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I have heard back from this MIA SP. She is alright and assured me that I don't need to worry about her.

I really feel genuinely uncomfortable with your post, stating that a large majority of us SP's are drug users and addicts. Being someone who just doesn't feel comfortable working a vanilla job and thoroughly enjoys sex, I am really offended. You may have had some bad experiences in the past but to lump all of us together as users and abusers just doesn't seem fair. I have student loans to pay off, not drug debts. I was in school to be a veterinary technician. Not a drug user. Additional Comments: I'm commenting again because I'm actually having a really hard time letting go of this horrible accusation. I do this line of work so that I can spend time with myself, my family and my dog. So that I can pay rent to live in a downtown apartment and pay off my student loans. I post on Lyla, and backpage multiple times a day, every day. That doesn't mean that I receive clients all the time. I've don't usually take more than a handful of them a week. If I'm lucky to even receive that many who are actually interested in seeing me without lowballing. I'm sorry that someone hurt you, I wish that I could fix it for you but you don't need to take it out on the rest of the girls who are just trying to make a living.

That's disgusting. I can count the couple times I double booked and it took place during my introduction to then industry AND whole at a spa once upon time so it truly came down to too many cooks in the kitchen (doing my own advertising & booking at the same time as the secretary doing that job too) Now fully INDEPENDENT My mistakes aren't double booking but can be felt or affected by the same way- and that's when I am late due to allergy to clocks and that's great when you're with me but not if it happens to be when I'm eating chocolate Or in the shower or flipping a record and lost in my head or looking for it. WITH THAT SAID - I have NEVER ever made a mistake that I didn't offer attempts made to redeem myself and the entirety of that shit luck fuckery- whether by extending time, reducing rate/refunding prepay/rescheduling to suit their schedule/ etc etc . But keeping focus on the fact that a business is a business is a business you can treat even unfortunate circumstance as such business minded redemptions and at the end of the day - you have smoothed out a potential soured client and all the bad word of mouth that can come from just one negative experience OR worse- NOTHING EVER SAID OF YOUR NAME, and by taking ownership it can lead to a real possibility of a regular friend and a heightened appreciation/respect for yourself AS WELL AS THE CLIENT - IF IT AFFECTS YOUR INCOME/TIME /CONSCIENCE by making it right - YOU'LL MAKE BETTER MISTAKES TOMORROW! :) KK GTG .... he's been waiting for me while I write this. Bahahahahaha jusssst kiddddding...... {ish} ha! ;)

this is a no-go situation at the incall. i dont want to elaborate much more but i cant think of a worse situation. If youre going to go for it, go for outcall, but even then im not sure its worth it and i dont attest to your safety. I visited but didnt stay for 10 seconds and tipped a bit because i felt really bad... Do not PM for details, i want to forget this one

Redneck word of the day...... "Far" It's so cold out today, I'm going to start a Far ...:p

Last Thursday, April 20, around 1-2 PM: Alex , Kyla (might be the same others have called Skyla?), Kylie, Lexi, Maya, Selina, Tasha, Velinda and a blonde who previously went by Emma at Playmate. I recognized her but I don't know if she's still using the same name at Pigale. I went to the cr with Velinda and she was even better than the last time.

I have had clients I see every week for multiple hours during the years. They were/are my best clients and I will always bend my schedule to accommodate theirs. They are the President(s) of my VIP club. A lot of my time is spent catering to them. In these cases, there is no contract but a promise of them expressing that they want to meet every week and this isn't something they say and not do. They actually follow through. So you begin to take them seriously as you can trust their word. In this situation, they get more time with me instead of a rate reduction because they will be visiting every week. Without going into private details, I am more generous with my time as not all time is spent in the bedroom but the rate itself is NEVER lowered. With other gentleman who visit every week, there has been an agreed upon rate and some don't have qualms discusssing it. Other gentlemen I haven't discussed rates and it is nothing below that I was receiving the first time we met for a couple of hours.. I have been taken on trips for the weekend ( with a special weekend rate) with second row seats to a favorite performer, spa days, given very expensive gifts so I am very generous with my time. Many times I cook lunch or dinner for them, buy them gifts for their birthday.. I will do a healing meditation, long massage or listen to anything they would like to talk about or what is on their mind at any particular time. This could be viewed as a Mistress type relationship but not quite. I appreciate them and they appreciate me. There is a very hightrust level that has been established in terms of being a confidante to them..They are very kind and generous and I'm the same with them. I believe they have come into my life for a reason and I've appeared in their life to help them. When the chemistry and connection is great, these arrangements tend to just fall into place. This is a rarity but it can happen. I could not do this with all clients as the chemistry really has to be there. The chemistry is different when you spend an hour with someone as opposed to hours or days although they are both there. We become friends, text here and there throughout the week and tend have a lot in common. I could spend hours and hours with them and it always goes by way too fast. Some of them I have a friendship on a soul level and care for them deeply but they know the boundaries. I am there to help them with what they are missing with their existing partner or their life in general. Nothing happens outside the SP-client relationship and it works for both of us.

My benefits with repeat visits with the same SPs have occurred in a few different ways. This one is obviously only when time permits for both of us. I usually always book one hour or longer visits when repeating with an SP. If I'm ready to leave after 45-50 minutes I won't always lay there or try to make sure that I am there for the full 60 minutes. Sometimes I know I'm there for a little over an hour but she doesn't rush me out. Her benefit occurs on occasion. When the hour is near she has softly said to me, "Feel like one more?" Sometimes I have the time and sometimes I don't. I never expect it but when it is asked and I do have the time... how sweet it is!!! With a second it is pretty simple. She offers a service as an extra. When I know I want it when I get there I include it in the envelope. On occasion when I don't include it she will turn to me and offer it. Again, sometimes I accept and sometimes I don't. (Ok so I do most times.) With another provider, and this has only occurred once. The benefit was a pleasant surprise. As I came in and placed the envelope and walked to the living area she came right up behind me and handed me back the envelope and said, "No need for this one." Have I ever expected since, no! If it occurs again will I be thankful, of course. With some others I never had any benefits but it never stopped me from seeing them. Really, it doesn't matter how one would prefer to show appreciation for repeat clients as there is no wrong here. With those who do show appreciation, does it entice me to or subconsciously make me want to see them more than others who haven't? Yes, it does.

If you are looking for Asian sp in Downtown Toronto, Rachel (http://rachel9285.escortbook.com/) should be on the top of your list. This girl is the hidden gem. She has something special what makes us to come and see some particular provider again. Rachel is really attractive physically: pretty face, nice smile, excellent model type body with nicely shaped full size breast but many girls have all this. What separates her from many other women in this business is her passion and ability of being natural. She makes you believe that she has a good time and enjoys being with you, she is completely into it. That is something what cannot be imitated or learned - girl or has it or not. She is very responsive - you will know if she enjoys herself - and energetic partner who likes different positions and let you know what is the most pleasant. And her massage is way above average, better than with many professionals, plan HH for massage if you into it. I have been "in touch" with escorting for more than twenty years. I have met women of all possible races, skin colors, body types, and personalities. And I think this girl could be a real star in this business if her English were better.

Did a search on tineye. Here's what I found: First pic: milan.skipthegames.com Filename: f01265cc4ecdf464db0f2f8b16f9b3a2.jpg Also found on http://www.suggest-keywords.com Filename: 4310914e2b64878f2baf8c91a80b2b85.jpg AND thechive.com Filename: 4310914e2b64878f2baf8c91a80b2b85.jpg Second pic found on http://www.cityvibe.com Filename: stockton-escorts-outcallsnow-2090015.jpg That's enough to convince me they are fake.

Making someone's eyes roll in the back of their head. Lol

i have to say that not all sps are like that, but also not all sps are actively organized with their booking/appt setting process. i have talked to some who don't even know the # of the person making the appt, because they received a few or did the texting, and finally one shows up to confirm to get the address so that is the one getting the address. never mind that maybe you called first , and arrived 5 minutes later for a pre set appt time. of course the alternative is have a notebook, write down time of call, #, time for appt, get their ETA and/or travel time, and promise to that time to that person, while the next caller wanting the same time is told he can wait until the next available, get called back, or call back in X amount of time incase guy #1 doesn't show up. but people aren't often that organized when they do short notice appts, so theyll just take whoever shows up at the 'go here' spot and contacts them first, rather than tell them a reasonable next available time. then there is the obvious, OMG SHE'S WRITING DOWN THE PHONE # AND KEEPING IT hysterical reaction to the very idea so many sps are super paranoid about even doing that much. but without scheduling, and making notes, and noting the ph#s, how else is this supposed to go other than pure chaos, wishful thinking, and good luck. especially if they are in hotels, they can't afford to not take everyone, and run the risk someone is sitting outside having just waited too long to contact her to say he was 2 minutes away rather than right in the parking spot.

I doubt most guys have a "budget" but simply seek an escort when the mood is right and have some extra cash.

Does anyone else have this happen to them? You make contact with a lady and make plans to meet up for a certain time. Then when the time comes you try to contact them and do not get a response. Or if you do get a response it goes something like "i can see you in a while..." I usually just end up telling them to just forget it. I mean i am a fairly busy person and have to plan a visit pretty carefully, so it is pretty annoying when this happens. For me its happened no less than 4 times in the last little while. At first I did not think much of this situation until I determined what was actually happening. A few SPs here it seems are just making multiple appointments (like double or triple booking or more) with whoever they happen to be talking to at the time. Then i guess it is just a matter of who gets there first lol. So even though you thought you had made a firm time to meet up, if you dont actually get there before the other person(s) then too bad for you. The way I found this out was very disconcerting too. I had made plans with someone very late at night and was going to the address that was given me. Literally seconds before I going to pull in to the parking lot another vehicle pulled in before me. I knew something was weird as what were the chances that someone else not related to the situation would be pulling in there at the same time in the middle of the night. So I decided to go around the block and sure enough the person went up to the address i was given. I then tried to send a msg and did not get a resonse until about a half hr later saying sry but I had another date. This could have been a very awkward maybe even dangerous situation. I mean I do not want to see anyone else or bump into anyone else except the SP when meeting up. So I suppose I know why certain SPs would do this and I realize that there are timewasters/noshows/gameplayers out there for them but I think this practice is asinine. For me personally, when I make an appointment, it is firm and i am 99 percent going to be there. For the 1 percent that i something happens that i cannot make it, I will for sure to msg them to let them know. Anyway, curious to see if this is commonly happening to others here - not that there is much that we can do about it lol.

I recently had a friend say to me that if the good feelings in regards to a partner didn't hurt when we lost them we would take these feelings for granted. (Thx DM) Another saying is that all good things must come to an end. Even still, finding those ones that really make you feel special and feel like you are on top of the world even after you leave are precious. We shouldn't fear them, we should embrace them. It is so seldom that we find these people with whom we connect on so many levels that I am quickly starting to realize that the ones who I don't click with I no longer have time for. Whether you prefer to have one, two, three or more doesn't matter. What matters is that when you do find those you really connect with repeat, repeat, repeat! Wisdom does not come with age, it comes from experience and mistakes.

Who are we talking about here

Nice idea. Box board might do the trick. I could include a link to a PDF so you could cut one out of whatever material you wanted.

Emma Alexandra Visiting April 25-28th I will awaken your senses. Arouse your appetite for lust and passion. My sensuality runs deep. My passion is strong. You will swell to my delicate touch. Tremble as I tantalize you with my tongue. A memory you will not forget. The ultimate GFE. I'm your mature companion. I stand 5'4" with a voluptuous body. Everything is real... wink! My personality, warmth, and affection are genuine and seriously contagious. I'm a sparkle of sunshine. I love to love! kisses, Emma

They have a nice look. They look sharp! Tin is a great product. Don't know how feasible it is but perhaps some type of insert or permanent interior casing that could/would prevent loud clicking sounds caused from hard objects hitting against the sides of the container that would occur when someone takes a step. (ie. lighter, small pipe) Maybe a luxury edition...

I haven't decided if the dispenser is a card with the cord wrapped around it or a bottle to pull it from. The bottle would take care of some of those issues. Here is a pic of the case I have in mind. It should hold a standard BIC lighter.

http://i.imgur.com/190wz.gif

I second you completely on that. She's a lovely and delightful young lady, I happily take her for dances whenever I see her, which isn't that often. She seems to consistently be in on Saturday afternoons. Great recommendation, H&K!

Hi there, thank you for checking my ad. You will not be disappointed with my A+++ massage... My name is Vivian. I'm 28 years old. Gorgeous, i am a classy looking Lady with long black hair, seductive cat eyes ...., beautiful silky soft, tanned skin. work out body with all the right curves in the right places. You have finally met your dream girl... I great you at the door with a lovely smile then lead you to the massage room...I will start with a deep soothing tissue massage to relax all your muscles then follow with a soft touch to invigorate your whole body then the fun time ... It will be the most relaxing, creative and passionate session for you ever. So amazing that you cannot help yourself from thinking about it and want to come back for more ! http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92146 For relaxing massage $40/30m $50/45m $70/60m appointment only, call/text me at 6l3 7l2 l2OO mon to sat 10am to 7pm

I was contemplating a visit too but "party favours" in any ad gives me pause. Glad I didn't take the plunge after hearing this.

As a longtime customer I take everything I hear with a very large grain of salt, but last night I heard - from a reliable girl - about a recent, petty incident involving a member of the staff, not a dancer. Now the cameras have been there a long time, and I've gotten away with a lot of shit. But now I have confirmation that yep, someone seems to be obsessing over even the least little things these days.

Emma Alexandra I will awaken your senses. Arouse your appetite for lust and passion. My sensuality runs deep. My passion is strong. You will swell to my delicate touch. Tremble as I tantalize you with my tongue. A memory you will not forget. The ultimate GFE. I'm your mature companion. I stand 5'4" with a voluptuous body. Everything is real... wink! My personality, warmth, and affection are genuine and seriously contagious. I'm a sparkle of sunshine. I love to love! kisses, Emma see details at: http://www.emmaalexandrapage.co

She worked for years at ALO Bank St. location. This should help a bit. http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104284&highlight=Laney As always, if you want info on the Ottawa scene, Whitman is your man. I myself never had a session with her as she is just not my type but no doubt a very nice lady.

yow, I am having fun! I saw Claire again last week and kablooey! Bam! Ha-cha-cha-cha! The girl is the uber bomb and I can't wait to get back there. Damn, superfine. A wicked sense of humour, too There are not enough hours in the day... Please don't make an appointment when I want one, you selfish bastards.

Regent 1) Please provide info on what you say have been body rub raids in Toronto. I know most of the owners. There have been issues with illegal Holistic Health Centers which are not licensed to do massage, with bylaw enforcement (not criminal) but not licensed adult body rubs that I know about i.e. Allure, SRM, etc. I would like to research what information you have. Likewise the zillions of agencies, incalls etc have had no reported C36 issues. The Russian agencies that use to be run by the mafia have closed but the gals were not in any trouble a few years ago. 2) It is not naive to think LE is taking hands off approach to non-street sexwork when major police chiefs issued press releases in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal soon after C36 was law. I know Winnipeg and Edmonton are more conservative. Edmonton requires escorts to have licensees as does Victoria B.C. However incalls were welcome in downtown Victoria long before it was legal under C36. The incalls use to be in Saanich until the Sheriff notified them they should move to Victoria. My only personal focus is Toronto. 3) Yes, the sex work law reforms groups of course also seek to decrim private sexwork. The reason they have always failed in the U.S. is because they INCLUDE street work which is a public nuisance. Most all Canadian cities to John stings of street work which is a totally different issue than private. Of course, the sex worker's rights groups don't think it is a public nuisance but the public and police do. Headlines in New Zealand just in the past week include: "Residents are finding used condoms in hedges and sanitary wipes in letter boxes, while construction workers have stood on needles. Resident Matt Bonis addressed a Christchurch City Council meeting today. He said people living on the corner of Manchester St and Purchas St were exposed to abuse from sex workers, robberies, littering of drug paraphernalia and even faeces on lawns." - Metro News NZ 4/6/2017 "We've had litter, we've had vandalism ..." Radio New Zealand - "Central Christchurch residents say they are under siege from sex workers, and one is threatening legal action if the city council does nothing." 4/17/2017 "Christchurch residents fed up with sex workers on the streets" - Family First org.nz 4/6/2017 The sexwork organization seem to be yelling, "Citizens be damned - we want to have the right to be a public nuisance on the streets!" 4) Of course, social programs to help issues of poverty, TS discrimination, etc. etc. etc. is needed. However, that is a totally different issue that public nuisance street hookers. Neighborhoods are tired of seeing condoms, drug needles or women afraid to walk around without being harassed by men looking for hookers. 5) I agree clients could be more active for getting rid of C36 related to non-street work. However, since it still has moral implications for many they are hesitant to become involved. Many have wives and families that they hide their activities from. In the U.S. private sexworkers other than a few don't want the legal exposure since we have a far more repressive system in the U.S. vs Canada. 6) Yes, the "victim" industry is strong both in the U.S. and Canada. The anti's have huge funding, religious backing and since they think they are fighting to "save" poor helpless abused sexworkers don't have supposed "righteousness" on their side vs the negative moral stigma. 7) Various polls and surveys in the U.S. depending on how its worded basically support not wasting LE resources going after in private consenting adults. But as soon as you include street work, the results have been overwhelmingly negative - for good reason... PUBLIC NUISANCE. Just like the uproar in New Zealand and pressure to re-criminalize street work.

I have met many new providers that I would like to repeat with. But not enough time and money. It's taking me longer to be able to repeat with some of the women that I have met a while back ago. But if they are great kissers and the chemistry is there. I shall return sometime. And if I have a awesome experience I will be back as soon as I can :)

HEY! How about my bum....... Does it deserve being on this thread too? If not... Sorry! :D

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http://halifax.backpage.ca/FemaleEscorts/b-%CE%B5-a-u-i-f-u-l-classy-made-for-your-pleasure-%CF%84%CE%B8%CF%81-q%CF%85%CE%B1l%CE%B9%CF%84%CE%B3/2199639 Went to see this girl last week. I shot her a text and she got back to me pretty quickly. We set a time and I went to the building. Lives in a very nice building and a nice apartment. I booked 1/2hr for 120. The service was good. she seems to enjoy what she does. She gives amazing oral. All service was safe, so no bbbj (would rather bare, but she is still great at it). Main event we did a number of positions and she was into it. or at least made me feel like she was. the pics are not her (shocker), She is a pretty girl, shes busty and curvy, but a lil heavier all around than the pics suggest. she was polite and sweet and easy to talk to. She doesn't give her name on the ad so, I'll let you ask her name when you call. Maybe it would be fine, but she doesn't have it posted so I'll leave it out. Hope that helps

This discussion is interesting but should probably go in the general Barb's thread rather than this one devoted to the lovely Phoenix. Thanks.

No wonder we are a healthy bunch in here! :biggrin:

I'm sorry to inform the pics are fake. The first is from a provider on BP available in Ottawa today, she also works in Montreal. The second pic is a cropped pic a few of us have seen before in Ottawa. The third pic I don't recognize at the moment. (but have seen it before)Try running in through tineye-dot-com.

I've never had it happen, but it's definitely not an acceptable practice. It's very considerate of you not to mention her name, btw. I'm sure she appreciates it.

I know some SP's do this because of really bad time wasters, and in terms of loss, you're losing an appointment but she's losing rent/grocery/etc money, right? So while infuriating it may help to think she's just trying to maintain her livelihood, and nothing against you. (If you've noticed, this trend likely started around the same time as some review boards started excitedly talking about fakebooking women... they claim only for B&S girls, but you can't always be sure.) HOWEVER to that effect what might help her secure your appt is some form of offered reference? If you have another reputable girl vouching for you, or you give her all her screening info and she still throws you off for another appt, then that might be a lost cause. I dunno how to help you there :-( Maybe call before you've driven anywhere to be sure? And if she doesn't respond, don't go... I would hate having to also make my way out to see someone and have them essentially disappear. /-:

And some of us are in Ottawa ;)

Lol some of us do tour to Ottawa

The formula usually works like this: Compelling Pictures + Stellar Reviews = Great Experience. I do my very best to "do my homework" before each date, and I did my due diligence on Teena @ Mirage. Certainly her photos were very tempting. The reviews from her work in Toronto were quite outstanding. So I arrived today with great anticipation, and Teena was amazing! She has a Vietnamese heritage, but her english is impeccable. This is her second visit to Ottawa (I was out of town for the first) and she hopes to come back every 3-4 weeks. I have chided myself lately in not taking enough time to just "enjoy the view," so I made an extra effort today. Teena has lovely features including the cutest dimples on both sides of her cheeks. We hear the phrase "kissable lips," and that is a good description of this lovely lady. The greeting kiss was very passionate, and it only got better from there. Her gorgeous face matches an exemplary, toned, spinner body. It was a superb "girlfriend" experience! Teena has such a pleasant, sweet demeanor. I cannot imagine packing more pleasure into 30 minutes. I will happily see her again when she returns!

Women who really like me and are great kissers. Thet do their best to fit me in their schedules. They keep in touch and seem to remember our conversations. And they are do much fun and relaxed when we spend timentogether