave her my donation of the intended agreement between us, so she could eat on the way home and have some money. This is NOT being White knight, as far as I'm concerned, this was simply doing the right thing, when someone is in tears,upset, and lost everything in the past 2 days, I think helping that person out was the appropriate thing to do. We stayed in touch over the following year, she never came back to Ottawa, because of that situation, and last email from her was she was retiring and going back to school.

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Aside from clean and all that has been discussed, I enjoy a visit that is a real visit. Most of my dates are very social and yes we could rush and finish up in a hour. I do prefer more though. I enjoy most when people have bothered to read about what interests me and engages in conversation. Same on my part, as much as I am permitted professionally to know my guest that is what I like. A guest can be the very nicest and have needs that are met the way they like but if you don't like to talk you probably won't be back to see me.

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After retiring in May 2012, and 36 years as a CTV Ottawa news anchor, Leigh Chapple has passed away at the age of 58. Leigh was also a long time instructor at Algonquin College. Leigh and her husband both retired at same time from CTV, to spend more time together. An awful shame, the cause of her death is unknown at this time, but apparently she died peacefully. As an avid watcher of our local news, (CJOH local news) she will be missed by her colleagues. R.I.P. Leigh Chapple.

Every year my children and I pick one angel each off the angel tree and use Christmas money they get from there grandparents to buy the presents. I believe it's very important for my kids to get involved in giving back. This year my son asked if he could buy presents for kids that would be in Cheo over the holidays. So we are doing that as well :) We also give to the food bank all year long and donate clothes that no longer fit them to a local shelter.

I have two! And generally feel I'm ahead a bit if I trade them for bishops.

Toy mountain does accept cash, cheques (made to The Salvation Army) as donations and off course unwrapped toys.

Charitable giving, whether through money or time, is very important. At this time of year I always make donations to local food banks and toy drives. Toy drives seem particularly important to me as no child should be without a new toy at Xmas. Over the winter I also make sure my kids recycle their old winter coats to the various charities that make sure kids get winter coats. On a more permanent, year round basis, I make monthly donations through payroll to the my local United Way. Porthos

Emily and Nicolette have said it all...i will only add...shaving your private area is also part of good hygiene. I know a lot of gentlemen here have a SO and if you suddenly start shaving she might get suspicious...but maybe start with a little trim down...she might actually like it :D There is nothing like a clean shaven or trimmed area...yummy!!!!

Dude, I'm not sure if we've ever interacted on here. But things are not as bad as they seem. I'm going to lift the veil of secrecy and let you in on a little secret. I'm not the happy jovial guy I pretend to be on here. I have an illness (to all my lady friends, it's NOT contagious) that will either kill me or eventually make my life unbearable. So I live each day like it's my last. And I'm having a great time. Whatever your problem is, it's probably temporary, so hide in your shell for a bit and then come out and have fun again. If I can have fun, then so can you.

From the RCMP's press release, Project "Combative" targets a criminal organization involved in the smuggling and trafficking of Romanian nationals in Canada. My thoughts, based on the press release. If there is a criminal organization bringing Romanian nationals into Canada and they are made to be sex workers, then yes, I hope law enforcement investigates and the Crown prosecutes them. It sounds, just from what I can take from the RCMP press release, this is more of a case of sex trafficking. This is the ugly side of prostitution and police should target it. The Romanian nationals sound like they are being pimped out by the criminal organization, hence the reason that organization is targeted by the RCMP. We aren't talking about consenting adults here At least that's what I take from the press release RG

I just want to bring my comments to this thread. When I chose to begin this hobby, and I want to thank CERB for that, I valued a lot the values of safety, discretion and in some ways the ethics of the providers that advertize on CERB. The last thing I want to experience with this hobby is being put in a situation where my life, my job and my reputation would be compromised by some people that don't care about safety. We fight against BBFS,, we fight for any unsafe sexual practices,we fight for discretion either from the providers and the hobbiests, we fight against "bait and switch", we shoudl also fight against any other behaviour that put us at risk; and a MA working in a Spa that offers FS or BJs is putting us at risk. I'm not a saint, and when I go to a spa, the emotions of the moment, (let's say that sometimes we think with our penises...) the temptation is real; even "the risk" can be tempting. But in front of judge, when the Ottawa Citizen will talk about the Johns, and your name is on the list, I'm sure that regrets will rise, and the point of no return has been passed. Too late. I appreciate the spas that seems very rigourous about the limits of what the MA can offer, and I have experienced that they stick to it; discretion and safety are the main reasons for me to use their services. Au contraire, when I learned that some MA in some spas offers "more", and I wont even think to get there; for me, these spas are like a mine field where it can explodes in my face any time. I'm a promoter of safe sex, and safe sex is not only a health issue. Why we would put our life and safety at risk when it can be prevented? There are son many possiblities in this business, there are so many indies that offer a range of high quality services in a clear and safe environment, that I don't see any reason to take a risk to ask and get a service that would be illegal. If my expectations is to get the full service, I wont go to a Spa. Period. And if ever, I would hope to have a more extended service, I would ask if the provider offers outcalls.

