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I'm 'out' about being an escort in my personal life. When I meet new people, I test the waters before I tell them but I don't hesitate overly long. The issue I often face when meeting new people is something along the following. They say, "it's alright that you're an escort, but... your clients... aren't they kind of gross? Isn't it nasty to have to do things you don't want to do with people you aren't attracted to, or who are dirty?" I'm always really amazed that people say those sorts of things. I adore my clients, and I'm lucky to have had very positive experiences. They ask me lots of mean questions (i.e. about hygiene, weight, appearance, STIs, etc) as if this were a reason to stigmatize, or dislike, not my job as an escort, but rather the clients that seek my services... Ewwww seems to be their reaction. So I've done a few things to 'humanize' clients in the minds of the people I meet. I usually say, "Do you like your dad, brother, uncle, cousin?" "Well, of course", they say. "He's probably my most typical client", I respond. They are shocked. I say other things too, of course, but that's usually where I start... My question is for the clients on the board, if you could say anything to the people I talk to, what would you want to say about yourself? While I'm really good at defending my clients in these situations, I'm curious to see what other people would say if they could be open about their involvement on CERB.

"Civilians" don't seem to grasp the obvious -- an SP does not have to accept all callers and can refuse to see anyone for any reason, and do only the things you want to do (i.e., YMMV). Many other professions don't have that flexibility.

OOI, is this girls? Guys? Both? Just curious. I think something that most folks don't appreciate - or perhaps just don't want to think about - is how common the exchange of a sexual service for some other consideration actually is. How many guys have bought drinks or dinner for someone in the hope (or possibly even expectation) that she'd give us something in exchange later on? Pretty much everyone, right? Maybe we got lucky and considered it a worthwhile investment; maybe we didn't and felt rather bitter about the money we wasted on doing shots with that goddamn prick-tease. Ultimately, it doesn't matter: it's the same as the difference between seeing a good SP and getting caught by B&S. Or, if you want to protest that no money actually changed hands... most of us guys have been to a strip club on occasion, as part of a bachelor party if nothing else. Most of us have had at least one lapdance, which was presumably paid for by someone. I'll concede that not everyone necessarily enjoys lapdances (I have a couple of friends who, I'm genuinely sure, don't find them much fun at all)... but nevertheless: it's a sexual experience, it's paid for with cash, and most guys have been there and done that. But that's not the same as seeing an escort? Well, maybe not, but that's a difference of degree, not of kind. After all, when you started learning to drive you didn't go on the highway on day one, did you? No, thought not. I'll concede that more of us get to driving on the highway than get to seeing escorts... but the difference in numbers is probably less than many imagine, and very hard to measure in any case. So, if we're going to destigmatize clients, I think the most important thing is to realize that these clients are... pretty much everyone, really, whether they think of themselves that way or not. I don't mean "just normal guys"; I'm going further than that, and saying "almost everyone". If there's one thing I'd like to get across to the world at large it'd be the level of self-awareness required to see what you and all your friends and family are probably doing (or at least, have done in the past) and how that fits onto the same sliding scale, rather than being anything very different.

