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I discovered a while ago that age and experience are not necessarily proportional. I met 19yo young women and SP's who displayed a lot of experience after being sexually active for many years, while some women in their 40's are just starting to experience more after being stuck in a marriage with years of passionless missionary sex. Same goes with the passion. No matter the attraction and experience, if the chemistry is not there, the session will be at best "average". But sometimes a revisit can spark a completely different experience. One example was with a 20yo SP I met. Her body was very fit and perfect(and I'm not, quite far from it) and on the first session it was a bit cold between us. We went through the motion, barely said a word and was a short session. Weeks later, seen her ad and pictures again and asked her if she did oil wrestling sessions. She wasn't sure and I provided her with video links and pictures and she actually got excited about the idea. So we set a few ground rules and met again. It was like being with a completely different woman. She was smiling, was excited and even kissed me as I was hugging her into submission. It was great. No matter the age, the chemistry and context can make all the difference between an average and great experience.

A client should never put his foot in his mouth and say idiotic or derogatory things to an SP. You can never unring a bell. I've gotten rid of some clients after they put their foot in their mouth out of the blue one day and my respect for them was lost forever. Get comfortable with an SP but not too comfortable. A client should never try to be funny in a mean spirited or demeaning way or pushing the boundaries by trying to give an SP advice particularly about our business and how "unsafe" it is. We are offering a service, not here to be lectured. In the end, these types of clients come off looking like foolish jerks.

Oh my god, if you ever want to redo that leave me a message lol. Wrestling and pinning down, I am going to soak the entire floor lol. I don't know if you will succeed pinning me down though, but it would be fun trying ;)

It is great that hobbyists can have girls for every tastes. Every providers offer a slightly different service as well :) It must also be hard to decide to go to see a SP or a MA. I don't know if I could make a choice, personally. So I thanks my regulars for picking me :)

Well, Someguy, your contributions to several discussions on Lyla are always great and I hope you'll continue to do so for many years :). I've been a member for around 4 years now and read a lot of your stuffs. At first, I stayed quiet for the vaste majority of it, read many threats without commentating. For me, Lyla is a "more secure" environment where I will look and valid infos took elsewhere about ladies. So Yeah, cudo to the ladies of Lyla, they made me feel comfortable in my decisions to contact one or another. I've only met nice/fantastic ladies through Lyla and will always keep a special spot about each of them in me. Cheers D. Enregistrer</span>

My sentiments, exactly. I can clearly tell when a client is not responding to something so I switch up my approach, only to see no change. I then ask, "does this feel good?" Only to be met with a blank nod and polite smile... Please show us what you like!! This is only one way porn has eroded intimate experiences; we are not mind readers!

I pride myself on being sincere, warm, outgoing, personable, compassionate, and down-to-earth. With a genuine interest in learning about others, this makes me a natural conversationalist. Gentlemen from various backgrounds will find themselves completely relaxed and comfortable during our time spent together. It would be my pleasure to show you a world of sensual bliss that you won't soon forget... Me, My Sessions, And I... Respected and well-reviewed Independent MA Nuru massage & lap dance massage appointments Private studio in center-town, walking distance from Bank & Elgin street Available Monday to Friday: 10:00 - 10:00 Text: 613-604-3175 [email protected] @jackiegilcrest Jackiegilcrest.ca

Hi there, thank you for checking my ad. You will not be disappointed with my A+++ massage... My name is Vivian. I'm 28 years old. Gorgeous, i am a classy looking Lady with long black hair, seductive cat eyes ...., beautiful silky soft, tanned skin. work out body with all the right curves in the right places. You have finally met your dream girl... .I great you at the door with a lovely smile then lead you to the massage room...I will start with a deep soothing tissue massage to relax all your muscles then follow with a soft touch to invigorate your whole body then the fun time ... It will be the most relaxing, creative and passionate session for you ever. So amazing that you cannot help yourself from thinking about it and want to come back for more ! http://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92146 For relaxing massage $40/30m $50/45m $70/60m appointment only, call/text me at 6l3 7l2 l2OO mon to sat 10am to 7pm.

