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Well how about Ron Howard First as young Opie Taylor on Andy of Mayberry Then as Richie Cunningham on Happy Days And now he's a highly respected movie director Just a few movies he is noted for, Apollo13, Splash, Willow, Backdraft, Ransom, The Da Vinci Code just to name a few RG

I'm having a hard time reading this. It seems to me that a lot of people have preconceived notions, not about the bar but about the girls. Why is it that whenever strippers are brought up we have to bring up all that is seedy? I didn't think this needed to be said but here it is -- there are girls that genuinely like what they do. Exploitation happens, of course it does. I assume this to be the case for street level ladies more than any other group (and this needs to be addressed). Strip clubs are an entirely different ball game. I worked in clubs for years. Yes, girls had crappy boyfriends - who hasn't? Yes, some did drugs - not as many as you think. I met one girl in all that time that had a serious addiction and was dancing to support it. One. Dancers do not make the money that did 10 years ago. I know people like to think we are bringing in thousands a night. Wishful thinking. I heard all types of stories about gangs making girls work to take their money. I've never heard if it happening because it isn't worth it. If anyone who is actually involved in the industry has other insight I would love to hear it but rumour and heresay does nothing but hurt the industry's reputation and that of the girls that work in it.

Just watched this show the other night with Ron Howard as the child of a sheriff, I think it was from the 50's. He was very young and has been acting all his life and has turned out fine and to be a great director as well. Shirley temple as well Fame was different in those days perhaps But then again maybe not as Judy Garland is an example of the negative side of childhood stardom. lol, you beat me to it RG:) thanks for naming the show

I hold doors all the time for ladies. I've never once been chastized for it. Having said that, i also have no objections when they hold the door for me. Porthos

Hard to know if the problem is him, his entourage, his family, etc However, i don't have that much sympathy for people who screw up because they have too much( money, fame or power) and ends up on drugs and doing stupid things. Or for those who don't face the consequences. A non celebrity from a poor part of town with abusive parents that did what he did (vandalism, racing under influence) would be sent to jail without question. Even if Justin have "good" reasons to act this way, i don't get why celebrities get to have favor treatments. (well the money they make for the country obviously, but it shouldn't be that way) I think there is a lot of people and situation where people have it much worst and would need more our sympathy and help. People that actually want to be helped and are trying to get better. (i.e. people fighting deseases, depression or those stuck in countries at war)

The BEST example? Ron Howard. Ron Howard was "Opie" on the Andy Griffith Show as a child in the late 50's to mid 60's and re-emerged as Richie Cunningham in the early 70's on the show "Happy Days" Now? Ron Howard is an Oscar winning director. He directed Apollo 13, A Beautiful Mind, Coccoon, The DaVinci Code, etc, etc, etc.... he also was the creator of Arrested Development. The guy has been continuously and more remarkably, quietly, employed in TV and movies since 1959 - when he was just 5 years old. Now, a month shy of his 60th birthday, he has become the epitome of what may happen if a kid has great direction! ______________________________________________________________________ dammit both of you beat me!!!

Well I'll be the stick in the mud here, but frankly I'm kinda sick and tired of hearing about Justin Bieber. Seems every time I log on to the internet msn.com has another story about him. Funny thing though, for a "singer" none of the stories have to do with him as a singer. To me he's just a spoiled little rich kid. And like redskin pointed out, likely this arrest could be the best thing that could happen to him...judging from the smirk on his face in his mugshot maybe a bit of time behind bars could just smarten him up and give him some humility instead of a sense of entitlement and arrogance My two cents RG

Yes my friends, I have done it "my way"! Some may have noticed that my posts and threads are becoming minimal in nature (could be a good thing!). So as an update, the cancer continues to spread and has started to effect some nerves and cognitive stuff on a random basis. Docs tell me this is what I can expect for a while, nothing major, but all things being equal, by spring, my nerve endings will be really screwed up, memory may or may not be effected, speech may or may not be effected. They looked at me funny when I asked about my tongue! Anyway, hanging in, trying to get rid of this blasted cold provided to me by some uncaring asshole. Will continue to stay in touch while I can, hoping to be good for the next Ottawa Social, that is a focus! Will continue to drive and visit as long as I am able. Thanx, hope you all have a great weekend, play safe, play often and give the ladies lots of licks, kisses and hugs (YMMV)!!!!! Tom TheLiquor

