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I discovered a while ago that age and experience are not necessarily proportional. I met 19yo young women and SP's who displayed a lot of experience after being sexually active for many years, while some women in their 40's are just starting to experience more after being stuck in a marriage with years of passionless missionary sex. Same goes with the passion. No matter the attraction and experience, if the chemistry is not there, the session will be at best "average". But sometimes a revisit can spark a completely different experience. One example was with a 20yo SP I met. Her body was very fit and perfect(and I'm not, quite far from it) and on the first session it was a bit cold between us. We went through the motion, barely said a word and was a short session. Weeks later, seen her ad and pictures again and asked her if she did oil wrestling sessions. She wasn't sure and I provided her with video links and pictures and she actually got excited about the idea. So we set a few ground rules and met again. It was like being with a completely different woman. She was smiling, was excited and even kissed me as I was hugging her into submission. It was great. No matter the age, the chemistry and context can make all the difference between an average and great experience.

A client should never put his foot in his mouth and say idiotic or derogatory things to an SP. You can never unring a bell. I've gotten rid of some clients after they put their foot in their mouth out of the blue one day and my respect for them was lost forever. Get comfortable with an SP but not too comfortable. A client should never try to be funny in a mean spirited or demeaning way or pushing the boundaries by trying to give an SP advice particularly about our business and how "unsafe" it is. We are offering a service, not here to be lectured. In the end, these types of clients come off looking like foolish jerks.

Oh my god, if you ever want to redo that leave me a message lol. Wrestling and pinning down, I am going to soak the entire floor lol. I don't know if you will succeed pinning me down though, but it would be fun trying ;)

It is great that hobbyists can have girls for every tastes. Every providers offer a slightly different service as well :) It must also be hard to decide to go to see a SP or a MA. I don't know if I could make a choice, personally. So I thanks my regulars for picking me :)

Well, Someguy, your contributions to several discussions on Lyla are always great and I hope you'll continue to do so for many years :). I've been a member for around 4 years now and read a lot of your stuffs. At first, I stayed quiet for the vaste majority of it, read many threats without commentating. For me, Lyla is a "more secure" environment where I will look and valid infos took elsewhere about ladies. So Yeah, cudo to the ladies of Lyla, they made me feel comfortable in my decisions to contact one or another. I've only met nice/fantastic ladies through Lyla and will always keep a special spot about each of them in me. Cheers D. Enregistrer</span>

My sentiments, exactly. I can clearly tell when a client is not responding to something so I switch up my approach, only to see no change. I then ask, "does this feel good?" Only to be met with a blank nod and polite smile... Please show us what you like!! This is only one way porn has eroded intimate experiences; we are not mind readers!

She was not the first SP to who I presented this. Most were either not on board or had a long list of restrictions sucking the fun out of it. That includes those who specializes in wrestling fetishes. In their case, I had to remain either passive or defensive and never wonder off the scenario or attempt to pin or dominate them. On top of that, their rate was insanely high. A sharp contrast from the young woman who had visible abs and didn't mind a good squeeze. She actually got aroused from the physicality and competitiveness of the experience. And her rate was the same as FS. The only thing she requested, was for me to bring old sheets to cover her mattress and absorb the oil. Finding someone who'll do it, that's easy. Finding someone who'll actually have fun from it and won't "phone it in", that's the hard part.

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just wanted to bump up this topic to see if anyone has any new opinions. I've met many woman of all ages. And have enjoyed my time with almost all of them. But with the older women comes experience and passion. But have had similar experiences with some of the younger ones also.

These days, with the new spa's opening up. And so many tempting beautiful girls to try out. It is getting quite hard to decide who to see, when I have already seen so many that I would like to repeat with. Life is getting harder. But this is a good problem to have :)

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Phoenix is here but only for a couple of more hours. It's Stacy's BDay so got to take her back for a bit.... Additional Comments Damn

Generally when ladies state they are perfect , flawless or just the best are B&S . Thing about it , how many perfect people do any of us know ?

