Andee

I've heard Carrie Moon sing she usually blows everyone away at Karaoke.

Having "your eye on us" is kinda cool though.....

I think all the obvious expectations have been stated. I think the most important being that I expect my gentleman callers to have proper hygiene. I always have soap (pump style) and fresh hand towels available. A shower is also available if need be, but please respect that that is part of the time we are together. I have gotten to the point where I almost never allow Digits unless I already know the client and he has washed his hands and has trimmed nails. I am not going to take the chance of being jabbed with dirty and or long nails. I always say, push the pads of your fingertips, not the nail! Even guys who do not intend to hurt you that way can if they're not careful. I only use my own condoms and I put it on to ensure it is on correctly. If I perform oral with a condom, I will change the condom if we go to intercourse. I have only had a condom break once and it was after a guy fiddled with it by pulling the end tight and not leaving a little slack. That was years ago and has never happened since. If I don't want to kiss you, perform oral without condom or suck your balls, think about why that is???? If I have to spell it out for you, I will. If your a smoker, I will not allow CIM..I do not like the taste of nicotine. If you have an issue I should be aware of (ed, premature ejaculation, prostate problems (blood in semen), etc.), please let me know. I will not judge or laugh at you. By telling me, you may be sparing us both embarassment or frustration during the session. I am fairly assertive and for the most part do not get men who are "rough" with me. I don't know if it's because I'm older, but I rarely experience someone trying to cross that line with me. Sometimes guys get a little excited, so I have to watch they don't pull out too fast and have the condom go flying etc. Since I state my boundaries up front (no head pushing, no real deep throating, no coming in my mouth without telling me you're going to bust), I rarely have to give warning. Please, don't go near my bum. Exit only. Don't try to negotiate that with me. I am old enough to know I do not like it and, yes, I have tried it and no, I do not like it. Don't think you're going to be guy who is going to show me how to enjoy it because those other guys didn't know what they were doing. You know nothing about me, so don't even go there. Luckily, this does not happen very often. Finally, don't aske me if I'm "open minded". What the hell does that mean? In my experience, most of the time it means, do you do anal, but hey, not always. I have been surprised at what "open minded" means to people. That's like saying, do you like food? Be specific. What exactly is it you are trying to ask me. I am a big girl. I can handle being asked a question, it's just the way you might ask me: "do you do anal" is a lot different than "can I fuck your ass". Finally, please respect the time limit. I am not a clock watcher and I do not rush my clients, but if you have paid for a half hour session, please do not try to push the envelope by continuing to "try" after the half hour is up. I may go over a few minutes, but if you would like to stay longer, then you need to up the donation. Thanks for this thread Grasshopper..good one.

What's the expression, "there's a sucker born every minute". Not everyone is aware of the Cowboy's Diary. He does advertise on CL, but I haven't seen a posting from him lately. There will always be ads as long as they are guys who answer them. I am so glad I am older - I don't have to deal with "competition" in the 20-something age range. :mrgreen:

Yes, I always admired Quebeckers for their more liberal views. That's probably why Montreal boasts some of the most beautiful dancers and SPs in the country. Oh, and saving the Montreal Pool Room means you can still go their for their "steamies" (steamed hot dogs for those of you who haven't tried one). That itself was worth saving! But all kidding aside, it just goes to show that perseverance and dedication do pay off. I think a trip to Montreal is in order.

Some strippers I talked to when I go to the clubs say it's been $20 a song for years so maybe that's their way of making more money without actually increasing the price? I hear complaints there are too many girls, and since they have to pay for the right to work, so it's all about the hustle and that some actually don't make much $ at all for all the time they spend hanging around. Not being totally up on the scene, not sure if that's totally accurate, but I would think that if the DJ's might figure if they get away with playing shorter songs, then the girls will make more and everybody's happy....is this just Pigalle's? I was at the NuDen recently and the songs were definitely longer than 2 minutes. Because I am in my 40s any of my friends who worked as strippers (or exotic dancers as used to call themselves) did so many moons ago. They have told me the business operated much different 20 to 25 years ago when they were doing it. I believe they were actually paid by the club to dance, champagne rooms/lap dances came later. A friend of mine who is close to 60 years old actually used to do Burlesque and did not even take all her clothes off. This was back in the late 1960s. And when you say mileage varies, not to sound naive, but does that mean, you can actually get more than a bump and grind if you go on the Quebec side? I bet those $20 have to fly out of your hand like kleenex... :-P

I think what you're doing is admirable, Valleyman. Since you want to help this person and you are at the mercy of the Blood Services' rules, then you must do what you must do. If that means no SPs for awhile, so be it. As Arnie once said, "I'll be back"...and I believe that's what you meant...once you fulfill this obligation. I was "white carded" years ago (by the then Red Cross) before I became an SP because I admitted to having acupuncture even though I tried to assure them the needles were disposal and I saw them being removed from an unopened package. Nonetheless they said they couldn't take my word for it, so I have not been able to donate blood since around 1991. It's a shame really, but I guess they have to draw the line somewhere even though I agree that the question should be about having unprotected sex, period!

