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First, I will say don't be discouraged by these bargin hunters. Rates are a personal thing and if someone calls you and scoffs at them, it's not your problem. The service we provide as SPs is NOT a basic necessity but for some, they think it is and think they are entitled to getting a BJ for $50. Self entitlement for some plays a key role in our frustration as SPs as many of us think of it as a business while taking pride in it and not just slapping up an ad and expect to make a few bucks or whatever we can get. Once in a blue moon, I get asked "What can I get for $60?" To be honest, my smart ass bitchy inner voice would like to say " How about a kick in the pants!" However, I'm a professional so I grit my teeth and would like to rip my hair out when asked that question. Instead, I don't even reply. They are not my target market. Secondly, it's all where you advertise. If you are going on those so called classified sites where you pay X amount only to NOT find your ad there because their customer service department is crap, only letting you post a certain amount of info and they let competition flag your ad. What kind of business is that? I admit to using these types of in the past and have gotten some great customers but for every 10 callers, I found only one good customer who becomes a regular. Putting up with one liner questions such as "Rates?" "BBBJ?".. Again, this tells me they are out for the sexual act and not the experience. Since not advertising there for a long time, I have found better customers and already have a long list of established regulars and found that I don't need to use that site as much as I used to. At the same time, I am a seasoned SP and can weed through these guys like a lawnmower just based on the vibe I get from them, how they speak to me and the questions they ask. So once in a while I will put an ad there but often times have to put myself in a certain place to deal with those callers and not get frustrated. I was recently helping out a newer SP and I could see how agitated she was getting with being put on the spot and not being able to deal with the types of questions asked. I decided to answer for her so she could listen to how I spoke with them and it resulted in being a double edged sword with someone then asking about me and that I had the sexiest voice. Okay, that didn't work out too well. Third, are you just offering sexual acts or the whole experience? This will completely define your target market. Invest in your business and while you have to spend money to make money, it is well worth the investment. Advertising here is a great start and move onto a website along with banners. You will find that there will be less and less headaches of having to put up with these bargin hunters who don't give a hoot who is servicing them and completely limit their selection of woman based on price. The potential customer who is looking for the "experience" will take time to do his research and will have read and understand the information you have put out there in whatever type of advertising avenue you have chosen. In their eyes, they are hoping the experience you offer will be well worth it and if you are an SP who is good at what she does, you won't have a problem with this. In some ways, I can understand where these bargin hunters want the best SP for less in basic terms of receiving a service on a level comparable to other products or service industries but what they don't take into consideration is once again this service is a luxury and also we are not car tires or snow blower machines. They do not need a BJ as opposed to when they need to buy a loaf of bread to put on the table. SPs are not commodities although some men like to treat us this way. This has been the turning point in this business and it hasn't been for the best. They want everything for $60 but then feel cheated because they didn't get this or that, the girl was a clock watcher and kicked them out once finished to completion or the person's place was a dive. What do they expect for that kind of money? You get what you pay for in these scenarios. Don't let this get you down though. There are plenty of men who do appreciate us and understand where we are coming from in a business sense. There are a lot of behind the scenes work we do as SPs to complete the perfect ambience when a client visits us. This includes, cleaning, vacuuming, laundry, time travelling to various incall locations as in my case, making ourselves looks good. This is all part of the job and there is no way in hell, I'm going to do all that for a $60 BJ just because someone has money to burn in their pocket. The time invested has to be equivalent to the outcome and that is the rate we charge. Stick to your guns about what YOU feel your time is worth and put it out into the universe. Ask, believe and receive is my philosophy in this business.

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Business is booming for the sex trade in Newfoundland and Labrador, as workers in the industry move from walking the streets to posting online. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/05/06/nl-sex-trade-boom-investigation-507.html

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I suspect that those asking are the trolls and bottom-feeders who are looking for new girls who they can pressure into offering lower rates or services that they wouldn't otherwise. I'm going to guess that established providers don't see quite as much low-balling as 'inexperienced' girls who are just starting out in the industry. So yes, it probably works sometimes or they wouldn't do it. It does, however, answer the question of whether or not you should bother communicating with these cretins. Ignore them and they'll move on.

