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As an SP, I offer an "experience" not to be a "cum bucket" for someone's release for lack of better words. No thanks. If I'm going to be just a release for somone, they are going to be paying for it. I'm not a machine and a 15 min appt is not worth it to me since it takes the same amount of time to set up and get ready. Then there is the aspect of those trying to get more time for free and then there is the volume where how many clients are coming and going in a day. I am a very discrete person and would never allow this to happen when I can make more on a single appt alone. I'm not an avid clock watcher but when someone texts me with a laundry lists of specific acts they want for $60 for 15 mins or expect what they would get in a 30 or 60 min appt, do yourself a favor a favor and go to a street corner. I take time and pride in what I do and myself and my surroundings reflect that as well. I have no interest in doing these types of appts and contrary to men who are fans of 15 min service, you get what you pay for. In a fantasy world, if I did one of these 15 mins appts, it would be the bare minimum. Why should I go out of my way when someone is attempting to negotiate my rates? Why should I go the extra mile? I had someone text me once and said they only needed 5 mins of my time for $20. DELETE! If you're looking for a 15 min session then more power to you but don't expect the world for $60. Last year a 15 min appt was $100. Then it went to $80 and now guys are demanding $60. The reason this is happening because women let them. They get into this business with no training from an agency. They have a cell phone, put up a BP ad and call themselves an escort. Then some men bully them into giving them service for $60 -$80 and often times let manipulate them into staying overtime for the same rate. Some of these women don't know any better. The real sense of having an experience with an escort is long forgotten such as when I first started as an SP. That whole aspect has been thrown out the window and it's all about how a man can get off in the shortest amount of time with the lowest amount of cash to offer. Thankfully there are men out there who appreciate SPs and the time together.

Im going to try to bring the ball back around here. While everybody has a "type" that may make them tingle; not all is based on looks. Obviously. I learned a long time ago that everybody has something to bring to the table that is sexy and sensual. Be it personality, or a wonderful smile or respect, handsome hands, whatever. Example...when I was in my 20's I thought David Lee Roth was da bomb; until he opened his mouth in an interview. Any sexy in him went right out the window. That taught me a lot in judging what I personally find attractive in a person. I am a Nudist at heart, and have belonged to a club long before there were many. When you have been around as many naked people as I have, you learn pretty quick not to buy into the poster people. They are not real. Airbrushed, coiffed, make up, graphic manipulation, all add up to what you see. Yes some people are generally more physically attractive that others; but that does not make others non attractive. Perhaps I have become a realist where the human body is concerned. In my opinion everyone has something about them that one can find "sexy" or "attractive". To me it's also a package deal. The whole enchilada describes who a person is rather than looks. When one is young, people tend to buy into the poster people. But maturity and real life usually soon dispel that. I was considered cute at that age and was pretty popular. Cute usually doesn't last beyond 30 imo. Age and illness has changed my looks, but I am no less comfortable in my skin now than then. And how I view peoples sensuality abruptly changed with the David Lee Roth experience. I also belong to an historical group. Something that hit me very profoundly one day was a bigger woman saying why she loved dressing up and being in this club. She said it made her feel pretty. That stunned me as I always thought she was anyway. But her perception of her own self was rather skewed in that she still thought of herself as unsexy and unattractive when not wearing the pretty clothes. How does one tell that woman that you are beautiful, clothing or not? You can't. That is their own journey. I am in complete agreement here with Nathalie. There is always something. And it doesn't take long to figure it out. Intimacy is arousing, being treated well is arousing, men who actually care for me as a person is arousing. Those are the men that I personally want to come back. Because it is, to some of us, more than just sex.

Just wanted to see what hobbyiest and SP's think of 15 minute sessions. There must be a need as I see more SP's offering it. But for me short session is 45 minutes. I like one hr sessions. I've done only 1 30 minute session, but found it too short to have fun and get to know someone. In 15 minutes, I assume the clock starts when the door open. That's not enough time to take your clothes off, take a shower and chat a bit. I mean, it must be a real quicky to be in and out of so fast? I guess for some guy's it's all they need to get off quick. But where's the fun in all this. I like to get to know the woman and spend time kissing and chatting first. What's your opinion and experiences with the 15 minutes session? Just interested in peoples opinions from both sides of the fence. Hope to hear some interesting discussions.