LF = Looking For

Now defeated, disgraced, humiliated, brokenhearted, ill, broke, rejected by my homeland and every person I ever loved or cared about...I'm done with everything... Bye...Spud271

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Classy and Sexiness all in one package! The Most Sex Level Intensity you'll ever find in a sensual massage. 5"8', legs that won't quit, an oh so spank-able ass, blue eyes, long blond hair... I'm what dreams are made of. Nuru & Erotic Massage at it's finest! Privacy and absolute discretion. 100% independent... I do what I want! Conveniently located Downtown in a lavish condo, a perfect lil paradise. Hours for the rest of December: Wednesday, December 11th 2pm to 10pm Thursday, December 12th 10am to 10pm Saturday, December 14th 11am to 6pm Monday, December 16th 10am to 10pm Wednesday, December 18th 6pm to 10pm Thursday, December 19th Still to be determined Monday, December 30th 10am to 10pm We won't go all the way.. but it will sure will feel like! An unforgettable time together is always a promise. Let's make some fond memories. Please contact me for more information. Call: 613-482-1553 Email: [email protected] Text Message: 613-909-8336

piano8950, I know what you mean. I once went through a phase with a lady like that myself long ago. I don't think she needed or wanted saving and in retrospect, I think it was very arrogant of me to assume that I knew better what was 'right' for her. It ended in misery and as I look back, I really have to question my own motives. At the time I felt that I was pure of heart but in retrospect, I think a lot of it was ego and low self esteem on my part. Trying to make myself feel better by being a selfless saint, rescuing this poor helpless girl with no ulterior motives whatsoever. What a crock of shit. Treat women like people and take the time to listen and understand them and don't assume you know the answers to their problems or even what their problems are in the first place. Chances are you're wrong and chances are you're doing it for the wrong reasons anyway.

As long as we no the limits, I love been told what to do. I no how to be a good girl and obey although sometimes I can act out and I'l let you do the punishing! Click this bar to view the full image. About me: I am very outgoing, open minded, sensual, playful. My services include full body massage, Hottub sessions and reverse massage and I cater to some fetish's. Everything that goes on in our session together is 100% confidential ! And that goes both ways! This Week, you can find me in the west end, Paradise Spa Wedsnday 11:00am - 4:00pm 613-820-8887 to book your time! Click this bar to view the full image.

ill make you pour!! Good Morning Gentlemen, I'm Sasha, a young fit and playful MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic massage will relieve your tension & leave you more than satisfied. I'm very fun, open minded and comfortable to be around so let's make this experience as enjoyable and naughty as your fantasies.. I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, nice round booty, brunette with blond highlights, golden tan, seductive lips, hazel bedroom eyes, 100% natural beauty.. Services: Non-rushed service Full erotic body massage Reverse massage Slippery body slides reverse body slides Shower for 2 Hot tub fun Relaxing music Fresh towels & linens Duos Some fetishes ATM available on site Schedule: Wednesday: 12:30pm-11pm Thursday: 9am-4pm Friday: 9am-4pm http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=146238 Join me for some hot steamy fun call: 613-820-8887 or 613-614-2117 Incall location only! -Sasha xxx

Hello Gentlemen!! My name is Chasity! I am new to this, but so far , enjoying this sensual adventure I am on! Outgoing and bubbly I will make you feel at ease the moment you step into my world.. Your time with me will be spent enjoying what it feels like to truly be pampered. I will excite all your senses and put you over the edge. I am a tall, fit , brunette with 34DD's. Sneak a Peek at my albums ( my profile is a work in progress!) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=8247 You can find me at CMJ ... where all your fantasies will become reality.. My Schedule Wed Dec.11th 4:00PM - 10:00PM WEST LOCATION Thur Dec 12th 10:00AM - 10:00PM WEST lOCATION Friday 13th 10:00AM - 7:00PM EAST LOCATION Not a Member of CMJ yet? That's okay PM to be my VIP Guest! Chasityxxoo www.clubcmj.com 613-523-6199

Hello Gentlemen, My name is Mandy..Kissed by the angels, I have milky white skin that is freckled in all the right places. Sexy Strawberry Red Head I am 5'6, Slim Body, 36DD ...this sexy kitten will be playful and keep you guessing... With a strong desire to please, I will keep you on your toes until the very last second... I promise an Experience you won't soon Forget! ..I Look Forward to Meeting You & Exceeding your Expectations.. Schedule For Week of Dec.9th - 15th Wednesday Dec. 11th 11:00AM - 7:00PM Friday Dec.13th 10:00AM - 4:00PM You can find me at ClubMadellynJae www.clubmadellynjae.com 613-523-6199 Not a Member? PM me about being My VIP Guest!

