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I saw her, and the communication was not perfect but it worked eventually and we met and had a good time.

 

Sometimes things come up when you are trying to be discrete that block your chances to reply in a timely fashion. You may have also had bad luck. Or perhaps I just had good luck.

 

I would say though she is legitimate if admittedly not organized.

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She's legit for sure. Been trying to txt her but don't see any ads lately in BP or BE. She's good at what she does. No regrets for me.

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I contacted her and she asked if I would mind if her friend who is a guy could join in...

 

Thats was weird so I said not thanks, not my thing. Exact words. Never heard from her again...

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I visited her last year when she went by Kiara and had an experience somewhat different from the others in this string, but it did involve her 'friend' coming in the room unannounced immediately after playtime. Very unsettling and although I did enjoy the encounter up to that point, I have not been back to visit her since.

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I've known Kiarah for quite a while. Once her male friend appeared on the scene he's always inserted himself in every encounter, either by being present, in an adjacent room or literally hiding in the closet. I don't see Kiarah (aka Cherry) anymore and haven't for a while.

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What a shame - she is now a "party girl" and has a guy floating around...not good. Chances are he has a drug problem and has hooked her into that mess and she is working to get them drugs. I'm sure he isn't hanging around for "emotional support". lol

 

I don't get these girls sometimes.....I understand there is a chance they may have low self-esteems, but if the guy you are with is willing to watch you have sex with another guy (or be an escort in general), doesn't that mayyyybe suggest the dude doesn't really care about you? I mean, ya, some couples are into that kinda thing - but come on.

 

I know so many providers who are awesome ladies - smart, articulate, attractive and seem to want to live better lives (I mean, who doesn't?), yet they continue to keep themselves tied down to these low-life guys because they feel they can't do better/need them around. Sad.

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What a shame - she is now a "party girl" and has a guy floating around...not good. Chances are he has a drug problem and has hooked her into that mess and she is working to get them drugs. I'm sure he isn't hanging around for "emotional support". lol

 

I don't get these girls sometimes.....I understand there is a chance they may have low self-esteems, but if the guy you are with is willing to watch you have sex with another guy (or be an escort in general), doesn't that mayyyybe suggest the dude doesn't really care about you? I mean, ya, some couples are into that kinda thing - but come on.

 

I know so many providers who are awesome ladies - smart, articulate, attractive and seem to want to live better lives (I mean, who doesn't?), yet they continue to keep themselves tied down to these low-life guys because they feel they can't do better/need them around. Sad.

 

 

 

Hold up..

Sorry to threadjack here, but your comments on "these girls" are a little uncalled for..

 

If a guy friend/boyfriend/spouse is ok with us escorting, he doesn't care about us?

You can't be serious.. This just shows the lack of respect you have for the women you claim to support here

 

Are escorts actually expected to be loners, with no spouses or partners outside of the industry?

Many sw do actually have partners, and are even married, with healthy, non exploitative relationships..

 

What about friends? Should we not have friends either because some are users and it's hard to choose who really has our best intentions in mind?

 

I get that this situation with Kiarah is noteworthy and warrants discussion to help keep you safe, but to throw all sp under the bus as silly women with low self esteems, dating shitty people because they think they can't do better, is EXACTLY the mindset that went into the laws that now criminalize our clients.. Yourself included

 

Good, and bad relationships exist in every occupation, and in every walk of life. No need to make such generalizations about sw relationships like we're some kind of non human, sustained only by our jobs..

We're complete multifaceted people, and just like any other section of humanity, we have good and bad experiences with each part of our lives

 

Sorry to rant, but I'm in awe that I just read that on lyla

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Well said MsManda!

I have a long lasting relationship throughout my entire career!My life partner is NOT involved in my business, no more than a housewife is involved with her husbands accounting office lol. My partner does not live in the house I work in. We have our own lovenest!

 

That being said, I tire of explaining ( well no I dont often explain myself away lol) "why dont you book ...." or awww I can ONLY do Sat...etc...

 

Sorry dont what to tell ya all but I reserve 2/3whole days a week for me and my family and loved ones!

 

And as soon as I say, no I do massage only, they say ....oh you have a BF????? I say.. Soooo i see your married! My restrictions have NOTHING TO DO WITH MY PERSONAL LIFE ! I have decided that this is my comfort zone, and I have decided this as a GROWN ASS WOMAN!

Not as a surpressed and oppressed girl.

 

Sorry but not sorry. ROAR

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I hear the roar, and I seriously get it for the generalization. I'm NOT going to go there. You are correct in your roaring. I understand that you have your own lives, necessarily separate from the 'temporary reality' you all provide to your clients. I never ask about it - I don't want to cross a boundary that will make things awkward.

 

Stepping away from the generalization, back to this specific circumstance - we have multiple potential (and past) clients who have indicated in this thread that a SP has asked if her male friend can participate - or whose male friend has walked in during the date, or hidden apparently in the closet.

 

As a client, I understand fully an SPs need for safety, but the situation that seems to be described appears to be more than having a 'friend in the next room' or a 'friend upstairs.'

 

Staying within the specifics described in this thread by several people - if I was asked if another male would be welcome (inferring that the male would be a participant of some sort) during the time I was spending with an SP, I would politely decline. It's not my thing, at all.

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Hold up..

Sorry to threadjack here, but your comments on "these girls" are a little uncalled for..

 

Clearly you read my post and went all inward with it. I wasn't completely clear...completely understandable. Humans are known for that ;) My apologies.