Let me introduce myself I'm Juno, your well reviewed independent companion based out of Toronto. I characterize myself as a down to earth and witty blonde bombshell. I pride myself on being able to get people out of their shell with my charm, warm nature and sexy smile. I also find myself able to adapt to any situation with ease and enthusiasm, GFE with a twist. Hope to hear from you soon. Incall rates: 1hr. 350 1.5.500 2hr.650 3hr. 900 social rates and longer appointments inquire, outcall is subject to $50 travel fee. http://www.junogrey.com // [email protected] // text only +1 289-802-3584 Stats: 5'10 120lbs 32DD natural/ 23/32 Tattoos Long Blonde Hair Slim/ Athletic Did someone say duo? I love my ladies aswell, I'm extremely excited when I get to participate with another one of the fine ladies we have in this city, email for inquiries.

It's been over 7 years now. And I would like to raise another toast to the great women of Lyla. It hasn't been the same the last couple of years because of Bill 36. But people seem to be returning here, discussions are still happening here. New girls from the spa's are here, but most seem to be using twitter now. But I respect and appreciated the time that iI have spent here meeting women. They have all been very nice to meet and I have made very good friends here and have had many happy memories with the women I have met here. Not sure how much longer I will be doing this. But hope to have more fun as long as possible. Cheers :)

My schedule for the week of Monday October 2 to Saturday October 7 in Halifax. Please text or call 902.456.2898, xo. Mon....Oct 2 Incall 1pm-12am in Halifax. Tues...Oct 3 evening outcall only. Wend..Oct 4 evening outcall only. Thurs..Oct 5 Incall 1pm-12am in Halifax. Fri......Oct 6 off Sat.....Oct 7 off I will please you, pamper you, give you the best erotic experience that you could have. My sensuous lips will live to kiss you and to really please you, my soft smooth skin will love your touch, my deep blue eyes will draw you in, my firm strong legs will easily wrap around you and bring you close, and my skills will readily give you that happy ending you so deserve. A pretty face, a great body, fantastic curves and assets, a wonderful upbeat attitude, full pleasurable contact and a great location with a sensual atmosphere await you. Yours only, Kylie Jane xo

If you're looking for a really good therapeutic massage your better off going to an RMT and then seeing one of our great local service providers after for the h.e.

For a unique, memorable adventure with eroticism. To be charmed and have the desire to start again. Please leave me a message.XOX

Generally when ladies state they are perfect , flawless or just the best are B&S . Thing about it , how many perfect people do any of us know ?

2 adds are for the same girl. I fell for it and ended up meeting the same girl after relying to the second add. If your good a reading between the lines there was a reason I didn't book with the same girl for a second visit , but ended up with her. And the other add is a girl who uses many adds and many numbers and none of them are of her. Do you have been warned

THis is great!

Thanks to you someguy for another well written post, it was a good idea to bump it so new members have an easy access to it. Everyone requesting services should read this before booking their first appointment :)

I have taught tantric couples workshops over the years.. one focusing on yoni (female), the other on lingam (male)... and they are always fun... am actually being prompted by a group of friends to do another one soon... (and find it was very difficult to attempt online... hehe tried it with one couple.. didn't translate well)....but.. in the interest of this thread... I have also found that some people (boyfriends/partners)...are 'hesitant' to massage me...simply because they are not of the same skill....especially, and perrrrrhaps oddly enough, my feet - I am a certified foot reflexologist so hehe.... well let me tell you.. what I think has already been mentioned... we don't care about the *skill*! lol... what human doesn't loooove being softly/intently touched... str0ked... admired.... taken in...? short answer... NONE ;) so long as the person isn't 'pinching'/poking as a method of massage (have had that before.. was strange hehe).. it is aaaaall good :) massage away folks! After all, our skin is our largest erogenous zone... why not enjoy every single lovely millimetre of it, right? ;)

If anyone hasn't already... read this thread. If you have, read it again.