Hello darlings!!! I've been super busy with school. But now I'm back just in time to put the ho ho ho into your holidays. Let's have some play time xoxoxo Call 6135236199 or PM me for availabilities Age:20 Height: 5'8 Weight: 130lbs Bust: 34D In the Eastend location of CMJ so hurry and dont miss out!! Wednesday, 9am-4pm Recommendations: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...light=stacycmj

Jondalar - the fun and excitement of a newbie! No need to be nervous. If I may suggest, pick one of the slightly older gals, they will set you at ease. I have rarely had a bad experience there, but remember YMMV depending on who you meet. Give us a report back, so we can relive our first visits too!

my sister's terrier poodle puppy , whenever i visit she comes to me and lays at my feet with her head on my foot . feeling her breath on my foot as she breathes .

Ya I would think, as I know we have common friends. I have been in this same situation, once at my cottage with NO internet..NO phone connection, someone called me a fake and all that it was is that I REALLY HAD NO ONNECTION.. UNO, sometimes we loose phones, drop in tub, or have a personal issue that needs attention. UNLESS this is a reoccurring problem many times over, perphaps give the benefit of the doubt !!

Suggest seeking professional help if no one has already. Some issues require more assistance than us amateurs (though well meaning) can provide. Peace MG

Yes if you want to make a cash donation we will make sure it is sent along with the toys! Talk to Mistert or myself at the social. And Thanks!

I like to hear of this as well. There's nothing better than snuggling up into a tight embrace... spooning has it's place! :)

Oh Wow!!!! I love this idea Very wonderful, I love love love to cuddle Mmmm it's so nice to be wrapped up in a tight embrace Hope Ottawa really catches on to this Kisses and Stay Sexy

I make a donation to the MS Society every year and I donated directly to one research group that does MS research right here in Ottawa. Tell me more about Child's Play. I have an XBox that is collecting dust with about 5 or 6 games, most never played.

Sophia is a gem!

Honest to god truth, a few months ago after a particularly hot chat exchange with Savannah Lane I had to close my office door and releive the pressure. She can be quite "exciting" even in written form. I can't remember if I told her or not. LOL

Oh most definitely. Some days more than once! When the mood strikes, it strikes hard!!! Home or at work, makes no matter.

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Monkeys with machine guns. Sure they look really cute, but those little bastards are trained killers. Ninja monkeys are worse. Zombie ninja monkeys are even worser. Don't get me started on the Vegan zombie ninja monkeys with machine guns. That's even worserer. The worserest? Hipster vegan zombie ninja monkeys with machine guns - they don't even need the guns. They are lethal. I think I need to talk to my doctor about the meds.

When I was visiting a few months back I saw SS in PEI and posted a reco in that section. I had no issues texting her and setting things up there so give her a little slack based on her explanation. I drove back to Charlottetown from Freddy to see her a second time so that should give some idea of how highly I valued my time with her. She is gorgeous and affectionate, wish she would cum to Ottawa as I miss her!

Then she'd be history in my book, I don't spend money on girls who don't warm up by the first song. :icon_lol:

Since I also offer MA services too, I thought I would chime in.... Clearly there are some MA ladies who offer more than HJ's. I have recently lowered my massage rates, to cater to the HJ/massage type of guy. Well....I had to get really specific in one my ads (in the escort section of course ) to state that a massage , HJ and light touching is permitted, but not digits/daty and cbj....since many cerb members contacted me regarding my massage services asking for the items that are more suited for a GFE. At least once a day, (mind you I also advertise elsewhere too) -I am asked if my massage services comes with a bbbj-cim-daty.

As long as we no the limits, I love been told what to do. I no how to be a good girl and obey although sometimes I can act out and I'l let you do the punishing! About me: I am very outgoing, open minded, sensual, playful. My services include full body massage, Hottub sessions and reverse massage and I cater to some fetish's. Everything that goes on in our session together is 100% confidential ! And that goes both ways! This Week, you can find me in the west end, Paradise Spa Tuesday 5:00pm - 9:00pm Friday 3:00pm - 7:00pm 613-820-8887 to book your time!

Hello Gentlemen I am very outgoing, open minded, sensual, playful and I have a lot of class.My services include full body massage, Hottub sessions and reverse massage and I cater to some fetish's! Everything that goes on in our session together is 100% confidential ! You can find me in the West end of Ottawa, Paradise Spa. This Week's Schedule TODAY 12:00pm - 4:00pm Tuesday 5:00pm - 9:00pm Friday 3:00pm - 7:00pm To reserve your playtime with your little girl 613-820-8887 If you have any question's contact me derectily thru email or PM me [email protected] My Recommendations http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=151528

This is where communication and honesty come in. A lot of problems in relationships aren't anybody's fault, and thinking of them that way puts the focus more on blame than on finding a solution. Relationships change over time because the people in them change, so do the circumstances around the relationship. So couples do need to have honest communication in order to have relationships that are heathly and loving as opposed to a functioning charade. Relationships need to be reevaluated, renegociated, and reworked to match the changing needs and circumstances. And sometimes splitting up is the answer. Divorce doesn't represent a failure or a problem, sometimes it is the solution. I realize a lot of this is easier said than done. A lot of people don't even understand their own motivations and needs, so getting them to comment on them is tricky. If you ask your wife why she doesn't have sex with you anymore, she might not even know the answer, or she might be embarassed to admit it.

l am reiceving golden showers at least once a month like it so so mutch