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In theory, MOD's definition is warm and fuzzy and what it should be... BUT - (sorry MOD, I doubt you have been an MA) reality is totally different. I have been asked many times as of lately what GFE really means - sadly, some have totally ruined and misrepresented this term - implied and guaranteed DFK, DATY, being fingered, FS and basically everything BUT a relaxing sensual massage. Call me prudish but there has been a change in what is expected in the massage rooms of Ottawa over the last few years. CMJ defines GFE as a "genuinely fabulous experience, girl friend experience" Just like, in REAL life, you don't connect with everyone and wouldn't want just any pretty girl or handsome guy to be your girlfriend/boyfriend. Also in real life, would you want your GF, GFE-ing it up with 5-10 different guys a day? DFK, DATY - lets not forget that now that SP's like to work in some MP's, and the fact that some MP's actively promote and encourage SP services (Blow Jobs and Full Service) in their "massage parlours", your risk for catching all kinds of STD's and STI's (both of the mouth/throat & genitalia area) have dramatically increased. Being selective and genuine is crucial not only for your health but for the longevity of the MASSAGE industry. The lines are being blurred and its very sad. I dont think that GFE guarantees DFK either.... I highly doubt you would play tonsil hockey with someone who has seriously bad gingivitis. Don't I feel sorry for the lady who feels that she can't give a great experience without having to DFK gingivitis boy. I am sorry but man this annoys me... and its a very dangerous road. Call me old fashioned but I am used to the days when GFE was a term that belonged to high end selective courtesans. As MOD said, it implies sensuality - well for me, sensual massage implies that imperatively. Things evolve and change, and I am not against that - however when you take an SP original term and try and apply it to a MA world - you get alot of confusion and blurred lines. Theory and reality are two different things. I hear my staff tell me everyday... and in my opinion, GFE "girlfriend experience" should have stayed an SP term .... hence why CMJ has had to re-define it to appropriately fit into the massage realm. Genuinely Fabulous Experience

John Caines hosts a very popular call in radio show dealing with home renovations. I would like to start a thread where cerbies could ask for suggestions and give advice regarding renos, car maintenance, electronics gardening, etc.... Let's share our hidden knowledge and abilities :) This is the "how to" thread (how to anything....scrapbooking, stainglassing, photography etc....) so share what you are knowledgeable and passionate about and ask questions about what you want to learn!

Making my mom happy... she's suffering from Alzeimer and I went to her place and gave her a bath...yes she's at that level now...although she was reluctant at first I managed to convince her and she thanked me many times...the look of releif on my dad's face...that made my day :) BJ

I think there is a shame when the word prostitute is pronounced and for me a courtesan or a companion makes it more acceptable and classy...just my honest opinion! Oufff...thats a though question!! I truly enjoy what I do and would keep doing it for a long time.....unless.. winning the lottery...no Financial worries ( might keep working still but not as much ;) Falling deeply in love and be supported financialy...:biggrin: I go with first come first serve! I have turned down a reg who contacted me last minute once and I had just got a booking who was confirmed...he suggested i cancel the other for him... No...not gonna happen sorry!

You supply them slave. Call to book your appointment in and become my PLEASED victim, naughty boy 613.820.8887

If the lady has booked a particular date and time for an individual already, even two minutes before me, and I was the regular, I respect the premise of first come first serve. If there is any benefit to being a regular, one shouldn't be bumping a lady's scheduled encounters. As a regular, or even a new client, one thing, first and foremost is to still remember and respect that this is the lady's livelihood, and you expecting her to bump or cancel a scheduled encounter may lead to her lose that encounter for good, which equals to loss of income for her. A gentleman, especially a regular would not want to see a lady lose any income. A rambling RG Additional Comments: I had to cancel last minute once on a lady I see regularly, she got paid in full plus tip by me. While I cancelled last minute due to illness, and it wasn't my fault I got sick, but it wasn't the lady's fault at all...but why should she be at a loss because I was sick. She got compensated in full because she would otherwise be at a loss income wise because she set aside a time and date for me, a time and date I wasn't going to make. And she didn't need to ask me for a cancellation fee, I just had to find out how to get the money to her (email money transfer) A rambling RG

A hug, when it's much needed. A sense of calm and relief is almost instantaneous.

My regular of course! Reputable cerb members still might cancel, or do a no show. Having a good cerb reputation is great but it doesn't mean he'll be a good client for me. If I consider a gentleman a regular then he has been fun, reliable, someone I like and want to see again. Additional Comments: Ill retire when I loose interest in this profession. When that happens it's my time, until then I'll enjoy it;) Additional Comments: To me they are just words. We all give ourselves titles we feel appropriate and comfortable with. Call it what you like they all have the same meaning, more or less.

