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I heard of CMJ a couple of years ago actually and it sounded like a whole lot of fun, but didn't really have the ovaries to do it (they're way stronger than balls ;)) One of my friends got a membership last year and was telling me all about it. How great the girls were, how much fun they have, how great the money was, how the club worked as a private, as opposed to public, and he said I would absolutely love it. I'm insanely sexual, give amazing massages and am very extroverted. I believe that there isn't enough skin to skin contact in this world and that it would be a better place if people were closer and there was sexual abundance. My university background is in human sexuality and my career background is health and fitness with an emphasis in the musculoskeletal system and anatomy, so I know my way around the body. I've always been open to different ways to express my sexual energy and this is a really great fit for me and I love what I do. I've since introduced a few other ladies to this fabulous little underground world - Bre, Mackenzie and Rini. We're all kind of blown away at how sexually and socially satisfying it is. We get the odd "bad egg" but they're really few and far between. Great topic Tryphena. It's nice to share in our pleasures!

Even if money was the first reason someone decided to do this, it would not be the reason they would continue to do this.

I am still figuring out this website. Been giving deep tissue massages, sensual massage for 3 years now. I'm an ex dancer. I'm more private. How did I bounce from dancer, to a masseuse ? Well truth be told, I'm a hands on person. I study in medical esthetics and added to that Cosmetology, and majored in Sterilization of Medical Instruments. And Oh ya and also took massage classes when I lived in Belgium ( Best Experience EVVEEERRRRR) Massaging people never gets tiring to me, I love being able to make someone smile, be at ease and zen, especially when you know what you are doing. I love doing it with slow old school R&B jams, or jazzy music. This was never forced to me, I've always been independent. I just wonder, how girls jump into this field? Is always about money? ( I support all women in this field & the escorting field. Do What you want & do what you please, because there is no one who will be willing to help you, as much as you will for yourself ) Tryphena xoxoxox

I'm fortunate enough to not have a "lifestyle" to support. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. My "day job" pays the majority of my bills. Right now a lot of my extra cash goes to training for said "day job", travel, paying off my student loans, and stashing it away for a raining day.

I am sure a lot of girls here might be surprised to see the conditions that some girls work in... not every girl works in a fancy spa or a nice new condo... i would bet every guy here has seen at least one girl who clearly does this for the money!

Malibu and I had this conversation last week. The input is candid and valued and I'm grateful to each and everyone of you that chimed into the conversation. Here are my thoughts on some of the things posted. I can really only speak from my personal experience at CMJ, as it's the only place I've ever "worked": Privacy: walking into the building - our building has the right amount of people coming and going for it to be comfortable and there is zero labeling on the outside of the building at all that it contains a Hostess Lounge. If there was a beaming sign outside that said "you sexy neighborhood rub n tug" I could see it being a bit horrifying. meeting someone in the hall - an incredibly rare occurrence that we, as hostesses, try to prevent at all costs. Sometimes I wish it wasn't so awkward shuffling someone back into a room, but we usually just laugh it off. We peek into the hallways and can hear the doors open and close so we typically know if someone is wandering the halls. cameras - we have cameras only in common areas and definitely not in the rooms or bathrooms. That's for our safety and security, not for our pervy viewing pleasure ;). Experience: bonding with your MA - I absolutely love getting to know my guests. Do all indies take the time to get to know you? I would say some do and some don't. I think it's the same with a spa. Thankfully we have CERB so we can chit chat about what you like prior to a session. Longer sessions are also very accommodating to cerebral massage. clock watching - even when we're having a great time (which is most of the time) we still have to be mindful of the time. If you're concerned for time, we encourage you to book more time. I/we want you to have the best experience and enjoy yourself and not all of us are made with exceptional internal clocks. Sometimes we're booked back to back, sometimes we're not and have a bit more leeway with time. I'm mutually concerned with not being late for my next appointment and making sure my current guest doesn't feel rushed (which I don't like either.) Concern for the MA: scheduling her own time - for the most part, we make our own schedules. If we need to be somewhere before or after and it's not a common last-minute occurrence, Jasmine says "no problem." If we want to run down the street to grab a coffee, bite to eat, or shop at bit, we do that too and give her a heads up that we're stepping out so she can let the members know we'll need a few minutes to get back. I've even gone to yoga class in the middle of a shift because it wasn't particularly busy and there were enough ladies on to cover. I can't speak for other spas, but CMJ is very accommodating. I even book sessions when I'm not scheduled because I can :) making sure she gets all the proceeds - to be completely blunt: this is our choice to make. The MAs that work in an establishment do so for a variety of reasons: safety, security, marketing, camaraderie (which is big for us), having a set schedule, not dealing with "idiots", not having overhead, running much smaller risks both personally, legally and financially, and the list goes on. If you're concerned for us and are staying away because we might get a smaller paycheck, we're definitely going to have a smaller pay check if you don't come see us at all. WealthyCowboy is very kind and generous to tip well, but we understand that isn't an option for everyone. Having heard the indy/spa discussion from a hobbyist's perspective, I definitely have a better understanding, so again, thank you for sharing. Malibu, thank you for asking. I could sped some light on team spa ;) Mad love, Gwen xoxo

