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Dear one.... Are you saying that you book 30-minute meetings and then always go overtime, getting that extra 50% for free, and that you're proud of it? Has it occurred to you that these ladies may not feel that they're able to tell you to leave or to ask you to pay for the additional time? Surely you're not advising others to engage in such exploitation. That's not how gentlemen behave.

In my experience, this is unfortunately the distinguishing point between hobbyists/lifestylers and those men who troll CL & BP looking for a "date". Just to clarify, I know there are many CERB members who use these sites it is not you I'm referring to. The men who troll seem to reduce women to playthings to be used and discarded as they whim suits them. They tend to use direct verbiage and statements such as "will you suck my cock" or "I want a blowjob, how much". There tends to be no respect, no real communication and no pleasantries, almost like we're not worth the effort of normal interactions. Unfortunately many of the girls who are looking to make a quick buck, support a habit, have esteem issues etc. accept this behavior which only serves to perpetuate it. How many CERB ladies who have chosen this as a profession/calling would even indulge such behavior? None! These men think that they're dealing with the same level of ladies and quickly get cut off at the knees. As much as we rally and fight to be recognized for what we do and why, there is still the other side of the equation that feeds into all the stereotypes and negativity surrounding the profession. Would be nice if no matter the setting or people involved, people just gave a little more respect and politeness. Yes, there would still be issues because people have issues yet even a little extra attention to how we treat people could go a long way. No worries people, I'm not gonna start a rendition of Kumbaya!

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=77835 Well deserved and long overdue as her many reviews and dedication to this site will attest, congrats Tracie ( Midnight Massage) you certainly have earned it-hugs

After seeing Kylie Daniels' pictures in the Bikini thread, I have no choice but to nominate her yet again as cerb Goddess! :)....

I am not in Ottawa, but I can tell you from someone who's had a golden shower fetish since she was very young... that most people don't admit it freely. It could be a self confidence thing, it could just be that, as you said, it's very "taboo". I spent the better part of my life hiding my desire for it, as I thought it was "wrong". Society has a tendancy to make us believe that anything outside THEIR realm of "normal" is wrong. For me? We live once. So experience experience experience !!! Giving AND receiving are both wonderful. Even giving to YOURSELF can be a very erotic experience. Feel free to PM me sometime :)

Just thought I'd throw that out there. WHO'S WITH ME!! EDIT: Apparently I can't spell!!

Booking for 30 minutes with the planned intent of taking around 45 minutes, is just absolutely wrong, it might happen once, but it should not be the intent, and if it happens you should tip to cover the extra time. The egregious part of Luv269 is that this is not only planned, but expected and viewed as a major accomplishment. This is not something to be proud of, more that you should feel guilty of your behaviour.

I love a man who loves it! Not much to add other than there is nothing hotter, sexier than watching a man enjoy it and feeling his cock grow in my mouth while I devour his deliciousness. Cake or cock, well some of you know how much I love cake but cock wins hands down!

For the past four days I have received over 30 some stupid blowjob referencing emails, example, I love blow job, will you give me a sofa blowjob, ect, ect , from one of or all of the above! The first six or seven I ignored the next one "Will you suck my cock" I responded to saying "go ask your mother" so the twenty something more came, moral to the story and obvious common sense advice- do not respond to these kooks, ignore, ignore ignore, I should have know better, responding to these freaks is like putting gas on a fire!

I'm a little sad to read something like this, because I've had clients try and do the same thing to me - and they are clients I unfortunately no longer see. I had a gentleman see me a handful of times, and every time it would be at least at 40 minutes before our session would end. And it would only end because I finally said we're way past our time. The last few times, I pointed this out, and said perhaps we should start booking longer sessions. The last time he contacted me, I finally said, great, I'd love to see you, but only if we book for 45-minutes as our sessions always go longer than 30 minutes. He accused me of 'upselling', and I haven't seen him since. I wasn't upselling - he KNEW he took more than the paid time, and when I finally asked to be paid for the time he actually took, he walked away. It was unfortunate, because I enjoyed my time with him. But I refused to be taken advantage of...and I truly hate hearing about other girls being taken advantage of in the same way. Sometimes sessions go a little longer, and we all (well hopefully we all!) understand it can happen.... but if you know you need more than 30 minutes, you should be booking more than 30 minutes. It will make the time more enjoyable for both of you, and ensure that lady is getting the rate she deserves.

