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Ladies... we are not that complicated. Really we aren't. Much like the Happy Hobbyist thread, I hope we can dispel some of the unknown mysteries of manhood... stuff that you may or may not have difficulty in grasping.... So here goes. 1. Answering Questions Men, as stated before, are not complicated. In fact, we are rather simple. Painfully so. Rather like rocks. Rocks that get excited by the sight of naked women. Frankly, when you ask us questions, we go into panic mode. Panic. Sheer terror. Don't get me wrong, it's not that we don't know the answer to things you ask, we just don't know that answer that can't be interpreted by you to cause tears or anger. Simple questions. Really simple questions. "What do you want for breakfast?" Ummmmm... if I say bacon, I am being insensitive to the needs of slaughterhouse pigs, her need to maintain a fat free diet, her Jewish friend Sarah that may drop over today, and to the mess that bacon causes in the kitchen. But I like bacon. I say, "bacon."... and she's okay with that. Whew. and then I say, "... and eggs." And that's when the tears come. I have no idea why eggs cause tears but they do. Now I figure that bacon and eggs are a natural combination. When I say "eggs" she believes that there is an ulterior motive. Like an affair. With an egg merchant's daughter. A younger, prettier egg merchant's daughter. That I have NEVER met. But because I have said "eggs", I won't have sex with my SO for a month. I am just glad that I didn't ask for orange juice. Men, well we say things because ummmm... it's what pops into our heads. There's no deeper meaning. Remember the "simple" part. That's us. It comes with a penis and testicles. Standard equipment. We selfishly answer simple questions with simple answers. 2. The Toilet Seat Men have the option of either sitting or standing to pee. It's one of the glories of being a man. We can step back a few paces and let a glorious golden arc escape us and giggle with manly glee that we hit a porcelain bowl dead in the centre with the acumen of ancient archers. We have been educated for years by our matriarchs that peeing on the seat is inappropriate. So we walk over and carefully LIFT the SEAT. We CHECK TO SEE WHETHER the SEAT IS UP. We use our man hands and manipulate the seat to a position that will accommodate our urinary delight. The seat is often callously left in the seated position by those who have tread before us. Undaunted, and in consideration of others we do not pee while the seat is in the down position. No. We check the seat position and lift it. See the theme? Ladies. You have eyes. You have lady hands. Manipulate that seat to the down position when you have to go pee. I know you can do it. You don't need to plunge your lady bits into an abyss of icy cold aquatic hell... check the seat position... like we do ... EVERY TIME WE PEE. more to come...

Actually douche bag and sex offender Remember, any unwanted sexual contact is a sexual assault. Seeing a professional companion doesn't give a guy carte blanche approval to do any sexual activity he wants, the lady's boundaries must be respected RG

I don't think you were wrong to ask, though neither do I think she was wrong to decline your request and end the conversation if that's how she was inclined. Presumably she has enough clients who are comfortable meeting her rate without question, that she can afford to screen clients who aren't. It's just one of those human things; you and the SP were simply on different wavelengths and it didn't work out. No harm, no foul, just move on.

A man who smells delicious. And is funny. Drool worthy. P.s. Wash your hands after peeing...... Yes i can tell if you did or not! :-)

It depends on the chemistry and hygiene to begin with but I know that I adore DFK and from personal experience, so does Sara McQuestion. Just look at profiles and ask the ladies directly, you will get a clearer picture. Because of the YMMV factor, one hobbyists experience isn't indicative of what you will get in this instance... cat

