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I'm wondering if you actually turn over the emails you have found? This would mean that private information from a provider (her location etc) will be in the hands of non industry female and could result in harrassment, eviction or worse. Depending on the intentions of the woman, this could have dire unintended consequences for an email only provider like myself or my sisters in our industry. I have been on the receiving end of angry wife phone calls and even visits by them to my incall. I would not wish it on anyone. Our industry carries unnecessary stigma and both provider and hobbyists alike bear the brunt of the negativity. If it were me, I would do everything in my power to protect the other potential victims by eliminating information that would give this woman the power to cause serious harm to them. If that was unavoidable, I would not forward any of this man's hobbying to her. I would eliminate this aspect from the report. I would simply look at it as an anonymous good deed, collect my money and move on. The woman who has hired you obviously is not concerned with ethics or she would have been sitting in front of you with his wife as she hired you or would not have contacted you at all. Her actions are invasively disrespectful to her sister and her sisters marriage. Declining the case would simply allow her to take it to another investigator that would give her the information and perhaps put a provider in harms way. We count on the hobbyist to be discreet and protect our information by not keeping it for prying eyes to find and this man obviously failed to do so. As a hobbyist, you have an opportunity to correct his mistake. Perhaps this is an old school mentality but I was taught that we protect our own, first and foremost. Society as a whole does not respect or protect us. It is up to us to ensure that those of us in our community are kept safe to the best of our ability and when the opportunity arises, we should not violate an unwritten code... cat

I also am more concerned on how you got this information. Intercepting someone's e-mail, (which is what you seem to have implied) is, if not illegal, certainly questionable. It could result in civil action, if not criminal. The fact it was a sister-in-law, who to me is more of a third-party than someone directly involved, makes it even more questionable. Return the money, declaring a conflict or personal connection, and walk away.

As cristycurves said it well, why did you take this task in the first place when you knew this may be the possible outcome and now you are asking what you should do. My ethics don't let me tell on a fellow (married) hobbyist if I find out about his hobbying but that is just mine. I have come across dancers I have seen long in the public places sometimes alone and sometimes they were with friend/family and I pretented like I don't know them (unless in a few cases that they came forward to say hi). There is certain ethical discretion attached to this hobby which as a community we all have to adhere. On another note, I am no lawyer but if someone is spying on me especially using electronic surveillance on me without my knowledge or approval, I will seek a lawyer's advice to see if I can sue him or her in the court of law (harassment maybe?). It is my understanding that in a democrary that we live in, only the LE and only when it warrants, can do this legally. As for question I think that Dabbler provided a good advice. Return the money. Cheating on wife though may be immoral (I am single and I dont make judgement) but it is not illegal and as long as the wife doesn't know about it no one is hurt (provided he makes all necessarry precautions like everything covered when seeing an SP). If I am married I will never see another woman which explains why I am not already. But that is my ethics.

Well not hat I'm an expert but I'll weigh in. At first gance, I have 2 issues with the situation. First, I'm having difficulty with the client being the sister-in-law. I personally don't see it being any of her business. It would be very different to me if your client was the wife but I feel that just because someone wants to know something doesn't mean they have a right to know. I say this not being familiar with the industry and not knowing what is common practice. It's just my opinion. The second issue, and probably more pertinent, is the "outing" you describe. I think although we try to separate our hobbying lives from the "real" world, we simply can't completely. I also feel that it is a similar situation to being at the grocery store where you run into a fellow hobbyist with his wife. In that situation you would either ignore him or come up with some story about how you knew each other. I think there exists a "code" that we must adhere to. It's a code which is mutually beneficial. You know something about him but he may also know something about you. Even if he doesn't Karma has a way of working these things out. I think the fact that struggling with what to do probably means you already know that you don't want this client. So I'd suggest, you go to the client and tell her you've discovered a personal link to the gentleman which disqualifies you from taking her as a client and give her her money back. My $0.02. Pennies are still accepted, right?