There are a few of us that are bisexual in real life. Myself, Jessica(Massage), and Mackenzie (she's new and not on CERB yet) for sure and quite a few are heteroflexible (meaning they're mainly into men but play with women too.) None of us are all business either lol we have a lot of fun. :)

Great thoughts to all that are able to attend the social this evening. I know that I would like to have been able to get to the big city to enjoy the evening with you, but alas, it was not possible this time. Congrats to mistert and Loneskater for all of their efforts. For those that know me feel free to spread some kisses and hugs around in my name. Have fun!!!!!

On December 6th, 1989 the events of the Ecole Polytechnique massacre in Montreal unfolded. It is indeed ironic and sad that on the 25th anniversary of the day that women were killed for choosing a career in engineering that the Canadian government is bringing Bill C-36 into law. It has not gone unnoticed by me that at least some sex workers have dubbed this law as the Pickton Model- a model that will be setting some women up for violence. I have been pretty well absent from Cerb for the last six weeks due primarily to illness as I hardly felt up to even looking in. Now that I am able to do so, and following a six week hiatus, it is quite noticeable to me the change in tone regarding this law and its potential impact. As is probably quite understandable the discussion has become very much on a personal note, where individuals are looking primarily at themselves and no longer at the overall picture. Despite everything that I wrote several months ago, where I was undoubtedly looked at as one of the paranoid and as a naysayer, I do tend to agree that most of us here with exercise of due caution and care are probably not going to be impacted too much. I do however have WAY less trust in police and law enforcement than what seems to be the consensus. I began this post with the Ecole Polytechnique paragraph because what I have found that has totally disappeared from this discussion thread in the past six weeks are concerns for the women and other sex workers who work the streets and those who are forced by their individual dire circumstances to take chances and who are probably not working this trade as their first choice of employment. If and when this law is challenged in the Supreme Court it will probably only be after a long period of time during which many of these women will be abused, injured and killed. It will be those statistics and that data that will overturn this law. Yes, reality for each of us on an individual personal level has kicked in, as it should, but let us not forget the many who are not as fortunate as we may be. Financial donations and support to groups such as POWER, PIVOT, Maggies and others will be critical in helping to protect all sex workers and to assist in a challenge that will ultimately happen well down the road. On MY personal level and very luckily for me, I LOVE and adore cuddling and social interaction. As always this is just my own unique view on whats going on, be it right or wrong.

