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Hi this is to all the SP's every where. with all the posts and polls that have been going on, i have read somethings that i have found to leave me feeling sad. things like sp's feeling they will lose there clients unless they perform a service they might not want to do, to hearing just how bad and not understanding some clients are with regards to condoms. I will not get into the muck of the business as i know people are trying to make a living but i would like to say one thing and that is this. The Sp's that i have been with i have always tried to make sure they know that i truly appreciate the time they have given to be with me and to treat them with as much respect as i can. and i want everyone to remember that every sp is a living being and should be treated like such. again this is not a post putting anyone down it is just a reminder and a way to get this off my chest. so to keep this short i as a MAN want to say sorry to any Sp who has been treated in a ungentlemanly way by a man. And as myself i want to say thank-you to every SP i have been with and to the ones i have not yet been with. And even thou it has been said before i will say it again. I can tell that all the SP's out there are strong and smart and know what they are doing just by reading their posts. you do not need anyone to tell you what services you should be giving. I can only imagine how tough it is in the business to add services you are not comfortable with doing, and to any SP anywhere with whatever you decide to do I truly wish from the bottom of my heart, all the best for a happy, safe, and long life. and that you only get the great clients that you all deserve. Will that is it i do not know if all this need to be said in a post but i think that even thou i am only one person i hope others can come together with me in giving strength to any SP who might be dealing with some of the issues that have been talked about lately. Have a great day all :)

Some may view the OP as an ass kisser....while some of us see him as a gentleman :)

Allow me, if you will, to make my final statement in regard to this and the other thread started. Everyone has their own private and public thoughts on the matter. Their opinions and the information that they offer may run in direct contradiction to what you may or may not believe. It's great that we can have a frank debate about this matter, but please... if you are going to counter an argument, counter the facts on the table rather than the person presenting them. There is absolutely no reason to conduct a personal attack against anyone in this open forum. It detracts from the central issue, diminishes an argument and demeans both the poster and the intended recipient. It serves no value in this or any other thread. We thrive as a community because we can discuss things here that we can't discuss in the vanilla world. CERB empowers us to conduct these discussions and for that we should all be grateful. The one thing, the tenet that this board was founded upon, was respectful dialogue. I encourage everyone to look up to the black bar at the top of the screen. Every time you post, take a look at that bar. If what you say doesn't conform with the words in that bar, erase them... and keep erasing them until you have the ability to communicate politely. ... if you do not have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all. That's from the Gospel according to St. Mod 3:29

Agreed ....reminds me of this thread I started 4 yrs ago (wow! 4 years ago?? lol).... :D http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12396&highlight=things+make+love+jobs

I like to extend a special thank-you to some SP's that are located in Ottawa,Montreal and Toronto for verifying/Okaying myself as a client through a site called P411. I travelled down to the USA,for some golf,vacation and some fun with ladies :) and in order to get a appointment with VIP providers in the USA there are numerous ways to get yourself screened and verified to make an appointment. I made the one that was quick and easy to use, and is used vastly by providers in the USA and some ladies here in Canada use the site as well, Preferred 411, or P411. I registered, it was painless, and membership for the 1st 6 months is free, than there is a small donation to keep your profile active,which I will do because you never know when I want to travel again :) When I completed my profile, the norm is to get "okay" by providers we as hobbiest have met before, luckily for myself the ladies from Ottawa,Toronto and Montreal helped myself out by giving myself the "okay" As a member and being "okay" gave myself that interaction with some of the most lovely ladies down state side, and without any issues, I was able to reserve myself two dates while down there, and were outcalls to my hotel room. So, I like to thank those ladies, very much that assisted me, and I am all for the screening method that ladies use down in USA,or in fact what ever screening methods used in Canada too, period! after all it is of paramount importance for both parties. It is safe easy to use and without any shadow of doubt I felt comfortable and never on edge about going down to play and vacation in USA. Again, thanks ladies you know exactly who you are, I greatly appreciate the fact that all of you of helped myself out, it was like getting highly recommended ;). Pete!