Whenever I have pussy farts, I always feel like I need to mention, 'that came from my pussy', so my partner doesn't think I let an actual fart go during sex. :icon_biggrin:

Perhaps. Something else that's happened over the last few years is the continuing growth of the Internet, and with it online communities such as this one. There is now a wealth of information about the SPs that are available, and how to go about seeing them, that simply didn't exist a few years ago. The existence of a community also provides simple reassurance to the new hobbyist or SP that they are not alone, and that many other well-adjusted individuals are doing the same as them. For many people, it's hugely comforting to know that you're not some kind of freak. I'd argue that the invention of the Internet is of more significance than the invention of ED meds, to be honest.

I've reread most of this thread and I finally was able to put my finger on why it didn't quite make sense to me. The problem for me is that I don't accept the premise behind the OP's original issue of wondering if he should feel bad about not feeling bad. That premise translates to me that the status of feeling bad about partaking of this lifestyle should possibly be the norm - that we clients should feel bad about being clients. Further on, I sense the position raised that being a client is something one should "settle for" as being a poor alternative. Speaking only for myself and how I view the world, I don't make it a practice to do discretionary things I would expect to feel bad about. I don't see "hobbying" as being a poor second to anything. But then, I compartmentalize. For the most part, each experience I've had in this lifestyle has been a positive affirmation of the joy of being human. (Thank you, ladies :)) I've always felt that the companion I was sharing time with was there by choice. Were I to feel otherwise, I'd pay my money, we'd sit down and talk sports or cats or politics for a while and I'd leave. I feel it is presumptuous to think the SPs on Cerb continually advertise to do something they'd rather not be doing. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, that's my two bit's worth of contribution to the thread. It would be my two cents' worth but the penny officially phases out on the 4th.

The biggest things are crossing someone's boundaries and I don't mean in a sexual kind of way. I think you have to let things fall naturally into place or you're going to seem like an eagar beaver which can be annoying or someone with an agenda which gets the spidey senses going with the ladies. To be honest and just a little constructive criticism here ( not a personal attack) is that you've mentioned things in passing about the ladies in your posts like when such and such a lady told you something. She said that in private and I'm a firm believer that it should never be relayed to anyone else let alone on an internet forum. If you want to piss off an SP and never see her again, this is one of the biggest things you can do. Once you write a recco of that lady and the nice things that transpired, whatever private convos or services that happened that day, should never be spoken of again. The only exception is when someone is asking for a good SP to spend time with. If you speak too fondly about a lady over and over, many may think you are a 'shiller' for her and then others members may begin to question this. Whatever conversations I have with clients in private have never been posted in a thread which I very much appreciate. If a woman is comfortable with you and trusts you, she will open up to you. If she finds all her dets splashed across threads on Cerb, I know if it were me, I'd never be seeing that person again! Personal boundaries and another person's privacy are of the utmost importance in this business and without that you don't have any credibility or trust. No one is out to get anyone here and while we realize you have come into a hobby that you enjoy and are excited to share things but please don't share with us that a lady feel comfortable to tell you her real name. This is not necessary and can be harmful to her and her business. Being too inquisitive will make an SP feel uncomfortable and want to head for the hills. Don't ask too many questions and should you two begin to develop a "business relationship" and the operative word here is "business", then over time she will share things but please whatever you do, don't ask things like it's the Spanish Inquisition. It's the number one pet peeve of providers and while you seem like an open person, please understand that the person you are spending time with may not be. A little goes a long way in this business.

Getting a call at 7 am to find out a close friend was killed in an accident. going to miss you Kechara

I noticed that in all reccomendations that a hobbyist writes, there is no link to the lovely ladies profiles. You have to go search for her name. I for one would like to have a direct link to her profile, does anyone else feel this way?

According to your post... If his duty is to his client and not the other guy then he should be honest with his client and reveal his findings, no? That's what he's getting paid to do; if he says he didn't find anything and lies to his client then he is not doing his job, correct?