Makes me wonder if some of the bar sluts (male and female) where I go to Karaoke on Thursday nights have donated any blood lately. I have left condoms in the bathroom because I know from talking to some of my buddies that hang there, that most of their friends do not use protection when they sleep around. Creepy thought.

I have said it before and I will say it again, I have been treated better by my clients than some guys I have dated. I can count on one hand the number of "bad dates" I have had in 15 years of working as an SP (part-time and sometimes full-time). And like the saying goes, treat others the way you would like to be treated. If I do run into someone I do not care for, then I can simply refuse to see that person again, rather than endure being treated poorly just for the sake of money. Fortunately, I must say I am very lucky in that I get pretty good guys. I cannot remember the last time I had someone come and see me that disrespected me. I don't know if it's because of my age (being older), but I will work as an SP for as long as the clients will have me). :boobies:

Right on. And of course that goes for any type of abuse, not just rape. I never thought I was 'abused' by my alcoholic father because there was no physical or sexual abuse, just yelling, screaming and verbal put-downs. Because my mother always reminded us that things could be a lot worse. So I accepted my environment as "normal" and actually felt guilty because I had friends who did suffer other types of abuse and I didn't, so I should count my blessings (my mother used to say this to us!)

I do not mean to deviate from the original thread, but I have a lot of admiration and respect for Erin sharing her experience of rape with us. I had a similar experience when I was attending University back in 1984. It wasn't until I read the perpetrator's obituary in the Toronto Star last year, that it finally "clicked" for me that what happened to me was in fact "rape". This man was a respected city of Toronto alderman and did a lot of good work for the community, but looking back now he had a weakness for younger girls, was extremely manipulative and sexist and he raped me. I am not saying I am happy he died, but I am happy that I was able to remember and come to terms with it. I had buried that memory, that it wasn't until I read about him dying that it came back to me. Fortunately I am older and wiser and was able to "deal" with it now which I had not been able to back then. I believe it had a profound effect on how I viewed myself and my relationships with men. And I agree that rape is rape, no one worse or better than the other. It is unfortunate that Anita was banned, but I must admit, this thread was starting to feel "uncomfortable". I think we have all learned that despite intelligence and education, that there are still so many myths being perpetuated out there we have no control over. I am trying to stay positive, but it's almost scary to think we do not seem to be have made much progress in the dispelling some of these myths. A few days ago while attending the Navan Fair, I overhead a man saying to a young woman (I believe to be his daughter) that her and her girlfriend were wearing too much makeup and looked liked 'whores' and were asking to be raped looking like that. I had to do everything in my power not to say anything, so I moved on. Those girls didn't look to be more than 15 or 16. I am wondering what kind of effect those words will have on them and their self-esteem.

One of my best friend's husband only has one testicle and they have 2 kids...so go figure..

I offer MSOG, but with half hour clients, I can count on one hand the number of guys who have actually being able to come twice in half an hour. I had one client who came 3 times in about 20 minutes. I could not believe it. Most guys who take an hour usually come once, but some come twice and I do not charge extra. The only time I charge extra is when they go over their time and want "extra" time. My belief is that for most guys, the "idea" that they actually can come more than once if they want to, is exciting to them. When they get off, usually they're happy and leave it at that but appreciate knowing they could come again if they wanted to/or could. Of course you get the odd one who will struggle to get his money's worth, after having come once will struggle right down to the 29th minute hoping to get off again. Fortunately that doesn't happen very often. I always say, you can go around the world as many times as you want. Usually it's once in a half hour, sometimes twice in a hour, but often just once.:smile:

Good luck to you. I guess we won't be having dinner in Ottawa, after all. Oh well. Hope all your dreams come true. You will be missed.