Yes they are wonderful compliments. The best compliment to me is repeat visits.

Hello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)

What makes you happy....makes you smile, grin from hear to hear...I know you guys will definately come up with the big "O" lol....besides to big "O"... My son just told me...hey mom listen to this: It made me happy instantly :) Doing a good deed makes me happy :) Watching my kids smile makes me happy :) Smiling to a stranger and getting a smile back...nice! Let's get some positive and happy moments here...I'm feeling happy and would like it to be contagious! Thanks for sharing :D BJ

Getting a text from my daughter to see if I'm available for a Skype session. She'll have the baby on for a visit, and he's now able to sit up and starting to recognize whats going on, on the laptop. It's such a treat watching him develop, just seven months old.

Opinion of a guy - what Erin and cmj are posting is the way things always have been and will be unfortunately. But it really is a parallel to life outside the massage service world. Guys that are rude , creepy and gross that don't know how to treat women in the 9-5 world never get laid or have a happy partner either. A key word is respect too. If guys would figure out that the girls workings as MAs don't look at a dude and say..oh I want him sticking his fingers in me right now. Ha. You pay for fantasy but these girls are real people too. Treat them like the beautiful hard working ladies they are. They have to protect their hygiene and bodies too as it is their livelihood and they need a comfort factor. Erin and cmj keep up the high standards as I have personal experience with both. When I'm done a session I know I feel fantastic and the girl feels she met a decent , clean guy that made her day better not worse. That's my two cents... jerks like that and others I think MAs should just give me a swift kick in the balls. What will they do...go home and tell their wives.

Beauty is everywhere and in everything, from an object to a person actions, you just need to look. I can honestly say since me life changed so did my perception. I find beauty in the simplest things in their purest form. A genuine laugh or smile, act of kindness, selflessness. I think as human we've grown accustom to how something should look or be that we've lost sight of what actual beauty is. I know I did, and now that my eyes and mind are open I see beauty everywhere I just have to look.

As an sp, I can honestly say I'm not a hobbiest, never have been probably never will be, I'm on the receiving end. So, to answer your question, in my humble opinion : Not very likely.

I find physical beauty boring. I'd much rather look at someone who is interesting looking, scarred, tatted, someone who has some life on them and maybe even extra weight. But what I think I now know is that kindness shows on a persons face. It shows in their eyes, smile, it's a sincerity that is unmistakeable and to me that is beauty.

People that are there at those very hard times are those to be cherished. It is those times when we all need support. You are very lucky to have such special and thoughtful clients. Additional Comments: Some are aware of how much I love animals and support shelters. So the gents that made donations on behalf of me are my most memorable gifts/favors to date.

Gentlemen, I will be at Tease this Friday, February 28th 7 pm till ? 5029 Bank 613 315 4405

OMG royal, separated at birth? I am sitting in my theater type lazy boy (cup holder, junk food receptacle etc) in my too big pj pants, eating pumpkin seeds with beer and watching .... Wait for it... American Idol and crying when they sing. I am so pathetic! Next, cheezewhiz and whatever I can find to scoop it out of the jar with. Hmmm I have salt and vinegar chips. Wait, baconnaise with cheezewhiz on my finger!

Cerb is becoming a great venue and I find that it is growing due to the ladies promoting it to gents who find them via BP et al. As a provider, I give prioriry to Cerb members so don't be shy about your handle!

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I would agree with Emma, repeat visits would be a better compliment... Means you truly enjoyed their company and would do it again.

Who doesn't like compliments? People love getting them. Compliment away. Sometimes if I compliment a client he thinks I say that to all the guys...no I only say things I mean and like this board if I have nothing nice to say I say nothing at all.

Again only speaking for myself. If your texting me I want it to read like an email. You can first ask if you have the right number but when it's confirmed I want your name etc. Believe me we can write a book on the stupid text messages and emails we get. Lol so be a gentleman and be polite.

We are judged all the time. Sad to say but true. I've been in this situation more then once..sometimes if you tell them right off what you do they think "Wow, all the free sex i can have". That isn't true by the way. wink .If you tell them later then they may walk away or they get it. Some dudes think they get it but it takes a special someone that really does. When dating someone it takes a lot more time to hit the sheets. wink

Your question is a little offensive. Might be better asked "has anyone been with" or "has anyone had an appointment with" or ... well I hope you get the point. Then "she might be worth it"? Brother, these are ladies not objects. Your not going to get much help when your questions read as rude or mean. Your name says "good guy" lets try that... little more gentleman like will get a lot more help here on cerb.