It does seem to cheapen the whole thing. For myself, i don't see the point of offering anyone a rate option for this. If someone is in a big rush or finds they don't take more than 14 minutes i don't see why they can't just take the time they want to take, and compensate the sp for the half hour, because that is the time she is providing. That is also what it is costing her to give a lower rate for a 15 minute time session, she is giving up the chance of a half hour or hour appointment for very little return. Let's be realistic, no sp offering 15 minute sessions should expect that client to be in her place more than 16 minutes door to door otherwise, why isn't he paying for a half hour?. And how can anyone reasonably expect the sp to not watch the clock, to ensure he is not taking advantage of this option, in order to stay longer but pay for less. It seems like a very fine line.

I am so sad right now. My big boy Vinny is in unexpected surgery right now after a trip to the emergency vet clinic for something that I thought wasn't going to be a big deal. He's pretty tough and resilient, so I have a lot of hope that he will be alright, but it still sucks. He's the friendliest cat I've ever met in my whole life, and a pile of playful fluffy cuddly sucky awesomeness. My animals are like my children, so when they are sick or sad, I feel it too. :( Here's him cuddling with Milo: And here he is playing it cool after he got stuck in a pair of my underwear while playing in the laundry: And the infamous "Bros" photo: Please send hugs our way for Vinny's successful surgery and speedy recovery. :)

I've offered them on two occasions. 1) When I started to be an SP, I was living with roomates and had a really limited windows to offer incall so 15 minutes was better than a 4 hours session 2) When I had two regular that were clock wise, to see me two or three time a week for an in-out BJ during their lunch break. When I was in Ottawa, I used to live really close to gov building office My own personal opinion? I don'T like them. That's when I felt "use" as a whore, prostitute so to say and not as a human being , someone with feelings that may like to also receive a little of attention, be it a caress, kiss, slow lick I don't offer them anymore and will more likely soon remove the 30 minutes appointments.

Hey everyone; This is something of a rant & I'm sorry if I offend anyone. I don't intend to offend anyone, but I think there are a few things that need to be said. I know I don't post much but I've been around the SC scene for a long while. I, among others, have made allusions to a few trends that we have seen in the clubs over the last few years. First, dancers seem to have forgotten about the art of dancing. All too often I see a gorgeous woman get up on stage for a song and it's an energetic, fast paced tune that we all can get into. The lady dances this slow, almost bored, barely teasing show. For me if a dancer isn't interested in moving to a particular song it's going to show. I know of a bar or two that have set lists of songs the girls can pick from, please stop this practice so the ladies have more say. Ladies, pick songs you can move to. Lately it's hard to find a lady who uses the stage for being showy and doing tricks. Use the music and your ability to catch our attention. Secondly, cell phones. These great communication tools are wonderful companions and great in keeping in touch with friends, family, and clients. All too often though I see dancers staring at their phones. I for one, will not interrupt you on your phone. The ladies who catch my attention are the ladies who show some interest, energy, and aren't the ones who show up to talk to me for 30 seconds before trying to get me to take them to the CR. Put the phone away, talk to guys, and be friendly. We'll more than likely respond favourably. Slammer P.S. I've been sitting in a club typing this for about 20 minutes on my phone... I'm putting it away now and I'll reply when a dancer comes to speak to me. Posted via Mobile Device

I will never understand why people start internet death hoaxes. Can you imagine waking up one day and seeing your own name all over the internet as someone who has just died, while you're actually sitting there alive and well? The worst thing about this is, it causes people to question whether a report of a death is true or not. Right now I'm reading reports that Lou Reed is in fact alive and well, and his death reported was a hoax. But I think that hoax... is a hoax, as there are more reports confirming the death. It's awful because people should just be able to mourn the loss of an amazing artist, rather than have to search through articles to see if someone is actually dead or not. I'll never understand the thought process behind these things!