If no fuel is added to his fire it will burn out. He will get bored faster the more you just ignore him.

Sad. Why waste their own time wit this crap let alone yours Cristy... Ignoring can be hard, I know I'm a ginger and love a good fight lol, but sometimes it is just simply the most productive response we can provide...

That moment when a woman takes me into her mouth.....

I always giggle when a man tells me that he doesn't want me to go down on him as he wants it to be about me. Blow jobs are about me. I LOVE giving them, makes me very... VERY wet!

snuggling up to someone you love and trust. be it a close friend or lover

Love to touch and be touched in so many ways all over my body, but one special touch that first comes to mind is gentle hands in my hair. It gives me erotic shivers down my spine, and a tingle between my legs. ;) I am a major massage slut too. Just can't get enough. I used to pick up random guys on online dating websites just to come over and give me full body massages... bah ha ha. Also, I have recently taken a special liking to soft but firm rubbing on my bum cheeks... Feels so nice. :)

Welcome to CERB! :) You should consider it a good thing to have so many great choices!! We have an amazing selection of lovely ladies in Ottawa. :) One thing I would like to suggest if I may... There are many great ladies of all ages, but ladies maybe 24+ years who has a few extra years of experience in man-comfort might be more suitable for the first time kind of experience you are looking for. A lady who has seen several newbies maybe and who knows exactly what it takes to make a nice young lad like yourself feel instantly at ease. What you need is a woman, not a girl, who can show you how it's done... professional, yet easy going and casual. ;) We have many ladies like this around, but your best chance at finding someone who will be close to your taste, is to indeed put in a little bit of time to browse the advertisement and recommendation sections. A nice lady is worth putting in a little bit of effort for, right? ;)

Okay now THAT made me laugh out loud and keep giggling for awhile. For the record I LOVE fellatio so I'm allowed to giggle!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006041513638 LOL..couldn't resist!

I'm off to Argentina! My abstract was accepted for a conference in August. I posted about it in my blog: http://lovely-nathalie.com/blog/ Nat xox

Ill step in here, he's not a shill or a shit disturber, in fact he was a long time member before. He left the board after the story aired as it was too close to home. Hopefully when this all dies down he will rejoin the board as in NFLD he was a valid contributor.

I understand the aggravation... but for a first timer, even that "hi" is a big step. This is not an apology for the guys that have been on the boards for quite some time or for someone that has had more than one experience. This is for that first timer. "Hi" is hell. "Hi" is scary. "Hi" means that he has stepped out of his comfort level, regardless of what it is, and decided to delve into a world that is completely foreign to him. We all know the media portrayals; rarely are they positive. But the guy that says just "hi" is going against everything he has been shown and everything that society has told him, and is entering a great big world unknown to him. He may have been debating that "hi" text for weeks. He probably wrote and erased that "hi" a dozen times on his phone and when he finally was satisfied with that message, debated again just pressing the "send" button. "Hi" means that he has decided on extra marital adventure for the first time. "Hi" means that he is lonely and doesn't have the social skills for intimate relationships in the real world. "Hi" means that he and his SO have broken up and is reaching for something to ease the pain for just a short amount of time. "Hi" means so many things, and it could be that you, the recipient are the one he has chosen out of a hundred other possibilities to help him. He doesn't know the next step. He's never done this before. He is scared. Believe me, he is petrified. You are beautiful and sexy and are offering him things that he hasn't had in a long time, if ever. He may stop at just "hi." That may have been the limit of his fortitude. He may just say to himself, "I can't do this." So when you get upset at "hi," please understand that at one time he may have been ALL of us, everyone who gets into the hobby for one of the multitude of reasons that we do the things we do. I apologize if I have offended, all I want to do is give some sense of what that "hi" was all about. I rest my case.