THANK YOU MOD! I dont know what is it so hard for some guys to understand that the GFE term describes a feeling.., the way how a massage session can be very intimate yet NOT NECESSARILY means that they will Get the so called "Extras" ... that the term GFE has nothing to do with An Specific Service... Is An Experience As a whole! THANK YOU AGAIN :)

i pay my accountant by the hour - i pay my lawyer by the hour -i pay my house cleaner by the hour- all professionals -why would your services be any different- except more enjoyable

Saw Avah last night. For some reason I've never heard of her before but she's quite popular and busy at paradise. Formerly from ALO and AAA. Booked my usual 45 min at $65 door fee. Looks: I would say she's got this Amy Winehouse/Kim Kardashian thing going: black thick hair, dark makeup, some tats, kicking body, natural D's, not spinner not fat, just perfect. Awesome ass. Session was pretty awesome. Firm BS, using all her weight on me that felt great. Then she does this thing where she turns over so her back is contacting my back and she slides everywhere with butt rubbing on my back. Nice. Then I flip and she's front to me and flips again so her back is facing me. When I look in the mirror it looks and feels like RCG. Tons of oil, holy shit. Throughout the whole thing I'm actually thinking "I hope I don't slip inside her!" Lol. OK guys, I will say only this: her menu is extensive. PM me if you don't understand what that means. I left satisfied. Damage was on par with what I'd expect. Repeat: sure. However, I'm not sure if I'd repeat every time with her. I'd have to be in the mood for her energy level. Her attitude was amazing, and she's not shy at all. Closest thing I've ever had to what I'd call PSE in a MP setting :). If you're in the mood for a bad girl, go see Avah.

The Canadian Government, more specifically the Department of Justice, just launched a public consultation on "prostitution-related offences". It looks like the window will be open for one month, from today (February 17th) until March 17th. You can provide feedback via email at [email protected] or anonymously via their website, online at <http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cons/curr-cours/proscons-conspros/index.html#2014_02_17>. Bombs away...

Ladies and Gents, i am now making it official, the next Ottawa Social will be held on March 20th, 2014. There is room for 35 ladies and 35 gents. Tickets are now on sale for 35$. Entrance is free for the ladies. As per previous socials, ticket sales will cover a drink for the ladies, snacks (available to anyone) and some door prizes. The socials are never a success without all the attendees and, of course, our sponsors (ALO and CMJ, providers of gifts of the gents for the sat several socials), we also strive to integrate all your comments we receive on site or afterwards. We couldn't improve them without it! We'll do the same for this one in March, bearing in mind we also look to get the "best bang for the buck". Gents, you can pay in person or by email money transfer (you can contact me). Ladies, you can confirm your attendance simply by responding to this thread or by PM'ing me or Loneskater. Cheers!

Feeling 100% woop ;) I am available today 3:30-11pm & Friday 3:30-11pm Hello Gentlemen and thank you for taking the time to check out my ad! My name is Mandy, I am 22 years young, super bubbly, brunette bombshell, with a tight body that will make you say OMG! My curves are in the perfect places and my seductive green/hazel eyes will put you in a erotic trance... My soft hands will paralyze you as I touch you in all of the right spots at the perfect pace, leaving you wanting more, more and more! My bodyslides will keep you moaning while I rub my C cup natural breasts all over you... yummy, wet and slippery :wink: Don't be shy to ask to massage me, I love to be oiled up and my purrrring will keep you going! If your the type who enjoys some sexy company in the shower I am more than willing to get steamy with you. I strive on making my clients feel satisfied! So... why not come over and enjoy yourself I am sure you deserve it! Once your gone you will be left with naughty fantasies and dirty dreams for days. If you are interested in any of the above you will find me at Paradise Spa, located in the west end of Ottawa. It is a place like no other! Very clean, friendly staff, discreet, with an atm on site. The rooms have private showers, fresh linens, soaps, oils/gels, & big mirrors to watch us from every angle possible :wink: To book your sexy session call the spa, 613-820-8887 & request me! Or feel free to PM me for my availability or service inquiries. Yours truly, CandyMandy xox

Rudeness is in the eye of the beholder I guess, but: - Going on a first date or at a business meeting with someone that chews with thier mouth open is a big turn off, - The tough guy who shakes hands with a death grip just to show how strong he is, - public farting, OK when old people do it, its funny, - not holding doors open for the ladies (of any age), - People who could not otherwise talk if they took the word fuck out their vocabulary, - lets not forget about the public "snot miners" Must be having a grumpy day, time for a glass of wine....