my personal PoV: There is an "agreement" of sorts made between client/SP ; time for money. What happens during that time is not part of any "agreement". If a client asks if specific services are offered, that does not suddenly turn said agreement into a contract forcing the SP to provide this service. As previously stated, this is "rapey" because the client can only want 2 possible outcomes: money back or forcing the SP to provide mentioned service. Both of which seem ridiculous to me. Not to mention that if I contact LE and tell them you forced me into any type of sexual act, they wouldn't ask me if said act was implied beforehand or not, they would only be concerned with the fact that I said no DURING the encounter. Example: Client: Do you allow digits? SP: YES. During the encounter, things did not naturally flow to the direction of digit-usage. Have I breached our agreement? NO. He still got the TIME he paid for. He will not force me to allow digits after his time is finished, nor would I be willing to give him back a single dime. And then we come to the disgruntled client who threatens to write a bad rieview on another site. I would not give in to this form of blackmail, my dignity is worth much more to me than my online reputation. Hobbyists need to understand that it IS time they pay for, the only scenarios when they should feel ripped off is when the encounter is cut short by an SP (or of course any B&S stuff, obvious scams etc.). Anything that does or doesn't happen in that time is of little importance when it comes to "terms of an agreement". And what do you do when time is cut short? Don't see her again. End of story. The amount of money you would spend on legal representation in court should exceed that which you spent on the encounter itself so even discussing seeking legal action in this situation is ludicrous. I personally do offer specific acts an extra cost, ie: Greek or CIM. If a customer pays up front for greek, and during the encounter we find out it isn't going to work today, I do give him back the tip that was provided for the greek option. But am I going to give him a discount on the hourly rate because we didn't try the doggie position? pardon my French, but, HELL NO! The hourly rate is what it is, TIME. My rate is not $200 for X,Y & Z services, it's $200 FOR AN HOUR, and this hour holds the possibility of X, Y & Z. (In my personal case, you just have an option to "upgrade" services allowed, and these are refundable since this cost is for an act, I don't think client should pay if THESE SPECIFIC ACTS that were attempting to be "purchased" were not provided) And as for the gentleman who decides not to pay at the end (I personally do not get into this situation myself), I would gladly introduce you to my putter, ask Tiger Woods how that feels and then re-think your point of view. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

When a Gent asks, "why an old/fat/whatever like me?"; I stare them in the eyes and state the obvious. As I said earlier, it's not too difficult to find something that is very charming and alluring with everyone. I will say something like, "Are you kidding me? Yor smile makes me melt; or, you have an incredibly sexy ass; or something equivalent. But I am always honest about it. Saying something like, "You're the best looking guy around", sounds hollow and if it's not true a person will know you're pandering. People know where they stand on our cultures scale of "attractiveness". Why lie? But it is so easy to see beyond that for some of us. This is why, when I do sometimes advertize, I never say words such as "stunning" or "the best" or "ultimate fantasy". That is desperate oversell imo. I am not stunning, nor am I the best (although I am very very good at a lot of things ;) ), and perhaps I am someones ultimate fantasy, but how would I know that? So the reverse is also true. I will tell you the truth from my eyes. I will say what I find sensual or sexy about you and if you make my legs shake and know how to push my buttons you will know that as well. I do not believe the stigma will go away any time soon, if ever. Some people just don't get it, and never will. It will lessen over time with what Nathalie says, but for some folks this will always be an industry of sleaze. Also all people are different and can lower the bar simply by participating in this activity. Yes there is fantasy and illusion in this business, but there is also room for positive honesty.

To answer your first question, I was hoping for more ideas to bring things to light and I think this thread has done exactly that :) If there are more suggestions, by all means, post them. To answer your seconds question, I'm not entirely sure. Similar to GLBTQ movements for rights related to gender identity and sexual orientation, I think both sex workers and clients will face less and less stigma as time goes by as local, national, and international sex workers' human rights organizations shed light on the industry for the general public. Also, a lot of sex workers are less and less 'closeted' about their experiences... Other thoughts? I don't want to bump the thread if it's dead, but I'm curious :)

For some reason I can't help but picture this: But yeah, no judgement on others, to me it sounds more stressful than fun. If I'm going to get to enjoy an encounter, I want to it to be a real experience. Hard to do that when you've given yourself less time than the previews last at a movie.