2 adds are for the same girl. I fell for it and ended up meeting the same girl after relying to the second add. If your good a reading between the lines there was a reason I didn't book with the same girl for a second visit , but ended up with her. And the other add is a girl who uses many adds and many numbers and none of them are of her. Do you have been warned

Natalie and nina serving . Claire , jenna ,joy ,natasha , marissa ( blknde from nuden i dont know her ) , catalina , carmella , carmel? All here now

THis is great!

I have taught tantric couples workshops over the years.. one focusing on yoni (female), the other on lingam (male)... and they are always fun... am actually being prompted by a group of friends to do another one soon... (and find it was very difficult to attempt online... hehe tried it with one couple.. didn't translate well)....but.. in the interest of this thread... I have also found that some people (boyfriends/partners)...are 'hesitant' to massage me...simply because they are not of the same skill....especially, and perrrrrhaps oddly enough, my feet - I am a certified foot reflexologist so hehe.... well let me tell you.. what I think has already been mentioned... we don't care about the *skill*! lol... what human doesn't loooove being softly/intently touched... str0ked... admired.... taken in...? short answer... NONE ;) so long as the person isn't 'pinching'/poking as a method of massage (have had that before.. was strange hehe).. it is aaaaall good :) massage away folks! After all, our skin is our largest erogenous zone... why not enjoy every single lovely millimetre of it, right? ;)

If anyone hasn't already... read this thread. If you have, read it again.

<insert emphatic eye roll here please>... I am *really* tiring of this one..... When you message a provider, on *any* forum...asking if they have a opening relatively soon, and they pleasantly surprise you by immediately replying back that yes, they do.. and they give you times to choose from.. you reply back.. choosing one AND complimenting the provider on how fast the reply was <grin>, clarifying the session details... Provider (me) immediately replies back on the clarification.. and sets about preparations so things are purrrrfect upon your arrival........ ....show the h3ll up..... or at least let provider know you have, for whatever reason, changed your mind.... soooo not cool gents.... not at all (perrrrson in question is *still* logged in here.... very much a p1ss off, I have to say.....) as it very rarely happens with people from here... but there is very little else I hate more than someone wasting time.. mine or theirs.. what's the point..?

Don't forget to be a gentleman. The woman always cum's first :) Remember companionship is a two way trip. If she enjoys herself, she will return the favour many times over. It's a time of mutual pleasure.

Sadly, the proliferation of porn has desensitized people to the point that they can no longer be aroused by 'normal' sexual activities. 'Kissing touching and caressing' have been replaced by the 'spitting gagging and slapping' of today's porn culture.

TELL US WHAT YOU WANT! I am surly not the only escort who has had a mediocre session with someone who refused to give any clue or indication as to if they enjoyed something or not. The blank stare and "Yup" or "okay" to every question... To be honest it gives me the creeps! If you are nervous or inexperienced, let us know! I personally will slow things down a bit for a shy, nervous or inexperienced client, make them feel more comfortable and relaxed... If you look like you are in a state of silent perpetual terror it kind of ruins the mood. If I am giving verbal prompts "Do you like that" or "Want to do this instead"... I'm likely searching for a clue as to what you would like to do most... I won't be offended if a client says "I would really like to do X instead of Y" I want you to have an amazing time! Outside of that arrive clean, on time (NOT 15 early!!!) and respect the rules! Never, ever, EVER, arrive without a confirmed (discussed how long and a set time) appointment...