Firstly, Annessa is spot on with her statement and you did not address her concern. The fact that this is anonymous has nothing to do with it. The structure of your questions alone can be seen to influence the outcome of the poll. The fact it is anonymous makes it worse, as people with an agenda can try and influence the outcome. For example, are you sure only SP's answered? What if someone like an MA who does not offer or receive any kind of oral answered? Did you account for that in the poll? How about the fact that some SPs don't like giving a CBJ because they don't want to suck on a condom, or for other reasons? Why not ask about that? Based on the number of responses you have a very small sample size given the number of SPs on this board. It would not even be a good representative sample because you are not sure you have an accurate cross section to extrapolate the results. At best the poll could be classed as entertainment if people were not trying to interpret flawed results and use them to fuel a debate. What is scarier is that some people may be using those results and some of the other flawed and biased statements made on these threads to make a serious decision. People, do your own damn research, it is your health and your life. Don't go to Wikipedia or Ask.com or even Cosmo, check out as many primary sources as possible. The answers often vary, particularly as new research is done. Then make your own decision and stick with it. The other major issue is that there are many other practices that have as much risk, such as DATY, DATO, COF, kissing etc. Why aren't they being addressed? If I really wanted to stir the pot, why don't we put up a poll to see how many SPs do CBJ, but allow DATY or digits?

I'm only going to add a short two cents to this thread, I'm not taking part in the poll because I think its encouraging another statistic of "oh look, x amount of girls are offerring x service" and "only x are offering this" so the lower amount of girls who arent offering x service should catch up to those that are. potatoe, potatah-toe....lets live and let live. if you want a specific service, ask for it like a gentleman, if the lady doesnt offer it (and if thats a real deal breaker for you...tisk) then dont see her but getting us all to make a new statistic based on a poll about what the new Cerb.ca supposed "norm" is? Depending on the outcome, its not helping anyone (psst!..mainly us!) and...well....bah I'm not even gonna finish that cuz i think you know where I'm going with this....

Her new name is Celeste which in French stands for heavenly and so is Jessy............. I have had the pleasure of spending some very pleasant time with Jessy who used to be represented by PKE on several occasions in the past and that comes from a variety guy like me. I have absolutely no idea as why I don't have a recommendation post for her here!!!!!!!. My only guess is that I was not on cerb at those times. She made a special effort to come and see me outcall and every time she provided a total GFE service. Most cerbites know I am very picky when it comes to looks and I really think that Jessy is beautiful. Looks: Very feminine body. Pretty friendly face. Big blue eyes and soft pale skin. Very well (man) made boobs and a tall feminine body. Looks younger than her age of 28. Services: Very GFE in emotional sense. A great kisser (A true DFK), enjoys Daty and is responsive to it. I hear that recently she has become a safe GFE (CBJ) not that it matters to me as I am not into any bare service. But apparently she offers fetish (not that it matters to me). Attitude: A total GFE. You will be with your deeply in love GF (or at least feels like it). Smiling, very friendly, great kisser, very classy top notch young lady. As mentioned by Pete above she is now an independent advertising on cerb as Jessyceleste.

Wow! My BBFS thread and Peachys BBBJ one have really made everybody super sensitive! I guess we can't move on to "humour" just yet! Let me know when the minefield has been cleared ... I'll be the one in the Dog House! in the meantime ... Happy Easter everybody!

Well said ODL. I've always tried to make each experience a pleasure for both involved. And I hope most of the MAs I've been to see had as much enjoyment as I did.

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Like others in this thread I'm at a point where I'm most interested in the contents, not the packaging. My eye can still be drawn by a pretty face, nice curves, and clothes that are tasteful with a touch of sexy. But I've too often seen these things fail to deliver on their superficial promise, so I don't put much faith in them by themselves any more. I can appreciate them still, but they don't really stir me. The thing that really gets my attention is someone who's engaged, energetic, looks people in the eye with a smile, and who has bent but not broken in the face of life's inevitable setbacks. I find I'm really drawn to a woman who has a bit of poise, humour, playfulness, and a slight elusiveness -- a sense that there's always something more about her that's still unrevealed and which it's tremendously rewarding to keep working at. And for the long term, someone I have confidence can contribute actively to building something unique together.

On the topic of what "kind" of men pay for sex, this might be of interest to some, posted right here on CERB: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=124755 "We believe that the generalizations that groups seeking the abolition of prostitution make about the attitudes, beliefs and behaviours of ALL people who pay for sexual services in Canada are based on moral convictions and speculation as opposed to actual evidence. In our ongoing effort to present a more complete and accurate picture of the diversity of attitudes, beliefs and experiences of people who have paid for sexual services in Canada we are inviting you to be a part of the largest and most ambitious study of Canada's sex industry undertaken to date. The Sex, Safety and Security Study, which is part of a larger research initiative funded the Canadian Institutes for Health Research (CIHR), seeks to provide a safe, secure and nonjudgmental environment for people who have purchased sexual services to have your voices heard and respected and the details of your experiences acknowledged."