It really gets kinda sad when it actually has to be spelled out YMMV. Is common sense and common decency so far gone that a prospective client needs to have things such as a fresh shower, shave, fresh breath, deodorant, clean clothes etc spelled out contract form like before having a date with a professional companion. I really wonder after reading some posts how did these guys manage to date in the civilian world. Instead of worrying about a provider vs client contract which to me sets the tone of the encounter off wrong. It implies, using the phrase "provider versus client" a underlying conflict between the two. And using a contract is using legalese to navigate any unforeseen circumstances that may happen in an intimate encounter Why not, instead go into an encounter with a positive attitude. The lady is a professional companion, so go to the date using some simple common sense, like good hygiene and paying her in full on arrival. Treat the lady, every lady, like a lady, with respect and appreciation, and she'll treat you like a gentlemen and return the respect and appreciation. And don't worry about contracts and other distasteful things. Instead let things unfold naturally, and do what you can to make the encounter an enjoyable time not just for you but for the lady too. And you'll find the encounter will likely be a very memorable memory A late night, I guess early morning rambling RG

15 minuets isn't long enough to get to know you enough to know whether or not we should actually be naked together. I have a 2 hour minimum for a reason. If it isn't fun for me then I'm not playing. I do understand there are those on a limited time frame but I genuinely believe that they never get out the door in 15 mins thus they should take a 30 min option offered by those providers that specialize in in shorter visits. I just don't get 15 min sessions... cat

seems to me that he is biased ... but to each their own ... as a mature provider and selective ... I will refrain from even considering booking with this gentleman in the future when he realizes that we have more experience and will know what buttons to push and play with ;) and not booking quantity but giving the quality that most are looking for :)

Woww, l love the way you write. .. absolutely amazing thanks for sharing

You might want to try something that doesn't resemble your furniture, linens, cloth, whatever. Bull Penis (Bullies) are long lasting and engage them for hours. I highly doubt you have any of this hanging around your home so puppy wont associate it with anything. lol Also natural fish and duck chews will be happily chewed to shreds and your shoes etc can be safe. I made the mistake of playing with my dog with a fluffy blanket. I have a pair of shorts made out of the same material. I can hardly chastise her for thinking they are a toy for her to mangle and throw around. :)

Let's do some time math for a quickie: Before deed: -Get in the door, say hello, untie & remove shoes, take coat off and hang up: 5 minutes (stuck coat zipper, add 1 minute; knot in laces, add 1 minute) -Give donation: 1 minute -Quickie hand wash: 1 minute -Take cloths off without rips or popped buttons: 2 minutes (stuck pants zipper, add 1 minute) -Quick minimal hand wash: 0.5 minutes After deed: -Quick minimal wash-up: 1 minute -Put cloths on, neat & tidy: 3 minutes -Put shoes & coat on: 2 minutes So far, were up to 15.5 minutes, without the eventualities added in. Maybe with practice my times could be improved, but even with a half-hour session, 14.5 minutes left for fun-time isn't enough for me.