I think you should have sex with the sister in law. I think you should warn this guy that his sister on law is looking in on him I think that you should tell the sister in law that you found out that her sister was the one having an affair I think you should not necessarily admit publicly that you can and do hack into people 's accounts. I imagine your type of "detective work" does not require you to take an oath to maintain your professional standing. And so do what feels right. Although it seems a little funny. That you were ok to track the guy to see if he was having an affair but are balking on disclosure because of who he is having it with ?

I read these few sentences a while ago, but they've really stuck with me and now I find myself back at my keyboard specifically to address them. Holy crap it pisses me off that a guy would actually say that in your company. I'm so sorry Nicolette. The whole casual, backhanded nature of the insult and all the assumptions and judgement with a thin layer of "caring" to wrap it all up in: "Hey I'm here because you're fun to fuck, but now it's time for me to judge you. Boy your life sure must suck! Here, have some of my thinly-disguised pity and disdain." --puts on concerned face--. Should this happen again, please smack the guy hard directly in the balls, and then tell him it's from me. On an intellectual level I think you have it figured out Nicolette: it's their own shame and guilt speaking. Effectively, "boy we're both such low and pathetic creatures for having done this. Discuss." But on an emotional level I'm angry on your behalf, and I'm irritated at the kind of situations that clueless clients who are completely un-self-aware can put you in. For my part, I've found such great and healthy experiences with SPs that I tend to forget it can go other ways, even for the well-grounded women of CERB. I dunno. Rant over I guess. Not a lot of things make me really angry, but apparently this is one of them. All the best.

Too late! :) I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. cat

And not just her. If personal stuff gets out in public, other SPs will notice, and although they might not say anything at the time, they'll definitely bear it in mind should you contact them in future.

Has it occurred to you that some people who have many partners may do so because they enjoy the sex?

I'm wondering if there is often a link when men who pay for it and have those feelings like they are ashamed/not good enough often think the same as the SP and that she doesn't like her job?? I had one person I see which isn't too often say to me not too long ago "Don't you wish you could quit this job?" What? Are you implying that this is all I can do and I have no other options? To me, this is an insult. It's simply not true and have left this business a number of times to do other things. I always find my way back here not because I couldn't handle other things but because I want to be here. Most people here know that I speak my mind and trust me, I'm not going to do something that I don't want to do! If I hated this job, I would have been gone long ago. It takes a special kind of woman to do this job and I am one of those women. I am a very stubborn and strong willed person! lol. I've been around for a while and am good at what I do. If you don't find me here one day, you will know I've become bored and decided to go another route which I have done in the past. The hours are great, the pay, each day is always different and I call the shots. So I often wonder when some men come to see SPs with negative feelings, do they automatically assume that we don't like what we're doing either? I realize not every hobbyist feels this way but due to the secrecy and taboos of the business, many may feel that this is a negative thing. I've met some great men and I've never made them feel bad because they were paying for it and they never made me feel like I was just doing this because I had no other choice. There are choices in life and this is one I made on my own accord which I don't feel bad about. We as service providers are here to satisy needs and urges and you pay us to leave without any b.s. I would say we are easier to deal with than one night stands or having a high maitenance girlfriend who rarely puts out. And our services are much less expensive in the long run without the headaches or complications as opposed to going the traditional route of getting laid. You only live once so enjoy it while you can! :)

Forget about outing a fellow hobbiest, you've just outtted yourself here and it's not likely that anyone will want to share private details regarding anything of any intimate matter with sps, mas or even girlfriends here knowing that someday it may be used against them. If you've had any professional training as an investigator you might want to review your textbooks and notes about ethics of the trade, ethics regarding responsibility to the client and ethics of best practices when investigating and accessing information. That's where you'll find your answer.

You accepted a job and it would be unethical to not report your findings.

It's okay guys wether someone blows into our vj j's or not we all know now. I appreciate the post and the replies. As to why I originated this thread -well after a rather rambunctious session-mostly doggy style-sex- I ended up pussy farting alot, I was embarrassed as this is not a regular occurrence for me-the pfarting that is. Anyway the pussy farting seemed to displease my client, I tried explaining to him that when you take your penis in and out alot, especially in some positions it forces air into the vjj,hence the pfarts and that they weren't like regular ones he didn't seem to get it nor did it appease him-oh well. I guess he'll move on to a more sillent provider, lol.

