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I've refused greek. Twice. There really was no 'good reason' for it, besides that as soon as we began, it HURT. For one, I returned the greek premium. The other, I kept it for a future session. In one instance, I believe we still had a great encounter. The other, I know he was disappointed. But this IS where 'YMMV' comes in. I offer that service. It's not a size-based thing, but sometimes... you start and it HURTS. I offer strapon service as well, so believe me, I'm not the only one it can happen to. Should I have felt obligated to grit my teeth and provide the service, despite the fact I would have been in pain the whole time? I sure hope not! I haven't had that client repeat, which does not surprise me as I am aware he came to me for something I didn't give him. That doesn't mean I ripped him off, gave false advertising, etc etc. It just wasn't possible at that time. These are our bodies, they're not machines, we can't turn it to a certain setting and have it be the same every time. Sometimes things don't work out.... so don't repeat. I don't see any other 'solution'.

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Edit....... Changed my mind ;) Looking back, it's not that important to me as my patrons and I understand each other and we do not need a contract to enjoy each other's company.

For me, the hottest thing that can come out of a man's mouth (besides his tongue) is the truth. Any dirty talk that flows naturally and in the heat of the moment is a turn on for me. I wouldn't put myself in a situation of being with someone who was into things outside my boundaries so it would be highly unlikely degrading or hard limit directives would come out. I have been with partners who weren't comfortable with dirty talk and it was a turn on to hear them learning to express their desire vocally. It's not what you say, it's the way you say it that has the most impact. As for the turn off scale, honestly guys who have unreasonable expectations or ones based on someone else. We are all human and we all have our own reactions and abilities. Just because lady A squirted with little to no effort doesn't mean I will react the same. Nor does it mean I can come multiple times in 5 minutes or even within 5 minutes. If you have expectations that every woman is the same and can all perform the same it puts unnecessary stress on our time and turns it more negative then positive. B open, explore, learn...don't expect! Also, because something happened one way one time, don't expect it to be that way all the time. People and situations can change, be aware. For me, be present in the moment, enjoy one another and have no expectations beyond enjoying what happens.

And where do older women fit in? Obviously I have no clue about the demographics of your sample and how well-balanced it is (or isn't), but I can't help but wonder if the difference isn't at least somewhat age-based. After all, the older folks among us remember what it was like to be young, but the young have no concept of what it's like to be old. I don't suppose many forty-somethings have the vigor and stamina and powers of recovery they did in their twenties (in many spheres of life, not just sex) but I suspect they'd appreciate that there are compensations that their twenty-something selves never envisaged. Yes and yes. It helps to personalize things, and even more if you can put names to those people. This is especially true when that name is "you", as in when you're talking to a guy who has visited a strip club and gone home with a smile on his face. As I said earlier, that's true for most of us guys, I think. I'm inclined to agree, given that the general trend these days seems to be happily towards less preaching and more tolerance in most areas of life. But I think there's a very strong parallel with the GLBTQ movements, which is the existence of a closet, and the enormous power of people coming out of that closet; not just the sex workers, but the clients too. I suspect many people won't care all that much about the stigma if it relates to faceless people, even if they accept the fact that those faceless people are no different from the ones they know and love; but when that stigma suddenly applies to your parent/child/sibling/cousin/friend and you see them suffer as a result of it, the problem suddenly acquires an urgency that it didn't have before. So as MightyPen said, communicating the message that "clients are just like guys you care about" is definitely effective, but what would be more effective would be if that were unnecessary because your interlocutor would already be thinking, "Yes, just like <insert name here>. Hey, I wonder if they've met...?". And that's NOT something that sex workers can do for us; sure, more sex workers going public will help as the negative stereotypes of both them and their clients tend to feed off each other, but ultimately if clients are going to be destigmatized it's going to have to be the clients themselves who do it by outing themselves to their friends and families. Obviously the ease of this varies enormously depending on personal circumstances; the current client who's single has far fewer obstacles than the one whose currently-happy marriage wouldn't survive the revelation, and I'd image it's possibly easier for former clients to talk about things that happened some time ago than for current clients to be open about things that are happening now. So, I don't think it'll happen quickly - I'm inclined to think it's more likely to be decades than generations - but I think it'll happen.