 

....but, when I said, "these girls", I was referring to the "party girl/party friendly" ladies (that was the vein of discussion due to the provider focused on in this thread having a guy hanging around - providers who have guys hiding in closets/waiting outside the room are a different type of provider than yourself or providers like you - we can agree on that, yes?). I didn't mean all providers....just the, well, I won't get into it....but I'm sure you understand what I mean.

 

I'm the last person who would generalize about providers. My best friend and someone I can say out loud that I love is a provider and I am very close with another girl who works. I've met and spent time with quite a few different "levels" of girls in this industry.

 

I apologize because I have seen the bottom of the barrel and the ups and downs some (and I said some - not generalizing lol) of the ladies call their lives. But I have spent enough time in said lives to see, regardless the circumstances, they have family, care about their pets, are incredible people, etc. .......all the "normal stuff" a non-provider is supposed to be. I don't see my friends as providers, I see them as friends. I see their good - but I also see the bad in their lives - their pasts, the people who have used them etc. and there are cases that can be atypical and that is what frustrates me - just the inability to see their actual worth due to the lives they have led (or been led into) so far. I see how much they have to offer and their potentials and it's annoying to watch "these girls" stay in that negative cycle because they don't think they can get out or don't feel they are worth it. That's my beef. :) If you don't fall in that category, then awesome!! ....but "that girl" does exist and ignoring that they do isn't helping either.

 

Now, on the flip side, I can totally feel your frustration when you see some dude "generalize" about escorts. It may be akin to how a African American may feel in today's society. Not ALL African Americans have grills, carry guns and are in a gang - but it is that small % that get all the attention/press - thus a "generalization" may occur. So, Joe Blow Black Guy who is a accountant and doesn't even know what a grill is still has to deal with generalizations and he is usually pissed about that. Just like you in this case. I get it and I apologize. :)

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Confining my response to only as it pertains to Cherry/Kiarah as I see Leviathans post triggered some kickback.

 

I've shared all the details with a few people via PM but I'll just keep it brief and say drugs are a problem with Cherry. I'm generally a person who has no problem if people want to use recreational drugs but it's moved into problem territory with Cherry in my opinion, it's at least effected our encounters in non-positive ways. Likewise I originally took her BF at face value and engaged in threesomes but no longer as I could see the issues he's causing for Cherry/Kiarah (again in my opinion).

 

Cherry is a GOOD person. If she returns to her former self I'd gladly recommend her and try to support her any way I could. She's a wonderful person to meet outside her BF and the drugs. I feel torn between helping Lyla members avoid a bad experience and depriving Cherry of income that may well trap her more or make her situation even worse.

 

Touching on Leviathan's post, I will say having had non-pay relationships with escorts and or been friends with escorts, that sex with other men is not a deal breaker in a relationship with the right people involved.

 

 

What a shame - she is now a "party girl" and has a guy floating around...not good. Chances are he has a drug problem and has hooked her into that mess and she is working to get them drugs. I'm sure he isn't hanging around for "emotional support". lol

 

I don't get these girls sometimes.....I understand there is a chance they may have low self-esteems, but if the guy you are with is willing to watch you have sex with another guy (or be an escort in general), doesn't that mayyyybe suggest the dude doesn't really care about you? I mean, ya, some couples are into that kinda thing - but come on.

 

I know so many providers who are awesome ladies - smart, articulate, attractive and seem to want to live better lives (I mean, who doesn't?), yet they continue to keep themselves tied down to these low-life guys because they feel they can't do better/need them around. Sad.

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This is unfortunate hear. I seen Kiarah/Cherry once last year back in January and had an excellent time with her. She was very accommodating, amazingly sweet and a blast to talk to, haven't met a provider yet that was more down to earth. Ever since I got back in town i've been wanting to look her up and see her again as I couldn't stop thinking about the experience I had with her.

 

We had a nice conversation early into the session we had together about struggles with drug use as I am a recovering addict myself, and without going into much detail, things seemed to be on the right track for her. It breaks my heart to hear that not only her but any recovering addict fall down that path again.

 

If this is all true with whats happening with her. I hope things get back on track for her. God knows I understand that struggle and that dark path if shes on it.

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Seen kiara/cherry a couple times over last year and recently after she changed her name. Had an excellent experience with her as Cherry seems to drop the guy that was controlling and doing alot better for herself. Would recomend

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Seen kiara/cherry a couple times over last year and recently after she changed her name. Had an excellent experience with her as Cherry seems to drop the guy that was controlling and doing alot better for herself. Would recomend

 

That is a good sign. In my last conversation with her she would not say that guy is gone. Has anyone else seen her recently?

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I saw Cherry/Kiarah a little while ago and her pics are accurate and to be honest she was better looking in person than the pics. Experience was pretty standard and ok. At the end of the session, I opened the door to leave the location and there was another well known SP and 2 other guys waiting right outside the door which kind of spooked me. They all rushed in before I even had a chance to let go of the door. 

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On 7/22/2018 at 12:57 PM, 444jiji said:

I saw Cherry/Kiarah a little while ago and her pics are accurate and to be honest she was better looking in person than the pics. Experience was pretty standard and ok. At the end of the session, I opened the door to leave the location and there was another well known SP and 2 other guys waiting right outside the door which kind of spooked me. They all rushed in before I even had a chance to let go of the door. 


The underlined portion of your post is unsettling.  

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@harboursmokeWhile I have not visited Cherry/Kiarah, it seems that sadly it is an often occurrence these days, has happened to me twice in the last year. Having been cut short both times because of roommates and their boyfriends, I do not visit newer SP's who do not have many reviews for the time being.

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