When writing a pm, email or texting, please do not send one liners! Many times, it come across as being rude. Ive been on the recieving end of this threw txting, hence the reason why I do not text anymore to make a 1st appointment! WE can not hear your tone of voice, so when you send something like this: "WHEN CAN I SEE YOU?" It just sounds rude. First off, INTRODUCE yourself! Say hello, how are you, I am Mr.XXX. The reason why you are emailing or pm'ing: I am interested in meeting with you on this date and time for this long. A little about yourself, if your comfortable saying anything, some ladies actually request that you do, some don't. Then sign off... Looking forward to hearing from you, Until we meet, or what ever. When you write an actual pm or email, we WILL respond! When I see something that is not like the above described, I dont even want to put in the effort to respond, since you did not take the effort to say more than 3 or 4 words to me! And I am sure I am not the only lady that feels like that! And most importantly!! Read her Ads, website and profile!! They are very imformative. Hence the reason why we put so much effort into them! The effort your going to put in by pm'ing "Whats your rates?", "What time do you start?", or the big question, "What do you look like?" will be alot less than clicking your mouse on the link to her website/profile! You just look very lazy and disrespectful! We are not asking you to write an autobiography about yourself or a novel! 5-6 lines is not asking for much! I know some men are men of very few words, but if you cant take a few minutes to learn about us and say more then a few words, then imagin how we think the encounter will go with you?! Starting an email/pm politely can and will get you a better or if any encounter with your choosen SP/MA! ****************** I've searched and could not find a thread about etiquette on pm'ing, but found this thread, which only shows you how to START a pm: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15861 If I missed it someone let me know and Ill ask the Mod to add this post to it! Thanks, Tiffany Amber xoxo

Great to see Porscha , Felina, Kayla offering specials. These ladies know the importance of retaining customers and also creating new customers. If i have missed someone please add!

I'm having issues with the censors. I know the overall changes are a huge ordeal and pain in the ass and still a work in progress, but I think something has unintentionally gone awry. I don't appreciate the way the censors are automatically changing words to other words, and also affecting words within other words. Including not just new posts (which we can preview and change before posting as needed), but every single post on the site, and posts made weeks or months ago that we can't edit now. It's making people's posts make no sense and look like idiots. I was reading a post I made a few weeks ago that made sense at the time, and completely innocuous words I wrote are now changed to other things and what I said doesn't even make sense now, and I can't edit it. I would rather see dots everywhere and let people figure it out than see things like in-call changed to Porn-Friendly or cli-cking changed to cloading and uplo-aded changed to upfuned, cli-ckable changed to clickable (those are actual examples). Most of them don't even make sense. I accept, understand and respect the need to actually censor words, but automatically changing words to other words to in people's posts after the fact is putting words in their mouth and it's weird. There must be a solution. Also, the new words don't actually show up in the "Preview", you only see them after you actually post live.

Been wondering this myself. Although I'm new to this world there seems to be a lot of intelligent and empowered women in this business. Suppose it's like my own chosen profession. Each has their reason for trying it then each comes to their own conclusion if they will stay or try something else. Interesting how the mind works :-)

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Thanks for the info Gwen. Now I know who to have a trifecta with! You have me thinking... all three of you with me in the shower. Nice!!! Just hope you will not be more interested in each other than me! (but that would be ok too; I like to watch).

For me it was never about money. The fact that I get paid for my time is simply a bonus, means I didn't have to stay at my full time job (which I hated)

I like Xmas well enough just not fond of the crass commercialization excess it's become. I have you great nieces and nephews who receive gifts (mostly books), the adults get a bottle of wine and a thank you for their charitable contribution to Winnipeg Harvest and the Christmas Cheer Board. Personally I have more than I'll ever need so gifts are politely declined in favour of donations. Then there's always Festivus.... Peace MG

IMLO, the practical issues are a lack of evidence of illegal activity, low enforcement resources and the lack of cooperation from the judicial system. 1. It is difficult to obtain evidence without a search warrant, and a search warrant requires probable cause of illegal activity. It's like the chicken and the egg, which comes first... In the case of businesses operating in a private location, I've already covered that: it will never happen because there is no right of entry. In terms of spa's, I've said previously that private member's clubs avoid the issue and spa's open to walk-ins should IMO establish some form of intercom or door locking practices if they are raided so as to give everyone a head's up LE is there. I figure 28 seconds is enough to get dressed (just tried it). And to add on my previous post, if you are ever arrested immediately says only 4 words: ''I want a lawyer'' and shut up. No charges will stick and you'll walk away. 2. Police budgets are limited and Crown prosecutors find these types of cases childish. I know a few prosecutors in Ottawa. They are interested in serious offences, not political agendas brought forward by a conservative government that will, IMHO, fail to obtain a majority government (if any) at next year's election (FYI I have no affiliation or loyalty to any political party). Prosecutor's are generally overworked and most won't want to go to trial. 3. With regards to the judicial process, let's not forget the concept of pre-charge diversion programs (i.e. John School) to avoid ruining family lives over one moment of indiscretion. If it's your first offence, typically they will send the guys down that route. No one will know and you won't have a criminal record. Spas and Businesses may get stiffer treatment, but I sincerely doubt it as long as they stay low profile and don't employ anyone against their will. Well, it's not even 9:00am and I'm already talking about Law, so it's time for coffee now. :icon_biggrin:

would like to send out a congrats and a big thank you to the 2 guys who planning this event MRT and loneskater for a job well done and we will see you at the next event

Amazing letter from the new Toronto City Council to Premier Wynn. Wouldn't it be nice! Kudos to Toronto! It appears as if that link has been closed since I posted it early this morning. The link on Twitter posted by POWER last night is still working. I'm trying to post it as an image but no success so far. If anyone else can get it and make it available, it really is an amazing letter! Another well written article.

This is true. This, however, is not. It won't. No government is going to manage to legislate sex work out of existence. Many have tried; all have failed. They can make it more difficult, and more dangerous for all concerned, but they can't stop it. I can't help but think that they know this, and that the knowledge of their own impotence is why the abolitionists are so *angry* all the time... Let me ask you this: can you name any time and place in history where the exchange of sex for money hasn't happened, to a greater or lesser extent, irrespective of how much the government of the day approved of that or tried to stop it? This has been debated a lot in other threads elsewhere on the board over the last few months, but... suffice to say, I disagree. LE have many better things to be doing than going after consenting adults who are having fun that the pearl-clutchers in government disapprove of. Let me ask you another question: do you think that LE will enforce the new laws more zealously than the old ones? Visiting a MA at her place has always been illegal (it was being in a bawdy house under the old laws). They didn't get raided then. Why should they get raided now? Exactly the same effect as it always has done: none, because it hasn't happened, unless there was a good reason for it. And the only reason for it is that the person being raided has been indiscreet enough that the neighbors have worked out what's going on. The police work largely onteh basis of complaints, and if nobody complains then there's no need for them to do anything. The independent ladies I've met have all been concerned to ensure that they stay under the radar. Of course, it's possible that LE could decide that they want to enforce the new laws far more rigorously than they ever bothered enforcing the old ones.... but I doubt that'll happen, and I'll continue to doubt it until I see it.

Good evening everyone. Just got back from the venue a short while ago. Management has done lots to get the place ready for us and it is looking great. One note with regards to my instructions,, cash payment is preferred as they were having some issues today with CC processing. As for the evening events, we will have performers doing their thing around 9:30. We should be serving the buffet right after performers are done. Also one member has volunteered to play music for us throughout the evening. So as per the instructions we sent, doors open at 7 PM. For those making their way there, keep in mind the limo should arrive between 7:50 and 8. With 24 ppl in the limo that will create a temporary line up at the bar! Also big hockey game and possible traffic for the early birds! Hope everyone has a great time. Its xmas so we tried to make this a nice evening event! Remember about discretion especially around the bar staff. Also for those who wish we will have boxes to drop toys for toy mountain. Cute0aza0Button said she would help with toys so I am making sure mine is all ready! lol See you all tomorrow evening!

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Dear Olderguy, One of my qualities is to be deliciously playful. So you can ''be'' Santa when you visit, I will have no problem to believe you ;-) And I love gifts, so no problem there either...

I am a very curvatious model type of woman.. I love to tease but my goal is to please :) I love fantasies and role play and I offer NON-RUSHED!! I am 100% independent, love every minute of what I offer and IT SHOWES... So why settle for the rest when you can have the best :) Stats: 5'6 120 pounds C cupped chest 27 waist in-call only Available 24/7 No blocked numbers/computer

Fries, dressing and gravy. Not stuffing either, if you're a Newfoundlander, you know the difference...

I would like to add that I prefer sweet potato fries for the taste and nutrition values. I have been enjoying them every chance I get since a lovely cerb lady introduced them to me at Baton Rouge.