Good thread. An unusual regret many may say. My one regret in life is that I studies for so many years all the way to the highest degree and now in my mid 40's I have only 15 years of pension (not to mention I over-qualified myself for many jobs) and have to work another 20 years to have a comfortable retirement income. If I am born again I would only go up to the Bachelor's degree and go to work at 23 and retire when I will be 55 to enjoy the second half of my life travelling around the world.

I know this may look fishy, but when I saw Tracie's congrats to me for 500+ posts, I noticed she just hit the 200 mark. Tracie is a great contributor and she encourages community participation. I look forward to reading many more of Tracie's posts, the fun ones, the hot ones and the quirky.

I love your positive attitude and the fact that you love women and aren't afraid to show it. You support many of our lovely ladies and add to many of the lively and fun discussions! Looking forward to the next 400! Thanks!

My apologies for my tardiness on this one you sexy amazing thing you. I was enraptured with your naughty writing and completely distracted from noticing the post roll over.....I hope you'll forgive me or at least spank me!! Seriously though, your posts are wonderful and sexy and humorous and I do so enjoy them. I'm looking forward to many more...some with bated breath!! *rawr* xo

I had the pleasure of meeting Lynn last saturday. Only two words to say guys..Freaking Awesome!! Had tried to mett her a couple of times earlier which didn't work out for different reasons. But texted her saturday eve and set up a time on short notice. And yes she is someone that you want to just look at..and lick..from top to bottom. 69 was absolutely delicious and the view with her on top was something to die for. She really does get into it and seems to enjoy herself as much as i did. My only complaint was no msog. This girl is one that you want to enjoy over and over :-) I will definitely see her again as soon as possible.

Congrats! Always enjoy reading your posts.

What a pain to have to deal with. If blocking the email hasn't worked, you might want to try marking them as spam: Alternatively, you could try creating a filter, where you create a rule so that whenever an email from a certain address comes in it goes to a spot you assign it (presumably the trash can!): To use a particular message to create a filter Select the message in your message list. Click the More button, then Filter messages like these. Enter your filter criteria in the appropriate field(s).

Are they all from same user name? Can you block them? If not that would be a good feature to add to the site. I know you'll still get a few idiots but I'm sure it won't be as bad. Well hopefully those idiot read your thread and think twice but that maybe too much to ask.

You do have to ignore them or like you say...it's like putting gas on a fire. Keep in mind there are people on these sites that are truly mentally challenged.

I think it is one of life's greatest pleasures. Sometimes I love a long slow session and other times a fast n furious session. This may be over share, but I was with a gal in my 30's for about 8 years who hated oral. Either way. 8 years people!!!

I have a criminal record that needs sorting out, and I'll need another credit card to pay for it. I enjoy a beer after running through mud. And I need to hook up with a hot 20-year-old, preferably on a rather nice-looking boat with butler service.

Congratulations Sweet Lady! Keep them coming, your posts are a joy to read. Big Hugs, Lexy

Have to shampoo my hair first before washing body. Have to brush teeth before putting on face moisturizer. I change out of my street clothes before sitting on my bed Having to take a shower even if I'm clean before getting into bed. I never leave my purse on a floor in public. Don't like people sitting on my own personal bed in my bedroom. I brush my teeth 3 times in a row in the morning and 3 times in a row before bed. I am also a mouthwash freak. I hate scuff marks on the wall esp in high traffic areas of my house and will incessantly go around looking for them with a damp cloth.

I've had the chance of meeting sex providers who offered me their orgasm as a complement to mine and it has been a wonderfull experience each time. In all cases this became possible because we were both very comfortable with each other and spontaneously in full confidence, based on mutual respect and an undefinable chemistry. But I'm a realist and I understand that it is not part of the contract. If it's there, it's great. If it's not there, the encounter is still a unique moment. For me, at least, and I hope, never unpleasant for my sexual partner.

Thanks to OD and angela for organizing it:) Again a good turn out! And I apologize to everyone that I may have said stupid things or started to randomly making out with...people were too nice and kept buying me wine ¨>,>

It seems to be the 500 week yay Congrats!