I can't speak for others, I can tell you I'm the nice guy who cares a lot for others. The guy that worked hard and long hours and saved his money to own a house and car. The loving husband to a wife he will always love. The man who had a dream of having a family. To give my kids what I never had to love and support them. To be called dad, and to be the complete opposite of my mother. I was an "ordinary guy" like most, until tragedy struck. My dreams began to fade losing the chance at become a father, then sickness struck my wife and another chance at becoming a father was forced to abort due to degrading and debilitating health of my wife. As my wife intimacy and love for me faded my dreams shattered. Along with my will and faith to live. In my darkest hour I planned my final hours and being with a woman one last time was part of it. It saved my life, the feeling of being loved stopped my dark thought, calmed me down and made me capable of thinking clearly enough to realize my need, to help me change. So your not providing some gross guy with sex, your saving a broken man life, helping him get back on his feet emotionally and mentally. I really don't care much about what society thinks about me I learned that lesson long ago. According to society and even statistics I should of followed a different path. Coming from an abusive childhood I should of been a hard drug user with a criminal record a mile long. No I chose to be different I stayed away from the path, I never use drugs and I have a clean record. I love to prove people who say I'm something that I'm not, wrong. Society can kiss my ass just like my mom who said I was stupid. Well I did graduate and go on to college. Perhaps were not ordinary people after all were extraordinary people. We don't have to waste time and energy to try and pickup some random girl. We don't have to lie to them and say we will call them. We are honest about it, yes it may be a transaction but its one that can end whenever I want without hurting anyone. We don't have to pretend we're something we're not just to "get laid". If that not being a gentleman I don't know what is. I think bottom line we are people all unique in our own way. We just do what we do to satisfy a need, desire or fantasy. We all have our reasons and that what make us human. So Nat you can tell them that we are human being and nothing less. Just like them. Thanks for standing up for us!

It's a good point -- but I think that in every case the high-profile figure is cheapened and tarnished by the association. He drops a couple of rungs down the ladder. It's just that his other obvious assets of money or power are strong enough to keep him pretty high despite this. In essence, "he's rich but suffers from a sad compulsion." More generally, and not really directed at your specific post: So why are men stigmatized in the first place when found out to be sex work clients? It's because of that central role sex has in the historical, conservative underpinnings of our culture: it's one of the primary currencies for measuring people's level of success. - Men who are accomplished are "supposed to" have easy access to sex being offered from adoring women who respond to his success and power. If he doesn't have that, then he must not be successful. And if he's paying for it, he must not have any other access to it -- there's something wrong with him. - Women are expected to hold their sex in reserve as precious currency to secure marriage. If she's spending it too freely, she's cheapened; and worse, if she's selling it, she must be desperate, like pawning irreplaceable heirlooms. These ideas look silly spelled out like that, but they really do hold powerful, often unspoken yet deeply held authority in our sexually conflicted culture. Plus, what exposure do most people have to the industry? Only the media's portrayal, which condemns it with one hand (sex! exploitation! desperation!) at the same time it uses the sexual allure to draws viewers with its titillating side ("Look at those fishnet stockings! Tsk tsk. ...mmmm..."). It's hard to blame people who have nothing else to go on. I think the thing I'd say to try to address the stigma is EXACTLY what Nathalie did so wisely in her first post: "these are the very same guys you know in your own life, and there's nothing wrong with them. It's not the clients (or SPs) that are faulty; it's your own ideas about sex and sex work."

Thanks for starting this thread, Nat. In answer to your question, basically i tell people, when the opportunity arises, is basically this, in one way, shape or form:

Predominantly women have reacted this way when I've mentioned I'm an escort. They're fine with my choice to be an escort, but wonder how I manage to have sex with people I find 'repulsive'. Younger men I've spoken to have reacted similarly, but the older gentlemen I've spoken to (in a general sense) haven't reacted the same way at all. My theory is perhaps they've visited an establishment, MA, or SP already, and/or have considered it sometime along the way. Of course, this is simply based on my personal experiences. From what I've read so far, most people would like to me to continue mentioning that my clients are normal folk with a broad range of motivations for visiting me. Do you think it's effective for me to invoke the figure of the brother, uncle, cousin, father when talking to these people? It shocks them, but I think it gets the message across...