Though this is my first post, this post caught my attention. I have been seeing Independents as I hope they are receiving the full amount i donate. In my experience, as Raven said, Do not waste their time and they do not waste yours. Show up. take care of your hygiene (shower, brush teeth, smelling fresh). Respect the amounts requested or do not contact if you do not agree to the prices. Show respect to expect respect. Much love and respect to all you beauties.

<insert emphatic eye roll here please>... I am *really* tiring of this one..... When you message a provider, on *any* forum...asking if they have a opening relatively soon, and they pleasantly surprise you by immediately replying back that yes, they do.. and they give you times to choose from.. you reply back.. choosing one AND complimenting the provider on how fast the reply was <grin>, clarifying the session details... Provider (me) immediately replies back on the clarification.. and sets about preparations so things are purrrrfect upon your arrival........ ....show the h3ll up..... or at least let provider know you have, for whatever reason, changed your mind.... soooo not cool gents.... not at all (perrrrson in question is *still* logged in here.... very much a p1ss off, I have to say.....) as it very rarely happens with people from here... but there is very little else I hate more than someone wasting time.. mine or theirs.. what's the point..?

This is rare and doesn't include most men out there but don't harass an SP non stop all day long asking if she's available. When she doesn't return someone's messages, there is an obvious reason as to why the person doesn't hear back. That's a major red flag right there and there is no way I would invite someone like that into my location who has no awareness of social boundaries. If an SP doesn't return a person's messages, it's best to move on and find someone else. Harassing her even if the person's intentions aren't nefarious will scare her away even more. When a potential client's attitude screams that of desperation and being too overly eager, I go in the opposite direction.

*IF* a lady is okay with you giving her name/contact info out to others... pleeeeease tell the person who you give the info to... that it's ok to also use YOUR name (or at least your username)... I just spent the last 45 minutes of a lovely sunny day.. trying to extract basic information from a an who claims a 'friend' gave him my email.... but was unaware of all i offer, or my website...(sketchy...) I asked the friends name.. he wouldn't give it.... I explained why I want that name.... he wouldn't give it.... several emails back and forth later.. all I get is 'Joe'..... and the man msging me still hasn't offered me *his* name... which I had asked a few times already..... (what day/time/type of session are you looking for... what is your name, and how did you come by my info... pretty basic stuff I'd think) may not agree to see him... as I pride myself on discretion and am verrrrry careful as to who has my contact info, and how they get it... so fellas.... as a favor to not only us.. but to anyone you may refer.... tell them to offer a lady your username if you aren't comfy giving your real one... 'so and so from lyla' works amazingly well ;) I do have many other fun ways to spend my day rather than pulling teeth out of rock ;) couldn't decide whether this should go in turn offs for a lady, or how to be a decent client but hehe ;)

Take shoes off when entering an SP's location. I tell new clients to remind them just in case. Imo, this is a first sign of respect. Discretion and privacy for SPs - Have some boundaries and don't cross them like showing up at a lady's location unannounced or other shady practices such as being indiscreet when seeing them in public, spying on them , etc. Reputable ladies will respect your privacy so please respect ours. Follow protocol when visiting and being discreet upon entering the location or when buzzing up. These things aren't the norm when it comes to more service oriented type details on how to be a good client but they all make a lasting impression and can be a deal breaker in choosing not to see someone again. Boundaries, boundaries, boundaries are a huge thing with me. If someone doesn't respect them, I'm done.

Sadly, the proliferation of porn has desensitized people to the point that they can no longer be aroused by 'normal' sexual activities. 'Kissing touching and caressing' have been replaced by the 'spitting gagging and slapping' of today's porn culture.