For me, a racing pulse is stirred more by the tone than the words themselves. The velvet purr combined with hot moist words delivered anywhere near my neck area will send shivers throughout my body and goosebumps appear in the most delicate places. Whispers first of want, then carnal need primes me for the action to follow. Words with hard C's seem to ring my bell more than soft s's. The one thing that really doesn't work for me is being commanded to come more than is humanly possible. If you are here for a play date, know that I will come as my body allows and doesn't follow direction of that nature. The words "Come for me again" dries me out quicker than a sun shower lasts in Arizona... cat

I had the very good fortune of spending time with Emma Alexandra a couple of weeks ago. I have known Emma for some time but she has not been visiting our city regularly and accordingly it had been two agonizing years since our last visit. So, a number of weeks ago I asked her to come see me, and she said yes. Wonderful! I felt like I was back in university and I had just asked out the coolest girl on campus. I'll get right to the point. Emma to me is a Diva. So wonderfully beautiful and deliciously sexy. Typically, when a shy guy like me writes a recco we often say, "I wont get into the details". Well, me not getting into the details on this recco would be a gross injustice. So fasten your seat belts, here goes: When I arrived, Emma was wearing an outfit that she knew I would enjoy. Black stockings, heels, low cut dress showing off her magnificent breasts in a teasing way. We immediately engaged in a long kiss hello, even before the door was closed. God, it was so good to see her. She looked exactly as I remembered and to hear her sexy voice again, WOW!! We fell on the bed and enjoyed a number of moments catching up, laughing, and kissing, all while in a warm embrace. Soon her breasts came out of her dress and I played, and played. Emma, in a wonderfully naughty way ran her hand down to feel my excitement,and she played as I played. Oh to feel her warm slender fingers teasing me! From there, we got naked, and it was magical! Emma is an erotic lady and is not shy to tell you that she enjoys sex immensely. Indeed it is mouth watering sex as she says in her profile. I simply let her take over. Mind-blowing pleasure, excitement, hot, wild and wet! To have her golden locks dangling my face again was amazing. We were very intense for the longest time, until I had my first of three fabulous orgasms. Now I am on the north side of 60, but that morning, I felt 35 again. Between our intense sessions, we laid in each others arms, cuddling, kissing, talking, laughing. What a great lady with a great sense of humour. We talked of many things. Emma is a Cape Breton girl, now living in Montreal and she has traveled internationally. She is very interesting, but it is that down to earth Cape Breton good nature that I enjoy most. I am very happy I connected with Emma again. Of course, I am hoping it will not be two years before the next time, and we see her in New Brunswick more often.

I'm 'out' about being an escort in my personal life. When I meet new people, I test the waters before I tell them but I don't hesitate overly long. The issue I often face when meeting new people is something along the following. They say, "it's alright that you're an escort, but... your clients... aren't they kind of gross? Isn't it nasty to have to do things you don't want to do with people you aren't attracted to, or who are dirty?" I'm always really amazed that people say those sorts of things. I adore my clients, and I'm lucky to have had very positive experiences. They ask me lots of mean questions (i.e. about hygiene, weight, appearance, STIs, etc) as if this were a reason to stigmatize, or dislike, not my job as an escort, but rather the clients that seek my services... Ewwww seems to be their reaction. So I've done a few things to 'humanize' clients in the minds of the people I meet. I usually say, "Do you like your dad, brother, uncle, cousin?" "Well, of course", they say. "He's probably my most typical client", I respond. They are shocked. I say other things too, of course, but that's usually where I start... My question is for the clients on the board, if you could say anything to the people I talk to, what would you want to say about yourself? While I'm really good at defending my clients in these situations, I'm curious to see what other people would say if they could be open about their involvement on CERB.