Great post!! I am not "out". But I have told a few people. Thankfully they are open-minded enough to understand that both sides of the coin have normal everyday people, and do not apply the stigma. Some have showed incredible surprise. But I have had to educate. I have been very lucky in that sense. However, the general misconception can only be eradicated by more education of the general public. One of which we are all a part of. That, in and of itself, is difficult without outing yourself. But, I think as time goes on, our culture will change its general attitude, to a point. There will always be a seedy side to this business simply because it is a demographic. Demographics always have variables, but it is paramount to understand that those variables mostly include everyday people leading everyday lives. Not the reverse. The Gents that choose to share their lives with me, are for the most part, all normal everyday people. Some of my clients are high profile, so there can be a difference; but the general Gent is just that. The same goes with most SP's. If you saw me on the street you would never guess my little secret. I am the woman next door, I love my family, am active in my community, care about my neighbours and have many friends. I in turn extrapolate that to Hobbiests. It is so unfortunate that our culture doesn't see things that way. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground of opinion yet in the civilian world. To be honest I doubt there ever will be total acceptance. We place too much emphasis on sex in our society. Too much rides on who's doing who, how they're doing it and for what reasons. Until that ends there will always be a stigma. It's unfortunate, but true and wont change. So until then, humanizing the business is something we can all do, to a certain extent. Some more than others. I subscribe to SexBrainsMoney and I too applaud Mistert for being so forthcoming. Not everyone can do these types of interviews but the more that are out there, the more it helps. The more advocates that speak out, both SP and Hobbiest, the more mundane it will become. But sadly, not soon enough.

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A more efficient method is to leave a message with appropriate times to call back or a DO NOT CALL AFTER time. Not leaving a message leaves a question mark. Providers often get ripped online for not returning calls so they may assume you need a call back. Just leave a detailed message about what is acceptable in your particular case and it saves everyone in the end... cat

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And me, if I told people I know that I see professional companions, they would look at me shocked, because I don't fit the stigmatized stereotype of a client. And if I disclosed this part of my life, they would be even further surprised when they knew how highly I respect the ladies I see and how much the connection made and their companionship means to me. For me this lifestyle bears very little in common with civilian society's version of it. If civilian society knew the reality about this lifestyle, they would see that it is a mutually beneficial lifestyle, where ladies and gentlemen are opposite sides of the same coin RG

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Great topic Nat, as usual very thoughtful, thanks for helping make this corner of the internet one of a kind :) One aspect that is not talked about much here (excluding past references to superb documentaries such as The Sessions and Scarlet Road) is the astonishing therapeutic, learning and growing opportunities afforded by this community. With the help of many CERB ladies (and one in particular that will recognize herself :) ) I was able to transform myself from an extremely shy, ignorant, unskilled lover to a *badass* lover (ok, ok, maybe I wish that and I am simply a not too bad lover lol!). I have learned so much, about women, about myself, and I have gained confidence beyond my wildest dreams. I strive to share the best of myself in return. I still have much learning to do, but it is now *exciting* and *fun*, not stressful! This transformation would never have been possible if not for the ladies that chose this occupation, sharing their joy and vicissitudes, sensuality, patience, wisdom and support, with open hearts. I feel privileged. Maybe I am idealistic, but this really should be celebrated! So Nat, to answer your question, maybe you can say that some clients (at least one!), are thirsting to learn and improve themselves, as men, as friends to women, as lovers, and to discover women's mesmerizing erotic universe.

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Terrific thread, Nathalie! I would just really want people to know the respect I have for the ladies I have the opportunity to meet. I could handle assumptions that I must be a loser. Or gross. Could only possibly get sexy by paying for it. Addicted to boobs (okay, that last one may have some truth). But I find the stereotype that I'm happily exploiting women who must surely be victimized deeply troubling and insulting.

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I know you asked for client input but I wanted to comment here. I think the big thing that should be communicated is that our guests are just like anyone else. Everyone has wants and needs, some that get met and some that don't. Our clients are just more pro-active in having their needs met in a safe and enjoyable way that harms no one. Everyone needs human touch and companionship yet sometimes life gets in the way of being able to have committed and fulfilling relationships. As men and women, we too often deny ourselves basic needs for no apparent reason except that we "should". Our clients could be, and normally are, anyone of any walk of life, any color, race and even religion. No different from friends, family, co-workers, neighbors or favorite barrista. It's not just about sex, it's about human connection and companionship, touch, focusing on ones self for a moment in time. Something everyone wants at one time or another.