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Not to hijack the thread but Cristy brings up a very important point. Many of the gents posting here have indicated that the ladies pleasure is very important and I applaud that, however women ARE all "tuned" different. That's an important thing to realize when a client is putting all that pressure on himself to try to please the lady. Specifically when the end game is the lady having an orgasm. What works physically for one will not work for another. Some ladies a blessed with the ability to orgasm even at the slightest stimulation while others can take considerable time to get there. As we should be all aware achieving enjoyment through sexual contact is to a large degree a mental thing. As much as we clients would like to think that our sexual prowess is enough to compensate for our physical attributes and sex appeal and take a lady over the edge usually this is not the case. This is not to say that that the lady may not enjoy the time we spend sensually exploring her and allowing her to explore us. As much as I (and others here) would like to believe otherwise, I am not a sexy man or a lover extraordinaire. I'm a realist, with me if I don't take the time to connect with the SP on some type of emotional level first it's unlikely that I'm going to be able to make her orgasm from my physical attributes and abilities alone. (LOL, I realise that this comment may not result in SP's lining up to spend time with me) Personal story. My wife loves sex and is a sexual person, however in her younger years as much as I tried my wife took a long time to orgasm with a lot of foreplay (seriously like over an hour for sure). As someone who gained a lot of his own pleasure from her pleasure this was very frustrating for me and resulted in feelings of inadequacy. As a result I seriously studied everything I could get my hands on regarding sexual arousal and techniques to try to make myself better. However dispite the fact that she was eager, the speed at which I could make her orgasm never improved. So as a result, a love making session would often take a couple of hours. (Jump forward a few years) we have a baby. The first time we had sex after that she had multiple orgasms in like less than five minutes however my techniques had not changed. Ever since she is very orgasmic and gets there with very little stimulation at all even just rubbing her mons and holding her against me tight cam make her cum. We don't know what happened but something changed. My feelings of inadequacy vanished and I felt like a stud. Enter SP's, and I'm back to having to work at it again. Moral of story, every lady is different and might even change over time in her ability to orgasm so don't focus on the destination focus on the journey. Orgasms (male or female) are great but fleeting, connection on an emotional level tends to last and hang with you and IMHO is the most important. Have fun everyone and never suppress your enjoyment of each other.

I think that the common thought and thread here is that whenever possible pleasure for "both" parties is paramount. So if as an SP or client, you feel it, enjoy it and show it. However, in reality there will be days where either party will not be at their best and that's ok. I'll be very blunt, if I'm involved with an SP and I sense that dispite my best efforts she's just not getting there on that day, at that time for whatever reason I'd just rather roll over, lay back, trace my fingers over her skin and chat. Trying to just carry on and power through for the sake of "finishing" is just embarrassing. Because I derive so much of my pleasure from the ladies pleasure I've learned that for me longer dates are my preference. That way I can have a sufficient amount of time to connect with the lady and allow the pleasure to build for both parties.

Live for today and not tomorrow.

I suspect it's simply a human thing. As we go through life we face many forks in the road, and meet many people along the path. In that sense, there are always "what if" questions. What if I had done that differently, what if I had followed her when she left, what if I had returned that phone call, what if I hadn't ignored the warning signs, what if I had said "I love you" when I had the chance. All very human ... learn from mistakes, and try not to repeat them. A lot of wisdom in this thread. Thanks for starting it.

"Woodys". I think gets the point across.

I try to be compassionate with myself as much as possible. While regret is useful, as articulated by Porthos, it does not serve a purpose beyond learning about oneself. If ever I experience a twinge of regret, I try to remind myself that in that moment (the moment over there, forgotten, lapsed, or otherwise inaccessible), I made the best possibile decision for myself. Perhaps now I'm different, or somehow wiser (possible older?), but that doesn't mean that back then my decision wasn't right for me. With age comes that recognition. I made a lot of really stupid mistakes, even within the past few years, but I've learned incredibly valuable lessons from them. I try not to be too hard on myself :) This was a wonderful thread, thank you so much Al!

While running this evening I came upon a very elderly couple walking slowly, smiling at each other and holding hands. True love exists !