Reading through these, it is indeed a bit 'sad' that this *needs* to be here... but.. humans are what we are, so... Aside from some of us slightly promoting ourselves on this thread about the type of sessions we enjoy/offer...<grin>... (something which I am not going to do....) it should be a relative no-brainer that if you are seeking out a provider, you are wanting to experience something fun, relaxing.. and discrete...outside your 'normal' life/relationship... and have expectations that we will automatically respect your privacy, boundaries, wishes.. et al.... so... in having that expectation as a client.. why should it be a difficult stretch to expect that we as providers, also have boundaries, expectations.. limits.. et al...? In general, I would think that the client has the advantage.. after all, *you* are privy to all our information before you even make contact.. all the things you need to decide whether or not to proceed and contact. As far as I am concerned.. *if* you actually have rad my information (or that of another provider)... then b contacting me, that tells me, you are fine with my requests/expectations and all I offer.... so I would not ever expect someone to 'argue', badger or haggle... tsk tsk gents ;) Over the course of my long and lovely career.. I have seen many provider's websites.. blogs.. posts, ads.. and they are all extremely clear.. detailed... and for the most part, very well written, explaining etiquette, fees/donations.. all that... so it again, should be so simple it's almost redundant... read.... read... and read again.... (and please... show up as clean as possible.. from mouth to toes ;) ..stale beer, coffee... in the face, strong body odor.. or 'surprises' in intimate areas....are a sure-fire wet blanket to any scenario ;) It is supposed to be all about fun.... if a woman has gone to the trouble of creating a site where you can find all her info... do both of you a favor, and read it.. do NOT ever haggle... (whining is a MAJOR turn-off, in any situation hehe)...and if requested/required, ask/answer questions clearly and to your/her satisfaction...as should the provider if you have any yourself...... so much nicer when that happens ;) Demanding that someone bend their rules/expectations to suit you simply due to the fact that they have chosen to do this type of thing for a living... is never acceptable.... talking, inquiring, asking.. is *usually* fine, especially with those providers that just list hourly donation rates. If she says yes, then.. lovely.. if she says no.. then.. just as lovely... :) **Responding in a timely fashion is also super-high on my list of wonderful ways to be a 'good client'... if you ask for a session at a specific time...same day or whatever...keep an eye on you remail.. and when the woman replies back.. reply to her... if the time she gives is not one that works for you.. don't simply leave the message 'hanging'.. reply, letting her know it doesn't work.. that way the session isn't tentatively held for you... (happens far too often and is super annoying!)

DICTIONARY : o·pen-mind·ed adjective willing to consider new ideas; unprejudiced. synonyms: unbiased, unprejudiced, nonpartisan, neutral, nonjudgmental, nondiscriminatory; objective, dispassionate, disinterested; tolerant, liberal, permissive, broad-minded: "open-minded attitudes" receptive, open to suggestions, open to new ideas, amenable, flexible, willing to listen "it was a progressive school that appealed to parents who were open-minded" __________ I think, especially in this industry, that yes, it is most often misunderstood as 'bare'... or 'risky'.... when all it *actually* means, is open to non-judgemental discussion of ideas ;) ...just because I will listen..... does not mean I will change my habits/ways/brain ;)

Regrettably , the majority of men will take this as a cue to try to push the envelope well past the provider's advertised services. Men are from Mars women are from Venus. It's really in your best interest not to use the phrase.

want to be a good client? Read the information in the ads/website etc. I am not a provider that runs 8-10 clients through here in a day, I take on 3-4 a week, it depends on if I feel like doing this. I am very low volume as I like clients to feel as though they are the only person that sees me. I take the time to make a special effort to make you feel welcome and invited to my home. It is clean and fresh, and has a great ambient feel to it. You are never rushed when you are here, and you will find difficulty in finding a clock in my place. It doesn't really matter where you found me. It can be an ad on another site, it could be here on Lyla, you may have ran across my website. I will always be courteous when answering inquiries (unless they are totally rude which just gets an automatic ban with no reply at all from me). If you have curiosity about me and wish to communicate, please do so, respectfully. Upon receiving enough information from my website and with talking to me to satisfy you enough to make a booking, be sure that what you are asking for in the initial booking is what you are expecting in the session, nothing more. In other words, don't book a 30 minute MA session expecting to stay an hour with additional activities for the same rate! I just had communications, over several days, in which I thought I was perfectly clear in having this person understand what he was getting into. I directed him to my website and he booked directly from that, so I had him quote my cancellation policy to me. This was done. He shows up, at the appointed time, for a 3 hour session. Unfortunately, the fee he brought was not what was discussed (and is perfectly clear in my website) and he decided that he only 'needed a half hour'. So he brought enough to cover something from a completely different ad I am running, which is 10% of the cost of what he booked (and doesn't even begin to cover my cancellation fee)! Meanwhile, I didn't take on other clients that could have been here. So, if you want to be a good client, communicate well with the providers. We answer all polite requests, and supply you will all the information you need to make an informed decision on whether we are right for you, and if you can afford our time. Please don't waste our time, we don't waste yours.