Myself, I actually ask outright. ..for information on things a perrrrson likes/dislikes....and in a manner that keeps things relaxed and comfortable...usually via emails when we start communicating. I've found.that most people, even if nervous....are considerably more.confident with a.screen between us <gein> I fancy myself a 'fantasy facilitator'...have been called that so <grin>...but if I don't get into those lovely little secret corners of your brain....hard.to 'facilitate' what I don't know ;) I'm fairly certain that most of us, given our chosen professions <grin> are fairly comfortable talking about anything....mundane or taboo <grin>...and I at least would.hope that whoever chosen to communicate with me.would feel secure.enough to really talk to me ;) .......so far...so good <wink>....with purrrrhaps one exception. ..but the individual in question has still chosen to communicate with me...and admitted that it may have been better had he.simply opened up to me :) ...and now both of us are looking forward to getting together again on a much clearer.playing field ;)

TELL US WHAT YOU WANT! I am surly not the only escort who has had a mediocre session with someone who refused to give any clue or indication as to if they enjoyed something or not. The blank stare and "Yup" or "okay" to every question... To be honest it gives me the creeps! If you are nervous or inexperienced, let us know! I personally will slow things down a bit for a shy, nervous or inexperienced client, make them feel more comfortable and relaxed... If you look like you are in a state of silent perpetual terror it kind of ruins the mood. If I am giving verbal prompts "Do you like that" or "Want to do this instead"... I'm likely searching for a clue as to what you would like to do most... I won't be offended if a client says "I would really like to do X instead of Y" I want you to have an amazing time! Outside of that arrive clean, on time (NOT 15 early!!!) and respect the rules! Never, ever, EVER, arrive without a confirmed (discussed how long and a set time) appointment...

Reading through these, it is indeed a bit 'sad' that this *needs* to be here... but.. humans are what we are, so... Aside from some of us slightly promoting ourselves on this thread about the type of sessions we enjoy/offer...<grin>... (something which I am not going to do....) it should be a relative no-brainer that if you are seeking out a provider, you are wanting to experience something fun, relaxing.. and discrete...outside your 'normal' life/relationship... and have expectations that we will automatically respect your privacy, boundaries, wishes.. et al.... so... in having that expectation as a client.. why should it be a difficult stretch to expect that we as providers, also have boundaries, expectations.. limits.. et al...? In general, I would think that the client has the advantage.. after all, *you* are privy to all our information before you even make contact.. all the things you need to decide whether or not to proceed and contact. As far as I am concerned.. *if* you actually have rad my information (or that of another provider)... then b contacting me, that tells me, you are fine with my requests/expectations and all I offer.... so I would not ever expect someone to 'argue', badger or haggle... tsk tsk gents ;) Over the course of my long and lovely career.. I have seen many provider's websites.. blogs.. posts, ads.. and they are all extremely clear.. detailed... and for the most part, very well written, explaining etiquette, fees/donations.. all that... so it again, should be so simple it's almost redundant... read.... read... and read again.... (and please... show up as clean as possible.. from mouth to toes ;) ..stale beer, coffee... in the face, strong body odor.. or 'surprises' in intimate areas....are a sure-fire wet blanket to any scenario ;) It is supposed to be all about fun.... if a woman has gone to the trouble of creating a site where you can find all her info... do both of you a favor, and read it.. do NOT ever haggle... (whining is a MAJOR turn-off, in any situation hehe)...and if requested/required, ask/answer questions clearly and to your/her satisfaction...as should the provider if you have any yourself...... so much nicer when that happens ;) Demanding that someone bend their rules/expectations to suit you simply due to the fact that they have chosen to do this type of thing for a living... is never acceptable.... talking, inquiring, asking.. is *usually* fine, especially with those providers that just list hourly donation rates. If she says yes, then.. lovely.. if she says no.. then.. just as lovely... :) **Responding in a timely fashion is also super-high on my list of wonderful ways to be a 'good client'... if you ask for a session at a specific time...same day or whatever...keep an eye on you remail.. and when the woman replies back.. reply to her... if the time she gives is not one that works for you.. don't simply leave the message 'hanging'.. reply, letting her know it doesn't work.. that way the session isn't tentatively held for you... (happens far too often and is super annoying!)