A reputable cerb SP is your best educated introduction to the craft. Even experienced fiends can find renewed satisfaction by discovering someone ... Say someone like Cleo! Start with her or anybody on this board that twerks your fancy. You have to see their pics and let your own initial response decide. I've been told that this hobby can also help with the home front. Helping to reinvigorate ones primal desires and renew your passion. But if you have any, and I mean any sense of guilt or remorse, don't bother. It may eat at you. Also would be good to learn to be smooth and discrete.

I don't think either of them was saying this was a waste of time sweetheart, but rather an impossible question to answer. Cerb is here to offer you a choice of ladies, and the only one who knows what suits YOUR choice is you. GFE and doggy style aren't enough to go on for a choice, because I'm fairly certain every woman found in the FS Advertising section offers both of those. I'm sure the gentlemen here would be happy to assist in recommendations if you can narrow down something, such as preferred location, any physical traits you may find appealing, and if there is a maximum amount you're willing to spend as rates do vary.

I agree with that statement. See: "irony". Also, call the above "Quote A". I think people have been saying that the women on CERB are a better-known quantity, that's all. In particular, the ladies here are active amongst a persistent public community and you have a chance to get to know them over time from their posting history and forum interactions. It's a rather long stretch to get from there to "GOOD vs. BAD" which, though I'm not going to read through the whole thread again, I don't think anybody has actually said (except you, there, just now). I don't have a problem with people seeking specific services. I do that sometimes myself. There's absolutely nothing wrong with expressing a specific desire in advance. The dispute centers around how one responds when the provider expresses, for any of a thousand possible reasons that may be important to her at the time, a disinclination to perform some intimate act with you once the session is underway. And THERE's the problem. The SP always has final discretion in the intimate service she chooses to provide. And you cannot know the SPs mind, or what might be compelling for her at a given moment or in a given situation. And yet look at your sweeping statements I've bolded above. Now, go back and read "Quote A". Yeah.

My friend... there are soooo many different and wonderful women in the Ottawa area. Recommending one or another that has captivated one of us may or may not do the trick for you. CERB is a recommendation board... so here is a recommendation: Find a lady...read her ads, read her recos.... take the plunge. You'll be nervous as hell before you get started but I GUARANTEE that all that will vanish when you contact a really great provider. Without knowing what you want, who you are into or what your price point is, there is really nothing we can say other than... "Go get em tiger!"

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True! These discussions take place amongst a microcosm of CERB members which represents a micro microcosm of the sex trade generally. Sort of like preaching to the choir. Peace MG

I think you're right, and I think that's why a lot of us go in circles in these discussions on here. In most cases, it seems like the women participating are not the ones the clients are talking about.... so the points never seem to get resolved, because the ladies can't seem to offer resolutions to situations they can't imagine happening.

I think that strictly based on a shear numbers game most SP's have had the opportunity to meet and experience a very wide variety of individuals from our society. It's because of this that I think that (not because it's just good business on a lady's part) most SP's have a much greater appreciation for the cliché, "beauty is only skin deep" than your "average" person. Hence, a SP's skill at looking beyond to find that beauty (as Nat mentioned) when meeting with clients is much more highly developed than your Joe on the street so grasping the concept that "beauty is everywhere, if only you take the time to look for it" flows from that. Not too long ago some of you may remember CBC did their expose on the booming sex trade in Newfoundland. For a week or two this business was brought right to the forefront of many "water cooler" discussions. I was privy to hearing many of these types of discussions and there was a general consensus of people being aghast and perplexed at who all these men were that were fueling this sex trade. In the piece the interviewed lady specifically said, "these guys are your fathers brothers and sons". With that you could almost hear the collective gasp of horror across the province from the general public. One of the specific points I heard a woman make was that, "all these guys who are seeing these escorts must have pretty good jobs to be able to spend thousands of dollars on escorts". Then the conversation evolved and a realization that, "yes it can't just be all dirt bags seeing these ladies, it has to be some well to do guys too". The conversation spun off from there but there was a sense of shock that "My God, sure it could be anyone". Then they started surmising guys that they thought probably did this, however the funny part is in an effort to be funny they'd offer the names of the straightest, stiffest, most proper guys. All the while I smiled and thought, boy if you only knew!