Bottoms up? Or Dick's? :)

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I think most of us feel more comfortable in our own space so in that sense I prefer hosting however, I do enjoy outcalls and understand that is more convenient for some gentlemen. I feel more at ease when is with someone I have met or have communicated for a while but I do not worry about safety as I would not meet someone I have concerns about for incall either. The only thing I would not feel comfortable with and I'm not saying is wrong just is not for me, is to visit someone at the place he shares with someone, particularly when that someone is a SO. I find is a bit disrespectful (and I'm talking on my side, I do not judge the other person views on it) and also there is a certain level of risk as even when the other person is not expected things happen and plans change and having the person show up while I'm there would change a nice date to a disaster one.

Well, RG, to be perfectly honest, the reason that some of us ask for a work number is that men lie. Shocking, isn't it? But they do. This is how it works: The man's CERB handle is "LuckyJohn789" and he has made, say, 273 posts, establishing a reputation for himself as a guy who can log in pretty often and write a few words. Asked for his real, full name, he says it's "John A. Smith" and the cell number he gives has voice mail on it saying, "Hello, this is John A. Smith. Sorry I can't take your call...". He doesn't want to give his work number to a companion. She only wants to be able to call XYZ Co. and verify that John A. Smith is an employee there. That's all. These calls happen all the time--credit card companies and others make them routinely. He gets irritated and paranoid. What if she discovers that there is no John A. Smith at XYZ Co? (There isn't, because he's really Fred T. Jones and he works for ABC Enterprises.) She might... post something, somewhere on CERB and out him, making it much harder for him to pose as a non-poseur. Why, he'd have to start over, create a new identity, post another two hundred "I agree" and "X has a point. That's my experience, too" kinds of statements for another few of months, along with a couple of phony reviews, before he can claim his reputation makes him a reliable, straight-up kind of guy whom any companion would welcome into her place, bed and body with open arms. He takes the path of highest dudgeon. If he gives the companion his work number, then, why, she'll know where he works! What if she outs him to his colleagues and others at his workplace? It's unthinkable! He's right about that. He never considers, for a moment, whether the companion has a reputation for doing this kind of thing. (Trust me, if she's done it even once, her poor victim will probably have posted the details on every escort board on the continent.) He never wonders why the company telephone receptionist would believe an unexpected call from SuzyHotStuff saying that John A. Smith has a habit of chatting up prostitutes online and maybe even trying to get a date with one of them. He doesn't pause to think about what kind of proof she would have to offer that would convince his employer to take a second look at him. He goes through considerable gymnastics over the question, reframing her concerns for her safety in terms that have to do with his privacy, discretion, need for confidentiality and entitlement to automatic respect, sight unseen. He claims moral outrage and says, in effect, that he's a stand-up kind of guy, salt of earth with a heart of gold, whereas everyone knows that all women on these boards are like SuzyHotStuff--hookers just waiting to take advantage of their next trick so that they can ruin a good man's life. It's an outrage! What will these women think of next? He'd never hurt a fly--it's obvious! He promises he'll keep the meeting, pay the full fee (which he may also mutter is more than she really deserves, but he's a generous guy and the girl is obviously having a hard time in life or she wouldn't be fucking for a living) and that they'll have a good time. He claims to be the soul of honesty and transparency except for this one, little detail: he doesn't want to give his work telephone number. But the companion who is considering meeting with John A. Smith knows what he knows, too, but will never say. He's not as honest as he claims. He's married. He has two or three kids. There could be hell, and legal bills, and years of child and spousal support to pay if his wife finds out what he's up to. He'll do anything he can to keep the wife from finding out about him. That's where the risk starts for most of us. When men are desperate and afraid, they often become impulsive and self-justifying. Unfortunately, that's when we women are most likely to be hurt, or worse. People will lie in order to get something they want or to avoid responsibility for the things they've done. Men will lie to their wives, to their friends, to their employers and colleagues, to their paid companions, to the police and the courts.... Understand? We know that men lie. We do know that. We know that they want to have some fun on the side without negative repercussions or fall-out. Yes, we know that. Not only do we know it, but we'll help you keep your secret. This business thrives on secrets well-kept. Give her the number. Make the appointment. Pay her in full. Have a good time. Give her a decent tip, too, if you like her. Go on your way. See her again, or not. End of story.