It all boils down to respect. Respect others, as you would like them to respect you.

receiving messages such as: "way too much for me" (in response to an ad that has the rates directly in it!) absolutely boggles my mind! If you are looking at an ad that has rates in it, and you cannot afford it, DON'T message the girl! Requests for reductions is rude and is done by those that feel entitled. I get tired of requests such as this. Save your money until you have the amount requested, THEN contact the person of your choice, it has a much better correspondence return. When a 'special' rate is advertised, and you say its too much, then you cant afford me! You are not a client I want to see.

I've never really paid much attention to "open minded". I figured if she works in this field, she's pretty open minded... but I suppose that it means she will listen to you and try to please you in the way you want her to treat you, rather then just mechanically doing her thing. One of my big preference is I love to gently run my hands through a woman hair, especially while kissing or in cowgirl (not unrelatedly I also particularly like long hair). I guess I have a hair fetish. Her willingness to let me gently play with her hair has a huge impact on if I repeat or not. So I always hope she open minded about her hair, lol. As for Girl Friend Experience. I do think that does mean something as I've been with ladies in Austria who made no attempt to engage in conversation, or was not affectionate or friendly during the session... and only partly because of the language barrier... I do enjoy the GFE but some lady's create the illusion better then others. and of course after a few repeats and a genuine connection is formed... its not really an illusion.

As with a lot of things.. in this business, and with life in general I think <grin>... I seem to have a different take on this as well.... To me, being 'open-minded' isn't solely relating to sex... but to keep it in properrr context for here.... To me, being a sexually open-minded person simply means I inquire listen, discuss anything you wish, with no judgement, ridicule... embarrassment... and yes, decide for myself if it something I am willing to engage in. If I enjoy it.. I not only continue, but will certainly repeat.. if not, then I simply don't... or find an eloquent way to change the activity ;) and not bother repeating that activity <grin> And I cannot believe someone (provider) would say they were 'open-minded'.. and then have a mile-long list of *don'ts* and NOT discuss them beforehand..... parrrrdon my characteristic bluntness here, but.... that's a bit f*cked up and cannot be good for business ;) My own thirst for new experiences makes me one is is most definitely open-minded...free-spirited no matter the context....sex and sensuality is just another way to explore/enjoy it ;)

Wolf Knight, With all due respect, isn't this generalizing? It's too bad that you had a situation where the lady's ad was probably misleading but I don't think every single thing written in ads should be ignored, what are ads for then? There are certain things that should be discussed or confirmed as you suggested because everyone's interpretation is different and as such is better to ask a lady what she meant by whatever she wrote, most ladies won't mind explaining. Of course we (providers) use whatever phrase or whole ad to get attention, that's what we advertise for and there's nothing wrong with that, false advertising is wrong but I would say there's a minority of that on Lyla and I may be wrong but in this case I don't think communication would have made a difference, IF the provider you met used false advertising I don't see her admitting to it because you booked in advance and Tom to the time to email her, she would likely keep telling you the things stated in her ad. Maybe as you said the lady you met had a bad day or maybe chemistry wasn't just there, no offence but there's no perfect/fantastic client to everyone just as there's no perfect/fantastic provider to every single gent, and just like everyone has their own definition of open minded every lady has their own definition of a fantastic client so it's the lady and not her guest who will be able to say if he was a perfect client or not. I'm multi-tasking while typing this so I'll come back and check it later in case it needs editing to make any sense, I apologize if it doesn't :icon_redface:

There are so many new companions out there that I would like to meet. And new one's keep appearing every week. But I have met so many women that I would like to repeat with. Do I keep with regulars that I know that I will have a great time, or do I go with some new woman that could be the next best thing, or someone that I would have no connection with? Choosing a proven woman of Lyla.com has never failed me yet :) So if they are new I usually wait till they have a few recommendations or two. So if they have an account, I usually Pm them for a while to see if we have anything in common. And if I find them interesting and friendly, I usually will try to see them eventually.