So looking forward to seeing everyone :)

You can certainly do that with HTML but everything here is limited to BBCode. I find pages that start playing music without asking to be annoying, particularly if you are silently surfing and forgot you had the sound turned up :)

I actually offer cuddle sessions in my massage experiences :)

Ms. Mia, Sounds like you might wish to receive one of Santa's special gifts that he reserves for the truly good girls.... Or is it the very n a u g h t y girls Santa likes to reward ? Hmm...Don't worry Ms. Mia. Santa Claus will be "coming" to town ������

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Bonsoir messieurs, Come see me tonight between 6pm and 11pm. I will drive you crazy I.promise, you.wont be able to resist me.... I am an experienced MA and very talented with more than my hands. Let me take you to heaven ...... specials on 30 minutes session xoxox 613-820-8887

I kinda like home made fries fresh cut and cooked on the deck and served with a nice steak. Just my Opinion

Favourite places for the best fries.... The Anchor bar in Buffalo and Webers on H,way 11. May be how they're cooked or where I'm at but love them

I visit the chip truck periodically for fries or poutine, but not all trucks are created equal and it takes a bit of sleuthing to find the good ones. If their fat isn't hot enough or they don't use the right type of potato then it can be disappointing. Frozen ones just don't cut the mustard. They have to have a bit of crispiness on the outside and have the right fluffy texture on the inside.

Just so long as that first impression isn't a bad Christopher Walken. Nothing kills the mood like a bad Christopher Walken impression. Now, if it is a solid one, especially with the new Peter Pan Live show airing this week, if can start things off great.

They need to be fried in beef fat. Unfortunately you almost never get that these days; it makes them non-vegetarian and even more unhealthy than they'd otherwise be. But when you get it, it's soooo gooooood.....

Sorry but because of the new laws we must ask everyone to read this thread before using the site. New rules are in place on ALL of the website. You CAN NOT post any ADVERTISEMENTfor PROSTITUTION services (No Sexual Services) as the government of Canada has changed the laws making it illegal to do the following .... Websites can no longer allow anyone to advertise sexual services for sale It is now illegal to pay someone for sexual services It is still legal to advertise the following... ESCORTS: Escorts are people who go on PAID DATES. Being an "ESCORT" does not imply sex or sexual acts are included in the time paid for. Escorts can legally advertise service as long as the services you are offering are NOT sexual services. Escorts can advertise services such as private exotic dancing, massage, dinner dates, companionship, cuddling, kissing, etc... MASSAGE: Massage spas and indie massage can still advertise as long as they are not offering any sexual services including happy endings! We are not sure yet if that is going to be considered a sexual service so for now please no offers of happy endings or any other type of sexual services. FETISH: Fetish providers can offer NON SEXUAL fetish services such as bondage, xdressing, spanking, tickling, etc... but can not advertise such things that could be considered a sexual acts GUYS: You can NOT ask for help finding someone offering sexual services anymore. You can also not post about a lady who offered you sexual services. CENSORSHIP & REPORTING OFFENDERS: The site censors a lot of ADULT words these days. We are doing this to make sure no one gets in trouble and we are trying to train everyone who advertises that these new laws are now in effect and sexual services can no longer be advertised. By advertising a sexual service you could potentially get the site in trouble so if you see someone CIRCUMVENTING the censor system or trying to HINT that something "MORE" is available please use the REPORT POST button to let us know. All offending posts and advertisements will be removed when reported. We (The mods) do not have time to read every post but we do attend to all REPORTED POSTS so please help us and your community here by reporting any offending post. We will show our gratitude as well and reward your account with some reputation points.

I also have been to hotels along Pembina. Easier for me when coming in from south of Winnipeg.

Prefer downtown. Central. Posted via Mobile Device

Not sure this will qualify - pan-fried potatoes with garlic sauce at a Shawarma place.... absolutely delicious!

Hailey is pretty amazing as well but tiny

Whether your personal rules allow for caring and connection or are limited to enjoyments of the senses, I will sync my energies with yours and provide personalized ministrations to those areas requiring warm careful attention. My hands dance lightly over your skin, instigating need and sensation. Whether your engagement centers on relaxation and stress relief or on playful interactions, I will plunge you into pleasure. Warm, welcoming, fully embrasive of you. Let's entwine our energies for a little while. Availability this week. Pre-booking is preferred

I believe DD Emma is close to that area, as is LuxeMulvari.