Yes, I face this almost daily too:( My statement is this.... I have never been treated with the amount respect and caring in my "real" life as I experience with my clients! My clients genuinely care for me, respect me and want to see me happy and safe. They open the door for me, they support me, make me laugh and blush. They wish me happy birthday, Merry Christmas and Happy Thanksgiving! I have dated, and those men don't even bother with any of that! As for the "gross" client, you have one chance to meet me. If you do not meet my standards, then you either show up next time meeting my standards, or you will get bare min service and not return. But truthfully, this hardly ever happens. I mean gross, as in not cleaned, showered, etc....I do not expect everyone to be a hunk, haahha...this is about a service designed to make men feel good about themselves, feeling cared for, looked after. So as long as they leave happy and confident, then so am I! I take pride in what I do, and put every effort into providing a service that accomplishes all that. There has been one or a few, that I had to have "a talk with" about hygiene. They seemed to have listened to me, as they do arrive ready for a date. But if you are ever rude or mean, then you are leaving ASAP. People just see us a s victims, or whatever....But after you chat with us, you see we are much more in control and have more respect then you would think. I AM NOT A VICTIM! I AM SELF EMPLOYED, PROVIDING A MUCH NEEDED SERVICE. AND THIS MAKES ME HAPPY. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT! Best wishes, xoxoxo, Sophia OOOPSY, JUST NOTICED. This is a question for the clients hahhaha

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Nope . Don't agree. Nationality yes !!! I agree doesn't matter!!! . When nationality seems to be changing day to day be wary IMO Don't go visit on "looks and looks alone"..... more importantly

"spanish" = native "hawaiian" = native "Mixed Mexican and French" = native Don't get me wrong, I'm not making a racial slam, these are taken from past ads posted on bp.. and first hand experience.. I rather appreciate the sp's that use "aboriginal beauty", etc. in their ads instead of trying to hide their heritage under another name.. Happy pooning!

Huh. I don't have objective data either, but I feel pretty certain that if I told just about anyone I know that I'm a happy, periodic sex work client, I'd meet stunned gasps, lose several friends, and co-workers would look at me askance. BONUS: I just got to use "askance" in a sentence!

On BP there is a car wash being advertised, lol...when I did search had 23 results. Mostly from Europe, I highly doubt these are the ladies you would be meeting!

You said (copied/pasted) " I always thought that the general consensus was that all men were dogs and would do what ever they needed to to get laid" Men see professional companions not just for sex, but also for the emotional connection, escape, companionship, memories and even friendships made Reducing the transaction by saying the general consensus was that all men were dogs and would do what ever they needed to get laid (your words) feeds right into the societal stigma that seeing professional companions is about sex and nothing else. I know I value and respect the ladies I see, and I'm sure most gentlemen do. Does that make us dogs? I know I resent being labeled as such, I'm sure other gentlemen do to. And it's that labeling that leads to stigmatizing RG

I'm not so sure that clients are that stigmatized. With all the high profile politicians, athletes and entertainers being caught with prostitutes I always thought that the general consensus was that all men were dogs and would do what ever they needed to to get laid.

A visit to the clinic is not just suggested to get information. Info you can get from reliable online sources. What you are going for is to get tested, a complete and full workup, not just HIV. :) When you see providers, you want to know your status already. When you see providers, you want to make sure that you aren't bringing any unwelcome guests with you, in the case that this is an sp that does offer higher risk activity, you want to be sure that you are not one of the guys increasing her risk factor even higher. it is also a good idea, in the case you have a scare, you won't automatically blame the first sp you see, when in fact you may have had something for the past 10 years. A lot of sexually active teenagers contract something, and a lot of them either don't know or don't get tested or think it has gone away when the symtoms subside. They carry that with them into the population mentioned above, the promisicuous non-prostitute population who are running around infecting numerous people, some of whom then become sps or clients of sps.