It seems over the last year or so that every other media story out there is a tale of some young person or childhood stars who, older now, has gotten themselves in trouble or caused some sort of scandal or controversy. It's nothing new, I know, but between Lindsey Lohan's drug relapses, the national debate on Miley Cyrus twerking, and now Justin Bieber's arrest, it seems a common story these days and is enough to make one think no young person can be prepared for widespread success. So, cheer me up people! Restore my faith! Surely there are a lot of childhood stars out there who made it successfully to a stable adulthood. Tell me your favourite! Share an example! To start, I'll throw out Neil Patrick Harris. One of the shows I grew up on was Doogie Howser M.D: And Neil Patrick Harris is still entertaining today, and seemingly even more awesome and stable in real life than his current t.v. persona:

"Little Stevie Wonder - The Eighth Wonder of the World" had his first hit record at 13 with "Fingertips (Pt. 2). It's impossible to say enough about Stevie Wonder... Ellen Page - Started working on the Pit Pony when she was 10 and the moved on to performances in Rock Candy, Juno, X-Men and Inception. So far so good on the personal front. Julie Andrews - Starred in UK theatre productions when she was 13 and then Mary Poppins, Sound of Music and Victor/Victoria. She's made it to 78 so I think it's safe to say she made the transition to successful adult ;-) Anna Paquin - Second youngest person to win an Academy Award at 11 for Best Supporting Actress in The Piano. She's also done Fly Away Home, Almost Famous, X-Men and True Blood. (Tatum O'Neil was the youngest Academy Award winner at 10 for Paper Moon, but unfortunately hers is a different story entirely.) Tony Williams - OK this pick is a little obscure, but I think it's amazing that he lived to be a clean and successful adult. Tony was the most influential drummer since the 1960's and began playing with major jazz artists when he was 13 and joined Miles Davis when he was 16. Considering he was around significant hard drugs and alcohol on a daily basis during his adolescence it's amazing that he never developed any addictions. Unfortunately he died at 52 following minor surgery. Scarlett Johanson - Started in film when she was 10 and major roles when she was 12. Other than the usual celebrity gossip about her love life, she seems to have made the transition OK.

Drew Barrymore

Mayim Bialik...or as most of you would remember her, Blossom: Of course she's now on The Big Bang Theory, and in between she managed to pick up a PHD in neuroscience!

Here a couple of photo's I thought would be nice to share:) I took these in Cuba while visiting a family that lives in a small village out side of Varadero. Hope you like them!

The gorgeous and philanthropic Leonardo Dicaprio.

Hilary Duff, for someone who is more of a contempory of Beiber and Cyrus. She was a cute child star, she didn't do anything really stupid, she grew up and still didn't do anything stupid, got married, had a kid, still being offered roles so she doesn't have to go off the rails and do anything stupid. :) I think Shirley Temple did not make the transition into a teen or adult movie star, which I think suited her just fine. She had a chance to become US Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia and a few other appointments, including representative to the UN. She also apparently sat on the boards of corporations and organizations, including Walt Disney Company, Del Monte Foods and National Wildlife federation. which i find interesting lol. My mother was a huge fan of Shirley Temple, who was born about a year earlier than she was, so i know a lot of ST films and biography lol.

Most times, whenever a child becomes a star, they stop being a child in the eyes of their parents and become a golden goose instead; a revenue stream to be managed. Most adults aren't capable of handling that kind of fame and celebrity, let alone a teenager, and when his parents decided he was a cash cow and no longer their son, his story was destined for a tragic ending (which I don't think we'll see quite yet). I'm not absolving him of responsibility, but his negligent, greedy parents are just as guilty.

Not all men are gentlemen, and not all women are ladies. I don't think such response to your chivalry would come from a lady's mouth. I think you always win at being a gentleman, and it's their own lost if they don't appreciate perfect manners.

Wil Wheaton of Stand by Me / Star Trek TNG fame. Now a successful author as well as still appearing on tv as a guest star once in a while.

When you've had enough and at your wits end, having a dog come over and put his chin on your lap. Dogs KNOW when you have had a tough day... and they are the best at making you feel better.