I understand the aggravation... but for a first timer, even that "hi" is a big step. This is not an apology for the guys that have been on the boards for quite some time or for someone that has had more than one experience. This is for that first timer. "Hi" is hell. "Hi" is scary. "Hi" means that he has stepped out of his comfort level, regardless of what it is, and decided to delve into a world that is completely foreign to him. We all know the media portrayals; rarely are they positive. But the guy that says just "hi" is going against everything he has been shown and everything that society has told him, and is entering a great big world unknown to him. He may have been debating that "hi" text for weeks. He probably wrote and erased that "hi" a dozen times on his phone and when he finally was satisfied with that message, debated again just pressing the "send" button. "Hi" means that he has decided on extra marital adventure for the first time. "Hi" means that he is lonely and doesn't have the social skills for intimate relationships in the real world. "Hi" means that he and his SO have broken up and is reaching for something to ease the pain for just a short amount of time. "Hi" means so many things, and it could be that you, the recipient are the one he has chosen out of a hundred other possibilities to help him. He doesn't know the next step. He's never done this before. He is scared. Believe me, he is petrified. You are beautiful and sexy and are offering him things that he hasn't had in a long time, if ever. He may stop at just "hi." That may have been the limit of his fortitude. He may just say to himself, "I can't do this." So when you get upset at "hi," please understand that at one time he may have been ALL of us, everyone who gets into the hobby for one of the multitude of reasons that we do the things we do. I apologize if I have offended, all I want to do is give some sense of what that "hi" was all about. I rest my case.

"many men" all also jerks. There. We got that out of the way. I sympathize with your observation about business slowing down. The industry I work in also has it's busy times and slow times. Comes with the territory of being a discretionary expense. And yes, we get the same guys calling us and trying to bargain down our rates. I've heard our dispatcher hang up on people who were too insistent on lowering the rates. Let me add my voice to the others who said stick by your prices. Your time is worth what you say it is. Hang in there and only accept clients that you feel good about accepting. Both you and the client will enjoy the ride a whole lot more that way. At least, that's how it works in my industry.

I think these things go in cycles. Only you can determine what you feel is a reasonable price for your service. I've seen instances where ladies have started to offer specials which I think is really a bad idea, as you get known for it and you drag the price down for everyone. All you can do is work a little harder at getting more calls, maybe a few new photos or adjusting the way you advertise.

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It's been just over a year since I stumbled across this board and the awesome experiences that resulted. Feeling a bit nostalgic, I realized one thing made it just that much easier to get in. It's that first introduction. I found 2 or 3 MA's that I was thinking about seeing, but had absolutely no idea on what to say in the beginning. Keep in mind, I was completely fresh, and still oh so very innocent :p I had absolutely no idea what the etiquette was, should I be direct in what I was looking for? Talk about the weather like a good Canadian? Say my name and state what time I wanted to see her? I must have thought about that first email for over an hour. And when I sent it off, I was regretting every letter in it. Anyway, one MA gave a few suggestions on what specifically she was looking for, and it helped so much. It kinda normalized things for me, taking this horribly nervous guy to the next step. I appreciated that so much. Anyway, I just want to thank those who have that little bit of a guideline on what you're looking for, it's helped so much.

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Since the vast majority of the population (99 % ?) has no clue about the industry or how it operates they (civilians) would have likely found the story quite fascinating and very titillating. Insiders will obviously have a much different perspective than the media and John and Jane Public for that matter on this topic. There have been stories about Fort Mac and lately from North Dakota a story about a shortage of exotic dancers and I think it goes hand in hand with boom towns. The very exposure the internet provides for meeting perspective clients also puts that same exposure into the public domain. And if I hadn't had some notion of the players exposed I wouldn't have given the story a second glance. The smoke will clear sooner than later and it will be (if it already isn't) business as usual. Peace MG

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I have to agree on this one with Sophia.., stick to yoir rates, you know what you are worth.., there is the guys that just shop around to find a "deal" what the dont understand is that they will get what they pay for... Until some one has had the chance to meet you they cant tell.., and is even worse sometimes as an MA because sometimes some guys (normally not CERB members) will think that just because you dont offer fs your services are not worth..., but what they need to understand is than visiting an MA and An SP are different experiences, and we do both in each case are spending time with them...

Sometimes we just need to weed threw the ones who are bargain hunters. If you stick to your rate, then eventually they move on to find the ones they can afford. I find at times it comes in waves, lol... After they have all contacted you, and you refuse to negotiate, they will simply go elsewhere, no need to waste time with tying to get them in your door, because it can become extremely frustrating and disheartening after awhile:( This is a luxury that not all can afford. Best wishes!!