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The older I get, the more I realize that I'm turning into a zombie. 'Cos the only thing I really care about is.... brains.

Yep.... i will admit..... I am an Addict... lol!!! I am alway on cerb! my phone, My laptop... work pc if there is internet I am here!! Hello Everyone, My name is Tiffany and I am a CERB Addict!

My first SP was on a business trip in Calgary. I was so nervous but horny as hell ... so plucked the courage to call ... 5mins before she was due to arrive my boss who wasn't suppose to arrive in the city till much later calls me and says he'll be here in 10, see you in the foyer. The SP arrives looking gorgeous, I was a stuttering, nervous ..idiot. said I had to cancel .. but paid her for the full hour... easiest hour she ever had ;)

Well again a little knowledge or research goes a long way. The problem with lubes and condoms is that although water based is fairly safe to use with a condom, oil and silcone causes latex to deteriorate, which kind of defeats the purpose of the condom. Water based lubes wash off quickly which is good. While using a silicone lube you are at a greater risk of an infection because it, and any bacteria it picks up, are not as easily washed away. A water based lube with glycerin is also bad for folks prone to yeast infection.

Why is it that when I go to the grocery store with only a few small things on my list, I always leave with $300 worth of groceries?

Meg, I love to linger in the afterglow, chat and smooch while softly running my fingertips over all the ladies curves. It's a beautiful moment if the connection between the SP and client is right.

For a man...burly is the best description. I want to be enveloped by a MAN...a masculine man. Kind face, chest hair, nice butt. I had a huge crush on Tom Berenger when he was in Platoon and on Cheers. I guess that's the natural instinct to be protected. Don't get me wrong, a mmmm is a mmmm and I love all men. For a woman... I will admire any woman on the street that catches my fancy but to be intimate requires a "connection". My admiration comes from how she comports herself. Confidence is a huge turn. Style and demeanor attract me.

Air effects instead of febreeze cause it was on sale. Now my house stinks like cheap car freshner. Gross!

Only one person's (very humble) opinion, but the opinion of a long-time condom user and fan. Most of any man's objection to covering is psychological, and the kernel of truth that the objection is based on can be well handled by a little lube on the head before the cover goes on and making sure the condom isn't cold. The bulk of the difficulty vanishes with a change of attitude. Condoms are fun, helpful little creatures that make possible what would otherwise be entirely too risky - they are Man's third best friend. Again, MHO, but I have a sense that North American culture has become quite blasé about STIs and their associated misery - inappropriately so.

I just want to wish everyone a very Happy Easter! Just getting ready to head off to the airport in bit for a few days back home in England with my son and family. Hope everyone has a great long weekend and I will talk to you all next week! Cheers, Spud

If there is still room, mark me down too Angela! Thanks for organizing it!! -Alg

For me it is a well dressed lady, with a huge smile on her face, one she is not afraid to share with strangers passing by, like me.

I only know from reading profiles and ladies' websites, seeing as I'm not married LOL, but often a companion wishes to meet the couple first before agreeing to see them behind bedroom doors. And as was mentioned, considering this is your wife's intimate experience more so than yours, she should be the person deciding on who to see. Finally, is your wife really comfortable with the idea. I only ask because you mentioned she wants to be tipsy. Just my opinion, but whether man or woman, wanting to be tipsy before an intimate encounter would be a sign that a person really isn't comfortable with the idea of being intimate with a person. Not to mention a professional companion may cancel the encounter if someone shows up under the influence Good luck to you and your wife RG

What I find attractive is a mature, sexy, confident, smart and Emma Alexandra, that is what I find attractive.

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That's not the cuddling babe, that's just being with you :D