My addition, is that since discussing services etc in public settings is illegal, you are opening yourself up to a potential for charges. Further, you are allowing him to control this set up, meaning that once you set up a public meeting, he is free to tweet out to 20 of his closest friends, one of whom is in the corner filming the entire encounter to put it on youtube. Non appt public meetings are unnecessary. If you feel wary enough to even consider having to meet someone first, then simply decline the appt. There is such a thing as bad money.

Welcome to the board, Carrie! I hate to be the bearer of bad news (and I may be wrong), but I suspect most ladies won't answer this in public. They all have their ways of screening potential clients and things they do to ensure their own safety, but those won't be revealed here as they generally don't want to make it easier for the undesirable would-be clients to circumvent them. The board has a SP-only section, where I'm sure these things do get discussed more openly - the FAQ has details on how to get access. That might be your best bet.

Good girl LOL.....you get what you give right?

Ahhh, the ?tipping? debate! I noticed there was a decided void in SP response so I will take a minute to share my thoughts? From an agency girl perspective, tipping is often a way to generate extra income because after they pay the agency and the driver, they usually end up on the short end of the stick. 10 years ago, I ran for an agency, we collected $260 for an hour, with $110 going to the house, $40-$100 to the driver depending on where the visit was located, which left me maximum of $110 with as little as $10 in my pocket. With a $15 book on fee and mandatory car cell phone fees of $25 per night, I needed 3 full fees per night to make working worthwhile, God forbid I get credit card calls, which somehow always worked out us getting nothing. We were not allowed to refuse a call so we had to find creative ways to ensure we were paid. Tipping for extra service was the only way to keep our heads above water. The nice thing was that we had a shift, we worked, and we went home and had a life. That said, it was unfair to the guest who would end up with less than what he expected because he was not prepared for the extra fees. Independents are in a slightly different boat. We usually have a higher upfront fee, but we also assume ALL the costs incurred, which is far more than many realize. If we charged what we feel we should to get our ROI, the protests would be heard long and loud. Many Indies have a smaller bottom line than an ambitious girl at a well run agency. So when it comes to tips, many things need to be considered. In the south, SP's are tipped much in the same manner as a restaurant. Anyone walking a restaurant wouldn?t consider walking out without leaving a tip if everything was satisfactory. I tip everyone in the service industry, from the girl who washes my hair, to the man at Suny?s who pumps my gas because a little bit from many adds up at the end of the day. Flowers and trinkets are lovely in thought, but a girl can?t deposit wilted stems into an RRSP, and my bank doesn?t seem to take dildos, massage oil, garter belts or silk stockings on deposit -go figure! As Joyful C has so wisely stated, most SP?s live a fragile existence financially. We provide an illusion of playful luxury for our guests benefit, but rest assured, 90% of the time it is smoke and mirrors. Behind the scenes we struggle to pay our bills, put diapers on our babies and try to take care of those we love, all the while working on a way to get to a normal existence if that does in fact even exist. An extra $20 from each client equals a full appointment by the end of the week, and at the end of the month that pays the cell phone, buys the groceries and lets us take the little ones away for the weekend after we have paid both rents (home and incall), all our advertising, babysitters, hydro, car repairs, personal maintenance and the same expenses everyone else has. Not to mention the monthly payments on augmentation, lifts, tucks and anything else to keep us up to the exceptionally high standards expected if we want to continue making money in this arena. There are few SP?s who can keep up the daily client service to ensure long term financial viability in this business because of the emotional and physical toll this business extracts which sometimes means extended time offs to get our heads, hearts and bodies back in order. We have no paid holidays, benefits or paid personal days. If there is a crisis that forces us to take time off, we lose money and clients which often means we work regardless of illness, pain or any other of lifes challenges. Each SP has her own reasons for working, but the universal element is that we all are trying to achieve some sort of financial stability. I never expect tips, and I can count on one hand how many I have received since my arrival in Canada because of the nature of the business here. Hate to tell you guys, but Canadian men are not known for their generous nature, they rank a close second to Germans in this realm (I think the outlandishly high taxes inflicted in both countries has something to do with it!). I would never expect a tip from guests that have me on retainer, I see them weekly. But unless you are going to be a bankable commodity in a SP?s life, a tip relative to the quality of service is a sure way to say thank you and have her know you mean it... Catherine