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Ok here I go. I know some will not agree with this but it has been in my mind for a while now and I just have to get it out! I know in cerb as long as nothing negative is said there is freedom of speech so by no means this is an attempt from me to stop this but just me showing another side of the coin, a woman's perspective and boy that can be complicated so get ready guys. For months I have been reading or sometimes just seeing in the main index all the 'best whatever' threads and I often think 'The best according to who?' obviously according to whoever posted it but my point is in order to know what or who the best is you would have to try them all right? In my dictionary the best is very relative as we all have different tastes which means definition of best varies from one person to another and what is best for me may very likely not be for someone else. I have a point I promise. I know us ladies on cerb are confident enough not to let this 'best' threads bother us as we are aware of the fact that each of us is a different individual with characteristics and skills that make us all unique but I still find naming someone the best kind of shallow. Yes, of course us ladies feel flattered with the compliments we receive but I think this can be left in the picture comments and recommendations area. I know this may and very likely will not change anything or stop you guys from posting on those threads but that's not my goal anyway but you understanding a litle more the way we or at least I feel. In the end as much as as I said these 'best' threads have been in my mind for a while it was actually a comment in a recommendation I read yesterday that made me write this and I know the guy who wrote it meant nothing else but complementing the lady he was talking about but I found it a little too extreme so I'll quote him ' she is the way all women should be' seriously?? I may be overreacting but find this comment kind of extreme. The fact that to him this lady is what he was looking for in an escort or/and a great experience for him does not mean us other women should be like her. Am I taking this too literally? Possibly but still needed to get it out. Thanks to those who read this!! xoxo

Well when you start a "best of the BBW's" thread, maybe I'll believe the playfulness. As I've said to you in the past, those threads are objectifying and only show one type of woman. Like Nicolette, I no longer bother to read them. While they are not meant to be demeaning, it can be rather demeaning to see picture upon picture of women who are most definitely not like me. Luckily I have reached a place where I am confident in myself and comfortable with my body. But others may not be.

I think this may only increase the issue.....we should not have to be graded by votes beside our fellow SPs who are of all shapes and sizes.....all the ladies here on cerb are a great selection of different and unique ladies......casting a vote or poll to determine "bests" would be rather pointless IMO. sidenote: I respect Isabella for her bravery in starting this thread....as I know it has been an issue that many of us ladies have squirmed about in the past. It takes guts to be the first to bring into public view an issue that some gents may not consider, that being said, I dont think anyone should be giving Isabella grief for being honest.

I'm with you Isabella. Personally I look at the best of threads as publicly objectifying the ladies. Every encounter I have had has been unique and special, not a case of one lady better than another, and each lady is unique and special, not one better than another RG

Congratulations to Megan (Megan's Touch) on her 2000th post !! I thought I'd honour this amazing accomplishment with a word game. I've tried to construct as many words and phrases as I can from the letters M E G A N without using the same letter more than once. It's remarkable how fitting these words and phrases are. See for yourself... GAME: Forget games like golf, hockey, scrabble, etc. The games she will play with you are much more fun. NAME: During a session with her you may not remember your wife's name. Or your own name for that matter. NAG ME: Something she does not do to me. NAG 'EM: Something she does not do to other men. MEAN: Something she is not. MAN: Something she definitely is not. (I checked) MEN: These people like her alot. AGE: Well above legal. Yet not too high. MANE: She has nice long hair. AMEN: Oh, and one more thing God: Thank you for Megan. Amen. MANGE: An infectious disorder mainly affecting domestic animals, characterized by itching, formation of papules and vesicles, and loss of hair: caused by parasitic mites. (Hmmm...I probably should have skipped that one) And last but not least... A GEM -Anonymous