I've described my very first time above, but there were other firsts. I thought I'd describe my first time in Europe. It was in the city of Vienna. I had only started my hobby a year and a half earlier and had only been with 3 professional gals at that point so I was still pretty much a novice. I was heading to a conference in Vienna and was thinking about what to do for entertainment. I did a google search on prostitution in Europe and much to my delight discovered that it was legal in Austria. I searched out a few sites in Austria, but having limited knowledge of German I had difficulty finding a site. The big problem is I couldn't tell from the ads if the locations were brothels or strip joints. Fortunately while I was in Vienna I found a web site that described the various types of establishments in Vienna, but most were some distance from my hotel. But then I came across a review of a Laufhaus on Juchgasse which was not too far from my hotel -- about 1.5 km away -- walking distance. So I drew myself a map and put on my shoe and my jacket and walked out to explore this place. I could find it. I missed the street and nearly got lost. A half hour later I got back to my hotel. Took another look at the map realized my mistake and back out I went. This time I found it... just a half block from a clearly marked police station. I thought back to that web site... I sure hope it was telling the truth about the legality. Anyway. I found the door. The building was about 8 stories high and on each floor was 3 appartments with a 4th appartment a half floor up. There was an elevator, but since I didn't know who I wanted to see, I walked up checking out each door. According to the site one walks in look at the girls photos on her door, if a green light is on, you knock; if the red light is on, you don't knock. Most of the ladies were occupied, so I kept walking up. I think it was the 5th floor I came to the door of a Tatjana. In her pictures she had very long black hair, long legs, she was wearing stockings with garters, a black see through top, and held a mask over her head. She was gorgeous. So I knocked. She was very tall. She looked about 10 years older than her photos, but still was very attractive. I asked her how much for 15 minutes. She said 50 euros. So she invited me in. We did the financial part of the transaction. She asked me if I wanted some water I had a drink of water, and fetched me a bottle of water. We got down to sexual business. She was very nice. It was a great experience... one of the best sexual experiences I had ever had up to that point. I don't think she kept track of time either, she didn't rush me or anything, but was rather nice company. The only disappointment was no kissing; oh, and not much conversation... as she spoke mostly Russian and I only speak English. The web site for the Laufhaus is http://www.juchgasse11.at/home/ but shes not listed anymore. I'd post a photo of her from the web site but I can't figure out how to do that.

Happy Easter to everyone celebrating it... and happy not-going-to-work-for-a-day-or-two to many of the rest of us! And happy getting-some-awesome-appointments to the ladies who aren't getting the weekend off :)

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So I toftt on this ... no comment.

If I'm going by just looks its a nice ass with thigh gap. I am also drawn to women with amazing eyes like Mila Kunis, Zoey Deschanel, Giada De Laurentiis or from Cerb the lovely Genevieve Marceau.

What an awesome idea!!! :D I love this!!! http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/canadians-pour-it-forward-at-tim-hortons-1.1215467 Pouring It Forward It's a dose of kindness with your next double-double. A growing trend of generosity is hitting Tim Hortons drive-thrus across the country. It's become so popular it's been given the term "pouring it forward." "I went to the check out and the woman told me my coffee was paid for from the vehicle ahead of me," says David Dorion. CTV News decided to visit the Tim Hortons location near Bank and Leitrim to see if this act of kindness really exists. "It seems to happen every day. We'll get people who will pay for the person behind them and then it usually continues. It'll continue for about two or three cars," says Tim Hortons employee Melissa Larocque. The record for the most coffees poured forward took place in Winnipeg, this past December, when the streak hit 228 orders. "That went on for three hours. It was absolutely amazing," says Tim Hortons representative Nadia MacDonald. Customers love the idea which is completely dependent on the generosity of patrons. "I think it's the definition of Canadian right there. And you know what? I'm going to pay it forward later on today," says customer Jordan Putinski, who just received a free coffee of his own.

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As Duke says it..., To start just look.., are they posting their adds in the Massage only Section or in the Full Service Provider/ escort section... Also very important..., if you find yourself interested in a lady, read her profile, if the lady has her own website, read thatbone too...., inform yourself..., If after reading you still have any doubts as to what services she offers..., contact her directly, and ask pertinent questions... As whiteman said COMUNICATION IS THE KEY! We are here to answer your questions but make sure you read so you dont ask questions which answers are already in her profile or website :-) or at least try to avoid them :-) MODS alrwady have a busy time, i think we can all just do a little research on our own.., its really not that hard! :-)

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I digress. I think everything is fair game. To say that some topics are irrelevant discussion just seems bizarre to me. I don't know what you picked up from this thread, but I did learn something new from it. Here's what I do with a thread with a topic I have no care in the world for - ignore it. I can't think of any industry out there that isn't influenced by what their competitors are doing. To say that what another SP does is none of another SP's business is in my opinion massively presumptuous. Nevertheless, I haven't read many SPs on this thread actively denigrating others for offering the service. Finally, statistics aside, lets look at one fact. 16 respondents replied with the feeling of being pressured. I can't for the life of me begin to understand that sort of pressure in this case, but I can do my part in alleviating that concern. Call the stats completely bogus, but you can't deny that for whatever reasons, even for those that you think are dumb or non-existent, they are some you do have the feeling of being pressured. At this point it just becomes your decision with what you decide to do with whatever you've read here. I've already said what I'd do from now on, and if you read my previous comment again, you'll see I don't try to impose this on anyone else. Why this thread is important to me- I saw something that raised an alarm in my head, and decided to do something different. I am glad for this sort of discussion.

The problem with what you wrote here can be summed up in Mark Twain's words that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Yes, over 50% of the SP's "who responded" said they felt pressure. However only 30 SPs have responded to date. Is that a representative sample, or are most of the respondents just those who do not want to offer BBBJ? The trouble with this thread and the other on the topic, is that people are trying to use "statistics", and statements that imply they are being coerced, to win their point. If an SP does not want to offer BBBJ, then that is their choice. The fact that another offers it should not concern them. Read that again! It is none of their business. I have seen people argue on these threads that it is their business because another SP offering that service puts them at risk if they see the same clients. Well that would only be true if every client only had sexual encounters with "sex-workers". I can't recall ever getting a CBJ from a "civillian". So that shoots down that argument. The only way you would ever be truly safe is if everyone in the world only did oral covered. Again, whether a sex-worker offers a CBJ or a BBBJ, or DATY (covered or uncovered), or DATO, or Greek, or DFK or Mild BDSM, it is their own business and should not be debated here, or anywhere else, by other sex-workers or clients. Some sex-workers on here are saying they feel coerced to give BBBJ, but I would argue that this whole debate could be seen as an attempt to coerce or use the "court of public opinion" to get those who do offer BBBJ to change their service. That could be for safety reasons, but I could also imply it is to reduce what some may think is the competitive edge given to those who offer it. However, reading these threads and seeing the results of the poll you could draw the conclusion that it really doesn't matter one way or the other. Again, the decision to do a BJ covered or uncovered is up to the provider in question. It has no bearing on any other provider. You make your decisions based on what you feel is correct and guide yourself accordingly. What anyone else does is really none of your business.

What I took issue with was the incredibly homophobic, sex-negative, and whorephobic approach you took in your post. To recap: I would love to see your stats on this "guess" of yours. Stoya is a well-spoken porn actor who speaks to this subject quite frequently: http://stoya.tumblr.com/post/32205235912/testing-vs-condoms-in-pornography Emphasis mine. Racism, homophobia, and assumptions of drug use. Awesome. Again, I would love to see your proof to these claims. What on earth is a "meat and potatoes" std? Again with the homophobia. You know that people who have sex with other people of the opposite sex engage in anal sex as well? It's not a "gay thing". Again with the assumptions. Did you know that STIs are on the rise in the senior population, and they have theorized that it is because these individuals who are now finding themselves widowed and are engaging in new sexual relationships were not raised in a culture that promoted condom use and safer sex? Another assumption. Sorry, what? Again: source please. Actually, the transmission rate is about the same for oral sex on a person with a vagina, whether they are on their menses or not (it is considered a low-risk activity regardless of menses). Source: cdnaids.ca Someone's sexual identity does not put them more or less at risk of contracting an STI, it is the sexual activities they engage in and if they use safer sex practices.

Same fetish here, but in addition I think it's a turn on to experience sex after she already has a creampie. Sloppy seconds.

Well Tess, I don't necessarly have a foot fetish as such, but I do get an very healthy amount of satisfaction from giving a woman a killer foot rub. Over the years I've come across some pretty (IMHO) odd fetishes. Some I personally tried (I'll try anything once) but the most bizzare I encountered was watching the show "Kink" one night and they were in Germany at what could only be described as a old war time warehouse and people (men) were being dressed up in rubber "pig" suits complete with masks and were down on all fours on the floor of a large (room sized) shower. Well women (dom's I assume by their attire and deminor) were giving these "pigs" enema's and the "pig men" were grunting and squeeling like pigs the whole time until enema was released in an explosive fashion. Now seriously by this time I was totally flaberghasted and quite frankly somewhat dumbfounded by what I had just witnessed and decided that many of the things that I once engaged in that I felt were pushing kinky now seemed very vanilla. So bondage and such just didn't have the same hint of taboo as before. LOL I digress. For me two things stand out as being a "mild" fetish for me when taken into context: 1. The sensation of being bound with sight and sound removed as senses. Then to have your "trusted" partner explore you slowly and deliberately being only able to sense them through sensations they provide I find extremley erotic and sensual. Its a real turn on to give someone that power and control of you. 2. The sight of when a penis just enters a vagina. (I mean to watch the flesh meet and become one while the tip slowly enters as the lips softly part to accept it in.) It almost drives me mad I could watch it all day over and over. Good thread to see what makes people tick. Chuck