You aren't wrong, he decided to spread his thoughts on both the General Discussion Area All Of Canada Forum and this forum New To This Things You Should Know You can find all responses here http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=153946 RG

I like the Crown Plaza, as it is downtown, easy to stepout for lunch etc. Also a pool and small pub on location. Also many places for clients to park and hide their car. Delta is very nice, and has a 24 hour restaurant right beside it. But I find boring spot, as it is beside the downtown. So cabs will be longer wait etc... CABS in freddy are S..L...O...W so leave yourself plenty of time for wait time. Good luck!! Best wishes, Sophia:) ( yes...a different Sophia lol)

I believe most of us agree that each lady regardless of age brings her own unique style to the table. I have been fortunate to work with ladies from their 20's to 40's. Each lady I have had the opportunity to work with I had tons of fun with. So my stand ( of course) is all ladies are grand but if you have a preference go for it. This life is short so everyone deserves their preference. Please don't compare us, hey I am mature but you are going to have fun with me!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

I try to ensure the person giving the massage is properly "rewarded" for the time and effort they put in to the experience....

I also don't see the point or the need. I understand the reason for the ladies only section. But beyond that I agree with RG that this is a community, and segregating our interactions into different sections would be undesirable. Speaking personally, there is nothing I would post on this board that I wouldn't want everyone in the community to read. If there was, I simply wouldn't post it. If one does feel the need to reach out to people on a more private basis, there is the pm system. Porthos

It hinges, crucially, on the exact nature of these things that happened or didn't happen, and how reasonable it is to expect sexual services to be dispensed for cash like pushing buttons on a vending machine. Nobody here is defending the right of anyone to commit outright fraud -- arranging for a "boyfriend" to storm into the room and chase a client away, or to smack someone over the head with a lead pipe and steal his wallet. If that kind of stuff happens, then YES the client should have recourse. And you CAN go to the police and pursue the usual legal remedies. Instead, we're talking about something else: what specific acts took place during a session, and how/how often/how well as perceived by the client, and the discretion the SP has in the delivery of something agreed upon in advance. We're talking about the nature of ANY agreement for sexual services, and the ethics of considering such agreements to be binding (upon threat of withholding or reclaiming the fee). This is why I balk at the term "contract" to do X, Y, and Z, and instead would go only as far as "general, nonbinding agreement" to go there only provided she remains willing when the time comes. Regardless of the discussion up front, the fee, in full, buys only the SP's preparation, her time for the session, the setting she provides (for an incall), the personal engagement during that time, and the strong probability of some intimate play -- but never its guarantee. If you thought the money was buying you a list of acts, and everything else just came free, then you've misunderstood the transaction from the very beginning. It's the attempt to push the opposite idea: "no, I've paid, now you MUST do X! DO IT! Or give me my money back!" that I find unsettling and has that disturbing vibe mentioned earlier. 'Cause it's about exerting power over someone else regarding intimate acts -- and you just don't get to do that, not even as a sex work client. Nobody's money buys them that right.

The interesting part of this is how the OP landed with an enforcer? If you try to bow out of the appointment and leaving her with some kind of compensation - there shouldn't be any 3rd person in the room to intervene. If the lady took offense to this and had her bodyguard/enforcer involved - well it sure does look like a bait and switch to me. I don't think CERB policy is at 100% protecting the lady or not reviewing them. There is section in each city for dangerous encounter. When you are not sure - PM the "mod" ask for his take and if you should post it or not - cause trust me if there is a 3rd person intervention during an encounter while you are not being offensive/abusive and just trying to bow out graciously - I classify this is as dangerous; also bait and switch.

