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I am blessed in my life with the company of many brave, beautiful souls. People who share my values, people who care for one another, people who challenge me, and teach me what they know. I am blessed when I feel like hiding by the persistence of friends who coax me out of my shell. I am blessed with the opportunity to celebrate life with the wild and wonderful members of my communities. I am blessed to know so many people who value love, life, and the pursuit of wisdom over productivity, money, and the pursuit of a narrow ideal of success. I live in a world full of secret revolutionaries. (Uncountable numbers of people who, in living their lives, shift the balance in favour of love.) </hippiewords>

Well. I will attempt to not be seriously offended by your assumptions about CL. I don't see any need for it, especially by someone who doesn't use CL. There is nothing wrong with it or any other advertising site, just because from time to time, unsavoury characters post ads. Unsavoury characters have always posted ads, everywhere, and indeed will even pay for their advertising, so that is nothing new. When the CL ES category was closed, everyone started trash talking (and still does) back page ads and advertisers. It is really tiresome. Posting on a site doesn't make an sp a less worthy than the sps who do not. Posting on a popular site with a lot of potential clients makes them savvy business professionals, imo. The TS is a services section. Anyone who offers massage sessions, even erotic or tantric ones, should not be ashamed of using that section. We are offering a business service as well. If someone is posting in casual encounters, as an sp, trolling for clients, now that is inexcusable and unprofessional, imo. An sp who wants clients will utilize all of the sites that will attract them to her. For anyone outside of eastern Canada, cerb advertising, while free, is not really a viable option. I love cerb, and do post ads here, but I don't expect any clients from it. I do regularly get great clients from CL tho, of course. :)

Is there a Best Album Award on CERB? If not, I vote to start one. Nonstop724

Due to popular demand, I will be once again co-hosting a fall social for both male and female CERB members in good standing on Thursday, September 13th in Ottawa. Since this is being organized by CERB members for other CERB members, please do not bother the MOD about this event. It will be held a centrally located venue in Ottawa. It will be in a reserved room of a public bar/restaurant. It will run from approximately 6:30 p.m. until closing time. There will be a variety of music played and dancing will be encouraged. There will be a limit of 50 spots available (ideally 25 gents/25 ladies), on a first-come, first-served basis to those members in good standing who have some presence on the board or in the hobby (if you have a low post count, but good rep, that's all we care about). There will be a cost for gents to attend and tickets will be available starting in mid-August. You will be able to pay by e-mail money transfer, postal money order or cash (in person). The price of the tickets will be determined at that time as well. This is to cover drinks for the ladies, appetizers, door prizes and other expenses associated with organizing these events. There will be no cost to the ladies to attend, however we will be doing things a bit differently this time. Due to the popularity of past events and the fact there are some ladies we had to turn away because we were full, if you are such a lady, you will be given first priority this time. I kept a list from last time. And ladies, for those of you who said you wanted to attend and then did not even extend us the courtesy of letting us know beforehand (or even afterwards) that you couldn't attend, please do not embarass yourself by asking to come this time. We have more people wanting to attend, than spots available and you had your chance, sorry.:confused0024: This also applies to the gents who I said could pay at the door last minute and didn't show either. I do not wish to make this a sore point or create any controversy - it's just something that had to be said. Moving on to a more positive note - looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones. This is a meet and greet social event in a public venue (no hanky panky :)) and as with past events, expect all attendees to behave accordingly. Remember, CERB members from all across Canada (and elsewhere) are welcome to attend. If you think you might like to join us, feel free to pm and let me know. Angela of Ottawa Your humble social organizer.

I just thought this might brightened this up here in NB:) This is a thread to congratulate and thank you for the wonderful ladies who's efforts who have not gone unnoticed by our amazing hobbyiest! Please post if you have anything possitive to add for our touring ladies to NB!!

Home is in your heart, where you feel welcomed by friends,family,being able to put your feet up and looking around at the photo's and memories of loved ones,and little ones. Where you have family gatherings where hugs,laughter and pure enjoyment of re-living the past and future, home is always in my heart with those friends,family and neighbors that surround me with their love. God,I do miss my parents. :( and that is where my home started,and I make my home today open to those that welcome me into their home.

To me YMMV means that all services are at the ladies discretion, and therefore dependent on the sorts of things already mentioned: good hygiene, good manners, gentlemanly conduct all result in a good session, while the opposite will adversely affect the level of service. The wild card, of course is chemistry. With the best, most professional SPs, I find that if hygiene and manners are in place you can generally expect a fairly consistent and good / great level of service. Chemistry can push that to great / exceptional. In general, I haven't found looks to be a great factor in determining the service I receive.