There are so many tempting New MA's these days, but I have met so many women that i want to repeat with also. It's getting very hard to decide on who to see next. Some one I know that I have great chemistry or to take a chance that the next session won't be fun or could be the best thing? Life is hard enough already without having to make these hard decisions. Women of Cerb are all great and you really can't go wrong with any of these well recommended women. So I just go with my guts when I have the time and so far lady luck has been good to me. Just about all my choices have been great, which in itself leads to making the next decision harder lol.

I think the answer to that question will be different for everybody, but probably does come down simply to what you can afford. Whether you see somebody one a year or once a week there is no objective right answer. For me, if I spent $5000 in a year let alone a month I'd be being irresponsible and spending more than I should based on what I can reasonably set aside for this. I know I'm not able to budget as much as many can but no doubt it's also more than others. I wouldn't say this is much different than most other activities in this regard. You've got to decide what it is worth to you and what you can afford. Admittedly this can be trickier than it sounds because it can certainly be oh so addictive. Now...how do you maintain the discipline to keep to any budget, whatever that may be? That could be it's own discussion! :)

I feel the same way as Someguy. Too many ladies to choose from and I feel somewhat obligated to keep in touch with old friends. That, and some _ _'s will text, PM or email me asking if they will see me soon. The toughest part I find is when attending a spa and the hostess that greets you at the door or answers the phone is not the girl you are there to see. I've been asked a few times ''Are you here to see me?'' and it is very awkward to say no, because I have seen several of them before and I love them all. At which point/frequency does it become awkward to see someone? By the way, I am curious as to what kind of budget guys devote to this. I am sure everyone is different, but at what point should one seek help? :icon_lol: Is $4,000-$5,000 in a month too much? (even if you can afford it) I'm starting to think that I might have to do more duos or trios just to see all those ladies each month. :icon_razz:

Saw Tiannah tonight. I second all the inlove wrote above about Tiannah...she's a sweet girl for sure. Non-rushed, talkative, makes me feel at ease. She has a very pretty and cute face, luscious lips...and nice skills I might add, and lovely breasts. Would return for sure.

I saw Tiannah yesterday. She's a lovely person, chatty and sweet. Very attractive, although with a "thick", borderline BBW, look that might not appeal to all. It appeals a lot to me and she's really pretty, beautiful lips, eyes, smile. very pretty face. Had a good time. Decent location, safe, secure, central, communication easy by phone or email. If you're into waifs then she might not be for you, but for those who enjoy a soft sensuous womanly body, pretty face, great personality and good skills - you can't go wrong.

So many sexy providers! I agree. I'm glad I'm on the opposite side of the table myself, because if I was a hobbyist, I would for sure have difficulty choosing too. LOL

I honestly don't know how to predict some of these terms. What I do know is that if you're a nice guy and treat the ladies with GENUINE respect, there's a good chance that respect will be reciprocated. To me, that's where the whole GFE comes in. If one takes the time to get to know someone, there's a whole new comfort zone established. Don't get me wrong.......there are definite boundaries, but simply from interactions and observations on this forum, I get a pretty good feeling who I might "connect" with. I once had a lady tell me "I love you as much as I can". To me, that's Mt. Everest....the peak. If I'm comfortable and she's comfortable, that's all the open minded I need. We'll discover the boundaries as they're approached. If a complete stranger assures me that she's open minded, I realize that we still have a lot of learning to do. I'm okay with that- for an hour- but for a repeat visit, I'd have to genuinely like her. Fortunately, I like a lot of people that like me.