Before taking this case why wouldn't you have known this was a possible scenario? After all if a man is stepping out it could be with anyone from anywhere. I'm just surprised you wouldn't have thought of that, anyway, not lecturing just wondering. But now that it has occured I would turn in the information you have omitting the hobbyist activity. If that is possible. As you said you still get paid and she will have most of what she is looking for. If the hobbyist activity is all the proof you have I would drop the case and tell her there was nothing to be found. I always find it funny when women especially want these types of investigations as we are very intuitive creatures. When we suspect something it is for a reason. Imo just having the suspicion is the answer that there is infidelity.But I suppose some need visual proof. Tough situation but in the end it is only you that can decide what to do as it is you that has to live with your decision. Hopefully the sister in law won't decide to join cerb at any point, lol. Just trying to lighten the mood:icon_biggrin:-good luck.

It sounds like we need to send a huge hug to all who knew kechara.

I received a wall post today, from a new member who joined today, simply asking for my address. That's a bit forward, isn't it? Though that is a necessary question at some point before we can meet for an incall, just thought it would be good to bring up that some questions may be necessary to pose, but timing can totally make things akward. Some questions may be better left unsaid, true. But we also need to be sure that some questions just need to be kept for a certain time...as in later.

I've heard about Michaella for a while now. I missed a good chance to see her when she had a duo with my favorite SP last year sometime despite my lovely SP friend's many reminders. Since then, I have been longing to see her. Last week, I finally had an opportunity to see her solo - I am very glad I took that opportunity. Michaella has a pretty face - she's a very friendly and a down-to-earth type of young lady with no pretence. She has delicious curves, soft smooth skin and passionately-kissable lips. As her latest ad says - "I'll tease, please and pamper you", alas, she did just that and more! She enjoys kissing, and that just suited me fine since I thoroughly enjoy kissing as well. Her mighty sensual energy and desire to please was incredible as she made every effort to please me. One pleasant surprise I encountered was - she possesses a hidden and rare talent. I discovered this rare talent of her when I found the sheet was soaking wet near the end of the session. And this was not from the massage oil! I had so much fun with her that I will not hesitate to go back to see her again.

I know of a very fun & exciting social group for oral lovers, with a thread for the "naughty ladies of cerb" photos... might wanna look deeper into that... perhaps other groups for particular acts will start doing the same! there can't just be bj pics everywhere ....as even they don't quite qualify as "raunchy" (i think?!) which, let's face it, is a word with a VERY broad spectrum in this neighborhood Additional Comments: Then again, aren't there mounds upon mounds of XXX photos on the web? and videos too? And live chat sites...One has to wonder why those wouldn't suffice?

I don't think that these generalizations apply to most of us, Harrywatch. Speaking for myself, as one who has had more than "many" partners, I have no difficulty whatever enjoying the sex. I often enjoy it a great deal. Perhaps this is because I take time to get to know the men who visit me and to create an atmosphere where we can be comfortable together and our mutual pleasure increased. In fact, I think that time and experience has enhanced my ability to enjoy everything that goes on between us.