receiving messages such as: "way too much for me" (in response to an ad that has the rates directly in it!) absolutely boggles my mind! If you are looking at an ad that has rates in it, and you cannot afford it, DON'T message the girl! Requests for reductions is rude and is done by those that feel entitled. I get tired of requests such as this. Save your money until you have the amount requested, THEN contact the person of your choice, it has a much better correspondence return. When a 'special' rate is advertised, and you say its too much, then you cant afford me! You are not a client I want to see.

Often a throw away line. Chemistry decides most every thing. Peace MG

Wolf Knight, With all due respect, isn't this generalizing? It's too bad that you had a situation where the lady's ad was probably misleading but I don't think every single thing written in ads should be ignored, what are ads for then? There are certain things that should be discussed or confirmed as you suggested because everyone's interpretation is different and as such is better to ask a lady what she meant by whatever she wrote, most ladies won't mind explaining. Of course we (providers) use whatever phrase or whole ad to get attention, that's what we advertise for and there's nothing wrong with that, false advertising is wrong but I would say there's a minority of that on Lyla and I may be wrong but in this case I don't think communication would have made a difference, IF the provider you met used false advertising I don't see her admitting to it because you booked in advance and Tom to the time to email her, she would likely keep telling you the things stated in her ad. Maybe as you said the lady you met had a bad day or maybe chemistry wasn't just there, no offence but there's no perfect/fantastic client to everyone just as there's no perfect/fantastic provider to every single gent, and just like everyone has their own definition of open minded every lady has their own definition of a fantastic client so it's the lady and not her guest who will be able to say if he was a perfect client or not. I'm multi-tasking while typing this so I'll come back and check it later in case it needs editing to make any sense, I apologize if it doesn't :icon_redface:

^ THIS When inevitably asked by clients about my "menu" I remind them that I am a sensual and carnal woman who enjoys her work ... but their attitude, hygiene and level of respect are what really determine how our time goes. I make no promises how our time goes in advance because how am I to know for sure you will not treat me like an object rather than a person, have poor hygiene or are otherwise a turn-off? I don't know, therefor I don't tell. I understand the need for many to know as they are paying a considerable amount of money for a companion's company. However, I decline to discuss proclivities as the real determining factor is not what I enjoy, but whether I enjoy it with a specific partner.

When I first started doing this, I would get the question 'are you open-minded?'. I would say yes (for all the reasons the ladies here said) and I even started putting it in ad because I was asked so often. After a while, when they asked that question, I would say 'i'm doing this aren't I'. And the response would be 'that's not what I mean'. Later still, I learned that open-minded means something totally different. So now I just say 'no' and skip all the hassle. It IS code for something! Now it seems to mean some unsafe offerings so 'no' just about covers it. But when a girl offers it in ad, she may just be doing what i initially did and respond to the many requests. Until she realizes that it is code for something else, she could just be innocent of the actual meaning.

There are so many new companions out there that I would like to meet. And new one's keep appearing every week. But I have met so many women that I would like to repeat with. Do I keep with regulars that I know that I will have a great time, or do I go with some new woman that could be the next best thing, or someone that I would have no connection with? Choosing a proven woman of Lyla.com has never failed me yet :) So if they are new I usually wait till they have a few recommendations or two. So if they have an account, I usually Pm them for a while to see if we have anything in common. And if I find them interesting and friendly, I usually will try to see them eventually.