The best way to find out about our club and membership is to book an orientation. We will be more then happy to assist you in your decision about joining. CMJ definitely isn't for everyone but, for many, CMJ is their only, or one of their many choices. The great thing is Ottawa has so many great choices and so many amazing women! Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you, Jasmin & CMJ team Sorry just realized I posted with a staff account that was logged into work computer. Mod if you could change? LOL thank God its Friday, I am exhausted! Jasmin

No that's a common misconception. However, they do tend to attract organized crime. A few clubs I've worked at have a heavy HA presence as they are the ones bringing in the drugs. I do not partake in those activities though so it took me a whole to pick up on what exactly was happening. The pink is actually owned by a lively older lady and run my her brothers. Her son does the cleaning. It's a family business

Duo etiquette rules: 1. Choose providers who either have seen each other naked or can stomach seeing each other naked. 2. Choose providers of the same species or genus. For example, do not ask if a provider will work with a chia pet, velociraptor or plank of wood as a duo partner. 3. If you have a kink about clothing, make sure that one or both of the providers do not show up in the same outfit you are wearing. One of you is going to look better and the other will cry just a little bit. 4. Establish well before the encounter who gets to be Batman, who gets to be Robin and who gets to be Alfred the butler. You can't have two Batmans. That's an international convention. 5. Establish a bacon friendly environment. Everyone loves bacon and if they don't, they can't be part of the duo. 6. If you own an iguana and it is fed through an ingenious contraption that automatically dispenses food onto an an awaiting plate, make sure that both providers see and understand. Everyone needs to know about reptile dish function. (or was that erectile dysfunction??? Maybe I heard it wrong.) 7. Gifts are nice but be equal in the distribution. You can't give a bottle of champagne to one provider and a package of lime jello to the other. 8. Nobody is allowed to fart. That's against the rules. 9. If you are playing Risk as part of the encounter, always remember to establish in Australia and secure Siam. That's a guaranteed 3 extra guys every turn. Duo chicks dig Risk. 10. Margarine should never be used as part of a fantasy. Always use premium dairy products, not corn or other vegetable based substitutes. 11. There is no 11, please proceed to 12. 12. I was kidding about 11, there is no 12. 13. Skip the clown fetish. It's weird and will freak EVERYBODY out. 14. Lube and crazy glue should never be kept in the same drawer. Trust me on that. 15. If you are new to the duo game, please don't send pictures of your penis to either partner. You'll get penis cooties and be unable to perform. ... that's what I have so far.... but then again, I am tired.

K, guy's I need to address this question. And hope to get info from you as well as educate you on this topic:) When I am asked if MSOG is included, I will say " depends mostly on you" This means, YOU should be aware of YOUR limitations and ability. I will not typically offer MSOG on half hour meetings, as MOST can not do it, and makes for an uncomfortable moment whereas the guy tends to say " well you said I could!" So in other words, If you pop off in 2 min, of course I will offer you or ask you how you would like to spend the remaining of your time. Today, I am asked is msog included I said yes, in 45 min or hour sessions, HH is usually not possible. He proclaimed he could, but was not able to :( Then decided it was MY fault! And HER fault! NOT COOL AT ALL! When booking an hour, I expect MSOG will be very possible, but still it mostly depends on your own limitations and capabilities! Nothing kills the mood more then, when a guy is trying to get off as much as possible in the shortest amount of time! Face it, chemistry happens when BOTH are comfortable and cozy with no stress and pressure! I hope that our treasured hobbyist understand this, and respect this? As a hobbyist on CERB, is this something you already understand or did you have to learn this? I am putting this out there as I have had some issues in dealing with this topic, and wonder if MSOG is suppose to be a " guarantee?" when one has agreed on it? If it has to be guarantee, then I will opp out from that option. As I do not feel this is fair to me or the lady. I WILL GURANTEE THE TIME YOU RESERVE IS THE TIME THAT IS SPENT, however..it is really up to you to book the appropriate session that will satisfy your physical or emotional needs. Gosh, thanks for the rant time, but it is so difficult to know what PPL are thinking and to predict these things. Happily to report this person will NEVER book with us again! lol... So if you ask us, is MSOG included, first ask yourself if YOU can do it?