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Ok, I'm going to vent here..... On my profile, website, etc, I clearly state no greek - no back door action of any type. However, I seem to get guys that want to play with my bum. I know its cute and awesome, but we are getting into the grove, and next thing I know, they are sticking their finger up my ass. No lube, no forewarning, just plug, their finger is in my ass. Then they take their finger and try to put it in my pussy. I try to explain again, no back door action, and can you please clean your hands before we continue. They get all irritated, and don't seem to understand why I'm pissed. Can I ask them for more money or should I show them to the door? No, I grit my teeth, and try to finish the call. Am I happy? Hell no. Not one sp has mentioned this. However, there are those of us that have been there. Next time someone chooses not to give you a service - think. End of rant......

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I just want to say that I would never want an SP to do anything that she didn't feel comfortable doing. Full stop. If things don't work out as I hoped well that is just life. I will get over it.

When a Gent asks, "why an old/fat/whatever like me?"; I stare them in the eyes and state the obvious. As I said earlier, it's not too difficult to find something that is very charming and alluring with everyone. I will say something like, "Are you kidding me? Yor smile makes me melt; or, you have an incredibly sexy ass; or something equivalent. But I am always honest about it. Saying something like, "You're the best looking guy around", sounds hollow and if it's not true a person will know you're pandering. People know where they stand on our cultures scale of "attractiveness". Why lie? But it is so easy to see beyond that for some of us. This is why, when I do sometimes advertize, I never say words such as "stunning" or "the best" or "ultimate fantasy". That is desperate oversell imo. I am not stunning, nor am I the best (although I am very very good at a lot of things ;) ), and perhaps I am someones ultimate fantasy, but how would I know that? So the reverse is also true. I will tell you the truth from my eyes. I will say what I find sensual or sexy about you and if you make my legs shake and know how to push my buttons you will know that as well. I do not believe the stigma will go away any time soon, if ever. Some people just don't get it, and never will. It will lessen over time with what Nathalie says, but for some folks this will always be an industry of sleaze. Also all people are different and can lower the bar simply by participating in this activity. Yes there is fantasy and illusion in this business, but there is also room for positive honesty.

Im going to try to bring the ball back around here. While everybody has a "type" that may make them tingle; not all is based on looks. Obviously. I learned a long time ago that everybody has something to bring to the table that is sexy and sensual. Be it personality, or a wonderful smile or respect, handsome hands, whatever. Example...when I was in my 20's I thought David Lee Roth was da bomb; until he opened his mouth in an interview. Any sexy in him went right out the window. That taught me a lot in judging what I personally find attractive in a person. I am a Nudist at heart, and have belonged to a club long before there were many. When you have been around as many naked people as I have, you learn pretty quick not to buy into the poster people. They are not real. Airbrushed, coiffed, make up, graphic manipulation, all add up to what you see. Yes some people are generally more physically attractive that others; but that does not make others non attractive. Perhaps I have become a realist where the human body is concerned. In my opinion everyone has something about them that one can find "sexy" or "attractive". To me it's also a package deal. The whole enchilada describes who a person is rather than looks. When one is young, people tend to buy into the poster people. But maturity and real life usually soon dispel that. I was considered cute at that age and was pretty popular. Cute usually doesn't last beyond 30 imo. Age and illness has changed my looks, but I am no less comfortable in my skin now than then. And how I view peoples sensuality abruptly changed with the David Lee Roth experience. I also belong to an historical group. Something that hit me very profoundly one day was a bigger woman saying why she loved dressing up and being in this club. She said it made her feel pretty. That stunned me as I always thought she was anyway. But her perception of her own self was rather skewed in that she still thought of herself as unsexy and unattractive when not wearing the pretty clothes. How does one tell that woman that you are beautiful, clothing or not? You can't. That is their own journey. I am in complete agreement here with Nathalie. There is always something. And it doesn't take long to figure it out. Intimacy is arousing, being treated well is arousing, men who actually care for me as a person is arousing. Those are the men that I personally want to come back. Because it is, to some of us, more than just sex.