A rare phenomenon: skypunch

Halloween Fun Day this Thursday......To Show our Customer's Appreciation all our cuties will be dressed up in there naughty Halloween costumes! 30,45 and 1 hour door fee ALL $50!!!! Sunday Robyn 10-9 aka "robynxoxo" Kelly 11:30-3 aka "Kelly2010" Jennie 10-3 aka "ASTONISHING JENNIE" Maya 3-9 aka "MidnightMaya" Lexi 3:30-9 aka "Sexy Lexi" Monday Taylor 10-7 aka "Taylor Devine" Lexi 10-11 aka "Sexy Lexi" Tiffany 10-4 aka "TiffanyXXXOOO" Nicky 10-4 aka "Nicky in Paradise" Kelly 6:30-11 aka "Kelly2010" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Tuesday Summer 10-4 aka "SUMMERLOVE" Nicky 10-4 aka "Nicky in Paradise" Taylor 10-9 aka "Taylor Devine" Lexi 10-4 aka "Sexy Lexi" Hannah 3:30-11 aka "Hannahxo" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Jennie 5:30-11 aka "ASTONISHING JENNIE" Wednesday AJ 10-4 Taylor 10-9 aka "Taylor Devine" Nicky 10-4 aka "Nicky in Paradise" Summer 10-4 aka "SUMMERLOVE" Lexi 3:30-11 aka "Sexy Lexi" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Kelly 6:30-11 aka "Kelly2010" Thursday Pandora 10-4 aka "Pandora" Nicky 10-11 aka "Nicky in Paradise" Taylor 10-6 aka "Taylor Devine" Summer 10-4 aka "SUMMERLOVE" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Kelly 6:30-11 aka "Kelly2010" Friday Nicky 10-11 aka "Nicky in Paradise" Pandora 10-4 aka "Pandora" Taylor 10-5 aka "Taylor Devine" Summer 10-4 aka "SUMMERLOVE" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Lexi 3:30-11 aka "Sexy Lexi" Saturday Kelly 10-9 aka "Kelly2010" Hannah 10-9 aka "Hannahxo" Pandora 10-9 aka "Pandora" Sunday Maya 10-4 aka "Midnight Maya" Robyn 10-9 aka "robynxoxo" Hannah 10-9 aka "Hannahxo" Lexi 3:30-9 aka "Sexy Lexi"

Something NEW for us.....let's have some fun.....to Show our Customer's Appreciation on Halloween Day all our cuties will be dressed up in there naughty Halloween costumes! Regular room door fees for 30,45 and 1 hour ALL $50 ....Paradise Getaway Room excluded from SPECIAL! Sunday Marlie 10-4 aka "Marvelous Marlie" Nina 10-7 aka "Nina Dream" Sasha 10-9 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Jamie 3:30-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Monday Pandora 9-4 aka "Pandora" Hannah 12-9 aka "Hannahxo" Sasha 9-9 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Riley 9-9 aka "Riley Parks" Salina 2-9 aka "Salinaflower" Nina 4-9 aka "Nina Dream" Tuesday Tianna 9-4 aka "Luscious.Tianna" Marlie 9-3:30 aka "Marvelous Marlie" Salina 9-4 aka "Salinaflower" Elle 11-4 NEW aka "Ellexo" Sasha 3:30-9 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Cherry 3-9 aka "Cherry Blossom" Nina 4-9 aka "Nina Dream" Riley 2:30-9 aka "Riley Parks" Jamie 3:30-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Wednesday Hannah 9-3:30 aka "Hannahxo" Tianna 9-4:30 aka "Luscious.Tianna" Elle 9-1:30 NEW aka "Ellexo" Marlie 9-4 aka "Marvelous Marlie" Sasha 9-11 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Riley 1-11 aka "Riley Parks" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Salina 2-11 aka "Salinaflower" AJ 3:30-11 Thursday Jamie 9-4 aka "Jamie-xo" Chantal 9-4 aka "Chantal Summers" Marlie 9-4 aka "Marvelous Marlie" Tianna 9-5 aka "Luscious.Tianna" Riley 9-11 aka "Riley Parks" Salina 2-11 aka "Salinaflower" Sasha 3-11 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Melody 7-11 aka "Melody" Friday Salina 9-4 aka "Salinaflower" Marlie 9-4 aka "Marvelous Marlie" Tianna 9-4:30 aka "Luscious.Tianna" Sasha 9-4 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Cherry 3-11 aka "Cherry Blossom" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Riley 3:30-11 aka "Riley Parks" Nina 4-11 aka "Nina Dream" Saturday Taylor 9-9 aka "Taylor_xo" Tianna 9-4 aka "Luscious.Tianna" Riley 9-4 aka "Riley Parks" Lilly 9-9 aka "Lillickens" Nina 9-9 aka "Nina Dream" Sasha 9-9 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Jamie 3:30-9 aka "Jamie-xo" Sunday Nicky 10-9 aka "Nicky in Paradise" Nina 10-7 aka "Nina Dream" Salina 10-9 aka "Salinaflower" Sasha 10-9 aka "Sasha-Paradise" Jamie 3:30-9 aka "Jamie-xo"

Wishing you a very Happy Birthday!