I wanted to take a few moments to thank not only the gentlemen but the entire Cerb community for one of the best changes I've seen since my return to the hobby ( had been gone since 2008 )... During the pre-chatroom era ( circa 2005-2008 ) I was often chastised for being an SP who wasn't a size 0. I'm a size 12. You know who else was a size 12? Marilyn. I don't need to write out her last name, you know damn well who I am talking about. Over the last few months, I can see that the diversity of cerbites has increased greatly, which shows in cases like preferable women's sizes no longer being a biased, one-sided affair. Even if women my size are not your cup of tea, the respect shown concerning "to each their own" is staggeringly exceeding my expectations. Thank you cerbites for believing in "all women are beautiful in their own way" !!! An especially BIG thanks to the mods also, as this chastisement was allowed to take place on "the other board" which is the main reason for my switch to this one only :) I love your no tolerance for BS! ________________________________________________ FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 1. Marilyn Monroe's body measurements: Height: 5'5 Weight: 118-140 lbs Bust: 35-37 inches Waist: 22-23 inches Hips: 35-36 inches Bra size: 36D 2. Dove's "REAL BEAUTY" campaign: http://www.dove.ca/en/Social-Mission/About-the-Movement.aspx 3. Definition beau·ti·ful adj. a) Having qualities that delight the senses, especially the sense of sight. b) Excellent; wonderful. beauti·ful·ly adv. beauti·ful·ness n. Synonyms: beautiful, lovely, pretty, handsome, comely, fair All these adjectives apply to what excites aesthetic admiration. Beautiful is most comprehensive: a beautiful child; a beautiful painting; a beautiful mathematical proof. Lovely applies to what inspires emotion rather than intellectual appreciation: "They were lovely, your eyes" (George Seferis). What is pretty is beautiful in a delicate or graceful way: a pretty face; a pretty song; a pretty room. Handsome stresses poise and dignity of form and proportion: a very large, handsome paneled library. "She is very pretty, but not so extraordinarily handsome" (William Makepeace Thackeray). Comely suggests wholesome physical attractiveness: "Mrs. Hurd is a large woman with a big, comely, simple face" (Ernest Hemingway). Fair emphasizes freshness or purity: "In the highlands, in the country places,/Where the old plain men have rosy faces,/And the young fair maidens/Quiet eyes" (Robert Louis Stevenson). 4. Most importantly: BEAUTY LIES WITHIN THEY EYE OF THE BEHOLDER

Agree many ladies that are not yet to be found on a review or recomendation Board non the less.., If she is new.. or did not have one yet maybe she could have just said "Sorry i am new in town, in the business" what ever her situation may be... " no I dont have any yet.." is not just about having or not any recos.. some ladies dont even want any... but is about honesty... avoiding the question is not the answer! Is about being a trust worthy person... I know that if I have anyone that asks for any reviews... i ll give them gladly... One of the most important thing in this business is TRUST and u gain that by being honest! and it works both ways ladies to gent and gent to ladies...

My first thought... Hummm, why is common sense called common sense when it is not so common? lol Now, let me go set up an appointment with my gynecologist and when I see him, I'll try to play doctor with him and see how far I can take it...

She may be new and inexperienced or she has something to hide. Admittedly, it is an SP's pet peeve when she feels like she has to justify her rate over the phone to a stranger but an experienced, reputable SP will be glad to direct you to a site where there are reviews/recos if she is sure of herself and her business skills. When I was advertising on that site once in a while, I would actually try and bring some of these guys over to Cerb or get them to join because all of my info and pictures are here. I had my doubts but many of them didn't seem to know what I was talking about ( I'm sure many knew about Cerb and already members but it seemed like others didn't want to take the time to register to look at album profiles and what not). I took the extra step to give them some sort of reassurance that I wasn't a fly by night but those who booked in the end said it was the genuine conversation I had with them over the phone and that I took an extra few minutes without being pushy. Go with your gut and you did the right thing by asking for additional info. It's your hard earned money and you have the right to spend it wisely. :)

There are many reasons to do this and as long as the reasons are good for you and important to you, then they are good reasons and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. As was already said, attraction and beauty aren't just skin deep. Attitude, manners, sense of humor, enjoyment, openness, hygiene, a positive attitude etc. all play into making someone attractive to others. Don't sell yourself short based on what you think you see in the mirror. Most of us have a skewed perception of ourselves anyway. Most SP's will welcome you with open arms and treat you wonderfully as long as you follow their personal guidelines and the common ones of being respectful, clean and friendly. Nerves will be present but don't let that stop you from jumping on board and experiencing something wonderful. Browse ads and profiles and find someone who appeals to you then begin a conversation. Follow your intuition and enjoy!

I don't think you were wrong however, her not having recommendations and probably not being a member of a review board doesn't mean she is not a good provider. Maybe she hasn't heard of them or there are none where she is from. I agree with you, she was deffensive which was probably what caused you to decide not to see her but had she reacted different or if ever in a similar situation I would suggest to communicate a bit with the lady in order to get an impression on her and decide to book or not, not all ladies are active on boards same way us providers know not all gentlemen have a reference or are members in review boards.

As you said, any reputable SP's would direct you to reco's or input if there is any to be had. There are many threads on the business side where SP's discuss the importance of both client and SP making a good match which involves research. Personally it sounds like she thought you were questioning her rate not just making a statement about it. It was definitely a defensive reaction. I would assume perhaps a new SP and not one accustomed to the business. All the ladies I have read about here would (and do) provide links to their reco's and feedback consistently and some even have it on websites. They understand that sometimes to make a decision especially where money is concerned, you need to do your homework. My only suggestion would be if you run into this again, don't mention anything about the rate, instead ask for links to reco's or other information. Sometimes what you think and don't say works better to get you what you want with less hassle.