This is a really interesting topic. Fundamentally, "YMMV" means "the provider reserves the right to use her discretion about the exact services she provides". Going into an appointment, assuming advertisement on one side and research on the other, both parties know the transaction is pretty much going to include services "X" unless something goes dramatically wrong. But if she feels inclined during the appointment, some ladies might also provide "Y"; but that's entirely her choice, and a client doesn't get to complain if Y isn't offered. When Y happens, it's not because the client paid for Y; it's solely because the lady chose to offer it at her own discretion. Y is never bought by a client; it's something that's earned. What moves an encounter from X to X+Y? Sometimes it's just about hygiene and mechanics -- right size, that kind of stuff. But also it's about the same simple but not always common stuff that makes it work in conventional relationships. In my experience: are you trustworthy? Are you giving and considerate? (1) Have you given your partner reason to believe she can let down her defenses a little and engage with you a little more? And ultimately... is the chemistry and mood there? Also, as a client: have you engaged your partner in more ways that was strictly "required" of you -- in other words, have you shown the same extra consideration for her that she'd be showing you if she bestowed Y? (1) Hee hee... I'm suddenly reminded of the Boy Scout Law from my youth. It's been a few decades but: A scout is... honest and trustworthy, kind and cheerful, considerate and clean, and wise in the use of his resources. Yes, that's right. The first rule of good intimacy is: follow the Boy Scout Law. If you thought being a Boy Scout was just about helping women across the street... well, you were wrong.

I find a bit difficult to discuss this matter in the context of a relationship (with all its limits) between a Sp and a regular hobbiest. In my view, it would be like organizing the level of 'gifts' I bring to my favorite SP beside the regular donation, or the tip, or anything special, unexpected, that show my "real, real" appreciation of the encounters I have or had with her. In a way, from the SP, it's up to her to see and to decide if she wants to express in some way her appreciation to a specific hobbiest or hobbiests because they are a significant part of her business. To make this an automatic form of appreciation like a collection of stamps, or kind of "airmiles" where you can have something because you are a frequent flyer would make the 'appreciation' something of a less value. For sure, any kind of appreciation is always welcome, but the unexpected ones, from my point of view, are always the most valuable, in particular in this kind of activities where the relationship part is key.

I know some agency incentives include a loyalty program for their repeat clientele, and as an Independent SP I was considering implementing something similar. I was wondering what sort of loyalty benefit I could offer my 'frequent flyers'. I'm not devaluing myself with free sessions that's not what this is about. Its about making those who are special feel that way. Any ideas? What would you be happy to receive from your ATF above and beyond the nice things she already does for you? appreciate your input

WELL, I missed the last one and perhaps its time to ..come out.. LOl Besides someone needs to represent the Prairies, so hopefully theres still space for the newbie Socialite to attend, I will contact Angela Asap. This should be fun and scary all at the same time! It will be fun to meet everyone!! Cheers

I would love to be able to attend but simply cannot make this one. The other good thing that I am going to miss is that after the last few socials I think that Old Dog surely must be buying everyone a drink to repay them for all of the ones that he received. Hope to see you at Christmas though. :)

Thank you, fellow Cerbies!! Especially CATO, you are amongst the first to wish be a happy birthday! SNS724

For me it is pretty basic... Poor dental hygiene (this includes bad breath such as whatever you ate the night before or that day and cigarettes) and/or cold sores = NO KISSING / NO DATY I once had an out call and the client had a big ol cold sore on his bottom lip-had to leave because he said the no kissing thing was a deal breaker-worked out well as his big mouth sore was a deal breaker for me too :) True story... Dirty fingernails-Long fingernails-Hands with multiple scrapes and or cuts = NO DIGITS and you wont have a chance to touch or play with my her ;) Shitty and/or Cocky attitude-So far have been really lucky, I am rather selective about who I see, this has helped weed out alot of individuals who would not passs my YMMV list. TALKING not texting can tell you so much IMHO

You know, I am all for free advertising....however, I myself, would not advertise my services in a category that escorting DOES NOT belong in :confused0024: Hey, maybe thats just me... Sorry did not review the CL listings, so my apologies in advance if I offend any ladies...BUT-why the hell would you advertise on a list that is associated with sleaze....Prior to the erotic category shut down, ok I get that-it was alright..but NOW...I don`t know, it just seems tacky IMO If you are looking for FREE advertising-THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE PLACE TO BE-it`s free to register and use!!!!! And if you are A MAN looking for some Fun with a massage..again this is A GOOD PLACE TO look-NOT CL