Very good and provocative question. Not only do people in the general community ask me this, but I have clients who has asked me this on occasion. I don't think my clients have asked because of a lack of self-confidence, but rather, because of a genuine curiosity about who I'm attracted to, and under what circumstances. To those younger people who are attached to a movie star poster on the wall, I say "grow up". There is so much more to physical attraction than the purely physical. For me, it's the whole package deal that counts. I'm attracted to gentleness, kindness, a touch here, and a touch there. I'm a hopeless romantic, too. Respect, being treated well, and feeling cared for all make me feel...well...aroused. I find intimacy arousing. Usually, when I first meet someone and sit down to talk, I notice something. It's hard to put a finger on what, but there's always something. For example, handsome fingers (where will they go?), beautiful eyes (where will they look?), or a chest of hair that I can softly run my fingers through. I don't focus on one thing; for me, attraction is a whole package deal. When people talk to me about 'gross' physical characteristics based on weight, age, height, ethnicity, etc, I tell them we clearly have different definitions of 'gross' and challenge them to think beyond the 'poster'.

Great post!! I am not "out". But I have told a few people. Thankfully they are open-minded enough to understand that both sides of the coin have normal everyday people, and do not apply the stigma. Some have showed incredible surprise. But I have had to educate. I have been very lucky in that sense. However, the general misconception can only be eradicated by more education of the general public. One of which we are all a part of. That, in and of itself, is difficult without outing yourself. But, I think as time goes on, our culture will change its general attitude, to a point. There will always be a seedy side to this business simply because it is a demographic. Demographics always have variables, but it is paramount to understand that those variables mostly include everyday people leading everyday lives. Not the reverse. The Gents that choose to share their lives with me, are for the most part, all normal everyday people. Some of my clients are high profile, so there can be a difference; but the general Gent is just that. The same goes with most SP's. If you saw me on the street you would never guess my little secret. I am the woman next door, I love my family, am active in my community, care about my neighbours and have many friends. I in turn extrapolate that to Hobbiests. It is so unfortunate that our culture doesn't see things that way. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground of opinion yet in the civilian world. To be honest I doubt there ever will be total acceptance. We place too much emphasis on sex in our society. Too much rides on who's doing who, how they're doing it and for what reasons. Until that ends there will always be a stigma. It's unfortunate, but true and wont change. So until then, humanizing the business is something we can all do, to a certain extent. Some more than others. I subscribe to SexBrainsMoney and I too applaud Mistert for being so forthcoming. Not everyone can do these types of interviews but the more that are out there, the more it helps. The more advocates that speak out, both SP and Hobbiest, the more mundane it will become. But sadly, not soon enough.

When you claim massage therapy you basically have to follow the instructions as per you insurance company require. Most likely there is a form to fill out., also there is most likely a limit on the ammout you can claim for the massage, you filled out the form submit your official receipt. , in which information about the RMT or the massage therapist professional has to put all her information., such as business address, Name, licence number, etc... Then most likely depending you will get a cheque in the mail once they verify the claim.. or some companies also use direct deposit. ps: I would not take a chance of mixing pleasure with real therapy massage.. it is illegal.. it is fraud... From your part and from the lady if she offers you... she is also putting at risk her professional credentials.

Hey Cerbites, and hopefully a few SP's. Long story short, 34 year old male. 2 year old daughter. Been on here for some time while trying to "fix" things. I think....I know I NEED to feel like a man again....and NOW. Any suggestions for my first experience? I am not attuned to any specific "type". I just want a real women, who knows what she is doing. As I am sure I will be nervous at first, but I am sure the "man tiger" will surface eventually. A GFE, with a twist of PSE if you know what I mean. I love 69, and doggy style. Always wanted to try greek, but not a must. Open to suggestions, and any SP's please feel free to help me out with a message if you want. Thanks, this week is the week I become a man again!