I would certainly be remiss, considering the Cerb handle that I use, not to respond to this thread. Like Meg, I do consider myself to be just a genuinely nice person. Care, concern for others, the ability to empathize, an interest in helping others and similar sorts of things have served me well over the years, and unlike some others perhaps, that includes both my personal and professional lives. These characteristics, if they are in fact present in people, are not things that others assume or presume to be automatically present or authentic in others at first meeting, or even after some time. These characteristics, or, just general niceness and sincerety are characteristics that need to be earned and developed over time. Human nature and past experiences are the cause for that. I do not believe that someone is necessarily naive nor vulnerable should they present this aspect of their being, yet one must at the same time be cautious that others may attribute these characteristics to you by being 'nice'. There need not be a contradiction between being a genuinely nice person and a person that is intellligent and confident enough to recognize when your 'niceness' might possibly be being employed against you. Meg we have not met, but I have followed much of your writing, and it sounds to me as if you have that balance. If so, keep being that nice person that I think I see.:) It is a little compliment here that in a previous thread I made a comment about what a 'silly' name it is that I had selected, and was wondering if there was a way to change it here on Cerb. That little comment from me sparked quite a few PM's from people that I have met, all of whom said, no way, the name fits you so well. What a "nice" gesture that was :)

and I am caffiene free after being bitchy with a headache for the last 3 days...I think we should start some fun and interesting threads. :) I'll post my thoughts later... Back to cleaning now. lol.

I would certainly rather be told by my lady friend that I was orally off base rather than reading it in a "bad oral sex" thread. So please any lady I have (A) already met or (B) will meet in the future please, please guide or instruct me. Being told in person is much preferable to thinking I am Gods gift to cunnilingus only to find out that I am in fact not a deity at all.

I generally give everyone the benefit of the doubt the first go around. I will admit, I'm wary of people who are too nice initially--it seems disingenuous to me. But on the whole, I'm one of those people who would do anything for the people close to me.

I don't know if these "Best of Threads" are objectifying women and since they are posted in the general discussion area, I read what I want and ignore the rest. Do I find certain posts annoying? Of course but I can choose to read it or ignore it. I don't think these threads should be taken too seriously. I also don't think men here expect us to look like these women because most of these pictures are a) photoshopped b) damn good lighting & airbrushing. I've had so many other things consume me in my life that I don't get caught up in the trivial things in life anymore. Do I really do I give a flying fig about what one guy is looking for in a woman? Absolutely not. If we start being too politically correct about everything and start censoring our thoughts, there is no point in contributing on this board. Let the person who starts the "Best of Threads" fantasize and dream because maybe it's all he's got or it feeds his ego when he writes recos on how women should be. No offense to whoever this is. Beauty is subjective and people are going to have their different standards on what they want a woman to look like. At the end of the day, I'm not going to cry on my pillow because someone is objectifying women. I've accepted this as a part of reality and the business I'm in and know that I don't have to or need to conform to what one person wants me to be.

My downfall over the years has been communication...much easier, for me, to find someone who is compatible off the bat. It's horrible, I know. I'm trying to turn myself around ;)

Great answer harboursmoke!! Yes for heaven's sake gents don't be shy, everyone likes something different. I am very happy to receive personal instructions and I am not shy either. The conservation back and forth is very erotic and really ads to the fun. :-)

Communication people! I for one will be vocal and guide you in my pleasure and I would expect nothing less from the other party! :) Posted via Mobile Device

At least she didn't treat it like .....

I hope for your sake Renegade you do get to see this Lady! She is a terrific Lady that really loves what she does. Very good at it as well. A little Tiger if i may say so!

I think it's like pizza, even bad pizza is still pizza!

Thanks for the info re Jenny on vacation. There have been many lovely ladies at Barb's recently, most notably, to my mind, the gorgeous Mia. I suppose I should also try to see if any of my night faves are still there. Bianca and Savannah always seemed to be two of the nicest and most beautiful of the evening regulars.

This is a long thread, but I did have a couple of thoughts. A guy can post a thread with a title that leaves out the "Best Of". and simply make it an invitation for the ladies to participate. On a site I used to visit, a fella would post a thread with an inviting title like "Show your assets, ladies", but not take her pics to post. As a potential advertising boost, plus a fun and flirty way to participate, any sp who wants to would pick the picture she wants and posts it. There were weekly threads, and the bump post would still only be a comment from a guy, the picture posting was entirely done by the sps. He could always quote the picture, but I don't know of anyone taking pics from the sps album and posting that way. Maybe copying a pic from her posted recent ad, but not out of the albums. I always would assume the album pics are there for reference, and for member access but if she didn't put them herself in a public ad, that is for a reason. So a theme thread of "Legs for Daze" or "Friday is Hooters Day", etc, and just leave the Best of in the eyes of the beholder.