Interesting. You assume a lot about me. My wife is incredibly attractive to me. I'd love to have a physical relationship with her and not need to find sexual release in the arms of strangers. "Forced to pay for sex" is accurate in this case but not quite in the way you mean. More like, "I've decided that I need sex in my life, I have no other means to obtain it, therefore I must pay for it." You don't know me or my situation. My wife acknowledges the problems in our relationship but only wants action to resolve them on my part, not hers. She will not see a therapist or counselor with me. In spite of that, we're immensely compatible in other ways and she is my best friend. I wouldn't hurt her for the world. I don't want the emotional involvement and risk of an affair. The honest thing to do would be to divorce rather than cheating but that is hard to do. To hurt someone you care about that much is not an easy path to choose. In my case, her father is very sick, possibly dying at the moment. I could never kick her when she's already down. But I have needs too. I've suffered sexual neglect for over 6 years now. If you don't think I've tried everything I know how to do to improve this part of our relationship, you have no idea. Eventually you give up. Constant rejection is hard not to take personally and eventually it starts to chip away at your self esteem. Left to her own devices, our sex life would be her jumping me for a 5 minute quickie to get herself off every month or two. Sex is near the bottom of her list of priorities. This year it came to a head for me and I needed to do something about it or be crushed under the weight of my insecurities and loneliness. This is the path I choose. Everyone chooses this for their own reasons and it's not for us to pass judgement. I'm sorry you think that I'm a lazy person choosing the easy way out. I should probably just continue the years of effort at romance, flowers, date nights, romantic trips, etc. for no reward until I die. Right? Because it's the right thing thing to do.

I was lucky enough to meet Allyson for the first time this week. She was offering in service at a nice central location for several nights. She has a great body, good looks and an awesome personality. I was a little nervous before arriving but she quickly put me at ease. I won't go into the details but what followed left me absolutely speechless! I still have a big perma grin that won't go away. I definitely look forward to seeing her again....

I stumbled across this on youtube...lol. That's fucking craaaazzzzzy!!! Hahaha. My friend and I can't stop saying it now. LMAO!

There really isn't enough detail on how the information was collected but what you have discovered and who you have discovered on behalf of doesn't seem possible without what the Courts would consider to be an illegal wiretap. If you are completely within the law and therefore fireproof then you have a moral and ethical obligation to do (and complete) the job you were hired to do otherwise go directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200 :)

As brockvilleman said, business is business. I'm single and don't have to worry about those things happening, however, the woman is paying you to do a job correct? Your responsibility at this point is to report the findings to her. Since your job is to investigate other people and report those findings back to the interested party, then that's what you need to do. I know it's hard, but your job is your job!

Sorry that you wasted an entire minute reading that article. I randomly selected and quoted 3 references in an effort to answer Malika's query (although she misunderstood my post in the first place). One of these references is from Columbia University's Health Promotion Program. For your sake, please feel free to skip over my posts. P.S. Because of my respect for cristycurves, I will refrain from continuing this discussion.

Well I'm not sure what you base your opinion on with regards to the author of the post. I don't know either or your credentials. Either way I think everyone is saying that blowing into a woman's vagina is not a life threatening thing to do.

Interesting you would call it BS yet say it is technically possible. The Q&A he referenced was from the Cosmopolitan website. The part he omitted from his post was the fact that it was extremely unlikely ever to happen. For those who care to read the entire post. http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/blow-air-in-vagina

Please have some scientific evidence for this. Because if deliberately blowing air out of my uterus was dangerous I would be dead now. I have really strong abs and in a certain positions I can do it on command.

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And what does that say about the men who assume the ladies they see don't like what they are doing. They likely go through with the encounter anyway, even though in their mind the lady they are having sex with doesn't like what she is doing. What guy would want to have an intimate encounter with a woman who doesn't want to be there. Hope that is coming out right The ladies I've met are intelligent, fun, and are able to make me feel special. And it is a special lady who can be a professional companion. I've never got the sense the lady didn't want to be there, and I was never made to feel bad for seeking the company of a paid companion. The services, the companionship the ladies provide are appreciated by this gentleman. And you all have my utmost respect for providing the no strings companionship that you do...so a big THANK YOU Good post Nicolette RG

Exactly, I think pussy farts are awesome.

i simply carry on to much fun to stop because u got a pussy fart it dont happen every time so i think its a funny moment and we just laugh about it ... it means that u fuck the sh----t out of me its a kind of compliment in a way...

As was recently discussed between a wonderful Cerb-ette and I during our most recent encounter, if you never run into pussy farts, you're not doing it right!