Perfectly said - thank you.

I never use this term in my advertising, for one reason - without fail, when a man texts me and asks if I'm open-minded, his follow-up question is if I offer BBFS. I am serious in this, without fail. So I hate this term, and will never, ever use it in my advertising. I am not saying that girls who use this term offer that service, I am NOT saying that at all - but just that to me personally, the term makes me get my back up and I don't like it. I guess my post is mostly a tip to the gents, lol - I would refrain from asking a girl if she is open-minded. If you want something specific, just ask - I think most girls in this business ARE open-minded enough to listen to your request and answer without judgement.

All I can to add my two cents worth is that the term has become very confusing and I hate when I ask a SP if she does this and that and she says she does only to arrive and find out she doesn't! No restrictions is also bizarre? What is up with that?

Although I agree with the majority about what open-minded is (non-judgmental, willing to talk openly, etc.), I also have to agree with what Fortunateone and a few others have expressed. I think the term has been abused by too many and as a result, took away any value it might have had at some point, if any. Yup! It reminds me of the agencies or indies that use the term "no restrictions". No restrictions? Really? Do you know what you are saying and understand the high risks it might potentially involve when read by the wrong people!?! Anyway, that's another topic altogether.

Maybe it's because of the particular women I have seen but I don't see "open minded" with the same cynicism some others do. I mentally translate it to "let's talk". If I'm in the mood for something she hasn't mentioned or specifically ruled out this is an encouragement to a discussion where she may agree or demure without judging me for asking.

Exactly! This is what I mean when I say open minded. I want anyone reading my ads to know they could approach and ask me anything without fear of "feeling stupid" or uninformed. Its not a "phrase of the day" as I only state what I mean and have been saying it for a while. I didn't think being open could be interpreted in so many ways but for those reading this know that I think it means I'm willing to hear any all of your polite suggestions and that you can be assured that when you ask me about any scenario I'll clearly and specifically explain my do's and don'ts:) and possibilities, because I'm open minded:)

I'm with the guy who talks about 'open minded' being similar to using the term 'GFE' in an ad. It only means what the sp who posted the ad wants it to mean, nothing more and nothing less, and sometimes it is just a tag line meant to get the phone to ring, nothing more and nothing less. And sometimes, shocker, the ad is simply copied from someone else in another city and has nothing to do with the sp you are calling, but ended up in the ad because she stole it from a US advertiser where the term actually meant something in code for that US sp lol. Never overthink this stuff, outside of very specific acronyms, these things like 'all inclusive', 'GFE', 'PSE', "ymmv" and "open minded' among other things are not worth the time to examine and define to anyone's satisfaction, because the majority of clients and sps are not reading these definitions and will simply redefine them any way they wish. And some of them have no idea of what the original meaning of 'open minded' used to be, or some of them use it because they do know, but they aren't aware of what it is being used for now. On one agency site, the term was used only for sps who didn't wish to have their actual services listed or defined as either GFE or PSE or FS only or any other label. They reserved the right to tell the client in person face to face what they did or didn't do, and sometimes that meant that one guy might get a kiss, while another one didn't. This way they couldn't be forced into a certain menu it gave them the freedom to decide for themselves at the time.

LOL...Or she just may want to sell tickets to that one! That would be some kind of a perfect landing while maintaining a boner, IMHO! ;)

I have always thought that "open minded" meant non-judgmental. So, you could be open in asking about something a little off the conventional, "vanilla" sexual map. It didn't guarantee she'd say yes, but it does mean she wouldn't give you a hard time about the request. Lots of guys have quirks and fetishes and offbeat interests they might be yearning to pursue but nervous to ask about. To me, open-minded means "don't be afraid to ask". I *don't* think open-minded means "willing to renegotiate my stated boundaries", or secretly open to doing something unsafe.