Happy Birthday Birdboy !! Hope your day has been fantabulous !

I hope you have a very special birthday:)

Almost an hour at my 3rd club of the night and I finally got a dancer who actually spoke to me. Posted via Mobile Device

Hours: 11:30am - 3:00am Monday to Friday 7:00pm - 3:00am Saturday to Sunday This is from the sign on the door I'm looking at right now. Additional Comments: On another note (and I don't mean to sound rude here), but if you're open at X-o'clock, the merchandise should be ready at that time, not 2hrs later.

Welcome to the party hun :) Its nice to see another local lady on the boards. There are some great threads in the newbie section that not only give advice on how cerb works, but also questions about the trade as well. The "in the news" and "legal" sections are pretty up to date on the legal aspects of our work as well. Cerb is not only a community of the best ppl in the industry, but also a source of invaluable and updated information. Plz enjoy yourself, and just like sugar I'm pretty much always around cerb if you have any local questions. Stay happy, healthy, and horny hun ;)

I like this question, because it's not "what make someone HOT!?" but rather "what makes someone intriguing, and worth spending time with, learning from, and experiencing the world with?" For me it's a combination of things. Here's my wish-list, though it only takes a few of these to make me say "I'd like to get to know her better!" a) signs that she's walked out in the world for a bit, and been engaged with people and experiences she's encountered rather than observed from a safe distance. (People who have lived a completely safe and cloistered life are less interesting to me.) b) signs that she's suffered a few setbacks and some pain as a result of the risks she took in a), but while she may have bent in the process she's hasn't broken. (People who have never failed or suffered, and who have lived a life of unblemished success, are less interesting to me.) c) signs of honesty, charity, compassion, a tendency to root for the underdog; a sense of connection to all people, not just the pretty or rich or the most forceful personality in the room. d) signs of thoughtfulness and reflection, a desire to learn and understand new things, yet an inclination to action as well as thought. The ability to grow and change. The ability to change her mind when new information is available. That's what comes to mind first, anyway. ;)

Happy Birthday Birdboy, hope you enjoy your day!

Wishing you a very happy birthday!

Happy Birthday! May your day be filled with all you love:)

Happy Birthday Birdboy! Have yourself one fantastic day!!! :D

Happy Birthday Birdboy.... May you have an amazing day....

I'm more of a documentary film kinda gal. Real life is much more exciting, controversial and entertaining to me than most things that anyone could ever make up. Just watched Blackfish. Trailer: "A mesmerizing psychological thriller with a killer whale at its centre, Blackfish is the first film since Grizzly Man to show how nature can get revenge on man when pushed to its limits." Saddest shit ever. :( It's all about the "Sea Circus" industry and one special orca in particular named Tillikum, who has faced hardship his whole life, and is now swimming around in a tiny wet jail cell all alone, sad and lifeless. Happy to say I've never visited a SeaWorld or similar establishment, and never will. The "education, research, conservation" spiel they feed people is corporate propaganda bullshit. It's all for $$$. Watch this doc.

Like any craft, it takes years of practise to master this skill. Hot twenty-somethings are a dime a dozen. An "intelligent and engaging 42 year old" is worth her weight in gold.

I'm overworked, exhausted and sore, but I don't give a crap I'm in a good mood! it's been awhile but it feels great. When I often feel depressed or nothing at all I cherish these moments.

Reading through this thread, I happened to have noticed no one asked if you've even seen an "old" (I believe the politically correct term is MATURE) companion before? Are you one of those people who says they don't like chocolate because they've only ever had vanilla?