RIGHT NOW!!! Because there are so many smart, beautiful, hot, sexy, gorgeous, wonderful ladies on CERB. bk

Last day of work after 18 months which were a hell of a ride, particularly the last 2 weeks. Brushed up and closed a few files till mid-late afternoon, did my milk run to get signatures to pack my office, only to have my colleagues waiting for me to give me a good-bye card. As i did my round of the floor before leaving, i realized i'll miss my coworkers. Between the ups and downs at work, it's the best group of people i ever worked with at this point.

I've been a few times over the last year and it's been fine. had some very hot dances in the back - one with a cute spinner and another with a darker skinned woman who guaranteed it would be great and proved it would.

It is indeed a fetish and there are those that seek it out. Years ago I had a client that was a master at making girls expel. It made me nuts because the entire session was just a long series of queefs and I would giggle throughout it which kills the mood for me. I finally offloaded him to an agency because having my uterus filled with air once a week was a little much and my instinct said it wasn't healthy. I'm not sure if that's a medical fact but when my little voice says something I listen; even if the medical community doesn't back her up. I don't worry about it happening as it is unavoidable in some positions and if a playmate gets offended if I do it, then he's in the wrong place with the wrong person! I look at queefs like I do burps, gas and hiccups. They happen to everyone at some point and can be a catalyst for a good giggle break. If you can't laugh at these things, then you are way too serious to play at my house... cat

Look at this. You may have seen it before, but not like this: That's not a photo; it's a pencil drawing. So are these: The artist has a blog, which is worth a look. What really impressed me was his series of snapshots of the work-in-progress that became... this.

I have a big pot of pea soup on the stove, with lots of ham hocks, onions and carrots. We'll be making up fresh rolls for dipping. Does anybody remember Shake-&-Bake? It was a '60s thing. My mom made it a few times. Last night, I made my own shake-&-bake chicken! Turned out pretty good!

Okey dokey .... I don't over analyse ....make your decision to see an SP .. enjoy and live with it as one of life's good decisions :) So.....MY "cost per fuck" never really thought about it and don't care My neighbor's 20 year old son just became a father Xmas day after dating a girl for just 6 months prior to her getting pregnant .......both only half way through college. and an affair between two married folks I know in their 30's resulted in a pregnancy and the husband of the pregnant wife was "fixed". It's nasty now. I wonder what their "cost per fuck" will end up to be ???

Going for a walk today and it is so sunny I had to buy sunglasses. :icon_smile::icon_smile::icon_smile:

A great big hug for you today, Angela!

1. Whats your "real" name? 2. How many men have you been with today? 3. So, have you been busy? 4. Is your real hair color/breast size/nails/tan real? 5. How did you get into the business? 6. Do you have a boyfriend/SO/partner? 7. Why don't you go Indie? 8. Can I stand you on your head while you give me a bj? 9. Why do you have to put the condom on now? 10. Can I have a tour of your place? 11. Who is that in the picture? 12. Are the sheets clean? 13. Did you shower? 14. Tell me the difference between the 1hr and 2hr option besides time, I might want to readjust our session. 15. Is that what you are wearing? 16. I thought you would be _________ (taller, shorter, skinnier, fatter, younger, older) 17. I brought rolled change for part of my donation, is that a problem? (paid $250 in rolled pennies and dimes) 18. Do you own this place? 19. You should take yoga. 20. Have you ever considered having your breasts done? 21. Do you have a bong? 22. Can you drive me home afterwards? 23. I have a friend in the car, is it ok if he waits in your livingroom? 24. How many children do you have? 25. Do you REALLY enjoy it or are you an awesome actress? 26. Can we "just hang out" cause I think we have a real connection. 27. What are the perks if I become a good regular? 28. Can I leave my shoes and socks on for the whole visit? 29. Whats the weirdest request you've ever had? 30. Has anyone ever hurt you during an appointment? 31. Does your family know what you do? And my all time favorite! 32. Your such a smart woman, why don't you get a real job? These are all questions I have been asked personally and they range from mildly annoying to WTF is he thinking! cat