Yes, my "brother-in-law" was given an apology and told they they shouldn't have jumped to conclusions and accepted his explanation rather than assuming he was lying and having to check it out with my sister. As for my name/number being verified, I agree, who knows what lists my name/number may be published on, out there. At first, it kind of threw me for a loop. Finally, apparently print-outs of my ad were stapled to the paper copy of his phone bill and afterwards when it was settled that the number in the ad belonged to me and what (if anything I was doing) with that number was indeed none of their business, copies of my ad were shredded and discarded. It would have been interesting, a copy of ad stapled to a phone bill and preserved in some civil servant's filing cabinet. We are all over it, and have had a good laugh now about it, but it wasn't so funny when it was happening.

A friend of mine said he visited her and she's from the States and does use a condom but may not be aware of the resources available here in Ottawa like Erin was referring to. :boobies:

My phone number could have been acquired from the websites I advertise on. That's why it was put into the database. When I was talking about my privacy, I meant Bell Mobility giving out my name...I wondered if they are allowed to reveal who's number that is? I thought cell phone numbers were unpublished. Perhaps they're not. I guess the Military are still in the dinosaur age and do not consider this to be "reasonable" use for personal calls. Since they are charged by the minute, it's not unreasonable to expect the holder of the phone limit personal calls. As I said, this all started because some journalist got wind that soldiers were using their cell phones to call (mostly) chat lines. I reminds me of a few years back hearing about some SPs who tried to set up business in Pembroke and getting run out of town basically by the wives and "morality" groups because once the soldiers found out, word got around like wildfire. I think the girls lasted 4 or 5 days or something like that. I guess some people like this journalist want to raise a fuss or create a scandal probably because there isn't enough interesting news to report on. Who knows? Not sure if the access to information request was limited to Ottawa area or not. :evil:

I was debating whether to post this, but because it happened to me, I feel justified in doing so. I would like to inform any hobbysts who may work for the Federal Government (at least in the Ottawa area) the embarrassment that my sister’s boyfriend went through recently when he was hauled up on the carpet by his superiors and questioned as to why he was calling “escort agencies”. You see he has a cell phone issued to him for work and “reasonable” personal use. I wouldn't have normally called him, but my sister didn't have her phone with her that day and we all arranging to meet. I made 3, very quick phone calls in a half hour period. All were “incoming” to his phone. Apparently my cell phone number was “flagged” as belonging to an “escort agency” as his boss put it, although he thought it was ridiculous that the higher ups would think he was trying to acquire the services of an escort with 3, 20 second incoming calls. Also, not sure how they verified my name to my cell phone number through Bell Mobility. I didn't think they could disclose that information, but apparently they did. Flagged, yes, flagged. Apparently a journalist exercising his right to freedom of information, questioned this particular government department on how much of tax-payers money was being spent per month on cell phone usage for members using their phones for sex-related services (escorts, sex chat lines). From what I was told, some do-gooder who worked there (who apparently has “No life”) took it upon himself to scour the different web-sites, print ads, yellow pages, and etc. for phone numbers, plugged them into a database and when cell phone bills were arriving, did an electronic check. If any numbers cross-referenced, bingo! Luckily, these family members knows what I do and are cool with it. He told them that it was my phone (his sister-in-law) and he had no idea what kind of business if any I was involved with related to that number. In other words, none-of-your-friggin business. My sister just happens to work in the dept. as him so not believing him at first, they held him in this room until they brought her up and were hoping they were going to catch some cheating guy in the act.. They showed her my number and she verified belonged to me. Then I find out later, that they also verified through Bell Mobility that the phone belonged to me, and not “some escort agency” as they put it and issued an apology to both of them and removed my number from this database. So, SPs of Ottawa, your number is probably in there too. If you have any clients who work for the government who have work-issued cell phones, encourage them “not” to call you from them.

Like Erin, I am also an SP who considers myself orally gifted. If you ask around, you might be surprised how many of us actually do perform BBBJ (always at my discretion of course, but unless you just got out of the bush after 30 days without bathing or have something funny looking down there, should be no problem).

Yahoo! Now that's a real cowboy talkin!

Eeeeewww! And what about girl dogs. Why should they be left out? Hee hee!

I am curious about Cowboy Kenny....does he really exist, or is he an extension of the mod's duties...hmmm.:twisted:

That was just a way of identifying you... So if you ever have to refer to me, then I can be "the other Angela", so we can take turns...

This should be interesting..can't wait to read the responses.:boobies:

One of the hobbysts from CERB took me to the NuDen last week and bought me a few dances (yes I like Girls) from this incredible statuesque, amazon-like French beauty named Melanie. She's not hard to miss...tall, long brown hair, big boobs (may have had some help but definitely nice) hourglass figure and tasty looking.... She was amazing....so much so, that I convinced him to come with me, so she got a third dance out of us, which is when she really turned it on. She almost bruised me doing her grind.... :lol: