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Being disabled and a client of sex workers over the years means, for me, a conscious effort to avoid using labels and stereotypes in order to keep the issue focused on people's humanity, and indeed the right to great sex for everyone regardless of their standing in society. In other words all people are human beings first and foremost and all are entitled to full expression and experience in carrying on their lives. For me a date with someone who has made sex and eroticism their profession, is in many ways far more meaningful than just the physical aspects. There is a large emotional very personal aspect. As you might have guessed I am a romantic, and wouldn't have it any other way :). I have spent time with true masters of their field. Indeed "artisans" in the highest sense in the work. But that too is just another form of label. One which is meant to infer high praise in this context. Initially, and with the urging of a few wise friends, I went on my first eight as a form of rebellion against the not-so-subtle forms of marginalization the health-care system implies. It very quickly evolved into "Wow, this is what I've been missing!" It quickly evolved into something which is very integral to my life. Earlier today I noticed the terms "hobby" and "hobbyist" which denote for me a much more casual [perhaps less important] perspective. Which got me thinking: Where does the sex worker/date experienced fit for you? From both the client and worker perspective. So let the discussion commence. From casual, hobby, art form, or is it a "a life's calling" as one person referred to it years ago, how far-reaching is the spectrum? PatrickGC

Personally I think its wrong...Either you are looking to benefit your business or your looking for a personal piece. You cant have both, but if you are a companion you don't need to be on a dating site with your SP Photos.

That's right... had she lived, Bettie Page would have been 90 years old today. Bettie was one incredible lady. She was born in 1923 and really came into her own in her late twenties... she was bored, single and underemployed when she was approached by a man with a camera... and that's when things just took off. In 1951 there was no Playboy, no Penthouse, no Hustler... there were men's magazines but they were pulp. Wink, Twitter, Eyefull and Beauty parade... they were kept under the counter out of the view of "respectable" people... and Bettie was in ALL of them. Bettie stood out. She was beautiful. The camera loved her. She had no inhibitions. She did all the shots, fetish, bikini, topless, nude, and --gasp-- she wasn't shy about showing her pubic hair. It took nearly 20 years for magazines to catch up to her... but by then, her star had waned... at least she thought it had. For years she had no idea of just how popular she was... she had found religion in the late 50's - and faded into obscurity by the early 60's. She was an enigma through the 60's and 70's... then things changed. Artists began to discover her beauty. Authors became more interested in her story. The sexual revolution had occurred and they deified this obscure star of days gone by... and she had no idea. Bettie battled demons and not just the biblical kind. She battled schizophrenia in the late 70's; she was institutionalized for nearly 10 years between 1979 and 1992. When she finally got out of the hospital, she was a legend. In her 70's, unbeknownst to her, she was again a star. Bettie died 5 years ago in December 2008. At 85, she was the oldest living Playboy Playmate (January 1955) and had finally received the stardom she so rightly deserved. Her estate currently benefits to the tune of over $6 million (US) annually. So now when you see a cute little old lady walking down the street... think about it. At one time, she may have been another Bettie Page!

Well to me, seeing professional companions is not a hobby. How can intimate interpersonal relations be categorized as a hobby? Stamp collecting is a hobby. This is a lifestyle. And for me this lifestyle of seeing professional companions has taken the place of conventional dating. The ladies who are professional companions are very special. Giving of themselves, as has been said in other threads, body, mind and soul. Even on first meeting, treated like a boyfriend. Yes it is a art form, one only a very special lady can do. It is also a lifestyle I am glad I discovered. It filled a void when I gave up dating. The truth about this lifestyle is far different from the stereotype. It isn't about anonymous sexual encounters. It is a mutually beneficial lifestyle with no strings, no complications, with respect for one another. And seeing professional companions is every bit as fulfilling, to me that is, as was dating A rambling RG

To me is an Art form.. The art of seduction, the art of pleasure, the art of feeling and making feel, the art of connection, Becoming an MA, was never in my plans but life has so many turns that here I am... Before I worked as an MA there was too many things I didn't know about the proffesion itself and just saw it through the eyes of the society... With all the stigma that made me see it as a bad thing... Now I see it from a very different prospective, I see that there is more than just the physical part(like you said Patrck) I have since I started working as an MA discovered many things about myself I would have never found otherwise...

Today is earth day, if you can do something today to help please do, pick up some litter in your neighbourhood, recycle if you don't, turn off some lights, walk to work, something....It's our planet, we are it's caretakers and especially those with children should have a reason to want to keep it well so those they leave behind will have a healthy planet and a happy place to live and pass on to their children.:biggrin:

If you were not her customer you may want to just skip this and move on to next thread. If this upsets or offends anyone I apologize. Out of respect I am asking you keep any comments of poor taste to yourself and simply ignore this post if it bothers you in any way. If the mods decide this isn't appropriate I understand and apologize. Ok, lots of guys have been asking about Jen and out of the blue she called me the other day. She is doing well and thanks everyone for asking. She asked me to pass on a message and to be honest I am not real comfortable doing this or even sure it's appropriate but as a good friend of hers, here goes ..... Some of you know that she suffered a tragedy a while back, shortly after she left work in Ottawa. She lost her youngest son and BF in a car accident due to a drunk driver. They were on the way to see Jen who was in the hospital, her older kids were hurt pretty badly but recovered nicely since. There is WAY more to this story than meets the eye and this is where I struggle to know how much or what to say. I had seen Jen a few times after the accident as a friend to support her and we talked a lot as she knew I had lost a son as well. But 5 months later I started a project for work that involves travel. Upon return her phone numbers no longer worked and I decided she wanted to be left alone so I did not pursue contacting her in any way. I'll just mention that her son predicted his own and his father's death (this was confirmed to me by Jen's daughter) and in a strange twist of fate contributed to the accident which took their life. All of these unusual events have caused Jen to find religion. She quit massage and is doing hair only in BC. This all sounds unusual I am sure but keep in mind I am relaying this for Jen. Before his death her son told Jen that he was going to go to heaven soon but warned Jen that she was going to hell with her customers. This is what has Jen concerned and why she has changed her life but feels VERY strongly that her former customers need to be warned of this. She feels she can't truly be at ease until this is said so here I am feeling very conflicted writing this. She misses her customers who were also friends and wants them to know. She also extends an invitation to call her if you like, I will pass on her phone number via PM if you can convince me you were a friend of hers who will not call to upset her. Keep in mind she lives on the west coast and this is long distance, so it will cost you to call her. And don't expect a quick call if you want her to elaborate :) Those of you who know me will know this is no hoax and I do not endorse or condone the sentiments or beliefs expressed by Jen. This is her request and as a good friend of hers I am putting myself out on a limb to help her, much as I have done through the years.

I loved her look, unique, sexy and strong, a triple threat. I wish we were more like other cultures where the aged are revered and more respected. Beauty, sex appeal are certainly admirable so is doing your own thing, how many seniors rocked in their day? We'll only know if we take an interest in them, respect them and get to know them. I love having conversations and spending time with older folks, some have the most interesting stories to tell and it sometimes shocks me how brutally honest, forthright and naughty they can be.:icon_biggrin:

Foreplay in a king size bed with Claire and Vitto and five girls wielding pillows... Laser tag with real lasers or Lucky Charms?

I am not sure if this is weird or not, (not that I really care - lol) but I really like the smell of my own pussy. :) It reminds me of special times, past and present, and gives me a good feeling. Often when I am laying around by myself, I like to dip in a finger or two every so often and take a little whiff. Especially if I have been alone for the day and haven't showered since the morning and it smells very pussy-like... mmm.. This really turns me on. Recently I had someone request that I wear cotton panties for an encounter because cotton traps the yummy pussy scent better than polyester or other materials. This had never crossed my mind before, but the idea really got me going while I anticipated the session. Once we were together, I kept my panties on for a while when we played and I rubbed my cotton covered pussy all over his face. The friction and thought of him inhaling my scent into his nostrils was enough to drive me over the edge! Yum. I also really like the smell of my pussy on someone else's face. After enjoying a man pleasuring me orally, and then going up for a kiss and his face is covered in my scent... Fuck, that's hot! ;) I always appreciate a man who truly loves the smell of pussy in general too. It's almost always a sign that he is passionate and appreciates all of the special little things about women. A man who relishes the smell of a delicious fresh pussy is always a good lover too. :)

Awesome topic. Also, related question: which "date" you thought went really well was actually a disaster without you realizing it? Like: - you left the SP's place and immediately called your buddies and said "oh yeah, oh yeah, I just banged that girl and I was all, like, bang bang bang and then I went for the kill!" - but in fact, after she closed the door behind you, the SP was thinking "Christ I'm glad that's over. And who the hell WAS that guy?" Then she took a quick shower, returned a call from her sister from that afternoon, worked on a term paper due next week, made a grocery list, then put on a bathrobe and warm fuzzy socks, and curled up to watch the Daily Show while snacking on a pint of Haagen Dasz. They're people, dude.

The two publications at this link are part of a 3-year research project by Chris Bruckert at U of Ottawa and Tuulia Law, and a community advisory committee composed of Maggie's, POWER, Stella and Stepping Stone. "Rethinking Management in the Adult and Sex Industry" "Beyond Pimps, Procurers and Parasites: Mapping Third Parties in Incall/Outcall Sex Industry" Both of these are comprehensive, valuable publications, providing excellent summaries of the current laws related to prostitution in Canada as well as great analysis of the management models prostitutes use, including agencies, pimps, secretaries, booking agents, drivers and web designers.

3 movies I liked in the last few months that are out or coming out soon on Blu-ray/DVD Django Unchained Lincoln Silver Linings Playbook

I saw the movie 42 which is a baseball story about the life of Jackie Robinson and it was pretty good!

I love Betty Page, pin up girl fashion ( makes me want to do photos like that) and that whole 50's era. She was the quintessential pin up girl. Her bio was a very interesting read. May she rest in peace!

To me, it is everything. It has been a calling for many years although I never listened to it with my heart until recently. I love to give pleasure and to add something to those who see me. For those who truly enjoy what they do, it is an art form. There are so many ways to approach pleasure, seduction, sex and the tease and each one of us adds our own personality to the mix which makes it truly unique and personal. Not only that but to personalize it for the wonderful person we are spending our time with. This is far from a hobby even though the term hobbyist is used. There are friendships and relationships created within the confines of the lifestyle and those are just as vibrant and necessary as any other relationship. Sure, there are those who want a little thrill or enjoyment every now and then but I'm sure they appreciate what they are given. It's wonderful that so many on both sides of the lifestyle have embraced it and made it into the wonderful thing it is today even if old stigmas are still attached. Thankfully we have many wonderful activists, big and small, doing their part to adjust the perception directed at the lifestyle.

When my clients walk away happy. :)

I received ANOTHER PM from a member who was concerned because GOOGLE indexes cerb.ca. He says that his significant other has ways to "find" his ALIAS on cerb and thinks we should block the search engines from indexing cerb. Well... if your S/O can figure out your alias on cerb you allowed this to happen - it has NOTHING to do with google or cerb! Basically if this happens you were sloppy! He was obviously doing something he should not have been doing and got caught (Probably a tech savvy S/O) ... and now looking to put the blame on someone or something instead of himself. This happens with the LADIES just as much as the guys. The ladies do something foolish and allow people in their personal life to EASILY find them online working as an escort (and that causes PANIC for many and a headache for me as they want me to delete all traces of them on cerb) - after the fact this is pointless!! Everything that should be indexed by google (and other search engines) is. We block access to the PRIVATE sections (SP ONLY, COUNCIL, ETC...) and we hide your IP address's and Emails on your profiles. The PUBLIC part of the site is indexed and cerb runs a very good SEO system that ensures everything is available and indexed on google and other search engines. Why? This brings us traffic, allows new members to find cerb, allows the ladies to find us and it is a very important part of the site. It also pays the bills! This site is FREE for you all to use but nothing in this world is FREE. Your posts are indexed with the search engines and are considered "Content" and this content on google and other search engines creates links to cerb.ca. In turn our sponsors (All the advertisers here and escorts-canada and other sites we own get traffic from cerb and traffic is money). This is a business after all and it may be a free site for you all to use but the reason this site exists is to generate traffic and feed traffic to the people who pay for this site (The people who make this site free for everyone who uses it). These days if your sites are not listed on google... your nobody and nobody will find you! As of today we have 91700 listings on google alone! This brings THOUSANDS of people to cerb every day! Thousands of people who would not have found cerb without these listings. We can not hide things from google to keep them from your significant others. If you are sneaking around doing something you should not then your on your own to protect yourself. What can you do to keep your identity and actives private? 1) I would suggest you use a username that no one could associate with you. 2) Erase your cookies. history and temporary internet files everytime you are done using the internet 3) Check your computer for stuff like keystroke loggers (as it's common for SO's to use these things if they suspect you of doing things you should not). They act as trojans and quietly sit in the background and log every button you push on your keyboard.... any tech savvy 12 year old kid knows how to do this and you can now buy USB thumb drives that make it possible for ANYONE to do this with very little knowledge of how a computer works. 4) Don't post anything too personal. Ladies this goes for you as well. If you use your PERSONAL cell phone for business it will be INDEXED On google and your friends can GOOGLE your cell number and find your ads. Don't be foolish, invest in a WORK PHONE and keep your private life private! 5) If your name is "Richard Henry John" and you choose a alias here like "R.H.J" or "DickH" or "Rich john" your asking to be identified. This is just silly to do and you would be surprised how many people do this. **** The reason we use Alias's is so that your posts and activities on these sites are anonymous. We hide your IP and Email from public (Keeping your id private). Q: Is cerb really FREE? A: No, Nothing is Free. Q: How can you run CERB for free? A: This site is a BUSINESS and is here to make money. It costs TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars to run this site each year. Someone has to pay for that! You don't pay for using cerb and the handful of banner advertisers help but don't cover the cost of the servers per year let alone my salary! It appears free to you but your posts are content and your visits are traffic. Content = Search engine listings Search engine listings = Traffic Traffic = Money! This site is FREE to use for all of you and in return you are giving us your time, contributions and traffic. Someone has to pay the bills and in this "virtual" world website traffic is what pays the bills. Hard to imagine but that is how it works. The more traffic cerb.ca gets the more traffic it's sponsors receive (Advertisers on the site). This is how we pay for the site. If we made the site inaccessible from google and other search engines we would have no traffic, We would have no content, We would have no members, We would have nothing of value and we would have no computers and bandwidth to run the site. Bottom line we would have no business. I don't work for free (Shocking isn't it) I am PAID to run this website. I have other duties that involved things other then this website but at least 1/2 of my salary is to maintain cerb. The servers that run cerb, the bandwidth, the custom programming, license fee's, the chat room, etc... all cost money (You would be SHOCKED to know those costs!). My point here is that for every 10 visitors we get from google at least 1 of them end up visiting escorts-canada.com (The website that pays the bills for cerb) It's all about the math. Search engine math? Basically 5000 visitors per day is worth 100 grand a year. If you were to PURCHASE traffic from other sites (and that is not easy as a lot of sites DO NOT allow "Adult" related sites to buy advertising) it would cost a MINIMUM of .06 cents per visitor. (5000 X $.06) X 365 days a year = $109'500.00 We send a few thousand visitors to EC per day from cerb so our budget is no where near 100 grand but one day it may be!! So keep posting and spreading the word. Out budget here is based on this. (Traffic sent to EC X RATE .03) X 365 days a year = $BUDGET Notice the RATE is .03 and not .06 - If it was .06 it would be simply smarter to just purchase the traffic. If you can build your own traffic that cost 1/2 of what it would cost you to purchase the same traffic... it's a SMART business decision! (And is why cerb exists today).

Im sure we can ALL relate to this. Even Men. They seem to leave men out of these campaigns supporting self esteem. Men have heart, brains, and soul too. Only I guess it's less socially acceptable for men to have 'feelings' or 'body image issues'. Either way just wanted to share this link on how self critical people can be on themselves, yet the world sees them differently. ;-) Everyone has SEXY in them ;) Giddy Up!

I promised details of my birthday celebrations way back in Feb., and here they are, belated but better late... Miss Chloe of Melbourne is like a hot Eurasian Bond Girl. A stunner. Beautiful face, fit hot body, great sense of style and elegance. Smart, easy to talk to, fun to be with. Cumming, making someone cum, and laughter: the three great pleasures. It was the week before my birthday, and I wanted to indulge. I figured it would be hard to top last year's experience, which I reviewed on here (http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=318078&postcount=5) but it was worth a try. And Chloe is someone I had been corresponding with, and who interested me. :) A lot. :) We met. I gasped. OMG she's stunning. I hadn't seen her face before, but there she was, gorgeous, her symmetrical features framed by her long dark hair. Peeling off her clothes, that fit firm body to admire. Kissing, holding, my hands roaming, grasping her tiny round bum and her perky small breasts, inhaling them, inhaling her. Before we met I had warned her of my oral fixations, and she encouraged them. As much as I wanted. In many different ways. Perfection. Then the teasing of my cock, and the insertion, and the ride. Watching her in doggie turn around to watch me, kissing her in mish, rolling around locked in each other. Total intensity. And we talked. We found a level of confidence and comfort that allowed us to share all sorts of experiences, and then to drift off to sleep in each other's arms, well past the allotted time. It felt like a date, except it's not often that you get to have a date with a Bond Girl. Here she is: http://misschloeofmelbourne.com/ Have a look!

I have to say, being a BBW myself, that your approach in this post may be taken more negatively than you intended. It's wonderful that you are either searching for us confident sexy providers or trying to bring attention to us however using the term heaviest adds labels that aren't in keeping with the sexy women we truly are. Just my opinion, others may disagree. Good luck in any case.

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Lana for sure...she is a full figured lady, and she is awesome. Sophia Veroushka for massage...I have not had the opportunity to meet her but I hear great things. Sophia may also be able to suggest a lady as well for any romance dates. All the best and have fun. Bubbagump70

I just found a 1996 interview with her... really kinda cool!

I would never expect a gentleman to leave a tip although we are always appreciative. I know some men bring a tip for the first encounter or sometimes on the second encounter to show appreciation. This is always such a sweet gesture. It really is the best thank you an SP can get. However, if a gentleman does not tip his service should in no way be affected. We as service providers have set up our own rates and should never 'require' a tip to keep service at a certain level. Early in this thread Cat mentioned some of the additional expenses that SPs have and a tip does definitely ease some of those bills. Are they expected though? No. While a tip is always appreciated, the best tips an SP can get are courtesy, a sincere thank you, and repeat clients. :icon_biggrin:

A simple but kind, thoughtful and unexpected gesture :) And of course, spending time with my friends, family and pets!

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This is something I have always been interested in! CoB/CoF is something I always offer with my services, and it just so happens that "multiple male partners" is a favorite pass time of mine. That being said, I've never participated in a bukkake only party, though I have attended gang bang parties in the past. If I am invited to such an event, I would most likely show up 15 mins early and be more than eager. Like Angela, however, I would not be interested in participating voluntarily, nor be interested in having women who are not "PRO" (as she called them) present. To elaborate more on that...Yes, this is something I absolutely love, but the carpenter down the street loves his work too, doesn't mean he's gonna build you a nice custom poker table out of the kindness of his heart.... just saying.

Wow, great post! Thanks for this one:) I always admired this women! Trail blazer in her own right!

I also love Pumkin Spice, lavender and gingerbread scents for candles.

I recently went to see Olympus Has Fallen with Gerard Butler. It was pretty predictable but lots of action and sort of gory with blood and guts.lol.

We saw Oblivion yesterday. Good action flick, but somewhat predictable.

No word of Ariel for a long time, though apparently she's in occasionally.

I love them as well!!

So many I like; - women and in particular the contrast between a light perfume and their natural pussy - bread baking - summer camp fire and in winter walking outside and smelling all the fireplaces - babies - puppies - sawdust/wood cutting Not so good; - body odour - mustard

I'll take any feather....the questions is where will the feather go? ;-) Panties or Commando? Additional Comments: Im too slow at this thread game lol

Now up to 666 members! Waiting for spontaneous combustion any second..... :) Edit: Whew! That's a relief! We added a few more members, without combusting.... :)

So this is my virgin post here as I am normally on Terb but felt compelled to share a brief update here. I had the good fortune to meet who I think is Ottawa's best, Claire Heavens. I managed to see this beauty first on Friday nite for a 1 hour session of pure bliss. She is one of the most beautiful women I have ever met. Facially to me she is just gorgeous, her body is petite and sexy as all hell. Talking to her was like talking to a life long friend that just happens to be a sensuous bombshell. As soon as I experienced her the first time I knew I had to maximize my trip to Ottawa and book again on saturday. She is one reason why I would quit my job and relocate to Ottawa! What a gem. There are plenty of reviews of Claire here so no need for play by play. She makes up for all of Ottawa's flaws (like the senators). Thank you Claire. C u soon. The FB, xoxo

Oh wow ladies & gents... Friday was amazing. Another record smashing event & turnout. The ladies from Capital Tease were amazing and the CMJ bunnies were beyond sexy. If you missed this event, you wont want to miss our next event. Details coming soon Sunday April 21st Lilith 10-4 Cassie 10-10 Lola 11-7 Nadja 11-7 Asia 4-10 Monday April 22nd Nadja 10-10 Audrey 10-4 Kelly 10-5 Geri 10-4 Lola 11-7 Justine 4-10 Destiny 5-10 Tuesday April 23rd Mandy 9-2 Kelly 10-5 Holly 12-7 Molly 1-7 Destiny 5-10 Lilith 4-10 Wednesday April 24th Geri 10-4 Chloe 10-4 Amy 10-10 Mandy 11-10 Justine 11-7 Cassie 4-10 Thursday April 25th Kelly 10-5 Rosslyn 10-4 Destiny 11-7 Justine 11-7 Mandy 4-10 Chloe 4-10 Alexxis 5-10 Friday April 26th Mandy 9-2 Kelly 10-5 Jessie Destiny Justine Alexxis Cassie Saturday April 27th Destiny 10-4 Molly 10-4 Justine 11-7 Rosslyn 4-10 Jessie 4-10 Sunday April 28th Lilith 10-4 Cassie 10-10 Lola 11-7 Molly 4-10

Just bought this classic. I've looked for years trying to find it, and it was on sale at HMV. 5 bucks and it will never get pawned or loaned. I love this movie. Its interesting to see these actresses in their current roles and it is truly my most favorite movie. (well, except for Rocky Horror Picture Show, nothing can ever replace this one.) https://www.google.ca/search?q=bad+girls+movie+1994&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=alBzUe3vC8Si2QWn7YGICQ&ved=0CFYQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=673

Canada has the largest temperate rainforest in the world. (BC)

Doesn't take much to make me smile. sunny days sleeping in on weekends hearing kids laugh and this: :)

I am sorry to hear you had a bad experience with Hope. Just to let you and everyone else know that Hope is no longer with us, I do hope that you give us another shot. If not we understand and apologize deeply for your bad experience that happened. I would be more than willing to see you and treat you how you should be treated! Hope to see everyone real soon!

Unfortunately the number of people out there (men and women) who are truly wired polyamory and don't get jealous over physical intimacy is not very large. Even in this hobby, people will say one thing and then when the reality hits can't deal with it. And that is on both sides, providers and clients. I think you have to come clean with the person at the start and be 100% up front. You don't want to hide facts and then have them found out later. But then once the relationship is established the line has to be drawn about how much they get told, or can get involved. Like any relationship, the more successful one's have no surprises and work better when you both have the same understanding and "play by the same rules". Given the nature of this business it is best to get it all out in the open at the beginning, because it only gets messier, more painful and emotional later on. If you have a partner who can deal with it, then you are lucky and it can work.

Going as Sky now and I can confirm she is real... confirm she has pornstar looks...confirm pics on BP real

Dear capitalman, There are so many aspects of your post that on the surface ring true, but when the reality is examined shows the extreme differences between our professions. Comparing the life of a SP to any other business is not feasible. Yes, you have the same kind of overhead that we do, but you do not face the challenges that SP's do. It's important you have a clear understanding of the challenges we face before you start the comparison. Many of us independents are parents, have other jobs that do not pay the bills, but we have to maintain them to ensure we do not lose our children to the state, or have our teenage children put in a compromising "living off the avails" situation. Most of us have to sacrifice our personal lives in it's entirety to conduct our business as it needs to be if we are independent. As SP's we have a limited run, working extracts tolls that most cannot even imagine. As I have stated in previous posts, this is like the career of the professional athlete, you can only do it for so long before it does permanent, irreparable damage. For some it is a physical manifestation, but for most it is mental. It can and will leave scars on each and every SP in some way, and most are not equipped to deal with the fallout. You on the other hand, can continue to be a contractor until you decide to retire which gives you 30 some odd years to build and run your business and make your mark. SP's do not have that luxury, unless we are blessed with titanium inner strength and the good fortune to have a partner who shares our backbone. It's easier to find a 10 carat diamond in the Gatineau river, than a partner who can accept an SP's line of work. This is a line of work where we share the most intimate part of ourselves daily with complete strangers. The energy expended to ensure our guests leave feeling good is enormous. Even a legend like dummpy visits a maximum of one provider per day, we can see up to 5 or 6 guests maximum and that is a WOW day. Most of our time is spent in preparation, and when I average my day, I make about $22 an hour. Not bad for a country hick with no education. But it will be over at some point, what then? We move on, but unless we have invested the money we are back where we started. Most of us have bills to pay which is why we are working in this industry to begin with. SP's don't wake up one day and decide to go hustle. We choose it because our backs are against the wall and we have no other option. I have spent close to $250K on lawyers in the last 7 years because of the industry I am in. My RRSP's are lower than other women my age and my finacial future is entirely dependent on my ability to generate an income. Try for a minute to imagine what it is like to open the door to people you have never met, and take them into yourself. Over and over and over again. Now imagine the reality that many will have issues you find distasteful. Perhaps the hygiene is questionable, or his attitude is demeaning. He pinches and bites a bit too hard and leaves marks, or is too aggressive and leaves you sore and swollen. What if he is first for the day? Every guest after that just makes it worse, and even if they are someone you know and enjoy, it's hard to grit your teeth and not have them know you are in pain. Just think.... So when it comes to tipping, think about the entire scenario and the PERSON who has just made you smile. Realize the effort she puts in and acknowledge it, even if it is only an email saying thank you. $ will always be appreciated, but just knowing that someone gives kudos for a job well done is often enough... Catherine

Dummpy... So the way to show true appreciation is not by tipping AFTER the service, but instead to repeat. OMG!!! Now I have to go back and repeat with all of those fantastic ladies. What if they are FABULOUS the second time too (and of course they will be)? Then do I have to repeat a third time? Damn! Are we having fun yet or what???