I too have noticed that very soon after the Erotic Ad. Sections were shut down. The ads. seem to shift over to the Therapeutic Section gradually. I must admit though, I haven't been on CL for a long long time - who needs CL when we have cerb.? :biggrin:

Your mileage may vary is such an intangible. Some of the things previously mentioned are of course a part of it, but I think of things such as showing respect, arriving in a neat and presentable manner, having good health habits relating to cleanliness and the like as automatic givens. These are things that just 'are'. My perspective on it is more in the area of personal connection and personal sharing. When a lady is comfortable enough with me to relax and engage in meaningful conversation on a wide range of topics then that is where the YMMV is applicable. I suppose that a sexual encounter of one sort or another is pretty well understood but when it can be so much more than just that the encounter reaches an entirely new and better level. To me, that is what ymmv is all about.

It feels almost like as if people are regularly driving west on the eastbound lane, now.

Are any of the guys who shave here married? If so, how do you explain this to your wives? Especially if you're not very sexually active with them at this point. My husband and I are still very active, but even if we weren't, we spend enough time walking around naked that I'd certainly notice if one day his balls turned up bald as cue balls! I can't see any wife overlooking a detail like this.

To me ymmv means first, things like hygiene. A lady is much more likely to be intimate with a gentleman who is clean versus one who is dirty Case in point. Kissing. It may be offered as a menu item. But should a guy have bad breath, or cigarette breath (if he smokes) the lady would imho be within her rights to refuse to kiss him. Or another example, she may offer digits. But if the guy's hands are covered in grease, like he just finished working on a car, I don't think he should expect digits. It can also mean that intangible, chemistry. A lady might offer a GFE experience. But there is very much a interpersonal chemistry/click to that service. If the lady and gentleman do not click, maybe the guy is too shy to relax and talk, it's kinda hard to offer a GFE. It doesn't mean sexual services denied. But the encounter would likely become just about sex, and in my experience, a GFE is about much more than just sex. It can also mean, in the case of a GFE, a large part of that is social/conversation. How intimate (in the broadest sense of the word) the conversation becomes depends on how much the lady/gentleman are willing to open up, which is more a case of trust. A lady shouldn't expect a man to completely open up or a man shouldn't expect a lady to completely open up on the first date. But if the client becomes a repeat, much more trust develops, and more intimate personal conversations occur, because it becomes more like two friends together, not a SP meeting a client Also, it can mean how a guy treats a lady. Showing up intoxicated/high. I think most guys can expect their encounter terminated. And likewise, if the guy is abusive, verbally or otherwise, the encounter is terminated Just because a gentleman is paying the lady for an encounter, doesn't mean he owns her for that time or is entitled to do whatever he wants. The acts performed are still between two consenting adults. And ymmv an industry standard, means irrespective of what is offered on a menu, it allows the lady to consent to an act on an individual basis. One client may be a gentleman, the next an unhygienic rude and ignorant man. Should both be treated equally. And finally, if the gentleman in scheduling an encounter has any specific enquiries, he should ask the lady at that time. There is no way a lady can envision every circumstance that may arise, the gentleman has to know more about himself than the lady. He should bring up anything that might be of issue prior to the encounter. In short, ymmv means irrespective of menu offerings, that those menu offerings may be offered in an encounter, not a guarantee that they will be offered. And irrespective that a gentleman is paying for an encounter, doesn't mean he is buying and entitled to do what he wants with the lady. It still has to be consensual between two adults, and forcing the lady to do something she doesn't want to do isn't consensual. And I don't see it as a negative. It just means the prospective client is aware ahead of time that there isn't a guarantee of services, but for the clients who are the best clients they can be, there are services they may experience At least that's how I see it RG

Expect to pay $40, though like Annessa points out, some girls may only charge $30. I'd be surprised if you were able to get a couples dance for only $20, though I suppose it could happen - I wouldn't recommend asking for it though. Just make sure to ask the dancer for the cost before starting the dance to avoid any nasty surprises.

Yes I would. Always wanted to feel what a blow job is like. I can imagine what vaginal/anal sex feel...sometime when i wear my strap-on, I feel like I have phantoms limbs...and it feel good....but yeah blow job. and also I would be jumping up and down all day long

Just came back from Maryland...(okay that's not the highlight) but I had an unbelievable time with my friend, we've only briefly meet two months ago, but it was our first time really being together, and we connected to so many levels it is almost scary...

Drug stores give seniors' discounts because seniors purchase more pharmaceuticals than any other age demographic. The same cannot be said of seniors and SP services. ;)

Such a nice thread, home is a place where I feel secure, love,acceptance, where I can relax with my companion/pets,in complete privacy,where no judgements, harm will come to me.Simply put my serenity.