I believe most of us agree that each lady regardless of age brings her own unique style to the table. I have been fortunate to work with ladies from their 20's to 40's. Each lady I have had the opportunity to work with I had tons of fun with. So my stand ( of course) is all ladies are grand but if you have a preference go for it. This life is short so everyone deserves their preference. Please don't compare us, hey I am mature but you are going to have fun with me!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

You are stirring up a hornet's nest like nlwoodchuck said. You don't need to put one group of ladies down because you have a preference for another group of ladies. All the ladies are human beings, with feelings and deserving of respect You may have a particular preference for younger woman, and there is nothing wrong with that. But your preferences aren't every man's preferences. I like ladies where I feel a connection can be made, to me encounters are much more than just sex. And I have had wonderful encounters with ladies in their mid-twenties to their fifties. Something else you'll find, while you talk about your preferences, ladies have preferences in the men they see too. They much prefer to have encounters with respectful gentlemen. Your thread certainly doesn't show too much respect or gentlemanly behavior in my opinion to the ladies, and if I notice it, I'm sure the ladies notice it too. Even the ladies you prefer to see, younger ladies, know they, as we all do, will get older. So does that make them disposable to you, good for only so many years. It is really a demeaning and dehumanizing thing to do to a person and lady Ladies who are providers are very special, for it takes a very special person who can provide an escape and companionship for someone. All providers deserve respect, this thread isn't respectful to all the providers out there Frankly I don't know why you felt the need for such a thread. CERB is in part about providing positive recommendations of ladies. Not about putting down ladies because of age. You asked what we thought, now you know what is thought A rambling RG

Hi, I'm a mature provider,happily so.Although I do what I have to to market myself. This isn't a business that is kind to aging, nor are some involved in it. But in saying that I don't believe mature means "top bookers, better quality, etc, neither do I think because a provider is young that she'll be more in demand, better looking, etc. Cerb has some gorgeous, incredibly built mature women, some that can certainly hold their own!! I don't like to think one versus the other either, we all have our fans, no one is better than or less than, just different. It's best to have that frame of mind when it comes to most things:) But if your experiences, tastes are swayed towards younger then enjoy and embrace that but don't compare, there's just no need to:)

Damian709, As I'm from you're neck of the woods so I'll welcome you to cerb. The quality or success (what I assume you mean by top bookers) of a companion has nothing to do with age. It has all to do with how that lady interacts with her clients and the experience that she provides. If your "experience" has been that YOU have enjoyed your time with younger ladies more than mature ladies then that's great. Stick with what works for you. I personally have had some of MY best experiences with ladies that would be considered (lol) older. Their intellect and innate ability to understand what I as a client need has been no doubt brought on by their experience and the understanding that the experience is not just about sex. For your first post you decided to poke a bit of a potential hornets nest so please be careful. I recommend that you take your time and read the whole newbie area and become familiar with cerbs rules and tone. It might save you from getting stung. Hmmmm.......ending a post with "what do you think?" seems a little familiar to me, not sure why. Best of luck

I'm a mature provider as well...I don't consider myself a top booker. I consider myself a selective booker. ;) most mature ladies do. We consider quality time over quanity appointments.

Welcome to Cerb, Damien :) To get this conversation started, maybe you could tell us why, in your experience, "younger ladies are better service providers". What does "younger versus "older" mean to you, personally? As far as your first question, I am not certain I understand what it means. Care to expand on the meaning of "top booker"? Thanks :) Additional Comments: Just another question... What makes an SP a good one/a better one in your books?

I think I'm going to have to re-watch this one. I am fairly certain I turned it off halfway through, not liking it at all, but most horror fans love it so maybe I just wasn't in the right mood. And, it's the second film on this list - http://www.listchallenges.com/the-greatest-horror-films-of-the-past-5-years I just watched 'Absentia', the first one. LOVED it. Great in so many ways - no big Hollywood cast, no huge effects. It's a monster movie, but manages to be CREEPY AS FUCK without ever really showing you anything. One of those movies where you watch it, think, 'That was good, then a few minutes later, shudder, and you can't get it out of your head. So really, it was more than good.