First and foremost, YMMV is a factor in all encounters. And what is agreed to in a email or a PM is what she offers in her encounters and may be willing to do. Sometimes YMMV is spelled out in a lady's website, but sometimes it is implied. But most experienced in this lifestyle understand that an encounter with a lady, underlying all menu options she provides, is a YMMV factor. Yes, those menu options are services she provides. But not all the time and not to everyone. Example. DFK might be offered. But if you show up having bad breath, consider yourself lucky to even get a peck on the cheek. And no, she didn't break any promises IMHO. Or she might allow digits, but if you show up looking like you changed oil on your car, don't expect digits, and again, IMHO, she didn't break any promises Be realistic in your expectations too. A lady may offer MSOG. Me for example, at 52, one SOG I'm happy. But if I request MSOG and only get one SOG should I get a discount, no. A lady may have a long list of menu items offered but that doesn't mean each and every item can physically be done in one encounter And finally there is one other thing. You are not paying for services. You are paying for a lady's time. What happens during that time together is between two consenting adults. So understanding that, and the YMMV factor, the best option is to be a gentleman (including paying in full, good hygiene, showing up on time) and you'll find YMMV will have a positive meaning for you. And what happens between you two consenting adults will be something positive and memorable A rambling from a gentleman for who YMMV has been a positive term and has had positive and memorable encounters RG

There are some SPs who will promise anything to get you in the door and get your money in hand. But there are some things an SP might have a hard time delivering on after promising, sight unseen. DFK is one. I love to kiss, but DFK, to some people, seems to mean something I'd be more likely to describe as tonsil tasting or attempting to discern what I had for breakfast. Think of it yourself. You love DFK, but when you meet, you discover that your SP, while being clean and not having bad breath, simply doesn't have a taste or a style of kissing that works for you. People don't kiss to satisfy terms of a contract, but to explore, arouse and be intimate with another person. That's why I never feel comfortable being put on the spot to agree to such terms, sight unseen. I've always been skittish, and more quick to write someone off than to push for a sale (and I've only gotten worse with age, I know), but that's something to consider when communicating with an SP beforehand: some are working hard at selling, and others are working hard at identifying who will be a good match. I suspect you'll get your best service from the latter, if she chooses you. But too, I suspect that, like me, such SPs will be put off by someone who wants them to commit to too much, sight unseen. I recommend you only dive into "hammering out the details" of a contract if it's absolutely essential to you. And make it clear that you will not pay if it doesnt happen. But don't be surprised if many SPs wish you well and send you on your way.

Mighty Pen's words speak truth. There are times a provider hasn't prepared for the appointment by keeping track of requests. That would require keeping records and that is something quite discouraged by hobbyists. I don't provide a menu or promise a single service when I book my appointments for this reason. If a guest has a check list of activities that must take place during the playdate, I'm not the provider for him and I'm clear about this upfront. If a guest let's me run the session the way my intuition tells me he will leave smiling and completely satisfied. Walk thru my door with specific services demanded and you will be shown the door but I don't keep the envelop. I think it's dirty money at that point and brings no good to my life from a karmic level. A good provider trusts her instincts and if her spidey sense is tingling, the agreed upon services are at her discretion. She needs to be honest about why she won't provide the agreed upon services if she wants to make the appointment work. Won't kiss? Probably a hygiene issue at hand. No shower? She has probably booked appointments after you that weren't on the books when you set up your appointment and won't have time to redo her hair after you leave; or she feels it's a bad judgement call from a safety perspective. There are a 100 reasons the menu will change. Has the contract been broken? Yes. Is she required to give you a refund of some sort? No but if she's smart she will make it right. It's good business to be honest and keep clients happy. This business is only viable if you can build repeat business and violating the agreement doesn't accomplish that... cat

I say "no thank you" to many potential appointments. If I dont enjoy the way the email is written such as lack of introduction, lack of effort ,etc. also if someone has an issue with my request for phone number, reference etc. I will decline and I dont take same day appointments or telephone bookings. I trust my instincts and if someone sounds off or iffy to me I simply say "take care and good bye". I haven't had a no show this year, maybe one in 2012. It works

Not to mention a serious lack of agencies or spas in Saint John. Or ones who advertise on Cerb, at least.

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