This would have been my 39th anniversary today, but it's my second one alone. Why a highlight? Because it was an amazing 37 years. :)

I must say that with ladies I regularly see I sort of feel like I always get the benefits of a loyalty program. If I haven't seen them in a while, sometimes it is an extra passionate welcoming, or a little treat. Truth is, as many have observed before, often the more times you see a lady, the more intense, passionate, and explosive each session gets. I remember once, with a lady I had seen probably 20 times, when the session was over we looked at each other with amazement. Both of us commented that we didn't think that it could get hotter and more intense for us. But suddenly it had. WE had gone off in a different direction, without even talking about it, and found new things about what we liked. It was WOW! I don't think it could have possibly happened that way on a first date. Maybe not even on a 5th. For me, that's the benefit of loyalty. And it's built into finding a lady you genuinely have chemistry with, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the donation. Porthos

Mrrnice2 and backmanrub if they were all like you we would have nothing to talk about !! :biggrin:

So I too had the opportunity to meet up with PK's Emily and boy I'm glad I did! She piqued my interest when she first came on the scene a while back, that interest was renewed when I found a note from her in my inbox one day. We corresponded back and forth for a while, which was a great way to get to know one another and then finaly we met. This girl is cute as a button, very much GND ,when I arrived at her location I was greeted at the door by sweet smelling short blondie in a cute babydoll negleger. We chatted for a bit and then got down to the good stuff. As others have said she is a great kisser very soft lips and playful tongue. Kissing led to petting, petting led further exploration and satisfaction, including some playful spanking Her perky B cups were tasty responsive and a wonderful tasty treat. She's not a spinner, she's not a bbw, she's curvy and her photos accurately depict her body type. We contorted ourselves in various combinations on the large comfy king size bed! This woman is a master at the art of teasing she knows just how to please and tease, she understands that it's all in the timing! Eventually she found her way to my throbbing buckaroo, were she again demonstrated her amazing skills at teasing and pleasing, to say that she is fucking excellent at deep throating would be an understatement! Clearly she loves oral and is very very very very good at it. The eye contact, the gentle caresses, ball tickling and the no hands approach all combined to a mindblowing fantastic blow job! Along the way I had the chance to dine on her warm moist and oh so tasty kitty. She was eager to encourage further oral and digital exploration to which she was very responsive when I came up for air my face was covered in her girly goo She returned her attention to my cock, encasing it with her warm mouth and swirling tongue, taking it all in eagerly. Apparently she had her tonsils removed, well I couldn't feel them.... Eventually I could take it no longer this session of oral delight ended in her mouth(YMMV) with the finish of all finishes, clearly this gal loves what she does and I'm ok with that! Oral fans will love this girl and if you're not an oral fan you should give her a visit, you might just become one! All in all a great way to spend the night. She's smart, witty and charming, she's very sexual and comfortable with who she is and what she does. From the moment you enter the room her focus is on you and only you. She's a true pro and while she's only been at this a short period of time, she could teach a few of the new gals out there a thing or two about customer service and professionalism, she has a terrific attitude and great oral skills. It should be noted believe it or not I've never ever used PK until now, I've been with a few girls before they were with PK and some after moving on from PK, but Emily, well she took my PK virginity ;)

Speaking of Peter Jackson we can't forget this.....ummmm......classic! :D

Not really a movie...but this little known (on this side of the pond anyway) BBC mini series was absolutely brilliant. Set in modern day it's very much told as a sequel to Robert Louis Stevenson's novel....but with balls! Although one doesn't really need to know the original story to enjoy it. It's a self contained story told in 6 episodes. It's a perfect mixture of horror, action, suspense, and comedy (there's more than a little of that wonderfully dry British humor). Great performances by everyone in this. An absolute blast, very entertaining, and I really recommend it

Always had a soft spot for this one.

I would say quite a few documentaries get overlooked. This first one is all sorts of silly fun, and sometimes truth really can be stranger than fiction. These grown men take Donkey Kong WAY to seriously! King Of Kong, A Fistful Of Quarters The next ones are much more of a "niche market" sort of documentary, but the casual viewer might be surprised by how passionate and articulate the movie's subjects can be. Well, at least in the first two ;) Metal, A headbanger's Journey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfIhuhB5wBY Heavy Metal In Baghdad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC3icYwYstg Get Thrashed, The Story Of Thrash Metal

Vanessa darling, This is meant in the nicest of ways....OK! I don't think you need to show your face to be found out. Wow you have some other very unique and wonderful attributes.