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Welcome Lea! I don't have a preference - An inexperienced girl next door gives us the opportunity to learn from and explore each other. A "been around the world and back" gal gives her the opportunity to teach me, and I like teachers because they make you do things over and over until you get them right.

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Likely something as simple as normal login cookie placement plus the subject matter of the website. Kaspersky has a large database of websites which they group and test on to provide generalized protection. CERB because of the content likely falls into a general category which associates the cookie/sex combo to likely phishing attempts, which is usually the case when averaged out over the entirety of the internet. Just a hunch though:D

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From the way this thread is going some men are worried about losing their couple hundred dollars, so they want to pay the lady (or say they will pay) at the end of an encounter, if the encounter meets their standards. Lets weigh real risks here. The guy could possibly lose a couple hundred dollars disposable income The lady could in fact lose actual income, needed to pay rent, car payment, bills, putting food on the table etc. Who really faces a true risk here? And any wonder ladies want payment up front. Me, I see ladies for longer encounters where donations are over the thousand dollar mark, not a couple hundred dollars, and when available I pay via email money transfer As for a contract based on menus, well most ladies I see don't even offer menus, the companionship they provide is based on an encounter unfolding naturally...and those encounters, while intimate details private, have been wonderful magical memories. And all those ladies have my utmost respect and admiration for the companionship they brought in my life Finally one thing that needs to be mentioned. The ladies do provide a service...companionship, not just sexual services, but companionship. That is something not every lady can do. But what sort of companionship is a lady going to be able to provide if the threat of not receiving her donation is hanging over her head, until the end of the encounter? And the lady's companionship has a intangible value far exceeding any donation asked for. So if you say you are a gentleman, really be one, pay up front. No lady should ever have to be worried about receiving her payment. And understand, in this lifestyle, YMMV is a normal industry standard. If you treat an encounter like meeting a woman for a conventional date (freshly showered/shaved/fresh breath/clean clothes etc) then you should have no problems. A rambling from a gentleman who happily pays up front, and will continue to do so, because that is what a gentleman does RG

Actually the Alexis mentioned in this thread is CANDY ALEXIS RIVERS.. she is my friend from down south. Not Sudbury.. Thats why I mentions I like bringing girls up from down south from time to time.. haha My Friend Alexis in Sudbury "Sexy Alexis" Or "Sexy Lexi" Is a different girl. AKA Shayna :)

There might be a way for you to add the site to a "white list" or trusted list in the software

Another good indicator is look at the girls who are active on here. Sugar kayne, Jade and Madison sparks come to mind. I have seen Sugar and Jade of those three and both are wonderful ladies.

To answer your first question, I was hoping for more ideas to bring things to light and I think this thread has done exactly that :) If there are more suggestions, by all means, post them. To answer your seconds question, I'm not entirely sure. Similar to GLBTQ movements for rights related to gender identity and sexual orientation, I think both sex workers and clients will face less and less stigma as time goes by as local, national, and international sex workers' human rights organizations shed light on the industry for the general public. Also, a lot of sex workers are less and less 'closeted' about their experiences... Other thoughts? I don't want to bump the thread if it's dead, but I'm curious :)

I am a skirt/dress over... rarely I wear pants ... even in the winter... and of course stockings with them :) sometimes panties lol... with my curves I find it flatters me more ... winter time ... my corsets are added ... loving the cooler weather now ... corset time :D

Saw Twyla a couple weeks back. As usual, great conversation, sensual, easy going, and actually very legitimate massage with hot stones. One day I'll walk in and actually get a massage alone. This is really the only place that consistently gives truly amazing finishes though: she actually mentioned the lube as a mixture of rapeseed oil, water, and some other stuff; it's really good!