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I totally agree Ice4fun...and a true gent would never ask this! The one thing that stood out for me was that a client offered me a massage at the beginning of the appt (1h) and it lasted for 30 min :icon_biggrin:...omfg it was amazing! I felt like a queen!! And a client in NY brought me a BD gift before our second appt :), that was a very sweet thought!!!

I would definitely have to say Hannah Star hands down! But that is just my opinion.

I wake up in the morning, take a wonderfully long hot shower, and step out feeling ready for whatever may await. Looking into the mirror, the sexiest form begins to show through the mist. Then the mist clears. For those few fleeting moments before the veil lifts, however, I see my definition of sexy. And it is good. (Just in case it wasn't clear, that was a little self-deprecating humour there. Yeah. really. I look my best when I have no evidence to the contrary.) LOL... Seriously, though, Cristy hit the nail on the head. I've found, and still do, sexiness in all shapes and sizes, all types of personalities, and varied personal styles. Hard for me to nail it down to one thing. :)

You get a ticket when you buy a drink and you do your plate and a cook puts the meat on the plate I always tip him a toonie They do steak, roast beef, meatloaf.. Very good I think for the price. A draft beer I think is like 6 something and a small pitcher (2.25 beers) is 8.50

I noticed they have an ad on BP now and because of that I was able to run the posted pics. through Google. For some reason the VIP site wouldn't let me right click on the pics. to obtain the URL...mmm wonder why??? Anyway the pics. of "Jade and Jordon" are actually Tess Lyndon and Susan Snow and they are taken from a site called Nasty Porn Pics. That should be enough info. on the VIP agency. Link to the BP ad: http://newbrunswick.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/vip-escorts-is-proud-to-offer-its-ultimate-duo-in-charlottetown-pei-19/1654057

Good question. If there is a toy(s) you like to include in your session for you, by all means leave them out and maybe initiate the activity. I am sure most gentlemen will join in and use the toy on you for your added pleasure. As for toys for boys, if you also have them out it would certainly open up the equipment for discussion and likely end up part of your play time too. A little hint suggesting which toy you love to use on a man to give him added pleasure would probably get welcome responses. Just my thoughts.

that is a really good question... I'm not sure if i would want my man seeing escorts lol...may sound weird coming from an escort but if i was in a Relationship and my SO was seeing escorts I would rather not knowing...I'm being totally honest here ;) BJ Additional Comments: I prefer straight to the point text...and i dont mind getting text anytime. If im busy with family, my phone is on discretion mode so there is no problem there... I do appreciate when the person texting asks where he would like to meet as I travel quite a bit ;) an area code doesnt necessarly tell me his location as he might be traveling ;) BJ Additional Comments: Oh yes of course it is...I think most ladies appreciate compliments...In my case i absolutely love it! BJ xxx

You are right Curiousm...for me beauty starts with a smile...then smiling eyes...then intelligence and a sense of humour, passionate,generous and caring...that for me is beauty! BJ

Latin Women Philosophy... Is better to get there Late..., than get there Not looking good. . Lol

Two thousand posts! What a landmark! Congrats for all your contributions. Best, toine

When it comes to services I'm very open to many things and many conversations. Limits presently include space and instruments and appropriate partners. I love meeting and exploring with someone. Finding out what they like and enjoy and then seeing what else that might expand into. You have to have someone open to a longer term relationship and open communication for that though. I'm very fetish friendly and even if I'm not into something, I think it's great the other person is and would try to recommend someone for them. Mostly for me it's about time and space. @Lee...you can keep the oysters, I'd rather you be the aphrodisiac although nekkid with bibs might be fun! tee hee

Im always excited to see my regulars. It's such a compliment when someone wants to see you more then once. That's a big turn on. Meeting someone new certainly is exciting but in a different way. I'm always hoping I live up to and beyond their expectations.

All the term GFE means "Girl Friend Experience" as opposed to "standard service" (standard meaning they do not play into the sensual or intimate part they just get the job done for you and out the door you go) instead GFE implies that the lady plays into the fantasy of intimacy and sensuality.... I would assume "ultimate" would imply that they are really good at this. GFE does not imply that ANY services are included. If you assume certain services are included you will find yourself disappointed. (Your hygiene and attitude would also make a big difference in how "ultimate" your experience would be too I suspect) I am sure others will charm in here, I just wanted to mention that GFE & PSE are "STYLES OF SERVICE" and NEVER implies that certain SERVICES are to be expected.

My understanding is that when you ask either an MP or SP what is offered on the menu, it should be understood by all that you can choose to partake in any of the agreed upon services within the time that you are paying for, so if you just want to have a BJ and shoot your load , then see you have enough time to try it again, well you are more then welcomed to that service again. You pay for the time and services that are included during that time, which services you choose don't affect the cost, I believe it has always been this way.