It's getting extremely hard for me to choose now. As my budget has now been restricted. But I have met so many wonderful women that I repeat with and would like to repeat with. But at the same time several women that I did not get a chance to meet before due to them retiring are now returning to the business. So I want to meet them before they leave again. And then there are so many beautiful new women entering the business that I have been PM'ing that I would like to meet also. And I will try to meet them when I can. But it will take time. What am I to do :) Such a hard life lol

There are so many tempting New MA's these days, but I have met so many women that i want to repeat with also. It's getting very hard to decide on who to see next. Some one I know that I have great chemistry or to take a chance that the next session won't be fun or could be the best thing? Life is hard enough already without having to make these hard decisions. Women of Cerb are all great and you really can't go wrong with any of these well recommended women. So I just go with my guts when I have the time and so far lady luck has been good to me. Just about all my choices have been great, which in itself leads to making the next decision harder lol.

I feel the same way as Someguy. Too many ladies to choose from and I feel somewhat obligated to keep in touch with old friends. That, and some _ _'s will text, PM or email me asking if they will see me soon. The toughest part I find is when attending a spa and the hostess that greets you at the door or answers the phone is not the girl you are there to see. I've been asked a few times ''Are you here to see me?'' and it is very awkward to say no, because I have seen several of them before and I love them all. At which point/frequency does it become awkward to see someone? By the way, I am curious as to what kind of budget guys devote to this. I am sure everyone is different, but at what point should one seek help? :icon_lol: Is $4,000-$5,000 in a month too much? (even if you can afford it) I'm starting to think that I might have to do more duos or trios just to see all those ladies each month. :icon_razz:

Saw Tiannah tonight. I second all the inlove wrote above about Tiannah...she's a sweet girl for sure. Non-rushed, talkative, makes me feel at ease. She has a very pretty and cute face, luscious lips...and nice skills I might add, and lovely breasts. Would return for sure.

Couple ladies I have yet to meet, but there is a certain comfort and enjoyment in meeting a certain regular lady. The excitement isn't the surprise in meeting someone new. The excitement is in meeting a lady and friend after a period of time not seeing her. There are just things shared between us that can't be shared with someone you don't know. A certain magic comes from having shared memories As they say, absence makes the heart grow fonder LOL A rambling RG

I saw Tiannah yesterday. She's a lovely person, chatty and sweet. Very attractive, although with a "thick", borderline BBW, look that might not appeal to all. It appeals a lot to me and she's really pretty, beautiful lips, eyes, smile. very pretty face. Had a good time. Decent location, safe, secure, central, communication easy by phone or email. If you're into waifs then she might not be for you, but for those who enjoy a soft sensuous womanly body, pretty face, great personality and good skills - you can't go wrong.

I honestly don't know how to predict some of these terms. What I do know is that if you're a nice guy and treat the ladies with GENUINE respect, there's a good chance that respect will be reciprocated. To me, that's where the whole GFE comes in. If one takes the time to get to know someone, there's a whole new comfort zone established. Don't get me wrong.......there are definite boundaries, but simply from interactions and observations on this forum, I get a pretty good feeling who I might "connect" with. I once had a lady tell me "I love you as much as I can". To me, that's Mt. Everest....the peak. If I'm comfortable and she's comfortable, that's all the open minded I need. We'll discover the boundaries as they're approached. If a complete stranger assures me that she's open minded, I realize that we still have a lot of learning to do. I'm okay with that- for an hour- but for a repeat visit, I'd have to genuinely like her. Fortunately, I like a lot of people that like me.

So interesting how people think in different cities, I am known for being open minded but only once was I ever asked for BBFS. I do advertise as open minded and a fantasy granter. Almost all my requests that some would consider "out of the norm " are mostly role play that hurts no one and can really be a lot of fun. I am not sure if geography, big cities or many more providers per capita brings out the rudeness and Gaul, lol perhaps a study someday is in order.