MsManda is another example of a SP who had her beginning on Halifax CL. It's the way it is, for every half a dozen WOT/WOM, you find a gem.

I certainly like how you formatted and never used the word "lost" in # 4 Directions. I am definitely a believer that a man is usually never lost but may from time-to-time be temporarily uncertain as to his exact postion.... Aviators as I am are vain when it comes to those things and admitting they may need glases (I finally did after 5 years of needing them).

Just thrown in for discussion, and my opinion only. If a touring lady is willing to commit to you to see you, (and that commitment requires an investment/expense on her part (airfare, hotel, meals, incidentals etc) ) show her the same commitment on your part. For example I cancelled last minute on a lady a few years back due to illness, but I paid her donation in full. Why, well why should she be out the expenses of touring, expenses she paid on the belief she would make a profit on the money spent on her expenses because a client who committed to seeing her cancelled at the last minute. Answer, she shouldn't be out any money Show the ladies you really want to see them. Maybe that means paying a deposit, maybe, as I have done, pay their donation in full if you cancel at the last minute. A rambling RG

Claire Heavens and PassionVitto are the new hot duo in O-town... what can be better than Passion in Heaven yay! Blonde and the brunnette! cant get any better! all thanks to Al from Quebec who brough us together! Thank you Al! It would have never happend if it was not for you!

Everyone has their own reasons for seeking the company of an SP. And that reason is the proper reason to see a professional companion, with the caveat that you are always a gentleman, and respect all of the lady's boundaries. Remember that SP's are professional companions, what is important to the lady is she is seeing a gentleman, good hygiene, pays in full etc. She would much rather see a gentleman who isn't good looking rather than see someone who looks like he should be on the cover of GQ, but has absolutely no respect for ladies. In short, your character counts a lot. That's coming from a guy who's overweight, bald,oops political correct term folliclly challenged, wears glasses and is in his 50's If your shy just tell the lady when you contact her so she knows. Also tell her it's your first time. BTW once you commit to an encounter, no matter how nervous you get, carry through with the encounter, don't back out. A few ramblings Good luck and have fun RG

I would say Katrine and Jessy are - by far - the best kissers I've been with. :bowdown:

Count me in! These lips were made for some serious DFK action. XXX

Celebrating one of my very fave anniversaries today. May 22, 1977 my buddy and I returned from work in Garland,Tx. and saw a note held down on the dining table by a beer bottle from our housemates. It said "thought you guys would want these". "These" were two front row, center tickets to see Led Zeppelin @ Tarrant County Convention Center in Fort Worth. The tickets were bought from a scalper for the astronomical price of---------$20 each, lol. Due to mass consumption of intoxicating substances, it's amazing that I even remember the show but I can, including the surprise appearance of Mick Ralphs for a dueling guitar thingy with Page to close the show. Just thought I'd share one of the fondest crank memories!

Thank you, everyone, for your contributions to this thread. That one should communicate and should not assume is of course good advice. In fact it was the point my questions were aimed at in the first place. I didn't, after all, ask "what does PSE mean?" My questions were what message SPs thought they were conveying if they said it, and what message hobbyists thought they were receiving if they heard it. My guess was that those were not always the same message: the discussion seems to confirm that.

Lol, I think that is cute hes telling you enough, you've been on this machine to long, time to pay attention to me. Sometimes our fur babies can be very demanding, just as we can be. But for all their quirks and annoying habits pets make the best friends:biggrin:

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I think service providers are the epitome of the entrepreneurial spirit, and without contradiction by their very work and other choices clearly state that sex and emotional connection are critical to the human experience. Whether a person is public about this career choice or chooses to keep it under wraps is very secondary to the fact that they acknowledge that both money and sex are critical to a person's well-being in this modern world. In short, it takes real balls to be this kind of true frontier entrepreneur. It's a spirit I find lacking in general "out there" in the far too pasteurized world, where someone goes off on a bizarre tangent every few moments. For example look at some of the dialogues we've all seen on Face Book. But here at CERB, and a few unrelated underground sites, there is a real sense of community. Both clients and workers are passionate about what they do. Boy does passion ever bring people together. Just wanted to put that out there and say thanks to everyone. Let's keep on going. Take care won it all! PatrickGC