Lol that makes sense. I was just at the classier peeler bars ;) (I say that with all due irony lol)

All from the Mickey Mouse club Birtney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Ryan Gosling, Like it or not, Miley Cyrus from Hannah Montana Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato from Barney

Sin Cindy gives an amazing BJ!! Emily J .... without a doubt is fucking awesome!

Even though you don't see too much of her now, Kirsten Dunst was a child star having her debut as Claudia in Interview With The Vampire and then on to Spider-Man fame as Mary Jane. Also, how can we forget dear old Macaulay Culkin and Elijah Wood? Some of these past child stars are seen in fewer and fewer movies, but everyone does take a different passage in life.

They advertise several times a week on craigslist under the heading "Full Body Relaxation Massage". The rates are in their ads. The phone number starts with 779. The tip for a HE is halfway between their 30 minute and 45 minute rates.

I am really glad you did post it here in public section.... knowing this happens regularly makes me think even more highly about you and the amazing SPs in this industry. This support for each other is the kind of thing that the public does not see about this industry... the compassionate human side.

Darla is legit. She is worth the visit. Nothing to be scared of with her. Great girl and enthusiastic.

h-o-l-y moley!!

I can't blame the parents too much. Justin is an adult - my parents could do little to influence and nothing to control me at his age.

Have a great day my friend, Happy Birthday! Enjoy!

Happy Birthday:) May your day be extra special and filled with all you love.

Happy Birthday Peachka.... May you have a wonderful day....

Happy Bday, wishing you a wonderful day xo

Response time should be within 24 hours in this Internet world. This is not the snail mail age.

That is definitely a bad stretch. I'm a scheduler too and usually book well in advance. You have to recognize that people are frequently busy, and juggling bookings, sessions, and all the "hidden from view" aspects of the business can be demanding. In general, i usually use e-mail or pm to make contact. If I haven't heard in a 2-3 days i might send a polite follow-up e-mail. If I don't hear after that, I'd likely move on. Of course, it also depends on when you want your appointment. If you're booking for 3 days in the future, and you haven't heard anything in two days, then it's likely reasonable to assume your preferred time can't be accommodated and move on. If you're booking 3 weeks in advance, you might encounter a slightly longer wait as the lady may be busy booking appointments that are coming up sooner. there are a lot of factors that come into play in deciding what is a "reasonable" timeframe. Porthos

Personally, when I get a hankering for oral, my thoughts turn to SexxxyRebecca. The young woman seems to take great pleasure in pleasuring.

MSOG - Multiple shots on goal. Does that mean you will score on each shot? Unless you are Gretsky, you might not make it into the net. Some guys can do it, some can't. It sure can be fun trying though. My theory - if you want to play the whole time (whether its 30 minutes or an hour), that is what MSOG means. It does not necessarily mean you are going to cum more then once, it means between the 2 of you, you should at least be having fun. BTW - I can cum more then once in a session. Does this count towards the total number of goals? I say yes. As long as she is not ushering you to the door after the first goal, it is MSOG.

I think most men are creatures of variety, either of the 2 spa's you are mentioning are fabulous. That said, I have also ventured to ALO spa's and Vibe Spa, they are also fabulous, along with all the gorgeous ladies working with all the Spa's in the Ottawa area. I find that there is so many beautiful stunning ladies at all places, it is difficult to make up ones mind which lady to visit ;) I certainly have a quite a list going on now :) good luck to you I'm certain you will enjoy venturing out to either place.

Seriously noone on here has seen her? cmon someones gotta gimme something here

Ooooooooooh I GOT one. That prostitution is the world's oldest profession. Nope. The first guy that had to pay had the first profession. He was a mammoth hunter, or a flint sharpener or a Visigoth mercenary or a saber toothed tiger trainer or something like that. Somebody had to have the money to pay the first SP. What probably is more accurate is that prostitution is the oldest CONTINUOUS profession. Glad I cleared that up for you. Carry on.

Stockings and sexy panties really work for me. The stockings occasionally stay on but the panties at some point of the encounter will come off by teeth, hands or feet, I so love removing this exquiste undergarmet especially when it has become dampened by foreplay.