Perfectly said - thank you.

I never use this term in my advertising, for one reason - without fail, when a man texts me and asks if I'm open-minded, his follow-up question is if I offer BBFS. I am serious in this, without fail. So I hate this term, and will never, ever use it in my advertising. I am not saying that girls who use this term offer that service, I am NOT saying that at all - but just that to me personally, the term makes me get my back up and I don't like it. I guess my post is mostly a tip to the gents, lol - I would refrain from asking a girl if she is open-minded. If you want something specific, just ask - I think most girls in this business ARE open-minded enough to listen to your request and answer without judgement.

All I can to add my two cents worth is that the term has become very confusing and I hate when I ask a SP if she does this and that and she says she does only to arrive and find out she doesn't! No restrictions is also bizarre? What is up with that?

Although I agree with the majority about what open-minded is (non-judgmental, willing to talk openly, etc.), I also have to agree with what Fortunateone and a few others have expressed. I think the term has been abused by too many and as a result, took away any value it might have had at some point, if any. Yup! It reminds me of the agencies or indies that use the term "no restrictions". No restrictions? Really? Do you know what you are saying and understand the high risks it might potentially involve when read by the wrong people!?! Anyway, that's another topic altogether.

I'm with the guy who talks about 'open minded' being similar to using the term 'GFE' in an ad. It only means what the sp who posted the ad wants it to mean, nothing more and nothing less, and sometimes it is just a tag line meant to get the phone to ring, nothing more and nothing less. And sometimes, shocker, the ad is simply copied from someone else in another city and has nothing to do with the sp you are calling, but ended up in the ad because she stole it from a US advertiser where the term actually meant something in code for that US sp lol. Never overthink this stuff, outside of very specific acronyms, these things like 'all inclusive', 'GFE', 'PSE', "ymmv" and "open minded' among other things are not worth the time to examine and define to anyone's satisfaction, because the majority of clients and sps are not reading these definitions and will simply redefine them any way they wish. And some of them have no idea of what the original meaning of 'open minded' used to be, or some of them use it because they do know, but they aren't aware of what it is being used for now. On one agency site, the term was used only for sps who didn't wish to have their actual services listed or defined as either GFE or PSE or FS only or any other label. They reserved the right to tell the client in person face to face what they did or didn't do, and sometimes that meant that one guy might get a kiss, while another one didn't. This way they couldn't be forced into a certain menu it gave them the freedom to decide for themselves at the time.

To me, "open-minded" means "I'm absolutely willing to hear some suggestions/instruction and discuss your fantasies without judgement, as long as it stays within my well-stated boundaries" For example, I don't specifically advertise certain scenarios in my ads, say duo encounters, however I would be open to this with the right people. And to be clear I mean "instruction" as in, if you don't like something I'm doing, or you want me to do a technique/position/etc I'm not doing, I am all ears so I can best please you. Open-minded does not mean "ask me 15 times if I will offer Greek, when I clearly state that I don't". (This is not a jab at your post Phaedrus, it was just the first example that popped into my head)

It always seemed to me that "open minded" in an ad was a bit of a red flag, and can often be attached to B&S and other scams. OF course, I could be wrong, and am willing to reassess, since I'm, errrrr, open minded :D

I have always thought that "open minded" meant non-judgmental. So, you could be open in asking about something a little off the conventional, "vanilla" sexual map. It didn't guarantee she'd say yes, but it does mean she wouldn't give you a hard time about the request. Lots of guys have quirks and fetishes and offbeat interests they might be yearning to pursue but nervous to ask about. To me, open-minded means "don't be afraid to ask". I *don't* think open-minded means "willing to renegotiate my stated boundaries", or secretly open to doing something unsafe.

Open minded can mean many different things in this business. I would recommend getting in contact with the lady and getting some idea as to what may be on the menu. Remember though, just because it is on the menu does not mean it will be offered to you. It is always your millage may vary.