As a hobbiest, when I request an appointment with a Lady, I consider that I do commit myself toward the provider. It happened to me a couple of time that I had, at the last minute, to cancel due to some emergency related to my work. In those cases, it was obvious to me that the burden of my hectic schedule could not be on the shoulders on the provider, and I offered the full donation, and supplied it. I expect from the Sp that she will be ready for me and available for all the time I've asked. When we agreed on a date and time, it is obvious that the Lady will prepare herself in advance, and her time is not only given during the appointment, but goes beyond. I would consider normal that, at least, the hobbiest offers a compensation, and, like I said, a full compensation would be appropriate. It is up to the provider to accept or refuse, but at least, she will have the possibility to decide what is the best scenario for her in the circumstances. My experiences with SP are only related to the CERB ladies, and I find that we have here the "crême de la crême" of people; to make that possible we have to treat the ladies accordingly.

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Its being discussed in NFLD as well http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=130766 A deposit is one thing, but a lady with one add asking for full payment upfront is enough to make you start to think why? If a reputable lady only asks for a deposit, why would a basic unknown want a full payment, and WHY on earth would you pay someone you dont know upfront in full. Chances are she is not even in the city and it is an internet scam. This is a definite case of Buyer Beware.

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Aquarius Jan 20 - Feb 18 Home and family are priorities now. Be creative and communicate to fix an awkward situation. At work, be politically correct. If you go over your bosses head, you are asking for trouble. When its about money, common sense rules! Whew! I just have to be politically correct at work... :)

It means a lady who doesn't just lay there limbs spread out while the partner does whatever to them. Starfish: Female sexual partner who remains 'unmoved' or 'unmoving' during lovemaking, physically non-responsive (like a ...), A girl that has no talent or technique for sex. That is, she just lays there spreed out dead in the water, like a starfish. Non starfish service I hope would be a good thing although what a distinction to advertise with. Additional Comments: Or I suppose it's a really obtuse way of saying no Greek..... Being that I love Greek I have never heard this term used but urban Dictionary confirms it. I have much more sexy and delicious terms for the anal bud than starfish.....learn something new every day! Thanks metonycap *kiss*

OMG! You read my mind! I wanted to start one as well. Thanks for posting this!

Charlotte mentions $1500 dollars in her response.

When I was searching the first time, after reviews and recommendations, the fee was my next deciding factor. I had a number in mind, and anything below or equal to it was a go, anything above was an absolute no. From repeated threads and posts here, one thing that was very clear was that negotiating is just not done. I wanted a great experience, not to sour the SP if I were to meet her, and starting of with "Hey! Discount?!" But those who aren't too particular may not see the harm in asking. You say no, they move on, so it's not a big deal for them. The worst that could happen is that someone they couldn't afford to see has confirmed it. But I'm kinda curious now, if people do ask, is it because sometimes it's worked?

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Plays safe FS but bbbj, cim was definitely on the table.

Look for it then ;) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=316

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Happy birthday Eva ! and all the best for you !

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Happy Birthday Eva Enjoy Your special day RG

My wife and I have gone for a couples message a few times. We talked about it for a long time in our "dirty talk" during sex. But as you noted things said during that time to not always translate to what folks wish to do outside of play time. In the end I think what finally convinced her to go was one, the hot tub, where we went. As it offered a chance to relax just the two of us. The MP asked if we wanted a little time first to relax before the massage. The other thing was it would be a massage and only would go further if she was comfortable with it having a happy ending. The girl who gave the massage was great at her work and helped her relax and in the end it was a very good time.

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Just one thing for next time, Meaghan... the social time at the beginning of the date was fantastic, and it was lovely of you to let me take a picture of you... but... Next time we need to make sure Lee's not in the background, okay?

Hi gorgeous! While there are a lot of hotels and restaurants downtown along Princess street, the street is undergoing some serious construction for most of this year. Also, if the nearby K-Rock centre (which is downtown too) is having an event on then parking is even a greater nightmare! Just some things to think about.

I don't ;ike one worded texts like rate? how much? available? it really doesn't give me a good feeling about the person at all.

Wow, 6 posts and nobody mentioned Jude. There are lots of great massage providers/therapists in Ottawa and Jude is right up there near the top !

Jude, Vienna, and Marie-Soliel are all excellent masseuses and very sexy

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You obviously dont know the whole story and we are not making it public as per the request of those involved but aubrey is welcome back once she has fixed the problem that got her suspended in the first place. The council is privy to the info and the council voted her banned here until she fixes the issue. This topic is closed and not up for public debate here .... And trust me if you knew the real true story you would not be crying foul here!