I have to second this thought. There is just something so sexy about a woman in sheer stockings. I have always been a bit of a leg man and for me stockings/nylons just seems to amp it up for me. That being said women are sexy regardless of what they are or aren't ;) wearing, but for me stockings along with a bit of teasing just amps it up for me :)

Hi Tiffany. My comment box cut me off so adding here. I do all my first initial bookings online. An introduction is what I expect in booking. It makes me feel more comfortable to know that I am respected as a lady. Please treat us as one. To approach a lady with these one liners is disrespectful and in my experience, is indicative of a different kind of client that I won't take a chance on. I value my approach and so happy with the Gents that are here and treat us well. :)

This is a very common thing with the ladies... Always looking for the "Reason" the business gets slow at times and always looking for answers as to why they get no shows and cancellation more at different times of the year. Most NO SHOWS can be stopped by screening your calls properly. Use the Caller ID and CALL BACK the number to verify it. Most guys will not pull a NO SHOW on someone without having the decency to call and properly cancel if you have their number. They know that come appointment time one very upset SP is going to give them a call asking WTF! It's not 100% but it sure helps for those who screen calls. It also makes the call a little more safer as that phone number is now a connection between the guy and the lady... I doubt someone dangerous is going to want to leave a number that can be traced back to them. Most of the ladies look for reasons when things are slow. I guess most of us do that when the business we are in takes a drop in sales/traffic/work load/etc.... You can spend a good portion of your day trying to figure this one out but it's not really worth the effort. It's WAY easier to just plan for these lows (Put some money aside for the slow periods) and just accept that this is part of EVERY business and it will happen. Stop stressing out and trying to point a finger at what you think is causing the slowness as your just going to convince yourself of something that is probably not correct. We have been tracking patterns in this industry since 1996 and the answer for this is... (Drum roll please)... It has no pattern EXCEPT for a few obvious LOW spots. 1) The end of Aug is SLOW every year! (Kids out of school, getting ready to go back to school, family summer vacations, etc...) This is the most popular summer weekend in the tourist industry!! 2) 1 week before and 1 week after Xmass (No need to explain this one right?) New years day too? NOT... 3) January/February for 2 weeks every year (We sum this up to winter blues and getting your credit card statements from Xmass! but we never know what two weeks it will be but for sure 2 weeks around this time it does drop... one year we did not see this and come April we saw a real low drop for 2 weeks and that was obvious weather patterns (Long winter/early spring ... warm winter/cold spring etc...) it does effect this business and you never know when this is coming exactly... so just put some cash aside for these times. 4) First nice weekend of spring (A lot of the ladies take this time off too) 5) Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentines, long weekends, really large sporting events (etc)... they also effect the business. The rest has NO identifiable pattern. You can try to blame it on the economy as a low economy brings more people into this business causing more competition and the overall amount of "Recreational money" the guys have gets a lot smaller so yes the economy does effect it but a low economy BUT it also brings more guys (New guys) in to the mix as well so it's not hit as hard as one would assume. Remember money and sex are the two big things couples fight about... When the economy drops and the money gets tight the stress levels go up, the fighting between couples goes up and the sex stops!! FACT OF LIFE... and I hate to admit it but that is good for this business for all you ladies!! When economy starts to get good again business will decrease a little at first! It's OPPOSITE of what everyone ASSUMES! As for NO SHOWS... This time of year it will obviously be higher. Kids are still home from school, Family vacations, relatives coming for visits, back to school shopping, etc.. etc... and all those people taking time OFF work for family vacations makes other people have to work more (Overtime to cover shifts, higher work loads, etc) it's all relevant.... A lot of LAST MINUTE things come up this time of the year for the "Family Man" and well... kids and family (for most people) come first so recreational visits take a back seat so stuff will get canceled more this time of year. Picture this... The guy is all ready to come see the lady he has chosen and the door bell rings and it's his brother or uncle or who knows who just "DROPS BY" for a visit... URH!? Probably with his annoying kids and wife... (Many of us have been in similar situations) This happens EVERY YEAR... Come September 17th (Or around that time) once the kids are back in school and the routine is back... things will pick up. Summer sucks as a lot more things can get in the way or throw a guys schedule off. Don't spend all your time looking for reasons why the business slows down.... it happens to EVERY PROVIDER & EVERY BUSINESS ... It can not be busy 100% of the time and it does take a little planning and anticipation.