Here is the revised list incorporating Tiannas' recent contributions. Hotels that REQUIRE a room key to use the elevator: Hotel 10 (Hotel formely known as Opus) Candlewood Suites Le Crystal Embassy Suites Hilton Garden Inn Holiday Inn Express Holiday Inn Montreal Midtown Inter Continental Loews Vogue Montreal Airport Marriott Hotel Novotel St-Martin W Montreal Le Westin The following require a room key for certain "premium" floors: Delta MTL Fairmont Q.E. Finally the following Hotel(s) sometimes has security checking for room keys at certain times (usually evening during nearby events): Sheraton Centre I also saw the Days Inn listed once, but haven't been able to confirm that because the searching for "days" is pretty darn unproductive. Any additions, corrections or subtractions, and I'll edit the list. {Edited} Thank you!

It is a SCAM and when I have time I love to waste their time. I act all concerned when they tell me I have a virus that's affecting the whole network but not to worry they will help me. So I play dumb and have them guide me through the processes to rid my computer of viruses. What they try to convince you to do is to disable certain security on your computer that would allow them to install a msn type appllication that will allow them remote operation of your computer, in doing so they can install keystroke and spyware software and also install a virus cleaner that will prompt you to purchase a spyware cleaner of course for that you need to give them your credit card info. So I like to fumble my way around the computer and pretend like I don't know what I'm doing and just frustrate the hell out of them. Other times when I don't have the time I tell them "yes there is a message on my computer" they act all concerned and helpful and ask that I read it out to them. I tell them yes it says " Microsoft windows has detected that you are being scammed over the telephone please advise the caller to FUCK OFF" Usually they reply back with a barrage of slurs and nonsensical insults, my favorite being when the gentleman on the phone told me " you sir put your penis into your anus!" and then hung up on me, LOL

Not everyone can afford more than 30 minutes.. so they don't have the luxury of choosing 45-1 hr or longer.. I am amenable to all options. I can be a quickie girl and it can be fun and hot.. or I can be a long evening date and carry on a conversation as well as entertain :)

I think you point out the perfect reason why generally there aren't big discounts for multiple hours. I never get tired or drained by sex, I'm a nympho. However, I can and do get emotionally drained at times, especially when booking sessions for multiple hours. In my experience, multiple hours take longer to plan, include more requests, attention to detail than say, a 30 min or 60 min session. You spend more time thinking of what special things you can do for the client since you'll be together longer. And, as Malika said, if it's a first meeting and you don't have great chemistry, what now? Frankly, I'm assuming that if someone is that taken with me and interested in spending extended periods of time with me, they are doing so because they want to be around me. Because they appreciate me as a human being and want my company. Not because I offer a discount on longer sessions. That makes no sense. Even though I get paid for this, as it is my job, I don't see clients for multiple hours if I feel it would hurt our relationship in some way(long sessions aren't for everyone), or if I don't like the gent. Money isn't everything and my place is not a revolving door of cash flow and random men.

I agree ! Quite simply a good post looking for opinions from people as to whether 45 minutes is an option, for those that maybe don't offer it now. Either an SP is interested or not interested and that is their perogative. There should NOT be criticism of ladies who offer short appointments......it should not be assumed that they are running the guys through the chute like cattle for money by the minute ...... They are offering a service to clients who have a time issue or a budget issue. That is how it should be looked at. If you have the opinion otherwise it does not need to be posted in this thread. Just keep that in the back or your mind. IMO

Maybe its just me, but I find this a really offensive statement of people who offer shorter sessions. Sorry, but providing a session that meets the needs of your clients is the goal of any business. No one who provides shorter sessions has spent time making derogatory comments about the people who prefer longer times lol, so I can't figure out why I keep seeing so many comments that seem to agree with this quote. I think you'd be surprised both at how much of a connection can be made in shorter sessions, simply because financially, it leads to a LOT of repetition.