Thank you everyone for the helpful and honest contributions on this thread. :) I must say that I have been very lucky with nearly all of my guests being clean and fresh. This thread actually made me realize something though that I have neglected. When gentlemen arrive at my incall location and opt to have a shower, if they are washing properly, they will have washed away any previously applied deodorant. Things can heat up pretty quick sometimes and it doesn't take long to get sweaty again. Thus, I have added unscented aerosol spray deodorant to the list of toiletries available for my guests in my incall latrine. Other things include three different choices of body wash including an unscented variety, regular bar soap, men's shampoo, individual bottles of Scope mouth wash, gum, and unscented lotion. Please feel free to use any and all of them when you visit! :) Thanks! :)

For myself, I don't pay attention to it at all, I know the individuals that are quite worthy of more then their status-points etc etc where others have ballooned just way off the charts. I think the only I remember reading was your power level, far right in the 3 sequences of numbers, I think I'm around 185-190 which is power level? So I give and spread my points to those that are new to the board when they contribute or if it is a MA/SP I will for their ad. Those that have been given a god status since inception of the point system was at a time where the system was not calibrated correctly it was actually getting out of control IMHO. Some of us actually lost our God status and now have the 10,000 points or more status, but seriously I think it is also trivial as well. It needs tweaking,it does need to be debated within Mod and council in my opinion. Perhaps a format like twitter "favourite" a post with nothing attached to it.

It's your roving reporter Cato coming to you from the newly-launched Tease at 5023 Bank St. The night featured a bikini contest with ten hot contestants vying for cash prizes. The crowd was enthusiastic, and cheered the contestants on as they performed their sexy moves on stage and their acrobatic exploits on the pole. Our own Jazy was crowned the winner over stiff competition, garnering the most enthusiastic and loudest applause. Cerbites may remember that Jazy was the original inspiration for the Best Bums on the Planet thread, and she was in outstanding form as she took top honours in the first Tease Sunday Night Special. Congratulations to Jazy and all the contestants for a rollicking fun night.

Over the past while I have noticed that on a number of occasions touring SP's have advertised a visit to St. John's on either CERB or EC but a few days prior to the visit date have decided to cancel. I have limited understanding of how touring SP's run their business so I am left to assume that they have not received a predetermined requisite number of firm pre-bookings to allow them to comfortably expect a profitable visit so they cancel in favor of "old faithful type locations" in other parts of country. I know that St. John's tends to be a little out of the way for touring and planning purposes so personally I am grateful any time a lady offers to put us on her schedule. In appreciation for the lady offering to visit I always choose to contact the lady (in her preferred way) soon after the announcement to welcome her and convey my desire to book an appointment with her. On several occasions in the past the SP's have not responded to my request for an appointment and ended up cancelling her visit. This leads me to believe that perhaps I'm the only one with the courtesy to try to pre-book ladies. So I'd like to get some insight into what SP's encounter in these situations and how we as clients could operate to ensure that ladies that announce visits actually end up coming here. Hopefully, by drawing attention to what ladies are expecting we might be able to encourage clients that book "last minute" to get a little more on the ball and avoid leaving Chuck disappointed. There are lots of NL clients just lurking here so please speak up!

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Hello darlings!! Come enjoy a relaxing massage with a sexy girl :) The experience will leave you speechless and wanting more!! Can't wait to have fun!! xxx Stacy Call 6135236199 or PM me :) available at the eastend CMJ until 9pm tonight! Wednesday 2-9pm Thursday 11-6 Friday Westend party!!! 11-11 Saturday 11-6

Remarkable, extraordinary and memorable, thank you!

Be still, my pounding heart! I would never have doubted your fantasticness in bed, but you cook? And do housework, too? There is a God in Heaven! And he or she has prodded you to nudge me to avoid stereotypes--mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. (Sorry about the foot rubs, though. I don't like my feet to be handled!)

Cheap Trick (based on the correct but smart ass reply of Roaming Guy because I love him so) Surrender http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th370QmFtk8

C103 is pump'n out Pink Floyd's the wall :)

Ashamed? No, I know what I do and don't feel that. I am recently open to some that live around me, not my family though However, a neighbor I think has figured out who I am online. Asking stupid questions like "you are 5'4" right"? Not a question someone would normally ask a friend. So, I'm thinking, great now I have an idiot who thinks he knows something about me. I've managed to deflect his questions as someone who is rambling while drunk. He pisses me off. When I am home, I am not Meaghan. I am me. I dress differently, act differently - I am me. I don't want people thinking they can spend time with my working self for free. I never see friends or aquantainces in this business. If they call me, I will tell them so. I would rather keep the friendship. However, if the friendship starts to intrude into my working self, I will sever the relationship. I still won't see them because they disrespected my boundaries. I am very blunt to those that overstep the boundaries. To the point of telling them I will deck them if they continue. This neighbor has not taken it a step further. However, if he has not figured it out yet, he will soon. He has shown me disrespect by asking the type of questions he has asked. His opinion of me does not matter to me. However, my guard is up on him. Ashamed? No, I am proud to be able to provide this service. Proud of the quality of the encounters I provide. Not everyone can do this. There are those that think they can, and quickly figure out they cannot. xoxo

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Knowing I made someone else laugh, smile or even brightening their day up!