It's a good point -- but I think that in every case the high-profile figure is cheapened and tarnished by the association. He drops a couple of rungs down the ladder. It's just that his other obvious assets of money or power are strong enough to keep him pretty high despite this. In essence, "he's rich but suffers from a sad compulsion." More generally, and not really directed at your specific post: So why are men stigmatized in the first place when found out to be sex work clients? It's because of that central role sex has in the historical, conservative underpinnings of our culture: it's one of the primary currencies for measuring people's level of success. - Men who are accomplished are "supposed to" have easy access to sex being offered from adoring women who respond to his success and power. If he doesn't have that, then he must not be successful. And if he's paying for it, he must not have any other access to it -- there's something wrong with him. - Women are expected to hold their sex in reserve as precious currency to secure marriage. If she's spending it too freely, she's cheapened; and worse, if she's selling it, she must be desperate, like pawning irreplaceable heirlooms. These ideas look silly spelled out like that, but they really do hold powerful, often unspoken yet deeply held authority in our sexually conflicted culture. Plus, what exposure do most people have to the industry? Only the media's portrayal, which condemns it with one hand (sex! exploitation! desperation!) at the same time it uses the sexual allure to draws viewers with its titillating side ("Look at those fishnet stockings! Tsk tsk. ...mmmm..."). It's hard to blame people who have nothing else to go on. I think the thing I'd say to try to address the stigma is EXACTLY what Nathalie did so wisely in her first post: "these are the very same guys you know in your own life, and there's nothing wrong with them. It's not the clients (or SPs) that are faulty; it's your own ideas about sex and sex work."

It's unfortunate there are stigmas about this lifestyle out in the "civilian" world. These are the most honest relationships I've had with women, no expectations on anyone's part except to be treated with respect From my vantage point, the ladies have provided me with a much needed escape, companionship and in some cases even friendship. And all encounters, even though the gentleman pays the lady a donation, still respect the lady's boundaries. I feel I am a better man today for the ladies I have met in this lifestyle. And all the ladies in this lifestyle are very special, for it takes someone very special to be a professional companion. They are much more than just providers of sex. I feel more open with some of the ladies I see than other people in my life. They provide a intimate connection, an escape and companionship, one which I cherish and appreciate A rambling RG

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Im Adriana Doll a.k.a Sexy Barbie and thanks for the shout outs I love having friends up from down south but unfortunately it only happens once in a while. Sorry for the inconvenience. I will Try to post here when I have something new going on Im not sure how this works tho because I'm new here

My point exactly. Let's get back on topic. :-) Some current favourites.. Brandy Carmella Katrina Emerald Brooklyn Jordan Do you all know about the Wednesday evening supper special? Steak and vegetables and draft beer for $6.75! A steal (before 7 only)! :-)

I would love to be unpluged! But with out the technologie, I will need to have a GF to have some fun! Until I find her, I will need to keep the phone on! Playing in the dark is much more fun with a woman to feel around!!!! It sure sucks going to the cottage without a GF! Once I find one the lakes will be a safer place for all boaters and all fish.

When you first meet one another, a very generous hug and kiss at door when you 1st meet goes a long way, and really breaks the ice.:D Generally speaking from my own experiences that 1st moment really takes the encounter to a very relaxed atmosphere which is great for both parties involved. Plus at that stage, I always hand over my envelope, to get the transaction out of the way.:) 2ndly....Some very nice two way conversation also helps you feel relaxed...who cares what you talk about..but it helps to simply relax yourself. It is not a matter of grabbing your SP's hand and take her to bedroom and wham bam thank you mam...Effection/chat really does enhance that moment. Finally when you are done your fun activities, I like to lay beside my SP, carress and chat if time permitting of course. It really seals the deal. Hopefully Cat, these are the comments you are looking for! My take on it....Pete;) ps.. your personal hygiene goes a long way!! I always clean shave my facial hair, so NO whisker burns for her both regions.I'm fully showered and smell good, if requested to take another shower at her place...not a problem. I never used foul language when meeting/during activities with an SP it is just common courtesy.Yes I know some may say...come on ------ (SP name) you like to me to fu-- you hard now don't you...sorry but that is not my way.