Seeing someone totally enthralled by a live performance, be that music, artwork or dance and regardless of the venue. The truly swept off their feet from the energy and commitment of the artist. That "Wow" moment. PatrickGC

I like Emiafish. His positive contributions are one of the reasons CERB is the board it is RG

I felt the same way, hence my cerb name. That feeling of emptiness would just get worse and worse, eating everything inside. You are a stronger man than me, to go so long with that emptiness inside you. A combination of loss after loss and that emptiness inside building up left me severely depressed and suicidal. With professional help I learn to get over the grief and came to realize that the emptiness was a lack of intimacy. Companion is the right word cause to be honest sex had nothing to do with it. Guys may think I'm insane but I've had wild threesomes and nothing felt the same. Only real relief is when it's intimate and meaningful to me, did it ever help. To confess I've been on dates just to be held and to connect. For that I used to be a shame, but not anymore, why should I be ashamed for something I need to live? So your not alone feeling empty, and stay strong there is nothing worse than to watch someone die slowly, just cherish every moment like it may be their last.

I'm not ashamed of the choices I've made or how I live my life, including seeing escorts. I love the company of women and I've met many wonderful, strong and self determined women in this industry who I would be proud to call friends. Shame, guilt or self loathing would involve behaving inconsistently with my sense of identity. You can only do that for so long without developing unhealthy emotional and pyschological problems. Having said that like most people here, I keep this choice private for all the reason cited. It would be hypocritical to say that I would be opposed to any of the women in my personal life becoming involved in the sex industry. At the same time I'm also not naive and I realize that participation in this industry involves unique physical and emotional health risks as well as safety risks. The sex industry is one of the few jobs you can enter with no training at all. I don't mean sex technique either, but rather basic health and safety training and how to handle "difficult customers". That has to be a concern to anyone who cares for those close to them because there are unique and serious risks in this industry. While the CERB community is a positive one in which men and women generally view each other as equals and women are treated respectfully, this is not representative of the industry as a whole. I would want anyone close to me to understand the range of conditions and clients in the industry and the associated risks. Having said that if they were considering joining the military or becoming a coal miner I would want them to consider the risks unique to those jobs as well! In general my experience is that most men are "good men". That observation seems to be confirmed by the comments of most of the women on this Board about their clients. I'm happy to hear that. However I've seen what men are capable of when sex is combined with inequitable authority, intimidation, physical strength and vulnerability. I've intervened to stop a rape in progress, fired men for sexual harassment and sexual assault in the workplace and been a juror in a trial involving the rape and physical assault of a sex worker. In addition, looking at some of the comments on other industry boards it's clear that many customers are mysoginists. Men like this will be clients or potential clients and that has to concern anyone who cares for the women in their lives. Hell, they could be friends, lovers or husbands and that concerns me too! As much as most of society sees the treatment of sex workers and women in general as separate issues, I see them as identical. The bottom line is that I would not "tell" anyone how to live their life. The more mature a person is the more confidence I have to have in their decisions. I would however encourage them to speak to women who have managed to be safe, healthy and successful in the industry. There's a limit to how much useful advice I could provide from the client side. What I can give is unconditional love and support and if anything more care and attention if this is their choice.

The song heard by millions around the world every Saturday and Sunday...the theme song for the English Premier League! Kasabian - Fire

Just my personal advice is to always ask the person you are thinking of spending time with for their own definition. Some times the person you you meet up with isn't the person who you have been pre-communicating with. Sometimes that information isn't the same between the provider and agency. I find asking ahead of time helps prevent awkward times during the encounter that would kill the whole moment. As helpful as definitions are... everyone has their own, either Provider or Client.

I saw her a month ago and she is very good at what she does. Excellent service. She provides DFK, BBBJ, Greek pictures are accurate.

Exactly what is being talked about

Just got the new Depeche Mode. Huge fan since their inception. (Am I showing my age? lol) The song 'Slow' is definitely going on my session playlist. Bluesy and oh so sexy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqwtanA2R4A